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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 04 2011 04:02 GMT
#78
How will Jaedong effect the game? There are only twelve chairs so I'm assuming it's only us. Also the High priest is a role or alignment?

I think because Dr. H put a night 0, there are certain individuals who require this time to figure somethings out. Scholars and thieves I think
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 04 2011 05:14 GMT
#89
Something tells me this isn't a role playing game curu lol...

I mean well redff

Do you think we are supposed to figure a way out of the room?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 05 2011 01:10 GMT
#157
I don't think it's just flavor kita, but I think there are reasons not to discuss exactly what was in our rooms unless it seems relevant to something already on the table. I don't want to say what was in my room.

Syllogism solved the puzzle really fast, and I'd think he would have discussed it with his team if he was mafia. But he could have done it for reasons kita stated, so I think that dipping into WIFOM territory.

I think syllo should tell us how he solved it so we can guess at the nature of the next puzzle, and also if syllo has any reason for solving it other then what was stated in the day post.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 05 2011 09:37 GMT
#186
That's cool syllo, I guess these puzzles will be more logically based like that, All I can see on the second one is the combination being based on LEVIATHAN, but with the previous riddle it might be a bit short-sighted to focus on the letters as the numbers. And Varp, you're riddle has a stage part, perhaps they are in some way related. I think if we find a stage in a room ahead we'll find a safe, and also you can better grasp you're riddle.

I'm putting my vote on mig as of right now, because speculating on a set-up, that has not been backed up by anything, then accusing someone based off it is a waste of time. Either him or curu. I can understand voting redff as well, but I don't think his intent was bad

##Vote Mig
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 05 2011 09:55 GMT
#189
On August 05 2011 18:45 syllogism wrote:
Varpulis riddle sounds somehow familiar; perhaps the same concept with different words but I can't quite place it. As to the card puzzle, it feels like there's information missing if it points to a safe combination. For instance, if LEVIATHAN refers to bible, the combination could be 41:1-41:34, but would that mean 41 right, 1 right, 41 left, 34 left or what? Also is there a significance to part of the word combination being cut off? In the light of first puzzle, I think we shouldn't overthink the answers.


Jesus, you are smart.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 05 2011 20:24 GMT
#213
And don't we have to find the safe under the stage to? afaik, we have not seen a stage.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 05 2011 23:17 GMT
#238
On August 06 2011 08:09 kitaman27 wrote:
Why is everyone so certain that someone has been recruited into a cult? I don't know about you guys, but I was unable to perform any night actions on night zero, so I assume it is the same for others. Accusing people of being cult recruits at this point is only placing unnecessary doubt on pro-town players. syllogism, your thought process behind your vote is rather odd. Not only is it unlikely that anyone is a cult recruit, you are also punishing activity and promoting a poor thread environment.


Big differoni between being pro-town and being a vet. We would be stupid to not consider the cult thing as a big possibility though. Obviously this is very religious based.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 05 2011 23:29 GMT
#240
On August 06 2011 08:27 kitaman27 wrote:
But how would a cultist even have recruited a vet yet? We haven't had a normal night cycle yet...


I don't know I didn't do anything night 0 but everyone keeps claiming that was what it was for.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 09:10 GMT
#267
Yeah the votes are really spread out. Perhaps we should narrow down candidates, so that we can actually have something to go on for later. In a recruiting set-up, it is generally accepted that vets get picked up nearly 90% of the time. The recruiter forces town to lose a valuable asset, while bolstering his team more effectively then normal. Aside from that, we don't have any evidence supporting that this so it shouldn't have any impact on who we lynch.

Mig, Curu, or redff are all viable picks, and we should probably keep it between these three unless someone feels otherwise.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:09 GMT
#299
On August 07 2011 00:16 redFF wrote:
K my thoughts. Amber is actually making posts and fos'ing people and doing analysis, which is more then i've seen him do as scum. Trotske just isn't very good.


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On August 06 2011 18:10 bumatlarge wrote:
Yeah the votes are really spread out. Perhaps we should narrow down candidates, so that we can actually have something to go on for later. In a recruiting set-up, it is generally accepted that vets get picked up nearly 90% of the time. The recruiter forces town to lose a valuable asset, while bolstering his team more effectively then normal. Aside from that, we don't have any evidence supporting that this so it shouldn't have any impact on who we lynch.

