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On July 25 2011 11:57 kitaman27 wrote: What makes you think mafia has a roleblocker? Seems pretty unlikely to me. Why is it unlikely? Last ptp there were several rbing roles. | ||
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On July 25 2011 12:05 kitaman27 wrote: Are you sure about that? It just seems unlikely enough that we shouldn't based our plans around the assumption. Obviously I am not completely sure but if mafia has a rber it completely rapes the double lynch plan. And considering the roles given last time there is a decent chance they have at least 1 rber. | ||
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How many KP does the mafia have? I don't see it in the op. | ||
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If we assume that jackal is scum, then he likely lied and created the line about voldemort hiding as town right? So with that line and knowing that ON is town surely he must have known after ON died, that he was likely going to be fucked. It seems like a massive risk and an incredibly stupid thing for mafia to do. Jackal in my experience generally seems to be pretty inactive and fly under the radar the first couple days of most games. It seems very unlike him to fake a pm and post it day 1 just to try and get 1 townie with no powers lynched. So unless Jackal made a massive blunder this game, which is unlike his normal playing style. I am inclined to believe he is not mafia. | ||
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On July 25 2011 19:08 Palmar wrote: I find it hard to believe that roles that were almost certainly created or modified by the host, then themed as arch-rivals are going to be on the same side, just read last ptp with batman and the joker. I agree with this. But man it would have to be such an incredibly bad play from Jackal to fake his pm and claim just to try and kill ON if he knew he was town. I think it is more likely that decon is just fucking with us than it is for Jackal to make that play as mafia. | ||
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BC has just finished arguing with half the town for literally 10+ pages straight about whether people should trust SS's alignment checks. What exactly was accomplished during this entire argument? Was any scum hunting done? No. Was anyone's opinion about SS changed? No. Instead the thread is now filled with 10 pages full of a worthless argument. The argument 100% benefited the mafia. I don't think anyone would argue BC is one of the best players to play on TL. So ask yourself which is more likely one of TL's best players decides to be stubborn and have a worthless argument that spams and prevents any scum hunting from being done for 10 pages as town or as mafia? And just to summarize the things BC has done so far this game A) Done 0 actual analysis of anyone the entire game, instead pushes for Jackal to be lynched based only on flavor from his role claim. B) Single handedly derails and spams the thread preventing any scum hunting from being done. C) Pushed hard for our dt, that killed a scum, to not use his checks. We obviously shouldn't blindly follow the checks but there is very little downside to at least having him check people. Even if we don't act on them, it can serve as an amazing breadcrumb. If supersoft dies and flips town we would know all his checks were true. Incredibly anti town to not at the very least have SS use his checks. ##vote BloodyC0bbler As for who SS should check, BC should 100% not be checked. If he is mafia he is 99% the GF. So the next best candidate for a check is kita. | ||
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On July 26 2011 11:02 kitaman27 wrote: I know you guys apparently hate when I ask questions, but I had assume the godfather was assigned by deconduo. Is this true? If so, BC is just as likely to be the gf as everyone else. Is there a reason you don't want him checked? I don't hate when you ask questions. You can ask me whatever you want. I just assumed mafia picked their GF since isn't that what happens in the vast majority of mafia games? Decon did you assign the GF or did the mafia get to pick their own? If decon randomly assigned the GF to the scum team then I am all for him being checked. | ||
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On July 26 2011 11:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I love when morons fall into place. Of the 5 people currently voting for me vigi's feel free to clear the numbers out. There will be at least 2 anti town there already. Thank you dumb tards for playing the game I call "mafia are bad". BC would you say your 10 page argument was good for the town in anyway? | ||
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It appears to me that the last 3 pages where people began actually voting and giving their reasons has given us 50x the information that your 8 hour argument did. | ||
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The discussion we are having now is productive. Arguing actual cases against people makes them take sides, generates connections and forces people to come up with actual reasoning and analysis behind their cases. Anyone regardless of alignment can argue game mechanics. I read all 10 pages of the discussion and I took very little of value away from it. On July 26 2011 12:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I am actually throwing a FoS at you for using it. It is actually a common mistake for people who have extra information to infer it in a manner such as you did. As it is more natural to type "our dt" if you know his alignment. It is also a common mistake for people who don't know alignments but are simply biased about what alignment they think the person is to make. But if you want to make a case against me based on me using the word "our" instead of "the" instead of actually analyzing whether I am mafia from my motivations and posts go ahead. | ||
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On July 26 2011 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Did you not notice how i mentioned earlier I was willing to swap to someone I felt better about but hadn't yet? No that would require you reading my posts. However, the game is about catching scum, not about someone giving their opinion on who feels more town than another player, or who feels slightly scummier than x. Without more information its like randomly drawing a bad choice from a selection of meh choices. How many people in this game are even talking? How many are even weighing in on the conversation at hand, who has outright dodged comments directed at them? I am fairly transparent where it matters. The game is not lets find townies, its lets find red. As of now I don't have any strong enough reads to properly push a lynch target. This is an issue that has been stated multiple times by multiple people. You only list off people you are confident enough at the time to lynch, not randomly spout names. I am not asking you to give me your town reads or slight scum reads. I asked how anyone was supposed to know you were town. When you spend all of your time A) defending yourself and B) talking game mechanics it seems like you are playing a very self oriented game. You have taken a stand on no one. And apparently there isn't a single person in the game you feel is suspicious enough to warrant an analysis. Yet despite these things you claimed it was very obvious that you were town. I could have placed my vote on you and then disappeared. I am discussing with you because I am gathering information to hopefully make the best decision possible. Right now I don't see anything that makes me want to put my vote onto someone else. I will agree it is shady that no one else is commenting though. Amber/kita/etc surely someone else out there must have an opinion. | ||
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