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chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 06 2011 02:42 GMT
#8
On July 06 2011 11:30 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 11:17 OriginalName wrote:
...BUT I WANNA PLAY IN ARKHAM QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ GOD I LOVED THE BM IN INSANE 2! WHYYYYYY.

Edit: Fuck it /in

This is a mini game. You can play a mini game and a real game at the same time if you want (I think)


So does the following apply or not? I'm debating joining this, as it looks really interesting, but I'm also in World at War

Signups:

Signups will remain open until enough people sign up that are not in any other games.


chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 06 2011 02:57 GMT
#10
If that's the case then

/in
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#20
So if I wanted to get Player A killed, I would approach Player B (let's say I know he is able to use his RPG) and we would work out a contract. We would then PM you with something like the following:

chaos13
Provide Player B with 200,000 Kronos upon completion of contract
Player B
Kill Player A by Day 3

And if I didn't have the funds or Player B failed to kill Player A, we would be punished? And these contracts can extend to pretty much anything, votes, items, kills....?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 12 2011 04:19 GMT
#74
On July 12 2011 12:30 OriginalName wrote:
Good day gentlemen, shall we get down to business -lights expensive cigar-


Eager to get going already, eh? You got something you want to sell?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 12 2011 13:42 GMT
#101
On July 12 2011 19:25 Radfield wrote:
Lets get down to brass tax: Who's selling me a bulletproof vest?

I may be in the market to buy up some votes for Day 1, PM me if interested.


But most importantly:
Who wants to sell me an RPG

It's vitally important that I shoot someone with an RPG this game in order to maximize fun


So you're looking to buy votes on Day 1, the time in the game that it is least likely we will lynch scum. You also want an RPG, which provides you with additional means of killing someone, which also does not guarantee you will kill scum. Noted, you're going down on my suspect list.

On July 12 2011 22:16 Kurumi wrote:
Gentlemen


Lets revise couple of things, shall we?

THE SETUP

So, we know a couple of things:
There are 8 Townies(with various equipment or even roles)
There are 3 Mafia Members(with various equipment or even roles)
There is 1 Serial Killer
Grand total of 12 players
Anyway, we've got 4 anti-town people among us. That puts us in a 8 v 4 situation. Believe me or not, this might get tricky. Since we've got 2KP per night (assuming SK is not a sissy girl...), on Day 2 there will be only 9 players. Assuming worst case scenario, we'll be put in a 5 Townies vs 3 Mafia and 1 Serial Killer situation. Another mislynch and without some hero vigilante bullets and medic heals we're screwed at Night 2. That's why we MUST scum-hunt as hard as we can.


Contributing without contributing. You did an awesome job of copy/pasting some stuff from the OP. You're going on my list with Radfield, and if you want to get off of it you had better start making posts of greater quality.



As an advertisement to business, I have defensive weapons to sell. If you are interested, PM me. Radfield and Kurumi are excluded from this because I am highly suspicious of them. If you are on my suspect list, I will not sell to you.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 12 2011 14:00 GMT
#104
On July 12 2011 22:46 Kurumi wrote:
THE PLAN

Is easy.
So here it goes:
#1 We announce our contracts. The more information You give us, the bigger benefit for us.
#2 We are not giving away our equipment before we've got strong townie reads with someone.
#3 As fast we get confirmed Townie, we initiate a Trust contract with him so our items won't go into the Black Hole
^We should give this guy vests and medic prots as fast as possible too, we don't want our Bank to die -_-
#4 We don't let ourselves get bossed around with contracts. Think before signing one.

Glued post, enjoy, sorry for spamming the thread.


I'll just point out the things I don't like about your plan.

#1: It also gives mafia more information. This may be a good idea, but there are some contracts that you do not want to make public. Use your discretion, and talk it over with the person involved in the contract. Make sure you both agree on whether or not to make it public before sending it to LSB.

#2: Hmm, no. I think it is in our best interests to distribute our equipment and work together. Holding back equipment means that if you get killed tonight, all of it is gone. I see no reason to put off contracts. It will benefit mafia more than it benefits us.

#3: Agreed. However, if that townie dies we end up with a big loss. Something needs to be put in place to help avoid this. Vests and protects are a good start.

