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On July 22 2011 11:06 Jacinto wrote: @Ace Allright, that makes more sense. However, I don't really see the point of random lynching. Sure, the DT could get an investigation, but we still don't know if we actually have a DT or even a doctor in the game. I don't get how random lynching could "kick things off", to the contrary, to me it seems that a RL would just keep the game stagnated. Could you explain more closely exactly how a RL would contribute to our cause? I agree with this. As far as I can see a RL has a 9:3 chance of just making us down a townie and we don't even know if we have a DT, If we have a DT then there is a 50% chance of there being a Roleblocker also if the DT claims they then have a 50% chance of being useless. Can someone please explain why a RL is better than a no lynch. | ||
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On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote: You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not. Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence. | ||
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On July 22 2011 11:54 DragonReborn422 wrote: I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH. I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!! How can the town do worse than a RL day1. | ||
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OTE]On July 22 2011 12:03 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite. We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more. Thank you, that's what I wanted a solid reason. | ||
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I don't know what to think, DR seems like a douche but that doesn't mean hes scum I feel like all this back and forth between DR, VE, and Ace could be some elaborate plan to confuse the new players like me into getting behind one of these guys to lead them to a lynch. The way I see our D1 lynch options are Inactive > one of DR, VE, or Ace > RL. That's my view. | ||
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On July 23 2011 03:03 DragonReborn422 wrote: I actually think trotske is a pretty solid vote right now. he's playing so safe. ## vote trotske By "playing safe" makes me a solid vote and yet people who look scummy to you are obv town? Is your head on backwards or is there something else going on here? | ||
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On July 23 2011 03:43 DragonReborn422 wrote: you look kind of scummy to me. "scummy" is all relative. you're lurking in the thread..popping up when your name gets mentioned. and that's about it. you're flying pretty low key...a pretty decent mafia candidate imo. I pop up when I have something useful to say otherwise I'm watching to see whats going on considering this is my first game and someone asked me to say something so I responded. I'm not sure how this is more scummy than say Sevryn or Fortress Fortune. Seems to me that if you post a lot but have nothing to say == scum. Don't post a lot because you have nothing useful to contribute == scum. Keep telling everyone who you think could be scum from a couple of posts == townie? Like I said in an earlier post my lynch list still has inactive people at the top but DR is getting up there because he keeps voting for someone different at the drop of a hat. | ||
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On July 23 2011 04:17 DragonReborn422 wrote: actually, you're the first person i've voted trotske. keep making stuff up though. Yea sorry the word I meant to say wasn't vote. After re-reading most of the thread Your not near as suspicious as I thought you were but that's not to say I wont keep my eye on you. | ||
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Please show me where I have acted as Scum and not just asked for clarifications on certain things due to the fact that this is my first game of mafia, EVER. This whole game I have tried to reason out some of the positions other people have held using logic and the Question "does this help the town?" From what I understand your main reason to think that I am scum has to do with me lurking, which is not the case at all of what I was doing. What I have been doing this whole thread has been asking questions when I don't understand something or only talking when I have something useful to contribute aka not just posting to post. If you think I am wrong anywhere in this post point it out and I will explain why I am not wrong or apologize for it. ##vote DragonReborn422 | ||
