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kitaman27 *
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July 18 2011 11:36 GMT
#7
/in
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 00:27 GMT
#164
So what is the policy on role claims this game? Are we allowed to post our role day one or identify who we picked for if need be?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 00:40 GMT
#173
On July 18 2011 20:26 deconduo wrote:
There may be another secret alignment.


Not sure if anyone has noticed, but this was an addition from the previous game to the OP.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 01:53 GMT
#263
Yawn, can everyone stop with the fake claims already?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 02:03 GMT
#279
Is it safe to assume that all roles were assigned separate from alignment? Or do we have another host created rivalry like last game with the batman and joker?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 02:13 GMT
#293
So you're willing to give away kp an hour into the game sandroba? :/
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 02:15 GMT
#295
Jackal/On, why would you role claim when you knew it was likely that there was a rival that wanted you dead?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 02:54 GMT
#330
Can other players even use the wand if it was given to them? I had assumed it was only for ON or Jackal.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 02:57 GMT
#335
On July 25 2011 11:56 Mig wrote:
Yea I assume no one else can use the wand. I just say give it back to sandroba. I normally think double lynches for town are insanely good but considering mafia can pick when they want to roleblock. I would rather not risk it.


What makes you think mafia has a roleblocker? Seems pretty unlikely to me.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 03:05 GMT
#349
On July 25 2011 12:00 OriginalName wrote:
Would anyone object to me giving the wand to Mig for now?


I would. For all we know, Mig could give it back to his scum partner who is capable of using it.

On July 25 2011 11:59 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 11:57 kitaman27 wrote:

What makes you think mafia has a roleblocker? Seems pretty unlikely to me.


Why is it unlikely? Last ptp there were several rbing roles.


Are you sure about that? It just seems unlikely enough that we shouldn't based our plans around the assumption.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 03:08 GMT
#351
Congrats on 5k :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 03:16 GMT
#357
lol so much for not creating imba roles :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 03:22 GMT
#363
So his alignment check can be used during the day, correct?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 17:00 GMT
#610
On July 25 2011 20:57 sandroba wrote:
Foolishness is right. Let's lynch kita, he been useless and been subtly pushing suspicion into everyone with his question.
##Vote: Kitaman27


On July 25 2011 09:36 sandroba wrote:
if you are pushing hard a lynch for a lynch based on shoody evidence I'll tunnel you into oblivion.


*cough cough*

On July 25 2011 21:07 syllogism wrote:
I concur on kitaman, he hasn't expressed his opinion on the main topic of the day while asking questions which pretty much only serve to make EVERYONE involved look suspicious


On July 25 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Is it safe to assume that all roles were assigned separate from alignment? Or do we have another host created rivalry like last game with the batman and joker?


Two questions were about the set-up. I never passed them off as an attempt at a contribution. Sandroba gave away a kp an hour into the game to a guy named Voldermort. Nobody found that weird? (I'm not saying Sandroba is scum, I'm just questioning why he would ever do something so rash) Mig shot down a town controlled kp plan because of the possible presence of a roleblocker. I found that unlikely and stated so.

Like it or not, Jackal posted his pm's from hosts and as unfair as it is, its pretty likely that he is town. Saying that the scum have access to town win conditions is probably damage control, but that kind of speculation takes away from the spirit of the game I suppose .

Lunch time is over so I won't be able to post more until I get home, but to jump on me because I'm "useless" a few hours into the game is rather silly.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 23:02 GMT
#812
I'm growing rather tired of seeing my name mentioned so many times. Foolishness mentions how I happened to be useless, a few hours in the game and suddenly half the town decides to consider me a prime lynch candidate. (omg, did I just cast suspicion on Foolishness?! ##Vote Kita)

There are three people who have mentioned I've been trying to make others look suspicious by questioning them (You disappoint me Wiggles). Hate to break to you guys, but I can't question someone for being suspicious if they're not suspicious in the first place. I asked Sandroba why he was giving his kp away so readily. That's a valid question. The only reason I'm not pushing it further and willing to think he is just a misguided townie is because he was the first person to identify Jackal's town win condition. From what the town is saying, you would think I'm a propaganda spewing machine.

Lets take a look at our dead scum.

On July 25 2011 23:20 Tackster wrote:
I suggest YM, heist and kita as possible targets


On July 25 2011 23:24 Tackster wrote:
Oh and to explain my target choices:

YM - That vig shot was just awful and to cover yourself with 'mafia would never do this' is pure drivel
Heist - You seemed too into the item game from the start and seemed to be breadcrumbing you had an item or were harry (not scummy but close to lying IMO)
kita - this has been explained at length. Lurk much?