Mig, Curu, or redff are all viable picks, and we should probably keep it between these three unless someone feels otherwise.

I don't like the last part of his post. He's basically saying "let's lynch into these 3 people because I said so. Honestly all it loos like is mafia Trying to control town/divert lynches. Bum, why not keep it between coag, amber and Palmar instead?


Because they are all scummy. Mig has been aggressive since he started posting, and he actually made a vote based on the cult thing, which I find absurd with all the amount of WIFOM surrounding that. Curu's initial posting was called out quick but it's a point to mention that he was doing it. Finding an excuse to not post anything relevant is a fantastic way to not be an issue. That's why I'm proud no one let him do it. That's why chezinu is difficult to play with, because you need to be able to read what people are posting.

And you redff, are scummy because

On August 05 2011 06:55 redFF wrote:
NOOOO JAEDONGGGGGGGG NOOOOO

btw i think we all may have got the same role pm at the start of n0 so your intentions are moot.


When did you 'figure this out'? I was extremely suspicious of you ever since that post, because I was still in the dark at this point. To come to this conclusion made me think you had something happen between night 0 and day 1.

But other then that I guess there are other good candidates. I definetly was trying to manage the vote because I still see we have no more then 2 votes on every person, and knowing everyone its going to be a massive shock when some last minute switches go down. Put some reasons down, then put your vote with it. Repeatedly posting someone's name in red does not make them scum. Though coag has been lurking so I guess I should shut up.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#314
On August 07 2011 06:37 syllogism wrote:
Considering we've 3 people tied at 2 votes so close to the lynch and there's little to no activity, either they are all town or this really is a strange setup and there are fewer than 3 scums currently. Even if there were only two, they could probably get a townie lynched.


Amber is getting lynched as of right now with three, but I think mafia is too scared to change their votes, unless trotske has balls of steel. I think amber dying will bring a lot to the table, especially with votes this tight. But I'd rather have one of the three I listed get lynched. So I'll vote curu as well, amber is a good player and can be useful.

##Unvote
##Vote Curu

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:46 GMT
#318
lol defintely not voting coagulation
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:47 GMT
#319
On August 07 2011 06:46 Curu wrote:
But if you do kill me I'll be giving my item to Mig because he's a bro. I breadcrumbed what it actually is too, but it's a fairly useless item from what I can see.


Vote curu please, I'll eat my shoe if he and mig are not scum.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:49 GMT
#323
On August 07 2011 06:48 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why Curu would have been recruited to a cult on n0. At least there is a chance with Amber/coag. Assuming that even is the setup, it's really hard to make informed decisions when we know nothing about the setup at all.


THERE IS NO CULT THAT WE KNOW OF

No one should be voting someone based on the likely hood of them being recruited. We would want to find the recruiter anyway. Don't blind yourself dude.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:54 GMT
#331
On August 07 2011 06:51 syllogism wrote:
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On August 07 2011 06:49 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:48 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why Curu would have been recruited to a cult on n0. At least there is a chance with Amber/coag. Assuming that even is the setup, it's really hard to make informed decisions when we know nothing about the setup at all.


THERE IS NO CULT THAT WE KNOW OF

No one should be voting someone based on the likely hood of them being recruited. We would want to find the recruiter anyway. Don't blind yourself dude.

So what do you think the setup is? If there's 3 scum, no way we are lynching one tonight with this lack of focus and vote distribution


wtf? If mafia vote together then the win the game for us. If you think it's coag then explain why. Just because we dont have a a great shot at it doesnt mean we should go off on some other tangent and base our vote around something we dont know.

Vote because people are scummy, not because you think someone else thinks they would be good scum.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:55 GMT
#334
YEAH KITA LETS SAVE OUR BUDDY AMBER BY VOTING SOMEONE WITH NO VOTES ON HIM...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:55 GMT
#336
On August 07 2011 06:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Trotske:
Coagulation

Amber[light]:
Meapak_Ziphh
Palmar
Trotske

Meapak_Ziphh:
Mig

Varpulis:
redFF

Curu:
Trotske
kitaman27
bumatlarge

Coagulation:
Curu
syllogism

Palmar:
Amber[LighT]
Mig

5 minutes remain


you counted trotske twice
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 21:57 GMT
#338
On August 07 2011 06:55 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:54 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:51 syllogism wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:49 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:48 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why Curu would have been recruited to a cult on n0. At least there is a chance with Amber/coag. Assuming that even is the setup, it's really hard to make informed decisions when we know nothing about the setup at all.