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On July 24 2011 01:23 DragonReborn422 wrote: His final post during the time of this writeup. He thinks I'm trying to save myself and don't think he's scum, thus to wagon him. Um, of course I'm going to vote someone and not vote myself. sorry buddy. But, I voted for him yesterday already!! I have called him out on being safe and passive as being scummy. I've never thought he was scum because he was lurking. There are people with far fewer posts than him. Now he votes me....if you read his previous posts...I was "not near as suspicious as I thought" to trotske. but now he votes me! and he claims that i'm voting him to save myself. what!? hypocrisy. What in the world have I done in the very few posts in between to make me the best lynch for him. tldr; trotske probably a scum Here is where you said I was lurking the thread On July 23 2011 03:43 DragonReborn422 wrote: you look kind of scummy to me. "scummy" is all relative. you're lurking in the thread..popping up when your name gets mentioned. and that's about it. you're flying pretty low key...a pretty decent mafia candidate imo. oh and there's Another one On July 23 2011 23:40 DragonReborn422 wrote: Trotske has played an interesting game. His posts have been very methodical although sometimes with some errors. He is very actively lurking the thread. Many of his posts are in the form of a question for another player to clarify. These kind of posts are very safe as he doesn't antagonize anyone or allow him the chance to slip up. Pretty common activity for a newer scum player not sure about what to post to try to fit in. Otherwise, he is fairly noncommittal about who he thinks is scum. I'm going to upgrade him to a moderate scum lean. I have a moderate-heavy lean on Vicera being a scum...but this is more of a feel play here. I think his early game looks like a scum player who has had a few games of experience under his belt and tries a little too hard to fit in with the village. (This is why I call his posts forced.) I don't remember much about him after our squabble..but I will re-read. Sveryn, you wwere kind of flying under the radar. I had a slight scum lean on you at the beginning of the day. You popped in with a fair amount of posts yesterday. It feels like you feel content to lynch whoever. You're not really looking for scum candidates. I think you are a little >rand chance of being scum. Jacinto is probably my weakest scum candidate. I mostly feel like one of jacinto or vicera have to be scum but not both. everything else you said I addressed in my last post. On July 24 2011 00:40 Trotske wrote: DR I think your reason's for trying to make a wagon on me have more to do with you trying to save yourself and less about me being scum. Please show me where I have acted as Scum and not just asked for clarifications on certain things due to the fact that this is my first game of mafia, EVER. This whole game I have tried to reason out some of the positions other people have held using logic and the Question "does this help the town?" From what I understand your main reason to think that I am scum has to do with me lurking, which is not the case at all of what I was doing. What I have been doing this whole thread has been asking questions when I don't understand something or only talking when I have something useful to contribute aka not just posting to post. If you think I am wrong anywhere in this post point it out and I will explain why I am not wrong or apologize for it. ##vote DragonReborn422 anything else you want to lie about besides saying you never thought I was lurking the thread? | ||
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On July 24 2011 02:07 DragonReborn422 wrote: This is EXACTLY what I wrote. trotske, your posts are getting worse and worse. seriously. I quoted and bolded that part of your post in my post seriously. That is the part of your post I think you lied about and I have proof. On July 23 2011 23:40 DragonReborn422 wrote: Trotske has played an interesting game. His posts have been very methodical although sometimes with some errors. He is very actively lurking the thread. Many of his posts are in the form of a question for another player to clarify. These kind of posts are very safe as he doesn't antagonize anyone or allow him the chance to slip up. Pretty common activity for a newer scum player not sure about what to post to try to fit in. Otherwise, he is fairly noncommittal about who he thinks is scum. I'm going to upgrade him to a moderate scum lean. I put the bits in bold that show you thought it was scummy of me to be lurking. Which you then said you didn't think. Oh and all this was posted AFTER you voted for me as scum. . | ||
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On July 24 2011 03:59 DragonReborn422 wrote: Curuu. you misrepresent almost everythign in my posts. learn to read people's posts before posting. i'm kind of tired of replying to people who can't read. Can you point out where he does this? I would like to see it. | ||
