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DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:03 GMT
#121
On July 22 2011 11:59 Trotske wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 11:54 DragonReborn422 wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:49 Trotske wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence.


I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH.

I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!!


How can the town do worse than a RL day1.


I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite.

We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 22 2011 03:04 GMT
#122
you want a shovel to dig yourself out of the hole you're making? I'd help you bro, but this champagne glass I'm holding is a little too smooth to put down.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 22 2011 03:04 GMT
#123
YAY head to head with the masta. Take note guys. If Ace is on the wagon, I'm surely going to die...so PLEASE remember who drove this wagon and why. I provided ample reason (at this stage in the game) for my vote, Ace has not. Just says it's easy. *shrug* Honestly, I think HE'S making it too easy too...but that's just my opinion.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 22 2011 03:05 GMT
#124
VisceraEyes should be renamed Sixth Sense because he's seeing things.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 22 2011 03:05 GMT
#125
I'm not digging a hole Ace, you are. But unfortunately, it's good to be king amirite?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
July 22 2011 03:07 GMT
#126
[QU+ Show Spoiler +
OTE]On July 22 2011 12:03 DragonReborn422 wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:59 Trotske wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 11:54 DragonReborn422 wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:49 Trotske wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence.


I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH.

I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!!


How can the town do worse than a RL day1.


I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite.

We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more.
[/QUOTE]

Thank you, that's what I wanted a solid reason.

DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:08 GMT
#127
Trotske, I'm glad you found a reason...but again I have never in one way or another promoted a random lynch. I just find this discussion about it somewhat interesting.
vonKlaust
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden158 Posts
July 22 2011 03:09 GMT
#128
On July 22 2011 11:58 Ace wrote:
That is only true if we are in a setup with no DT/Medic, everyone gets null reads and we don't lynch a Mafia on Day 1. Otherwise we'll be in a better position.


This is true. But I still it's only 25% chance that we are. We even gain some even if we have a cop and not a medic(but i guess it would not be worth it). But even then I don't see the point of not gaining additional information about players, and do a RL instead of trying to go for a conscious lynch. Even if we misslynch we will have a day extra of posts we can generate information to analyze.
None.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:10 GMT
#129
On July 22 2011 12:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On July 22 2011 11:23 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I think your posts look a little forced and look helpful to the casual eye but really isn't helpful. Objecting to a random lynch by saying we have a higher chance of finding a mafia sounds really nice in theory....but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1.


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


You're continuing to insist that my posts aren't helpful to the inexperienced here in town. What you should be saying is that my posts aren't helpful to YOU. I'm not even TRYING to be helpful. I'm just posting what I've found from my limited experience what a beneficial environment to find scum in would be. Take it or leave it bro, that's totally up to you.


Actually your posts have been helpful to me. They have made you look scummy (to me of course).
And I've given you the reason why and apparently you're not satisfied. That's ok I guess.
vonKlaust
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden158 Posts
July 22 2011 03:13 GMT
#130
Oh, I think i have missunderstood your post Ace.
Please explain how we are in a better possition in the setup with just a medic.
None.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 22 2011 03:14 GMT
#131
On July 22 2011 12:09 Jacinto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 11:58 Ace wrote:
That is only true if we are in a setup with no DT/Medic, everyone gets null reads and we don't lynch a Mafia on Day 1. Otherwise we'll be in a better position.


This is true. But I still it's only 25% chance that we are. We even gain some even if we have a cop and not a medic(but i guess it would not be worth it). But even then I don't see the point of not gaining additional information about players, and do a RL instead of trying to go for a conscious lynch. Even if we misslynch we will have a day extra of posts we can generate information to analyze.


We aren't going to be blindly random lynching though. This very discussion and, if we were to go through with a RL, the way we figure out how to do it will be more than enough ammo for Day 2 reads.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 22 2011 03:16 GMT
#132
*shrugs* Half of town hasn't even showed up yet. We'll see who looks scummier when they have. At this point, I'm CERTAIN of Ace's alignment because he's so fucking good at this game and I'm Town...he'd be able to tell that even if he DIDN'T have more information to start.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 22 2011 03:17 GMT
#133
On July 22 2011 12:13 Jacinto wrote:
Oh, I think i have missunderstood your post Ace.
Please explain how we are in a better possition in the setup with just a medic.


Relative to a setup with no power roles? Isn't that self explanatory?

Maybe this will clear it up:

I'm operating under the assumption that we are in a setup with Vanilla Town vs some combination of Mafia so we don't have to rely on Power Roles. However if one does pop up then we narrow down the setup possibilities.

Does that help?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:18 GMT
#134
On July 22 2011 12:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
*shrugs* Half of town hasn't even showed up yet. We'll see who looks scummier when they have. At this point, I'm CERTAIN of Ace's alignment because he's so fucking good at this game and I'm Town...he'd be able to tell that even if he DIDN'T have more information to start.



I think you overrate how good players can be at this game. But even so...this is Day 1. See you should support a random lynch then because according to you..the experienced mafia player ace is leading the town to lynch you (presumably a townie).
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 22 2011 03:20 GMT
#135
On July 22 2011 12:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
*shrugs* Half of town hasn't even showed up yet. We'll see who looks scummier when they have. At this point, I'm CERTAIN of Ace's alignment because he's so fucking good at this game and I'm Town...he'd be able to tell that even if he DIDN'T have more information to start.



uh...being good at this game doesn't mean I can figure out everyone's alignment. Even on my best days it would take me a while to "get it" and at best probably get Scum lynched no more than 50% of the time.

You misrepresenting what I've said though makes me inclined to believe that you are indeed Scum. I'm just not pushing your lynch seriously because other players haven't chimed in yet.

Besides, I've got another idea in the back of my mind depending on what happens with this Random Lynch stuff.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 22 2011 03:22 GMT
#136
It's just incredible how even DISAGREEING with Ace makes one look scummy. What I'm MOST interested in is how quickly Dragon boarded the Ace Freeway To Town Death. Take notes guys, this is mafia GOLD here.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
vonKlaust
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden158 Posts
July 22 2011 03:24 GMT
#137
Yes, that does make sense. And I do agree with you that the discussion we're having right now is efficient for d2, except for the lurkers. I still don't agree with you that RL would be a good choice, except in a case of emergency, but I'm happy for the moment.
None.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:24 GMT
#138
On July 22 2011 12:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's just incredible how even DISAGREEING with Ace makes one look scummy. What I'm MOST interested in is how quickly Dragon boarded the Ace Freeway To Town Death. Take notes guys, this is mafia GOLD here.


I haven't agreed or disagreed with anyone. Why do people keep making stuff up about what I've said.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 22 2011 03:24 GMT
#139
I'm not going to be bullied into agreeing with you guys. Random Lynch is an awful idea...even if Ace is able to convince town to lynch me, that STILL gives you guys more information tomorrow (presuming I'm not the cop) than a Random Lynch would. I stand by that statement. Firmly.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 22 2011 03:25 GMT
#140
On July 22 2011 12:24 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 12:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's just incredible how even DISAGREEING with Ace makes one look scummy. What I'm MOST interested in is how quickly Dragon boarded the Ace Freeway To Town Death. Take notes guys, this is mafia GOLD here.


I haven't agreed or disagreed with anyone. Why do people keep making stuff up about what I've said.


No, I'VE disagreed with Ace, and now I'M apparently scummy.

That's what I was saying.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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