THERE IS NO CULT THAT WE KNOW OF

No one should be voting someone based on the likely hood of them being recruited. We would want to find the recruiter anyway. Don't blind yourself dude.

So what do you think the setup is? If there's 3 scum, no way we are lynching one tonight with this lack of focus and vote distribution


wtf? If mafia vote together then the win the game for us. If you think it's coag then explain why. Just because we dont have a a great shot at it doesnt mean we should go off on some other tangent and base our vote around something we dont know.

Vote because people are scummy, not because you think someone else thinks they would be good scum.

None of the people that are currently up for lynch have done anything all day and "coag never does anything" isn't exactly a convincing case for him being town


Alright then, since neither of us know anything, we can't really help but let the lynch take its course. I don't think coag is any scummier then amber, but you dont think curu is any scummier then amber either?

Then there is only one thing left to do.

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 22:03 GMT
#344
I got a bad feeling he was town lol
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2011 22:08 GMT
#351
well call me a pirate and blow me down rofl GO TEAM
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 07 2011 00:40 GMT
#369
Yeah kill palmar! Varp with your alignment check just use it on whoever you think you should, don't announce who please.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 07 2011 04:19 GMT
#378
What's wrong with right now? I felt more sure of curu then amber. If it was about diverting a lynch off amber, I think we wouldn't have just started up on a person with no votes?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 07 2011 22:33 GMT
#447
LAL LYNCH THE DOCTOR

solvable my foot
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2011 01:11 GMT
#466
On August 08 2011 08:31 Trotske wrote:
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On August 07 2011 06:43 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:37 syllogism wrote:
Considering we've 3 people tied at 2 votes so close to the lynch and there's little to no activity, either they are all town or this really is a strange setup and there are fewer than 3 scums currently. Even if there were only two, they could probably get a townie lynched.


Amber is getting lynched as of right now with three, but I think mafia is too scared to change their votes, unless trotske has balls of steel. I think amber dying will bring a lot to the table, especially with votes this tight. But I'd rather have one of the three I listed get lynched. So I'll vote curu as well, amber is a good player and can be useful.

##Unvote
##Vote Curu



What is this to me it looks like you were trying to get me to switch my vote to curu because you knew that I had thought him a little scummy earlier.

explain it.

Oh and after I Said I wasn't going to change my vote you posted this

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On August 07 2011 06:55 bumatlarge wrote:
YEAH KITA LETS SAVE OUR BUDDY AMBER BY VOTING SOMEONE WITH NO VOTES ON HIM...



What I don't understand is even if you were town and you really thought that amber was a townie why wouldn't you derail the lynch on someone with votes up by lynching the scummiest person you saw with a chance at getting lynched instead of throwing your votes away unless you put it all on me switching my vote. and the you could back out by saying how dumb it was if you were scum.


Admire your effort, but you strang together two posts that were refering to other people. I said you had balls for switching to amber after the half/hour mark. And then you're over complicating something as simple as "I don't think this guy is town. so I'm voting for him". I still think curu is scum, and the fact that amber was doesn't lessen that. I think that's rather plausible considering the circumstances.

Curu and Amber didn't vote for each other until the last possible minute. There is a point where analysis becomes WIFOM. I think that last paragraph of yours was getting pretty close.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2011 01:12 GMT
#467
By the way, I'm going to submit poisonwasthecure.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=484275956465&comments&ref=mf
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2011 01:20 GMT
#469
google :D
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2011 01:22 GMT
#470
Well god damn it was incorrect I was sure about that shit FUCK THIS GAME!

-_-
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2011 07:53 GMT
#485
lol you want to lynch based on gut feelings? Please think for more then ten seconds.
On August 08 2011 13:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE, REREAD THE THREAD

Yes please do then post anything. I'm going to keep on curu and actually back it up.