On July 26 2011 00:28 Tackster wrote:
Suspects:
Kitaman
Jackal
heist
sandroba
YM (dead)


Cool, I'm apparently his top suspect. (omg bus! -_-) Last game scum tried to bandwagon me day one because of my "uselessness" and then ended up shooting me day two when I attacked half their team. I fail to see how my contribution is any different from half the other players. I'm not lurking, I'm posting when I'm available. I'm not putting any effort into trying to blend in. That's what scum do. People are just repeating my name a bunch of times without providing valid reasoning. If push comes to shove, I'll take an alignment check, but I would much rather see it used on someone else as a confirmed scum is much more useful than a confirmed town. I'll post in a little bit on who I would prefer it to be.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 23:06 GMT
#814
On July 26 2011 08:04 sandroba wrote:
Yo kita, since you are here, are you willing to take THE TEST?


By test, I assume you refer to the alignment check? I'll take it only if I'm forced to. Obviously, I'm going to push for someone else so it wouldn't be wasted, but I'll assume that's what you would expect everyone to say.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 23:15 GMT
#818
On July 26 2011 08:11 sandroba wrote:
Well, I really think you are scum and a lot of people share my opinion. In your position, the best thing you can do if you are really town is to do the check, so we can move to someone else and hope ss gets shot at night or something, so you are confirmed.


Is there anything I could say otherwise that could change your mind? I honestly don't see how you see me as scummy. The only logical argument you can make is that I haven't caught scum yet, but no one has. I'm not trying to push a scum agenda. You haven't even bothered to make an argument because there isn't one. If I can't convince town to use it on others, I'll take the test if when I pass, town agrees to let me select the lynch
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 23:18 GMT
#820
On July 26 2011 08:14 Foolishness wrote:
Nooooo check Wiggles the serial (Z)Killer!!!


The OP says no posts restrictions are allowed in roles. Either
1) An exception to the rules was made for your role
2) You've created your own post restriction.

If its the first, claim that you do indeed have a post restriction and if that is false, your role creator can counter claim that you are lying. If its the second, you are distracting town. Who cares what you are saying when you're posts are full of progamer names! lolz
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 23:27 GMT
#824
On July 26 2011 08:23 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 08:19 Curu wrote:
What's with all this "I'll get checked if you do xxx and xxx and xxx for me first" bullshit.

If we want to enforce this check, then we lynch anyone who refuses to do it. Remember that people we want checked are people that we probably want lynched too.


I completely agree with you. Kita is asking us to completely give up the democracy of voting and let a single player decide who to lynch


That's not the point though. When I pass the check then I would be practically confirmed town, unless there are multiple people lying about his role or I have a godfather type role, which my role creator can confirm is not true. On day one, I would much rather have a confirmed town decide my fate than a wishy-washy town filled with scum and third party agendas. In truth, nobody is going to go with it so I probably shouldn't have brought it up. I'll post who I want lynched or checked later on.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 23:30 GMT
#826
On July 26 2011 08:24 Foolishness wrote:
Your skill of reading between the lines (and the thread for that matter) is pretty (T)Bogus


Humor me and tell me the reasoning anyways?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 00:07 GMT
#829
On July 26 2011 06:25 Foolishness wrote:
I have slammed my head against my desk so many times reading the thread at the stupidity of players that I'm going to die of blood loss at this rate. I don't want that.


On July 26 2011 06:25 Foolishness wrote:
We use the (Z)Check on someone like Wiggles, and even if it turns up mafia, we still kill Kitaman


Oh god, Foolishness has suffered severe head trauma. Did anyone happen to invent a brain surgeon?

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 00:55 GMT
#830
Sigh, of course the thread dies when I'm around. We honestly don't have much time to discuss an alternate due to the dirty European host end the cycles at 4pm (*shakes fist) so I'll take
the alignment test tonight unless something drastic happens in the next few hours. At this point, I think I'm going to have a hard time convincing a scum to take the test in my place. Nevertheless, here are my preferred targets after reading through the thread a couple times. Its nothing solid and I clearly don't have 100% confidence, but here is a list:

Nisani201 - Ugg and you guys think I'm useless? I can't really say anything other than to ask you guys to look through his posts.

Drazerk - Starts the game with troll posts and really hasn't said anything since. He pushes some doubt onto ON for his Voldermort role and hasn't really showed that he is trying to make an attempt to help town.

Varpulis - Has one post in the thread, which he ironically uses to call me out for lurking.

ketomai - More of a lynch candidate than a alignment check. Zero posts in the thread and a likely modkill. In a normal game, I wouldn't advocate wasting a lynch like this, but in a game with tons of blues, if we don't have a solid lynch candidate on day one then extending the game would be a decent option.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 01:23 GMT
#834
On July 26 2011 10:22 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Sigh, of course the thread dies when I'm around. We honestly don't have much time to discuss an alternate due to the dirty European host end the cycles at 4pm (*shakes fist) so I'll take
the alignment test tonight unless something drastic happens in the next few hours. At this point, I think I'm going to have a hard time convincing a scum to take the test in my place. Nevertheless, here are my preferred targets after reading through the thread a couple times. Its nothing solid and I clearly don't have 100% confidence, but here is a list:

Nisani201 - Ugg and you guys think I'm useless? I can't really say anything other than to ask you guys to look through his posts.

