Pick Their Power Mafia 2

On July 25 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote:


So the content of your post is:

a) let's actually not lynch liars

b) I'll tunnel anyone who dares scumhunt, unless I agree with their methods/arguments.

On July 26 2011 02:00 kitaman27 wrote:




*cough cough*





Two questions were about the set-up. I never passed them off as an attempt at a contribution. Sandroba gave away a kp an hour into the game to a guy named Voldermort. Nobody found that weird? (I'm not saying Sandroba is scum, I'm just questioning why he would ever do something so rash) Mig shot down a town controlled kp plan because of the possible presence of a roleblocker. I found that unlikely and stated so.

Like it or not, Jackal posted his pm's from hosts and as unfair as it is, its pretty likely that he is town. Saying that the scum have access to town win conditions is probably damage control, but that kind of speculation takes away from the spirit of the game I suppose .

Lunch time is over so I won't be able to post more until I get home, but to jump on me because I'm "useless" a few hours into the game is rather silly.

On July 26 2011 02:01 syllogism wrote:

Perhaps Tackster didn't think the role name would be displayed like that and thus the real Tim Roth wouldn't realize to do that. Tackster's role is much better for mafia than Supersoft's; just letting supersoft die would be by far the better option. Tackster is also a veteran while supersoft is a newer player.

On July 26 2011 05:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


if he is red, all checks reveal town maybe sks reveal third party. He just wouldn't out his team. So your idea of reversing all his checks is dumb, its not even guarenteed a red is ever checked by his alignment as they would have no need to participate.

Also, lynching a player based on not participating in a plan that cannot be confirmed without other players using powers / the user of said original power dying is dumb. Kita asked questions, perhaps that is a posting restriction.

Foolishness is using a ton of TLPD in his posts, perhaps that is his posting restriction.

We also have players who were using day vig powers. We have players who on day 1 were calling for people to use day vig powers. We have enough scummy, suspect play on day 1 already. How about we sit back and play normally instead of hoping our trust is rewarded. Luck should not be a factor in how we proceed if its not backed by solid analysis or very very very solidly made plan that has a near 0% chance of failure.

On July 26 2011 06:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Why would jackal have to claim? People know harry potter lore. Voldy is always evil. People would have been hesitant to actually trust him. Except you apparently?

he could have pm'd people using his mason ability and the like and found stuff that way. He opted to day 1 RC. Maybe he was scared, who knows, but it created a situation of chaos not helped get us back on serious track.

On July 27 2011 02:33 Kurumi wrote:
You must Lynch me day 1.

On July 27 2011 06:25 GMarshal wrote:

do we really need to call people "fuckers" to get the point across?

On July 28 2011 06:46 heist wrote:


Do you think these are better lynch targets than kita and nisani?

On July 28 2011 07:13 Drazerk wrote:
Right work sprung up on me these past few days and I've basically had zero time to read the thread. I am catching up now.

Also to explain my case on jackal a bit better and probably get him lynched/shot if he is still alive - I created his role and that's why I know he is lying about needing to kill Voldemort so if we can kill him please do.

I am going to read through the thread now sorry for my activity. Also bring on the penalty it's worth it for a scum kill.

On July 28 2011 09:37 supersoft wrote:


yea the last time was just for fun.

On July 25 2011 15:14 Foolishness wrote:

I don't see anyone making any arguments against Jackal based on his behavior thus far. I read through his posts and frankly there's nothing indicating that he needs to hang from the noose. I am not convinced that a mafia would roleclaim straight up on day 1, that's just an lol newbie move. Of course his responses tomorrow will greatly help us, but lynching him off of flavor text is like lynching off of day 1 clues. It never works, and inactives sit and mafia twiddle their thumbs.

I decided to Start counting the number of posts where kitaman asks a question. I gave up because I was starting to run out of fingers. It would be nice to see him make a post longer than 2 lines.

On July 26 2011 06:16 Foolishness wrote:

No. I want to use our Killer powers to lynch Kita, I want someone to vigi Kurumi, and I want the check on Lanaia or Wiggles. Probably Wiggles.

On July 26 2011 05:35 Foolishness wrote:

Thanks for making me immune to death the rest of the game bro...I Really appreciate it

On July 26 2011 05:41 Foolishness wrote:
This isn't a "normal" game wiggles...far from Reality.

On July 28 2011 10:24 Curu wrote:
That or the sacrifice part suggests that he could be recruited in the night then sacrificed during day, wasn't there a role like that in PTP1? Did anyone create one like that this time?

On July 30 2011 06:27 heist wrote:
I came when I did. Can't really help that. Would you rather I didn't kill him?

On July 31 2011 07:39 Lanaia wrote:



1. I never shot Drazerk. I wouldn't've been able to shoot anyways because I cannot use the same ability two days in a row. Can you tell me why I'm any sort of scum, please?

2. Why would Palmar be roleblocked?

On July 31 2011 07:39 Varpulis wrote:

did he perform an action on you? Is there any way to know? iirc if you perform an action on the same night that you get hit, the action is still performed. Do people join your circle with the day post? I'm deliberating right now. I have pertinent information regarding Amber's killer if he didn't perform an action on you.

On July 31 2011 07:44 Palmar wrote:


Can someone confirm that.

Cause like... I remember back on day 2 it was pretty damn clear that it was the cult that killed supersoft.

On July 31 2011 08:18 Drazerk wrote:



go get bum - it's not like I actually have a vote / decent role I am pretty much useless if I was scum.

I can help direct town which I will now try to do the best I can.