Insert Curu's first 20 posts


Nonsense. Coagulation would actually be a viable candidate, but focusing all your attention on someone who posts nothing is not benefiting anyone. It's a distracting waste of time. Though Cog still didnt post, Curu is much worse. I would take it as a personal insult if I got more votes then this guy, with the way he's been playing, compared to the relatively competent curu I saw in PTP2.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2011 08:42 GMT
#487
On August 08 2011 17:23 syllogism wrote:
Your posts near the lynch were quite strange. For instance


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On August 07 2011 06:43 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 07 2011 06:37 syllogism wrote:
Considering we've 3 people tied at 2 votes so close to the lynch and there's little to no activity, either they are all town or this really is a strange setup and there are fewer than 3 scums currently. Even if there were only two, they could probably get a townie lynched.


Amber is getting lynched as of right now with three, but I think mafia is too scared to change their votes, unless trotske has balls of steel. I think amber dying will bring a lot to the table, especially with votes this tight. But I'd rather have one of the three I listed get lynched. So I'll vote curu as well, amber is a good player and can be useful.

##Unvote
##Vote Curu


You didn't want to lynch Amber, votes were fairly evenly distributed and yet you thought Amber dying "will bring a lot to the table"? If he had flipped town, why exactly do you think that would be the case?


Statistically speaking, in a 13 person game to have 3 townies vote another townie off while not incurring additional votes is very unlikely. Amber wasn't making too many friends with what he was saying.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 06 2011 23:41 Amber[LighT] wrote:
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On August 06 2011 18:12 Palmar wrote:
btw, amber is grasping at straws for making people look scummy. A pretty obvious cult joke and he decides I'm the biggest threat to town?

Also, compare this game to both his day 1 in AA and his day 1 in PTP mafia. This looks so much more like his scum play

OMGUS

##Unvote
##Vote Amber[LighT]


OMGUS? More like "I cant believe you're not dead already." Two people have chosen to use meta play as a reason for why I'm scummy, despite my meta changing each and every game. You're both on the radar since you haven't proven to me how you're not scum. Palmar you are the best lynch:

1. You were kidding around pre-game with your cult nonsense to draw out some people. Your most detailed post was one that didn't even matter to the game:

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 04 2011 21:45 Palmar wrote:
Cultist - Cult of Palmar


Do you think you have what it takes to become a premier cultist?

Then Cult of Palmar might be the right Cult for you! We are looking for world class cultists to bolster our ranks, bring in expertise and help us develop an even better Cult.

As a Cultist your responsibilities would be to spread the ideas of the Cult to the uninitiated and of course eternal loyalty to the Cult leader.

A successful candidate must possess these qualification:

  • A strong belief in the Cult's values
  • Fierce loyalty
  • The willingness to sacrifice his own time (or soul) for the good of the Cult
  • Proficiency in Black Magic


In addition, the following skills would increase the chance of being hired

  • Knowledge of potions
  • Owning a creepy black hooded cloak
  • Photoshop experience


The right candidate will be someone who fulfills the above while showing passion and will to join the Cult. For the right person we can offer immortality, or at least an extended life cycle, in addition to power beyond imagination.*

Please leave your applications in this thread, I will look them over and hire the best candidates tomorrow.

The Cult of Palmar is a global Cult devoted to the ideas of it's glorious leader, Palmar. The Cult has followers in at least 2 countries and one planet. Our mission is to spread the Cult as far as we can and eventually bring darkness onto the world.



* May not apply to individuals with very vivid imagination




2. Then you disappear and make silly accusations and useless posts. See:

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 05 2011 17:54 Palmar wrote:
I think we should lynch Mig or redFF


On August 05 2011 18:32 Palmar wrote:
##Vote redFF


On August 05 2011 18:42 Palmar wrote:
it's not the intentions thing, it's the fact that he felt the need to back up his methodology with something like "they do it on that other forum". That's just a safety net for if the town hates him for it.



On August 05 2011 19:14 Palmar wrote:
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On August 05 2011 18:55 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 05 2011 18:45 syllogism wrote:
Varpulis riddle sounds somehow familiar; perhaps the same concept with different words but I can't quite place it. As to the card puzzle, it feels like there's information missing if it points to a safe combination. For instance, if LEVIATHAN refers to bible, the combination could be 41:1-41:34, but would that mean 41 right, 1 right, 41 left, 34 left or what? Also is there a significance to part of the word combination being cut off? In the light of first puzzle, I think we shouldn't overthink the answers.


Jesus, you are smart.