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The first persons posts I looked at after getting a sort of scum vibe from him is VisceraEyes. Most of his recent posts are him trying to discredit and cast a scummy shadow over Ace but when looking through his posts I havn't found any really good reasons that Ace is scum. He tells the town to look over Ace's posts here + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2011 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Ace: Okay, regarding this post. ##Vote: Ace First of all, you never tried to defend Dragon (unless you count the "chainsaw lol defense" of Palmar voting for Dragon), so it's really easy to come in after he flips and say "Oh, you idiots, he was obviously innocent. lrn2reed" And further, you're so distraught over the loss of this guy that you're just going pretend to not try in frustration of us all being so lolbad? Please. This farce ends here. Town: Ace is scum. He didn't even HAVE to try and get Dragon lynched because he was playing so scummy, so Ace's vote was safely on someone else. I voted for Ace earlier but removed it because I didn't feel confident that I could get him lynched...so I thought I'd go after his partner and save Ace for later. I still strongly believe he's scum and if anyone disagrees with me ur lolbad and I quit, just like Ace is pretending to do, but for real. (lol j/k...but srsly, he's scum). I'd really like town to take a look at his posts and ask yourself "if Ace is town, why is he acting like this?" I haven't been able to figure it out. And NOW he says that he's not even going to try this game "like the rest of you" because "we don't read the thread". Why in the hell would he say this as town? A vote for Ace is a vote for scum. I promise. WIFOM says he going to claim power-role if we start voting his way just so we policy-don't-lynch, so be prepared. We MUST lynch him tonight. I'm afraid of him as scum. VisceraEyes P.S. WIFOM also says cue Ace's pre-written "lol@Viscera's super-bad-tunnel play". It's sure to be "convincing". Well I did look over Ace's posts and for everything he posted he had a reason that he told us about and backs up his stuff up. VE on the other hand hasn't backed up his claims with any quotes of posts other than saying "you didn't try to back up dragon" When Ace's two posts before the lynch were exactly that. + Show Spoiler + On July 23 2011 19:50 Ace wrote: You guys should drop your votes on DR22. There isn't a good case against him and Palmar is a far more detrimental player to the Town. Then again my last post about reading the thread got ignored so I'm not even surprised it's come to this. Can anyone show me an actual good case against DR22? + Show Spoiler + On July 23 2011 20:59 Ace wrote: detrimental to town = you being Scum. And once again, here you go stretching things to your definition of what you want to appear. What flimsy evidence have I defended DR22? The case against him is weaker than the case against you. How can you even dare say he isn't committing to his Scum reads when VE has already accused like 4 people? It's funny because if you read DR22's posts it's perfectly possible to see that when he listed his Town reads, he could have easily leaned towards taking back his Scum reads and going for a lurker. Of course you somehow didn't see this - but thats because you aren't reading the thread. I don't know DR22's alignment (lol stop trying to plant your little bugs, it's cute but your efforts are so transparent) but I do know the case for lynching him is weak, especially with your Scummy play so far. someone else I have had my eye on is RedFF simply because His posts havn't been helpful at all. here he posts an img saying that the vote on DR was a bandwagon which might be true + Show Spoiler + Two posts later he votes for DR. Here is a post from VE putting distance from him and RedFF by disagreeing with him on why Jacinto got hit and then leads that into saying his reasoning supports that Ace is scum again with no proof other than thats what he "feels." + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2011 14:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Seriously? 1/4 through the day and I'm the only vote, and only the second thread?? I guess GMarshal's leniency was taken to heart. Lurker mode commence. @red I'm not sure if I agree that Jacinto was a blue-snipe. He didn't talk about detectives in a way that hinted or indicated that he was fishing for advice on how to play as one, which seems more likely in a new player as you (accurately imo) deduce. I feel like the hit was designed more specifically to deny town information. When we mislynched Dragon, Jacinto was one of the earlier votes (less suspicious) and simultaniously one of the less vocal (less information to confirm). And one of the only players' meta I feel supports that level of finesse is Ace. See above post. My view on Ace is that He hasn't been trying to fit in like most Scum try to fit in. I am also going to say that I feel like Ace hasn't been doing alot to push his agenda it feels to me like he jsut chimes in every now and then and says what he thinks. | ||