Drazerk - Starts the game with troll posts and really hasn't said anything since. He pushes some doubt onto ON for his Voldermort role and hasn't really showed that he is trying to make an attempt to help town.

Varpulis - Has one post in the thread, which he ironically uses to call me out for lurking.

ketomai - More of a lynch candidate than a alignment check. Zero posts in the thread and a likely modkill. In a normal game, I wouldn't advocate wasting a lynch like this, but in a game with tons of blues, if we don't have a solid lynch candidate on day one then extending the game would be a decent option.


You are getting checked. I agree with mig on that. answer me 2 times pls or you will probably hang tomorrow.


Yawn.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 01:30 GMT
#839
Don't suppose red convinced you with such a compelling argument?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 01:33 GMT
#842
On July 26 2011 10:31 supersoft wrote:
grrr. keep on quoting me, kita.


As you wish, sire.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 01:36 GMT
#844
On July 26 2011 10:34 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:31 supersoft wrote:
grrr. keep on quoting me, kita.


As you wish, sire.


...


Can I go back to being useless once this is over with?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 01:38 GMT
#846
On July 26 2011 10:36 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 10:36 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:34 supersoft wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:31 supersoft wrote:
grrr. keep on quoting me, kita.


As you wish, sire.


...


Can I go back to being useless once this is over with?


we will see.


I'm rather looking forward to the "lol Kita must be godfather" spiels.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 01:42 GMT
#849
On July 26 2011 10:40 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 10:38 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:36 supersoft wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:36 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:34 supersoft wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:31 supersoft wrote:
grrr. keep on quoting me, kita.


As you wish, sire.


...


Can I go back to being useless once this is over with?


we will see.


I'm rather looking forward to the "lol Kita must be godfather" spiels.


i think that's enough...
now I can choose to check you... But I am going to sleep over that decision... and see what the other guys in the thread think about the check.


Oh, you can choose who you check? If that is the case, I don't suppose you want to check someone else after I proved that I was willing? -_-
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 02:02 GMT
#857
On July 26 2011 10:17 Mig wrote:
As for who SS should check, BC should 100% not be checked. If he is mafia he is 99% the GF. So the next best candidate for a check is kita.


I know you guys apparently hate when I ask questions, but I had assume the godfather was assigned by deconduo. Is this true? If so, BC is just as likely to be the gf as everyone else. Is there a reason you don't want him checked?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 02:04 GMT
#858
On July 26 2011 11:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 10:17 Mig wrote:
As for who SS should check, BC should 100% not be checked. If he is mafia he is 99% the GF. So the next best candidate for a check is kita.


I know you guys apparently hate when I ask questions, but I had assume the godfather was assigned by deconduo. Is this true? If so, BC is just as likely to be the gf as everyone else. Is there a reason you don't want him checked?


Otherwise, if the scum picks the godfather than the day one alignment check is pretty worthless as the scum team can select who to assign the role to based on who is checked unless SS decides to quote a bunch of people and not reveal who he picks until afterwards.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 11:46 GMT
#917
On July 26 2011 20:34 Foolishness wrote:
This leads to foolproof logic arguments of "you don't agree with me? you must be mafia!" which reminds me that if I don't believe in another persons' religion I'm automatically going to hell.


You might be already there.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 16:37 GMT
#954
Voting for BC because
1) I enjoy watching him die
2) He refuses to submit to an alignment check

Others should be forced to quote SS. There are a surprisingly few people who are willing to submit to it.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 22:02 GMT
#1210
lol miller? Bad luck, but at least getting a scum on day one counts for something.

What confuses me most is the people who decided to switch off BC after the alignment check came up red. You can spew all the garbage about how you don't lynch a miller, but in reality it was the correct move. The only people who had a right to think he was town after that check was the scum team.

Is it too late to use jackal/sandroba's wand as a night kill? There is a fair list of lurkers that would be worth killing off, but if its not possible, I won't bring them up until after the night kills.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 22:16 GMT
#1215
When its 14-4 a vote change 5 minutes from the lynch isn't going to change things. There is no incentive to stay on BC really. If anything, it just allows their name to be removed from the list. If they thought he was innocent they wouldn't have voted for him and then switched off when his check came red.

On July 27 2011 07:04 syllogism wrote:
BC the scum doesn't spend day 1 antagonizing most of the town for no reason and he had role that is nigh useless for mafia, keeping him alive would have been the correct move


Right, because antagonizing most the town for no reason is clearly so pro-town.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 22:27 GMT
#1219
On July 27 2011 07:20 sandroba wrote:
Kita do you think I'm scum? Who is the person that switched that you actually think is scum?


