EPTI would love to play in a small normalish game and have a ton of free time coming up
so /in
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I would love to play in a small normalish game and have a ton of free time coming up so /in | ||
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On July 23 2011 03:16 DragonReborn422 wrote: palmar looks so scummy that he can't be a scum. he's just a confused villager imo saying something looks so scummy that they cant be scum is bad logic. basicly your saying if scum just plays super dumb and scummy people will be well no scum would be that obvious. some people are just bad. and thats a great way for you to save your scum buddy palmar from suspision. | ||
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On July 23 2011 05:11 Fortress Fortune wrote: @trotske added VE nested quote to keep context. Did you read the rules? Edits are not allowed at all | ||
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On July 23 2011 03:22 DragonReborn422 wrote: What is odd about my list? Are you not accustomed to lists or do you disagree with my thoughts on the players? Please expand. Basically saying the other person doesn't understand how good a list is without explaining why the list is good. On July 23 2011 01:34 DragonReborn422 wrote: well, you're certainly giving me enough attention. move onto something else kitty. tell him to stop pressuring him without giving a reason as to why he shouldn't be pressured On July 23 2011 02:51 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'm trying to find the mafia regardless of what some of you might think. Trying to save myself does help find the mafia as I am 100% sure of my own role. I apologize if I am doing it differently than how some of you may be accustomed to. I'm not familiar with the traditions on the forum. once again using how experienced he is with mafia but how inexperienced he is on TL mafia as an excuse as to why his play is odd. On July 23 2011 00:14 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'm ok with a random lynch. I'm also ok for an unrandom lynch. pointless post. On July 22 2011 23:57 DragonReborn422 wrote: @Palmar I've agreed to Ace's plan. Where? Please show me a post that DIRECTLY states we should random lynch. I've given some arguments on why a random lynch is OK because some of you guys didn't understand it. Also your sample size of 8 games makes you the mafia theorycrafter to tell me who has played over 100 what i do is stupid? for real? once again waving around how experienced he is. Basic a lot of his post seem to contradict each other. he claims to be super experienced but never explains why he does what he does. such as why the list is good instead of maybe your not used to lists. A large number of posts are useless and don't add anything while looking like they are doing something. He is the scummiest I am seeing at the moment. ##vote DragonReborn422 | ||
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On July 23 2011 05:49 DragonReborn422 wrote: @Sevryn I'm just at a loss of words at your last post. Every one of your points is either blatantly wrong or a misrepresentation. I will respond more in depth in a second. Good maybe you can explain some of your reasoning as well | ||
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On July 23 2011 05:56 DragonReborn422 wrote: I asked him if lists were uncommon or he didn't like my points. what are you talking about explaining why a list is good. I've given all my reads at that particular point in the game. I also made a post explaining that if dead and I turn up a townie you have some observations from me as a verified townsperson. he wasn't pressuring me. he kept badgering me about my game experience and my e-peen or whatever and i told him to drop it. that's all. I've seen this line a few times now. What exactly is "odd?" not a pointless post. i've had to repeat myself several times because people keep making things up. i've had to repeat myself several times. this might be the worst post of all. "Basically a lot of his post seem to contradict each other." You can't throw a statement out like that and not show where I contradict myself. I'm not here to explain everything I do. I'm here to find mafia members. I have to explain a LIST? WTF? It's a list of my reads on people. Take it for what it's worth. Feel free to use anything from it...feel free to ignore it. It's a list of my reads at the moment. Can you comment on why if someone looks scummy enough they are no longer considered scum by you? and what is the point at which someone is to scummy to be scum? | ||
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This is just really bad town play by you. | ||
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On July 23 2011 06:10 DragonReborn422 wrote: @Sevryn I've answered all your question and concerns. Please answer one of mine. You say "Basic a lot of his posts contradict one another" Please show the posts which contract each other. Your whole playstyle is contradicting you basically say "look at me im so exp follow me everyone i will part the waters." and then when someone calls you out instead of supporting yourself you suggest maybe your they aren't used to the way you play. Also you say you answered my questions and concerns but you never say how saying someone is so scummy they couldn't be scum is reasonable logic. its like you have levels of scummy and once someone goes so high they become town again? | ||