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On July 26 2011 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote: Whether it was the point of your post or not, part of your argument was defending Ace. I understand that you're saying redFF and I are scum, and for the record, I wasn't rying to 'distance' myself from him, only give my opinion to him the only way I can in a game with no PM's...in-thread. So what, I'm not allowed to disagree with someone's points without that being construed as 'distancing'? Your logic there is flawed. FoS: Trotske if Ace flips red today for defending against a case made against Ace and then backpedaling to 'distance' himself from the action. I'm not saying your scum for disagreeing with RedFF I'm saying that from your other posts you look scummy and your reasoning for disagreeing was just a feeling making it more suspicious if you are Scum making it look to me that you are trying to distance your self from your scum buddy by disagreeing without actually giving a good reason for it. | ||
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On July 26 2011 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually, your main argument is that I'm not giving 'reasons' for what I say...that it's based on how I feel. And that was the very first thing I responded to. So try again I guess? You mean when you responded by confirming that was true? | ||
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On July 26 2011 07:19 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes, and explained why. Lack of reasoning for voting IS suspicious, but I have my reasons...they're just not backed up by his posts...but guess what? He's not posting anymore! So what am I supposed to do about it? I referred everyone back to his posts with an assignment. Did you do it? Did you go back and read his posts thinking 'Why would he say this as town? Why would he consider this as town? Why would he act this way as town?" I was literally unable to answer those questions when I read through his posts....so my conclusion is that he's scum and he's playing a very dangerous game...acting so scummy that many won't believe that he's scum. But I'm not fooled, and I'm pushing for his lynch. If you don't agree with me, that's fine...but it doesn't make me scum. It just makes me wrong. Something else I find suspicious is that you're suspecting the one person trying to save this game from the inactivity monster. So what, you're content to let the thread sit in silence and no-lynch to scum victory? What I find suspicious is that you are so sure Ace is scum and when I point out that you have no hard evidence you don't go look for it to prove your point. Notice I haven't voted yet because I'm still trying to get information which is what this is all about and the main information I have gotten from you is that you were pushing for a lynch when we had over 24 hours left with very little evidence which makes me think that there is another reason you want Ace lynched. | ||
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My most likely mafia right now are RedFF, Palmer, and aprudds. I still don't think anyone has made a real case vs Ace that is better than any of these three people. I think right now the best case is against aprudds so to recap. + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2011 11:32 Sevryn wrote: Tunnels VE for like 3 posts straight Than this post which really put me against DR. same kind of thing attacking DR without attacking his arguments. ##unvote ##vote aprudds I would prefer to see aprudds lynched today but ace is a good target aswell + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2011 07:16 Pyo wrote: Yeah, I guess I have been kind of lazy. Seeing town jump on a bandwagon like that day 1 was certainly demoralizing. I've also kind of bummed myself out of Arkham Asylum too. But I'll start contributing: If you look back at how the DR bandwagon developed, it all started with this post by Jacinto: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10420934 I thought this was a perfectly reasonable "get the ball rolling" attack on DR. The case was weak, mostly just non-commital play. I figured DR would just brush it off and the case would be dropped, and I thought DR's post was perfectly reasonable: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10429554 Palmar next throws in a few jabs at DR (typical in-your-face Palmar play), but he seems more occupied with RedFF, and even threw out a jab at me as well. VisceraEyes next jumps in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430096 This vote almost feels like VE is reacting to the fact that he doesn't like DR for agreeing with/not being against Ace's plan. I'm not convinced that this is particularly scummy in that it feels a little too committal toward a brewing bandwagon. The next thing to crop up which really got the ball rolling was this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430660 Here aprudds throws out an ad-hom attack on DR. This is eerily reminiscent of how he managed to start a bandwagon against Freeloader in mafia XL. (For those that don't know, after role PMs went out, Freeloader asked whether mafia could PM each other despite the "no PMs" rule. aprudds brought this up as a scum slip and had the whole town distracted by it for all of day 1.) In this post aprudds is painting DR as an unlikable guy, sort of needlessly needling him/trolling him into acting scummier. And he continues to do it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430971 However, appruds doesn't vote for DR right away. It really feels like aprudds is riling up the town making them dislike DR while not really committing to him. It is only after Palmar also votes for DR that you finally cast your vote. To me that seems really scummy and manipulative, just like he played in mafia XL. ##vote: aprudds ##Vote aprudds What happened to me thinking VE is scum you say? I think hes just a misguided townie who needs to reread why he thinks Ace is scum and I don't actually think hes scum anymore when I don't actually have a better scum read on him than RedFF, Palmer, and aprudds. | ||