Like I said before, the role pm incident is what is saving you in my eyes, but I'm displeased otherwise. heist or syllogism could be scum. I'm not ready to say one way or the other. heist made a post earlier on in the thread about jackal that I didn't like, but its hard to put much weight into that without knowing jackals alignment. syllogism said earlier in the thread he either thought BC had a post restriction or was scum. The fact that he chose post restriction shows some signs of guilt if he knew he was a townie.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 26 2011 23:46 GMT
#1227
On July 27 2011 08:24 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 07:28 syllogism wrote:
You are either scum, or haven't actually been reading the thread; time to catch up


WELL ITS HIS BDAY GIVE HIM A BREAK

HAPPY BDAY KITA!


TY <3
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#1469
On July 28 2011 08:05 Curu wrote:
Can we verify this? We know he didn't have the Cloak for sure, since he died to a hit.

sandroba and heist, can you pass me your two items? I'll give them right back, just want to make sure you both still have them.


Sorry guys for being away. Been busy with birthday stuff. By the way Curu, what Harry Potter role do you have? Sandroba please tell me you weren't naive enough to just give him the third hallow....
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#1474
On July 28 2011 11:20 Curu wrote:
I haven't gotten a PM yet, so I assume deconduo is MIA.


deconduo sent me a pm 5 minutes ago :/
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July 28 2011 02:24 GMT
#1476
Remind me why you are collecting items? If jackal was scum, wouldn't players just have secretly given it to him?
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July 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#1487
On July 28 2011 11:28 sandroba wrote:
Why do you care so much who has the stick


Maybe because its a kp to those that can use it? :/

Finding out who is behind the day vig/cult sacrifice should be a priority. If nobody wants to claim creating a sacrificial role then its probably a scum pair.

Mr. Wiggles being double stacked is certainly surprising. He didn't seem like a likely scum target to be hit tonight. He probably was protecting SS when he got hit once, but it makes me suspicious of Wiggles role creator, whoever that might be.

Lanaia shooting red after telling town she had a gut scum read on Drazerk seems bizarre. The only time she ever mentions him was a weird post about his tlpd insertions. Foolishness is still alive, which is always suspicious. We also have absolutely no information about bum. Back to trying to solve the riddles.
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July 28 2011 03:03 GMT
#1490
Also, if anyone created a role that allowed a player to force decoduo to post a fake message, they should claim.
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July 28 2011 03:06 GMT
#1493
On July 28 2011 12:04 deconduo wrote:
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On July 28 2011 12:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Also, if anyone created a role that allowed a player to force decoduo to post a fake message, they should claim.


Its not fake


Were you forced to say that too? I'm on to you....
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July 29 2011 16:32 GMT
#1699
On July 30 2011 01:24 Palmar wrote:
There is another really good point in lynching Foolishness, we get rid of a really dangerous role in the form of the role thief.


...

So you're saying Foolishness became the new role thief? Curu didn't mention that. So are you in contact with either Foolishness or Curu or did you create the role?
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July 29 2011 16:36 GMT
#1703
On July 30 2011 01:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 30 2011 01:24 Palmar wrote:
There is another really good point in lynching Foolishness, we get rid of a really dangerous role in the form of the role thief.


...

So you're saying Foolishness became the new role thief? Curu didn't mention that. So are you in contact with either Foolishness or Curu or did you create the role?


Neither, just assumed it, would be a pretty dick-ish role if he just stole it and the guy becomes vanilla.


Seems like a pretty huge assumption to me. Curu, can you confirm this is how the role works?
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July 29 2011 16:50 GMT
#1706
Also, I'll be voting Foolishness. He has made little effort in establishing his pro-towness on day one or two. For those he has brought up, myself included, he made no effort in leading a lynch against them. Instead, he plants the seed of doubt, while letting others do the dirty work. He votes for red, which is practically a day one abstain. He is also distracting the town. He claims to have a penalty restriction, yet posts with the tpld tags as soon as the game starts. He links us to a previous game that has absolutely nothing to do with the current game.
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July 29 2011 21:51 GMT
#1787
Cool. Now to the Palmar issue. Am I the only one that thinks that his knowledge of Foolishness's role was a major scum slip?

I'm requesting a vig hit on him.
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July 29 2011 22:12 GMT
#1801
On July 30 2011 07:02 Palmar wrote:
I guessed the role thief is a pass-on role.

Apparently I was correct, we're enough ahead so it doesn't really matter if you want to shoot me, however if you believe I'm town I'd like some medic love, because I'm basically an outed DT.


You guessed? You stated it as a fact.

You say you don't mind getting shot, yet you call for medic protection? What, so you can waste both a vig shot and a medic heal?
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July 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#1835
It's as if the entire game has been silenced.
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#1840
On July 31 2011 05:56 Palmar wrote:
I tracked Chaos13, he visited Sandroba.

I also know Dropbear visited Chaos13


Remind me why an overpowered tracker/watcher role claims day one with no scum results?
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July 30 2011 21:58 GMT
#1868
There is something that doesn't make sense.