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especially on day one when its such limited information if someone looks scummy you jump down their pants and grab hold of the short hairs till they convince you they are not. | ||
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On July 23 2011 06:33 Jacinto wrote: Here is how i deduce it. Set Up: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% What you are saying is that you think there is less than 25% chance for us to hit scum, and as you can see, we have higher chances than that with RL. So if that's your stance, why wouldn't you support RL? your math is wrong 3/12 is 25% not 33% | ||
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On July 23 2011 06:46 DragonReborn422 wrote: I don't really have much more to say. All the discussion seems to stem around me. I've addressed everything that I have found...if your not satisfied...then I'm sorry. You guys think I'm bad...I think you're bad...whatever. I have nothing to add on matters regarding my stance on the random lynch or my list (lol at making fun of a list of my reads). My likelier scum suspects at the moment are about the same as this mroning. trotske, vicera, sveryn, and maybe jaycinto (but definitely not jaycinto and vicera both). I'll hop in on other discussions or if there's something new addressed to me. Do you have any reasons to support your scum reads ATM? | ||
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so if someone would kindly vote for DR422 we can get the scum killing train on the tracks | ||
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On July 24 2011 03:37 DragonReborn422 wrote: +townie points but definitely a confused one as i am not scum dude its to late to try and make me your buddy by giving me some of your "townie points" | ||
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On July 24 2011 04:03 DragonReborn422 wrote: clearly we've had 0 discussion today because of ace's plan. I can see how my post is somewhat vague. What I mean when I said "I don't care a lick about the lynch" is whether it was random lynch or not. I never claimed to help inexperienced players. don't know where you get this from. we have had discussion today because we didnt agree to RL | ||
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Ace seems to me to have come into this game with the attitude that town is boned and its all just a barrel of laughs which makes me think there is a good chance he is scum. because there isn't that much to read off of Pyo im going to vote ace for now. ##Vote Ace | ||
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On July 26 2011 03:59 redFF wrote: Yeah I think trotske is scum ##vote trotske Reasons? | ||
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On July 26 2011 07:16 Pyo wrote: Yeah, I guess I have been kind of lazy. Seeing town jump on a bandwagon like that day 1 was certainly demoralizing. I've also kind of bummed myself out of Arkham Asylum too. But I'll start contributing: If you look back at how the DR bandwagon developed, it all started with this post by Jacinto: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10420934 I thought this was a perfectly reasonable "get the ball rolling" attack on DR. The case was weak, mostly just non-commital play. I figured DR would just brush it off and the case would be dropped, and I thought DR's post was perfectly reasonable: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10429554 Palmar next throws in a few jabs at DR (typical in-your-face Palmar play), but he seems more occupied with RedFF, and even threw out a jab at me as well. VisceraEyes next jumps in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430096 This vote almost feels like VE is reacting to the fact that he doesn't like DR for agreeing with/not being against Ace's plan. I'm not convinced that this is particularly scummy in that it feels a little too committal toward a brewing bandwagon. The next thing to crop up which really got the ball rolling was this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430660 Here aprudds throws out an ad-hom attack on DR. This is eerily reminiscent of how he managed to start a bandwagon against Freeloader in mafia XL. (For those that don't know, after role PMs went out, Freeloader asked whether mafia could PM each other despite the "no PMs" rule. aprudds brought this up as a scum slip and had the whole town distracted by it for all of day 1.) In this post aprudds is painting DR as an unlikable guy, sort of needlessly needling him/trolling him into acting scummier. And he continues to do it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430971 However, appruds doesn't vote for DR right away. It really feels like aprudds is riling up the town making them dislike DR while not really committing to him. It is only after Palmar also votes for DR that you finally cast your vote. To me that seems really scummy and manipulative, just like he played in mafia XL. ##vote: aprudds This is a really strong case. aprudds was kind of flying under my radar. Right now my top candidates for scum are 1. Ace 2. aprudds 3.Trotske | ||