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On July 26 2011 00:32 Trotske wrote: someone else I have had my eye on is RedFF simply because His posts havn't been helpful at all. here he posts an img saying that the vote on DR was a bandwagon which might be true + Show Spoiler + Two posts later he votes for DR. Is one reason I am getting a scummy feel from redFF another is that Most of his few posts havn't really been helpful in anyway or are just one liners without backing anything up. Palmer Is more of a he hasnt been around much on D2 TBH I don't have much of a case on him he just feels scummy to me so I thought I would get some pressure on him. | ||
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## unvote ##vote Ace at least this way we get some more info instead of just letting mafia get a free day. | ||
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On July 27 2011 07:17 Palmar wrote: or that he wanted people like you to try to push away from his lynch, now we obviously know it was just indifference. There are plenty of reasons, he tried to get me lynched on the shittiest evidence I've seen, half of it fabricated, then he just called everyone stupid and left the thread. And then the fact that he randomly decided to defend a scummy player on day 1. This to be honest I didn't care if ace was mafia or town because either he was a useless townie or he was mafia either way he was the best lynch candidate. The whole day I was trying to get people to talk so that maybe we could have someone better to lynch than ace but there just wasn't. Even though he was so sure that Ace was scum I don't think VE is. While his reasons for tunneling Ace weren't very good ones they were the best we had to go on. The people who strike me as scummy right now are aprudds, redFF , and now Curu. | ||
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On July 27 2011 07:33 Curu wrote: Sevyrn, use your head for a second and think okay? Tomorrow is mylo. If you think hard enough, you can see why DT needs to claim now. So what you are saying is you need a DT to claim and hope that there is a medic? | ||
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Mafia can just counter claim any DT or claim first and then say it was a mafia counter claim if a real DT comes along. Claiming gets us nowhere. we still don't know who to trust. | ||
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I will also note that If I had realized that we only had one chance to get a mafia lynch left if ace turned out to be a townie I would have stopped the lynch but this being my first mafia game and all i missed it sorry but its not like you said that or anything when you were asking people to stop the lynch. so please do the town a favor and stop assuming I knew everything you said I did. | ||
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On July 28 2011 07:00 Curu wrote: Making this post 1 minute before the deadline in case I die. I also can’t let Mafia see it with time to change anything. You know how I said the DT needed to claim at night to be trusted right? Well if he didn’t die, you still can’t trust him. He could easily still be Mafia trying to push a mislynch. The only way you can trust the DT is if he died as that would absolutely confirm him. So, if anyone other than the claimed DT dies, do not trust any DT claims. So I know I’ve been pushing Trotske as the lynch, but for the same reasons there’s something far more damning: He cannot possibly have thought Ace was playing so poorly as scum. He was tunneling from the start for Ace’s mislynch. Trotske’s mistake is a possible noob mistake, VE’s was not. Keep in mind that Mafia is highly unlikely to bus teammates at mylo. Town also cannot afford to be misled by Mafia, even one of you. VE or Trotske are my best bets, with something like 80% VE and 20% Trotske. this is an interesting point about VE, if you go over his posts a lot of them are what ver says are classic mafia small talk type posts. | ||
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On July 28 2011 07:12 redFF wrote: thats an odd choice for a kill. we dont need to worry about setup palmar. its 4 town 3 scum left that is all that matters. trotske is mafia ##Vote trotske. no and who's we? 5 town and 3 mafia | ||