I've never seen where a mafia kp can be role blocked, so that means chaos must have used his role to shoot. If that is the case, does chaos's role creator confirm he has a kp role? Also, it seems early for mafia to be down to a single kp, where is the second? Was Amber double stacked or was someone saved?
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#1870
On July 31 2011 06:59 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 06:58 kitaman27 wrote:
There is something that doesn't make sense.

I've never seen where a mafia kp can be role blocked, so that means chaos must have used his role to shoot. If that is the case, does chaos's role creator confirm he has a kp role? Also, it seems early for mafia to be down to a single kp, where is the second? Was Amber double stacked or was someone saved?

hey bro scum lost 3 members in 25man game


Oh right, forgot about the first flip. Has chaos claimed his role yet, I don't recall.
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July 30 2011 22:10 GMT
#1873
On July 31 2011 07:08 sandroba wrote:
Also, I know for a fact that chaos targeted me with something, since he is in my PM circle now.


The sacrificial pm circle? -_-

Well Palmar claims he targeted you with a kp so we need a chaos role claim.
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#1997
First off, deconduo you jerk. Can't say I've ever been framed by a host before :p

Take it for what it's worth, but no I didn't not shoot Amber. I have no kp, nor do I have a kp role. I'll role claim if necessary, but not yet. For those who think I'm SK, do we really think the mafia didn't have a single shot go through last night? For those who think I'm scum, would tackster and Foolishness really try to push for my lynch day one, forcing me to submit to an alignment check? Keep in mind this alignment check would have revealed me as mafia OR SK. If I were either of them, there is no way I would submit to either, when there were like 2-3 votes on me.

Another thing to keep in mind. When we created our roles and penalties, they DID NOT go to the same person. That means the person who created Varp's role DID NOT create his penalty. How on earth would someone randomly create a penalty, guessing its for a dt type role.

sandroba, are you 100% denying that your "cult" with a confirmed kp was not responsible for the "sacrifice"? I'm not sure I buy that.

chaos, where are you? We need a role claim.
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#2004
On July 31 2011 11:10 sandroba wrote:
Yes I completely deny it. If you read my role you'll see I don't have kp yet. Also I got a pm from chaos13 saying that he medic protected me. He also claims to have made my role. I guess he can clarify it and should claim, but he's pretty much confirmed mafia, unless palmar is trading one for one.


On July 31 2011 07:27 sandroba wrote:
You are Sauron's Ring
When someone targets you with a night action, they become a member of your cult, and join a PM circle with you and all other cult members. Once your cult has reached the maximum of 4 members, including yourself, you can choose to roleblock everyone in the cult in exchange for 1 KP.


I see from your role pm that you don't have the power to role block yet, but I see no mention of how you use your kp. In fact, I think you either omitted part of your role. Nowhere does it mention this kp that you can apparently exchange. Deny it as you may, this flavor text screams cult.

On July 28 2011 10:03 Eiii wrote:
Who's going to clean up this mess?

[image loading]


supersoft has been sacrificed for the greater good.


In addition, palmar very well may be willing to do a 1:1 trade. He had knowledge of Foolishness's role and was the lynch target before he claimed this morning. I still want to here what chaos says.
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July 31 2011 02:27 GMT
#2006
On July 31 2011 11:25 chaos13 wrote:
Sandroba's role does not have a day kill. I can confirm this beyond doubt. Yes, I made it sound like a cult. I even made him appear third party to DT checks, but I guess that was removed. However, it's basically just a mason circle that gets 1 kill/night at the cost of roleblocking every member, and only if it is full. Whoever that kill was, it was not Sandroba.


Hmm, I had interpreted it as a role block by giving up your kp, not the other way around. Perhaps, that works. By the way, you said the both me and palmar are scum. Why on earth would I try to point out Palmar's apparent scum slip to get him killed if he was my scum buddy? Also, why would I submit myself to an alignment check day one? I can't be the godfather because foolishness already flipped.
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#2008
On July 31 2011 11:29 sandroba wrote:
Can anyone confirm/deny this claim. Also I need to know from dropbear how his roleblock works. DB should claim too imo. At this point I say we lynch chaos first since his claim is kinda bland and the fluf text is very lacking.
Kita is not 100% scum since I don't know if amber is or isn't considered as inducted to my cycle. I would like kita to roleclaim regardless, because even if you are town you are unlikely to get shot since there's so much suspicion around you.