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On July 22 2011 12:32 aprudds wrote: And yes VisceraEyes, it does look like your making stuff up and putting them in people's mouths. It's quite annoying actually, and it hasn't even happened to me yet. On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote: So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"? On July 22 2011 12:46 aprudds wrote: Then go scum hunt. Why are you getting so worked up over something pointless? Do you honestly believe people will go for a random lynch if you have solid evidence against someone? I think you just have a bone to pick with ace and are trying to find any excuse to point at him. Tunnels VE for like 3 posts straight On July 23 2011 01:11 aprudds wrote: Dragon for such a "EXPERIENCED PLAYER" your play has been less then stellar. Stuff like Makes me cry and laugh at the same time. You really seem to like waving your penis around eh? + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2011 10:10 DragonReborn422 wrote: i was a heavy post counter for werewolf games on 2+2's puzzles and other games. I'm not sure if i will continue that trend on here for mafia games. I'm sure i will have to adjust to the play style on here. I've mostly played "vanilla games" and not "mish-mash games" which have creative roles. I have probably 100 or so vanilla games played and about 10 mish-mash games played. I remember the first time a bunch of us played a game on mafiascum and we got into a flame war with the forum just because the style of the game is so different between forums. I am fairly elitist and think my own style is very good, but I'm ok with taking a backseat and learning the ropes on a new forum. I will post some reads soon. I like your style of flexing your over 9000 games played. With that many games your reads must be super awesome as well! + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote: Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though. FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way. You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera. I like Ace's posts. Some deep reasoning there. I guess your scumdar is just that good from all those games you played........ + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2011 11:23 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'm not necessarily in favor of a random lynch. However, a random lynch has a solid success rate. Given that this is a game with a fair amount of beginners, it can be very easy for the mafia to direct the kills in this game. Again, a lot of this depends on how much you have played...but it looks like you have some experience. I think your posts look a little forced and look helpful to the casual eye but really isn't helpful. Objecting to a random lynch by saying we have a higher chance of finding a mafia sounds really nice in theory....but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1. Or not..... I guess your scumdar is pretty terrible then. Put that penis down, your not the best player in the world and acting like it is just making you look like a fool. Your pride and indecisiveness is just going to get you hanged. Than this post which really put me against DR. On July 23 2011 01:30 aprudds wrote: Your waving it again. I don't think you can even recognize it. same kind of thing attacking DR without attacking his arguments. ##unvote ##vote aprudds I would prefer to see aprudds lynched today but ace is a good target aswell | ||
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##Vote: Ace | ||
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On July 27 2011 07:27 Curu wrote: Also, if there is a DT you claim NOW and leave the results of your investigations. No DT claim is to be trusted after this Night, because if Mafia fake claims a DT and gets a mislynch out of it then Town's already lost. yea claim at night so mafia know who to kill | ||
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On July 27 2011 07:33 Curu wrote: Sevyrn, use your head for a second and think okay? Tomorrow is mylo. If you think hard enough, you can see why DT needs to claim now. No need for the ad hominem attack man. I didn't realize it was mylo while it sucks IF we have a DT they should claim. | ||
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On July 28 2011 07:26 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: Trotske One down. Two to go. Care to throw that gif up on here red? The gif you guys were talking about in your quicktopic? ##vote VisceraEyes | ||
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On July 30 2011 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Final thought...it got awfully quiet in here once I decided to give up defending myself. Seems like someone doesn't want to disturb the done deal. What a good way to bring that up. "Hey guys my team hasn't defended me so I'm town" | ||
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