There is a reason my scumtell no1 is to kill syllo n1.



On August 05 2011 19:24 Palmar wrote:
And don't forget the basics, the number of the beast is 666


On August 06 2011 07:22 Palmar wrote:
haha I dismissed that shit too.



3. It's not until someone finally decides to throw a vote onto you that you weasel your way out of the situation by piggy-backing onto another individual.

Palmar I'm wondering why the first post with content appeared to be a diversion post to cover your own ass. That's scummy play. You didn't even use an idea that was your own. Instead, you took the easy way out and just threw yourself onto Meapaks idea because you know I'm not a threat to the town, but you want to make this lynch "ezpz" for your cult.

4. Your "meta" is not consistent with your town play either.

I don't really want to go down this road, but since you prodded me I'll hit back. You want to talk about past games? I remember you being really active in EVERY game we've played together [PTP1, AA, PTP2, etc]. You were never scum afaik, aside from black, which is a whole different can of worms. This game you're not being so active. Your post count is a bit lower than normal, and I'm wondering why you're being so reserved. You weren't working on the puzzles the whole time, were you?

So Palmar I'll ask you:

What should we do about items? Should we disclose them or hide them from public view? Why?

Are there any details about your room that you didn't disclose?



In small games, player to player relationships often decide the outcome of a game. It's much more difficult to convince individuals who you will have to respond to directly, rather then a large game, where your contributions are appreciated, but a lot of the time unnoticed. If amber popped town, we would not be able to ignore the people responsible.

I have some theories, but I think it's easiest to say palmar's death is extremely self-explanatory; Anyone who helped kill amber is able to be trusted, and the likeli-hood of a bus is small, the lynch was not organized from what you could tell.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2011 21:29 GMT
#518
Well that was rather subpar.

You are all declared anathema
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 09 2011 00:00 GMT
#562
We really should have organized better. I spent so much time trying make up a random roundabout way for town to not lynch amber without actually talking about amber, but syllo and trotske picked up on it. I didn't think amber looked that scummy day 1, I was very surprised he got pushed instead of mig, who I was prepared to bus all the way. Didn't want to bus our high priest, especially with the headstart the real townies like meapak and palmar got.

Should have killed syllo, but we would have had to kill so many different people who were virtually townies already, that we didn't want to start with someone who was not necessarily town.

MVP - Meapak then syllogism for sure.

Mafia MVP...
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United States4567 Posts
August 09 2011 00:14 GMT
#566
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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August 09 2011 01:44 GMT
#568
Wiggles I did get you to think I was a scholar right? AT LEAST I DID SOMETHING COOL
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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Last Edited: 2011-08-10 05:26:14
August 10 2011 05:20 GMT
#572
On August 09 2011 12:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On August 09 2011 10:44 bumatlarge wrote:
Wiggles I did get you to think I was a scholar right? AT LEAST I DID SOMETHING COOL


Well, you got me to think that there might be a scholar role in the game :p

I'm guessing you originally rolled thief?


No civilian, I didn't see any other roles that were like that.

Edit: oh wait didn't check the end post, I was civilian night 0 then amber recruited me. Would have been really cool to be a recruited thief
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bumatlarge
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August 10 2011 05:35 GMT
#573
What did you like most about the game?
The mechanics you used. I know it might seem a bit town-favored with the loss, and the amount of powers, but those could easily get into town hands, what with mafia having a clue advantage of seeing what town figures out publically, and privately discussing and guessing as a group.

What did you like least about the game?
EVERYTHING, jk nothing I can see, we screwed up and got punished rather immediately for it.

If you could remove something from the real haunted game, what would it be?
Hm, if you use recruitment, that would become a huge topic of debate after the deed is done. I'm not sure how you would go about stopping a High priest from recruiting just big names, but I would need to see it in action. Perhaps making them pick between pools of people, or making it a bit more random. How about having each player submit a reason why they should be picked and base it off that? Not sure.

If you could add something to the real haunted game, what would it be?
Nothing I haven't mentioned above.

Do you think this game was imbalanced in favor of town or mafia?
Would need to see more samples, and I'd imagine the next one will be bigger.

Were the puzzles too easy or too difficult?
First two were straight forward, then that last one blew my mind, but i thought I was on to something with the facebook profile thing with that picture. Just a coincidence
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