Might as well I suppose, I crumbed my role earlier in the thread if you wanna check. I am the silencer. I may choose someone at night and the following day they can't post anything but a vote. Basically, I'm a vanilla townie because I haven't used my role, nor do I plan to since it is so anti-town.
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#2010
On July 31 2011 11:31 Varpulis wrote:
Would anybody care to support those claims (creator of role, perhaps)


Heh to be honest, I thought you created it.
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#2012
Oh right. I already claimed right above you.
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#2015
You are the Silencer. You may choose someone at night and your target is not allowed to write anything the following day, apart from votes.
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#2016
Not much fluff text, I'm afraid.
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#2019
On July 31 2011 11:38 sandroba wrote:
Can anyone confirm this? I really find it ulikely that someone made a role that only works for scum. The lack of fluf is very suspicious too =/


I did copy and paste my role pm about 15 seconds after you asked. Do you think I had it pre-written in case you asked me to re-post it? -_-
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July 31 2011 02:56 GMT
#2024
Something that really doesn't add up is the timing of Palmar's role claim. Palmar has arguably the best detective role in the game. Why does he role claim in the middle of the day, the moment someone looks at him the wrong way? If I were in his position, I wouldn't ever consider claiming unless I was scum trying to buy town cred.
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July 31 2011 03:02 GMT
#2032
On July 31 2011 12:00 Varpulis wrote:
you'd like to argue with pms from the host?


Jackal/Sandroba already used that argument to try to get himself confirmed. Let's not post them since it is against the rules.
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#2042
On July 31 2011 12:08 sandroba wrote:
Since there is a sacrificial role some non confirmed role is lying and thus must be mafia.


I'll happily mute you if you want me to confirm mine

On July 31 2011 08:07 sandroba wrote:
We lynch kita tomorrow imo. People could even shoot him at night to confirm he's sk.


I initially missed this. Why on earth would you call for a vig shot to try to confirm a sk. Is this the Salem Witch Trials now? We throw me in a lake and if I drown, I'm innocent? Best case, you waste a town kp and have to lynch him anyways. Worst case, you just killed a townie.

Varp, you haven't really addressed curu's question. Where are your results for all the other deaths?
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July 31 2011 03:21 GMT
#2045
Regardless of Varp's results, we lynch either chaos or Palmar today, as they both cannot be town aligned.

Palmar claims chaos shot sandroba.
chaos claims Palmar is lying.

Anyone not voting for one of the two does not have the town's best interest at heart.
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July 31 2011 03:32 GMT
#2055
chaos, did you mention who you protected on previous nights?
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#2060
On July 31 2011 12:37 sandroba wrote:
Kita, do you agree on targeting me this night?


If town agrees. The only problem is that I would essentially be your voice for the cycle. Are you willing to submit to that?

Who did you protect night one, chaos?
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July 31 2011 04:01 GMT
#2070
I'm not sure if this has been answered yet, but if chaos was role blocked, how would he be able to use a night action on sandroba to get added to his pm circle?
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July 31 2011 14:27 GMT
#2112
Nope, we're either lynch you or chaos. Don't try to start a wagon on sandroba.
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July 31 2011 15:22 GMT
#2121
Has Drazerk or Kurumi fully claimed their roles yet? I know sandroba mentioned his role, but I forget if he said what it does.
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July 31 2011 15:32 GMT
#2127
On August 01 2011 00:31 Kurumi wrote:
I AM NOT A DETECTIVE


Mind posting your role for us?
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July 31 2011 15:43 GMT
#2130
I tried looking through all of kurumi's posts and am still pretty confused what it does. Would you please post your role kurumi, just to clear things up?
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July 31 2011 19:23 GMT
#2167
Kurumi, can you post your entire role? (request #4)
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July 31 2011 22:12 GMT
#2178
We can most certainly lose. There are probably 2-3 scum remaining and a possible slew of third party members. which may or may not include a secret cult alignment. I'd like more discussion of the palmar vs chaos situation, rather than people just placing their votes and then saying we vig the other if we are wrong.

The timing of the Foolishness kill was the weirdest part about heist since it essentially eliminated the town lynch for the day. If we want to discuss something, we could try solving the puzzles for the hallows. Mafia has multiple people working together on them, while we only have individual efforts. I tried looking at them as cryptograms, but wasn't able to make any progress. Any thoughts?

I don't really get why kurumi was having people vote for him day one, but that isn't the first time kurumi has confused me.

As for the chaos vs palmar debate, here are the current votes:

-chaos13 - 7 votes

dropbear
palmar
Drazerk
curu
lanaia
heist
sandroba

-palmar - 3 votes

chaos13
varpulis
bumatlarge

Looking back at his posts, Palmar has been pretty correct on everything he has said this game. He called for a vig hit on both jackal and foolishness, but both of them were in pretty hot water. There is both the Foolishness role guess and the fact that he role claimed so early that has been bothering me though.

chaos has been less clean. He suggested we give jackal the wand to use as a double lynch, although I admit it crossed my mind as well. His day one vote against kurumi was rather weak. If a scum was looking to jump on a easy target without attracting too much attention, then he was a good pick. He does put some effort into an analysis, but it is ultimately incorrect. He does earn points for going against Foolishness. A SK flip wouldn't be out of the question. If that's the case, I'm not sure what to think about Palmar. I'll probably decide to vote after another read through later tonight.
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#2185
On August 01 2011 08:57 sandroba wrote:
Look, this shit is bugging me imensely. If foolishness got his role stolen by someone no in his team, why wouldn't he claim? Not claiming when he knew some townie had his role is very risky. He did claim roleblock. Also why would curu push for nisani/chaos instead of foolishness early on in the day when he knew foolishness was bullshitting about his post restriction?
A more reasonable explanation would be foolishness was role thief all along and was roleblocked and unable to steal someone's role and they siezed the oppotunity to buy some town cred for curu, who was wheel of time all along.


