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On July 31 2011 12:21 Curu wrote:
Out of the 3 roleclaims I think most likely to be fake (Palmar, chaos, Varpulis) and apparently have dead/MIA role creators, Palmar's is the most easily confirmable.
Varpulis's is the most convenient with its "oh I might actually show as any alignment so if I show red I'm not really lolz."
However with chaos/Palmar we have one of them straight up lying. Unless Palmar is for some reason willing to trade 1 for 1, I'm inclined to go with him for now.
I could also show any role.
Explain how i'm lying if a check returns red <any role other than mine>
On July 28 2011 06:32 Varpulis wrote:k cool. Batman, are you in this game too?
again, from day two. response to the only whisper i got that day, which referenced a "caped crusader"
Go ahead and check me. I welcome it. I feel that I've proven my role enough that another role could not explain my actions sufficiently.
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I'd be willing to vote palmar. does somebody have the kp to kill chaos if palmar is town?
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On July 31 2011 12:39 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 12:37 sandroba wrote:
Kita, do you agree on targeting me this night? If town agrees. The only problem is that I would essentially be your voice for the cycle. Are you willing to submit to that? Who did you protect night one, chaos?
It's alright with me. i suggest somebody else join the circle tonight, so sand has access to his abilities. would anybody care to volunteer?
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On July 31 2011 12:53 sandroba wrote:
The only problem with this is only one scum kill at night, since noone else got hit.
What about the possibility that scum only has one mafia kp remaining, and they either don't have kp or it's on recharge?
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ebwop: they either don't have role based kp or it's on recharge/they've run out.
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On July 31 2011 13:01 bumatlarge wrote:I'm so buff dude. I was considering just keeping quiet and shooting every night and screwing the consequences, but then that might make us lose if im off more then im right...  the woes of a not-so-compulsive vigilante
hardcore, considering the 50% chance to shoot yourself on the third continuous night of shooting.
glad you decided against it. You'd be willing to shoot chaos13 if palmar flips town?
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sandroba, he is in your circle, no?
That means that either: roleblocked people visit without doing anything, or DropBear is scum.
Do roleblocked people still count as having visited the person they targeted
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On July 31 2011 13:28 Curu wrote:
And no one can claim to making the powers for Palmar, DropBear, kitaman, chaos, or Varpulis?
dead men tell no tales, unfortunately.
Lanaia, claim the entire role you made please.
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On July 31 2011 14:13 heist wrote:
Sorry I've been busy somewhat. I find it hilarious that not one night DT check has come through while so many people have died from day vigs.
With so many claims scattered throughout I found it helpful to compile. This is the claim list for the night (if i can get curu and drazerk that would be great):
sandroba- no action; visited only by chaos
palmar - watched/tracked chaos. (chaos tried to kill sandroba. DB roleblock chaos)
DB- roleblock chaos
chaos - protect sandroba
bumatlarge- roleblock lanaia
lanaia - no action; roleblocked
varpulis - no action (*prophecy)
kurumi - no action
heist - no action
kita- no action
drazerk-
curu -
*Prophecy: (one of them is true)
1. kitaman killed amber (kita says is lie)
2. sandroba induct amber (sandroba says is lie)
3. amber visited chaos (Palmar says is lie)
(4. vapulis is lying about everything)
ACCOUNTABILITY
Palmar is lying or Chaos is lying.
Kita is lying or Palmar is lying (I trust sandroba) unless varpulis is lying.
i like the hidden option 4. :/
I don't think it's convenience that both accountability problems are solved if palmar is lying.
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I'd like to hear an explanation for that as well. The role never mentions KP until it wants you to exchange it for roleblocks. Makes very little sense from two perspectives:
1. The thought process of making the role. If it's a kp role, kp is a main part of the role. You don't just tack on kp as an afterthought
2. how such a vague and poorly explained role passed muster and wasn't edited by the hosts.