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What does this show besides after a day of arguing with VE I decided I would rather have ace lynch than a no lynch so at least that way we get some more info. before you guys vote for me go back and read those pages in the thread. | ||
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On July 28 2011 09:22 redFF wrote: i actually do think scum is probably palmar/trotske/one of the random lurkers. i've been wrong before tho. I'd like trotske to point out how ive been scummy tho that will be interesting. The main thing is you havn't posted a legit original thought this whole thread and half your posts are one liners with no thought behind them. And you have been tunneling the shit out of townies the whole game. I will post more detailed posts when I get home. I really want to hear from people like Sevryn, Fortune (who hasn't been seen in forever), and Pyo. The main problem I feel in this game has been so little activity from half the pople in the game so we have like no little info but we are in a shitty enough position that mafia can be inactive and we can't mkae a case against them. | ||
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On July 29 2011 02:32 Curu wrote: What the hell is this. There is no DT and if there was, he missed his chance to be at all useful to Town. Only way you can trust him is if he claims, leaves his investigations, and also dies. Everyone's inactive as hell so waiting a day doesn't provide anything. If VE is scum, Pyo is probably his buddy. what? either your not thinking or you are scum one more day means mafia gets to hit someone which will tell us more than we have now. I was thinking about a no lynch earlier and I think it might be the best option. anyone have a good argument against it? | ||
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On July 29 2011 06:03 Palmar wrote: tomorrow all it takes is one single townie voting wrong, and the mafia team can just last minute change their votes and win. At least it takes two wrong townie votes today. Alright that is a good point. | ||
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On July 29 2011 23:51 Palmar wrote: Let me know if anyone is actually going to read that case or wants explanation of any of my actions. I don't talk with mafia so I'm not replying directly to VisceraEyes. did you take that post as a personal attack or something? holy shit bro if your interested in defending yourself don't become indifferent like Ace.... he just made your whole post history look like scum and I think its the best case vs anyone we have and you don't care enough to defend yourself? if you were town wouldn't you defend yourself to protect a mislynch? ##vote Palmer | ||
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On July 29 2011 23:59 Palmar wrote: There is no reason to read things when you're trying to make up stuff that's untrue. Anyone should be able to deduce that my first post of "You're legit town bro" was sarcasm. And same with my first reply to Ace's idea. You just choose to ignore that because you're trying to bend my actions into something you can possibly paint as anti-town. there we go that's a start, While its true that does look like sarcasm the rest of his posts makes some good points care to address those? | ||
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On July 30 2011 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh, and for the record: Palmar doesn't speak with 'scum'...but after Trotske votes for him his tune changes and starts to actually defend himself (weakly), even responding directly to me (lol). Way to stick with your convictions bro. Any other policies you care to share with us so we can completely disregard them? <3 Did you just call me scum? Thanks to Palmer deciding against his "convictions" I am reading not just his posts but who he is responding too and he's not really looking scummy from most of what you said. Half of the conclusions you drew were from "Here he says one thing. then here he says the opposite" the only thing is a lot of what he said can easily be taken as a joke post.... | ||
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On July 30 2011 01:07 VisceraEyes wrote: No, I was commenting on the fact that he thinks I'M scum, and is actually talking to me, in spite of the fact that 'he doesn't speak with mafia'. yea but the whole argument about that post seems a bit retarded, it seems like you are grasping straws to make him look like scum. | ||
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On July 30 2011 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Based on Sev's post, my guess to the scumteam is: Sevyrn, Trotske, Palmar. GG to these guys for a game well-played. Yup we are Leading town to a scum lynch with you hanging. | ||
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On July 30 2011 07:16 redFF wrote: LOLOLLOLOLOOLOOLOOOLOLOLOOOOL I Take it your mafia then? | ||
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Sevryn, wasn't really doing anything scummy and was atleast a little active / under the radar. | ||
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