Seems to me you are overthinking things. If curu wasn't the original role theif, than his role creator could have counter-claimed by now, unless all three of them we're scum buddies. You've flipped between Palmar and chaos a bunch of times in the last 24 hours. Mind explaining your thought process?
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August 01 2011 12:55 GMT
#2214
Curu even bread crumbed his role at the beginning of the game with this, which matches the flavor text of the role description. I'm willing to trust that he was the original role thief at his point.

On July 25 2011 15:02 Curu wrote:
judging from my own role, people who made up roles in five minutes are not all that uncommon

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#2215
I'm off camping for a few days so I'll be on the road for the rest of the cycle. I'm not sure if they have Wi-Fi or not, but worse-case, I'll find a McDonalds or something (Or maybe silence myself as an excuse :p)

If the lynch comes up wrong, hold bum accountable to shoot Palmar. If anyone else is trigger happy and decides to shoot me because of the bogus ghost whisperer result, just ask yourself why I would ever take an alignment day one with only a couple votes on myself, relatively early in the cycle.
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#2247
On August 02 2011 06:44 Curu wrote:
Well I think it's more or less confirmed that kita killed Amber according to Varpulis.


Oh really? More or less confirmed? HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT HIS PENALTY INFORMS HIM THAT HIS RESULTS ARE INCORRECT. For all we know, his penalty was a lie. He already admitted his role didn't follow his role description. What makes it so hard to believe that Amber targeted sandroba?

We most likely have 2 scum remaining, an unknown amount of third part SK or assassins, and 1 cult member. That doesn't exactly leave much room for you guys to shoot off one of your few remaining townies.

For those who still want me shot, please address this: Why would I submit to the alignment check? Foolishness was the godfather so I would be outed as scum. If I was a cultist, assassin or serial killer than I would also be outed. I cannot be the mole because it was only the second night. I submitted to the alignment check at 10pm est when we weren't anywhere close to the lynch in order to give the town time to pick a good lynch target. There were only 2-3 votes on me so its not like I had no choice. People are so willing to follow a fake check from varp, yet hasn't addressed this issue, which pretty much clears me in my mind. The only reason you would shoot me would be if you thought I was serial killer. Both tackster and Foolishness attempted to get me lynched day one. Additionally, I voted Foolishness day two. If you thought I was a serial killer, then where in the world did the mafia kp mysteriously disapear to? Additionally, what good does shooting a suspected sk do? They have protective vests so it would only waste a town kp.

Whoever created chaos's role never claimed, which makes it highly likely he was the second cultist. Do we find it likely that a cultist has a kp? That doesn't make sense to me considering they already have a recruiting role. So how did chaos shoot sandroba? A recruitment attempt is certainly possible. He was obviously targetting pro-town players after recruiting SS day one. Finally, I won't claim who I created my role for due to the penalty, but its pretty clear if you can read between the lines.
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August 01 2011 22:26 GMT
#2250
oh lol. That makes me a lot happier. I had assumed he was the secret cult alignment that was hinted at in the OP. Can we get a confirmation since he didn't have the word scum in his flip?

If you still think I'm scum after the alignment check and voting for both chaos and foolishness, then there is no sense arguing with anyone -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 01 2011 22:31 GMT
#2253
I don't suppose you would agree to shoot yourself for us Bum? :p
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 01 2011 22:39 GMT
#2255
If I had an assassin or SK bullet I would totally hook you guys up
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 02 2011 00:12 GMT
#2313
Anyone have thoughts about dropbear? Apparently he thinks I'm evil, which is clearly untrue. [image loading]
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 02 2011 00:15 GMT
#2316
Palmar, what is your exact win condition? If you don't post it, we're not going along with anything. Also, how in the world would you already know the identities of all the mafia and why wouldn't you provide them to town if you wanted to work with us.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 02 2011 00:30 GMT
#2328
^^ lol shoot and lynch. A third party that has the entire scum team list, yet isn't allowed to reveal who they are makes absolutely no sense. You say you can't reveal their identities, yet you can call for day vig's to shoot both of them?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 02 2011 00:31 GMT
#2329
On August 02 2011 09:29 sandroba wrote:
K what about this. We have palmar track kita, bum shoots lanaia/Dropbear rb's lanaia so she can't be the shooter and we lynch palmar the next day regardless of his results. If he doesn't flip mafia we shoot kita if his track was incriminating.
Would you agree to that palmar? Is not like you have a chance to win this either way so help a bro =)


You honestly buy Palmar's story?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 02 2011 00:37 GMT
#2336
On August 02 2011 09:33 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 09:31 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 02 2011 09:29 sandroba wrote:
K what about this. We have palmar track kita, bum shoots lanaia/Dropbear rb's lanaia so she can't be the shooter and we lynch palmar the next day regardless of his results. If he doesn't flip mafia we shoot kita if his track was incriminating.
Would you agree to that palmar? Is not like you have a chance to win this either way so help a bro =)


You honestly buy Palmar's story?