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breaking news from deconduo: The reason that i only got 1 whisper day 2 was because, and i quote "the other ghosts decided to be silent."
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On August 01 2011 02:06 Pandain wrote:
I agree
A wild Pandain appears!
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On August 01 2011 03:05 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 02:03 Kurumi wrote:On August 01 2011 01:43 Curu wrote:
chaos and Lanaia roleblocked last night, must be at least 1 missing KP from that pair. Mafia/SK can't suddenly have dropped to 1 KP, especially considering none of their currently dead roles actually had extra KP. there is no sk there is no more kp scum have 1 kp there are 2 scum start thinking god damnit If you think this why is your vote on chaos? He was roleblocked last night but a KP still went through. If your setup guess is correct and Varpulis isn't BSing then kitaman must be the last Mafia.
There's a third possibility though: Amber visited sandroba but didn't get inducted into the pm circle because he died the same night, but somehow still counted as having joined the cult. If roleblocks allow people to still visit, I don't doubt that that's possible.
kita proves his role by silencing sandroba, but i can say nothing about his alignment. Him being mafia wouldn't make very much sense to me, because all the dead scum were very insistent on getting him lynched/checked.
There's a contradiction between Palmar and chaos13's reports of last night's actions, so one of them must be mafia. If by some wild circumstance neither of them is red/we have another mafia left, kitaman would be a valid target.
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On August 01 2011 10:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 10:07 kitaman27 wrote:On August 01 2011 08:57 sandroba wrote:
Look, this shit is bugging me imensely. If foolishness got his role stolen by someone no in his team, why wouldn't he claim? Not claiming when he knew some townie had his role is very risky. He did claim roleblock. Also why would curu push for nisani/chaos instead of foolishness early on in the day when he knew foolishness was bullshitting about his post restriction?
A more reasonable explanation would be foolishness was role thief all along and was roleblocked and unable to steal someone's role and they siezed the oppotunity to buy some town cred for curu, who was wheel of time all along. Seems to me you are overthinking things. If curu wasn't the original role theif, than his role creator could have counter-claimed by now, unless all three of them we're scum buddies. You've flipped between Palmar and chaos a bunch of times in the last 24 hours. Mind explaining your thought process? 1) the role creator might be dead 2) They very easily could all be scum 3) Palmar + chaos are both scum it's picking which one you want dead in my opinion I see no issue with people switching between them
umm if they're both scum then their stories would match up. 1 of them is scum, not both.
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On August 01 2011 11:56 sandroba wrote:
Yes, Eiii did send out the aligment pms, but if you copy/pasted it from your pm inbox, "Original Message From Eiii:" would not appear.
yes it would. let me give an example. This is a screenshot of a totally non-game related pm conversation: (from a conversation with iGrok about Paranoid mafia, which i cohosted)![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZB9Y2.jpg)
Curu isn't bullshitting about that, at least.
sandroba, stop overthinking things. Curu getting Foolishness killed was one of the most pro-town actions thus far, imo.
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Well, we've killed a mafia but the game is still going. Time to shoot kita.
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Alright, If I share my info again i stop hearing voices. Has anybody not activated their penalty?
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hi palmar. I voted for you yesterday, didn't i?
Deja vu, huh?
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On August 04 2011 00:00 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 23:50 Kurumi wrote:On August 03 2011 23:43 Curu wrote:
So where'd his other KP go last night then?
He purposely didn't shoot Palmar so we would lynch him? That was just going to get bum killed as soon as Palmar flips anything not scum then. Only way it makes sense is if they were both scum and bum was trying to bus Palmar, but then you should have no problem with lynching Palmar anyways. lanaia protected sandroba bum doublestacked sandroba because he was a mason Lanaia's protect was for this night, not the previous night. So no, sandroba wasn't protected.
A bit of a screw up in writing the role but correct. Lanaia's medic ability goes into effect the second night after she starts it.
Lanaia, use your kp today.
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