On July 31 2011 08:45 Lanaia wrote:
I didn't shoot kita because I was yelled at for my last kill.
I also believe we have a mafia roleblocker at this point seeing as there's not really another reason for me to have been blocked. Are we 100% sure kita is SK and not mafia?

Those were what ran through my mind.

On July 31 2011 08:59 Varpulis wrote:

she can't use her killing power twice in a row.

She literally could not have targeted drazerk with kp yesterday.

On July 31 2011 10:57 kitaman27 wrote:
First off, deconduo you jerk. Can't say I've ever been framed by a host before :p

Take it for what it's worth, but no I didn't not shoot Amber. I have no kp, nor do I have a kp role. I'll role claim if necessary, but not yet. For those who think I'm SK, do we really think the mafia didn't have a single shot go through last night? For those who think I'm scum, would tackster and Foolishness really try to push for my lynch day one, forcing me to submit to an alignment check? Keep in mind this alignment check would have revealed me as mafia OR SK. If I were either of them, there is no way I would submit to either, when there were like 2-3 votes on me.

Another thing to keep in mind. When we created our roles and penalties, they DID NOT go to the same person. That means the person who created Varp's role DID NOT create his penalty. How on earth would someone randomly create a penalty, guessing its for a dt type role.

sandroba, are you 100% denying that your "cult" with a confirmed kp was not responsible for the "sacrifice"? I'm not sure I buy that.

chaos, where are you? We need a role claim.

On July 31 2011 07:46 Varpulis wrote:
to hell with it. I am the Ghost whisperer. I hear voices in the morning giving clues that could lead to the killer of those who died.

day two the only voice i heard said that a caped crusader visited Jackal. That pointed to palmar.

day two i went under penalty, which means that i hear more voices but most of them are lies.

last night, I heard:

-kitaman27 killed amber
-sandroba inducted amber into a cult
-amber visited chaos13

The third isn't true, palmar confirmed it a couple of posts above. I don't think that amber visited sandroba, which is the only way to get inducted into his cult, so that only leaves kita killing amber.

Kita, do you have something to tell us?

On July 18 2011 20:27 deconduo wrote:
Alive:

1. Palmar (Red Hood) - X
   
2. kitaman27 (Silencer) - X
   
3. Kurumi (Oracle) - Amber
   
4. Amber[LighT] (Gambler) - Wiggles
   
5. Drazerk (Steven Seagal) - X
   
6. heist (puppet master) - X
   
7. bumatlarge - replaced ketomai (alanismorissete) - X
   
8. Sandroba - (Sauron's ring) - drazerk
   
9. DropBear (?Roleblocker) - SuperSoft
   
10. chaos13 (Healer) - sandroba
    
11. Varpulis (Ghost whisperer) - lanaia
    
12. Curu (Rolethief/weird role) - X
    
13. Lanaia (Crap shot fortune teller) - X
    

Replacements:
Pandain
kenpachi


Reserved slots are for players that I like that might want to /in if the game is full.

On July 31 2011 12:15 kitaman27 wrote:


I'll happily mute you if you want me to confirm mine



I initially missed this. Why on earth would you call for a vig shot to try to confirm a sk. Is this the Salem Witch Trials now? We throw me in a lake and if I drown, I'm innocent? Best case, you waste a town kp and have to lynch him anyways. Worst case, you just killed a townie.

Varp, you haven't really addressed curu's question. Where are your results for all the other deaths?

On July 31 2011 12:39 kitaman27 wrote:


If town agrees. The only problem is that I would essentially be your voice for the cycle. Are you willing to submit to that?

Who did you protect night one, chaos?

On August 01 2011 10:07 kitaman27 wrote:


Seems to me you are overthinking things. If curu wasn't the original role theif, than his role creator could have counter-claimed by now, unless all three of them we're scum buddies. You've flipped between Palmar and chaos a bunch of times in the last 24 hours. Mind explaining your thought process?

On August 01 2011 11:22 Curu wrote:


Because I was trying to decide whether I wanted to push Nisani/Chaos or Foolishness, as I thought both sides were scummy (but that they wouldn't be all scum due to my impression of Nisani never being capable of busing a teammate).

That's why I wanted to flip Nisani first - if red, Chaos was probably scum, if green then Foolishness probably was.

I also asked you to clarify on what you were saying when asking what Foolishness tried to do last night as I said I had information about Foolishness that I could reveal, but you never said anything so eventually I just decided to reveal it anyways.

I wanted to wait and see if Foolishness would claim that his role had been stolen, and when he hadn't I had no idea what his motivation for not doing so was. Later in the day, I became aware that Godfather was a role AND alignment change; previously I had thought that it was just an alignment change, so finally I could find a motivation for Foolishness not to reveal he had been hit by the Role Thief.

I clearly wasn't lying about being the Role Thief and I don't think you can find a reason for why I would steal Foolishness's power and then out him if I was Mafia. If I had the desire to push in Chaos/Nisani that day I'm pretty sure I could have, since people weren't absolutely sure about Foolishness until I outed the Role Thief stuff.

On August 01 2011 11:34 Curu wrote:
I'm also going to say this as delicately as possible, you'll have to think a bit to understand my meaning.

I did not/do not want to activate a penalty,
I had the power to steal a role.



Put yourself in my shoes and think about what you would think as soon as you first got this role.

On August 01 2011 11:59 Curu wrote:
Oh, Original Message thing showed up cause I hit reply and copy pasted the text from that.

I can't believe I'm arguing PM mechanics right now -_-

On August 01 2011 12:05 Curu wrote:


You want to push me for PM quotes?