I don't, but we lynch him either way next day and we'll have more info. W/E shooting him is fine too.


I see no reason to let him live longer. It's not like his info is worth anything now that he is confirmed anti-town.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 02 2011 00:40 GMT
#2338
On August 02 2011 09:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 09:37 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 02 2011 09:33 sandroba wrote:
On August 02 2011 09:31 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 02 2011 09:29 sandroba wrote:
K what about this. We have palmar track kita, bum shoots lanaia/Dropbear rb's lanaia so she can't be the shooter and we lynch palmar the next day regardless of his results. If he doesn't flip mafia we shoot kita if his track was incriminating.
Would you agree to that palmar? Is not like you have a chance to win this either way so help a bro =)


You honestly buy Palmar's story?

I don't, but we lynch him either way next day and we'll have more info. W/E shooting him is fine too.


I see no reason to let him live longer. It's not like his info is worth anything now that he is confirmed anti-town.


I'm pro-town bro

I win with town

I just need... souls too.

But town wins, my ultimate goal is to kill the mafia.


Oh rly, I thought you just said you weren't allowed to reveal your win condition a moment ago? So your ultimate goal is to kill the mafia team, which you already know the identities of, but aren't allowed to reveal. But you can kinda attack them. But not really.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 02 2011 21:06 GMT
#2365
##Vote Palmar

Who did you track for kicks and giggles?

Also, I was role blocked. What a jerk

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 02 2011 22:12 GMT
#2424
Since you said you can't identify the scum team, which you apparently know, does that mean we're confirmed town? :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 04 2011 16:42 GMT
#2577
The voting is far too close for my liking. It only takes a combination of a vote swap, a day vig or a vote controlling role and we're stuck with Palmar for another whole cycle. heist or Dropbear, don't suppose you'll switch back to prevent any last minute shenanigans?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 04 2011 22:13 GMT
#2662
lol poor Palmar.

For those who asked, yes I can confirm that I was role blocked last night.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#2693
Could everyone post their night actions (including you Curu)?

It should be noted that we could be dealing with a SK or assassin, rather than scum, so ones scum hunting track record isn't necessarily as valuable. As deconduo indicated earlier, role blocks also block scum and sk kp, so last night's rb targets could prove valuable.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#2695
Do you have unlimited self protections? If that is the case, aren't you practically bulletproof, assuming there is only one kp remaining?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 05 2011 22:27 GMT
#2698
On August 06 2011 07:18 Drazerk wrote:
I sat at home and did nothing.

Bum had been taught the art of kung fu the previous night and could not die.



What was your thought process behind not performing a night action?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 05 2011 22:34 GMT
#2701
Oh right, forgot about the change.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 05 2011 22:45 GMT
#2705
On August 06 2011 07:43 Curu wrote:
There is no SK unless it's kita. KP has been 1 the last few nights, only explanation would be Palmar was last Mafia and kita is SK. But I don't think that's the case..


SK aren't compulsive. They only have two bullets to shoot.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 05 2011 23:44 GMT
#2727
He is also in a weird time zone, so it just could be a case of not reading the thread in the morning yet.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 06 2011 01:56 GMT
#2732
Of course we do, they block kp and extend the game.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 06 2011 14:43 GMT
#2752
-_-

Gl town.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 07 2011 18:37 GMT
#2931
Yay gg.

Sorry to my role creator for never silencing anyone. If it wouldn't have gotten me in trouble, I would have probably used it on whoever annoyed me the most. As you guessed, I created your role Curu. I was kinda freaking out on day two when I realized you had gathered all three hallows thinking that you had stolen Jackal's role. Speaking of the hallows, what were the puzzle solutions and did anyone ever guess them?

As for the game, I'm not sure Jackal's role claim as Harry Potter was the best idea. Sure, Vold is probably going to get lynched early as town, but a 1:1 trade doesn't seem very beneficial since your death was pretty certain after his flip. Distributing all three items to town was kinda a sticky situation, since after jackal's death three townie were somewhat confirmed. Any purpose behind that role restriction Foolishness or were you just trying to troll? :p

The mafia traitor role was pretty unfair. Considering Palmar led to the deaths of 3 of his scum buddies, I can see how it would be pretty frustrating from the mafia perspective. The fact that there was an extra scum kinda made up for it, but there were just too many power roles to make the game very balanced. Maybe a tighter leash on role submission for a future game would help things out.

Thanks for hosting deconduo and Eiii! ^_^
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
August 07 2011 18:56 GMT
#2935
lol I hate you deconduo. Make me a miller and frame me for not one, but two kills :p
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