#4: Of course. Make sure you think it through
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 13 2011 02:12 GMT
#228
Sorry for my relative lack of activity guys, I've been busy with company all day. I'll be able to post more tomorrow.

First off:
heist, start thinking for yourself. To begin with, Kurumi makes a brief post about how syllo's posting isn't like his town play. With no evidence of how it compares or of how it is scummy, you hop along and agree with it
On July 13 2011 05:10 heist wrote:
Care to explain syllogism?


Now you're doing the same with nisani. Form your own opinions and explain them, or I will be forced to conclude that you are scum.

On July 13 2011 07:29 Radfield wrote:
Nisani, how is chaos13 playing protown? He's only made two posts....



I also have to support this. Either you're (correctly) getting a town read on me because you are genuinely analyzing my posts, or you are mafia attempting to gain town cred later on. I have to admit that two posts isn't anything to go on, whether you gain a town or a scum read. Step up your game as well.

Chezinu, why should I join your bank group?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 13 2011 15:26 GMT
#251
Kurumi, that is an excellent analysis. I agree with you on everything but one point. I think he is SK, not mafia. I played a game as SK once, and whenever I picked up on something I felt was a blue slip, or there was a player I was worried about, I tried to subtly hint to mafia to shoot him.

On July 13 2011 00:36 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
As an advertisement to business, I have defensive weapons to sell. If you are interested, PM me.


This seems like a risky thing to be posting in public. Surely it makes far more sense for you to be PMing players you have pro-town reads on rather than letting everyone know.


Notice how he thinks this is something risky to post. So then...why bring attention to it? Why bring attention to something you think I shouldn't have said in the first place? His first post also points to being an SK.
He asks for a bulletproof vest - SK wanting protection from mafia hits? Yes.
He asks for votes - SK wanting swing-vote ability, to control the lynch? Yes. He can even use this to pursue a strong mafia suspect and gain major town cred.
He asks for RPG's - SK wanting to increase their killing ability? Yes. He's third party, he's not worried about hitting someone on his own team. If he kills mafia, he's eliminated a threat to himself, if he kills town, hopefully he got a dangerous blue role. The more kills, the faster he's won the game.

Radfield is scum.

##Vote: Radfield
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 13 2011 21:34 GMT
#264
syllo, I really do think Radfield is anti-town. Whether that's mafia or SK it makes no difference; both of them want to kill us. That's why I'm voting for him. I do not believe he is a town-aligned player.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 00:09 GMT
#291
Jackal is an interesting candidate. He hasn't given me a strong read either way, and he has a tendency to be somewhat absent and unopinionated on Day 1. I wouldn't want to lynch him today based only on the evidence you put forth. What I see in your analysis is enough cause to be watching him closely, but not near enough to be comfortable lynching him over Radfield.

And Chezinu, bandwagoning is bad. Don't do it.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 00:24 GMT
#295
On July 14 2011 09:12 Radfield wrote:


Also, His comments on the SK stuff are totally off:

His post:
Show nested quote +
I had not even considered the SK angle but that fits better into his reasons for posting as he has than him being scum does.


His PM to me:
Show nested quote +
I found Kurmi's part about the SK buying votes to be curious.


I had to go check Kurumi's post for this. All kurumi said about that was that he was fishing for the SK by offering to buy votes, and that the SK would likely be the first person to sell their vote.

When he says he hadn't considered the SK angle, that means he hadn't considered the possibility of Radfield being the SK.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 00:50 GMT
#297
I don't think you have to worry too much, as it looks like nisani has a lot more votes than you do with just over an hour left to vote.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 03:01 GMT
#320
Well I can't say I was really expecting him to flip mafia
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 03:16 GMT
#321
On July 14 2011 08:15 Chezinu wrote:





Bank Security System Malfunctions:

There seem to be an error in the Chezinu Bank security system. A threat detector mistakenly went off on Nisani201 earlier during the day. The President of Chezinu Bank, apologizes for the glitch and has made adjustment to the security system. Nisani201 has also been offer compensation for the disaster.





Would you be able to elaborate on this some more? Is there some sort of system that lets you know if a scum joins the Chez bank, or was it simply your personal opinion? And why did that change?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:04 GMT
#339
I'm not scum you guys -.-

chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:05 GMT
#340
On July 14 2011 18:24 syllogism wrote:
That's interesting because Chaos13 told me that

"They don't differentiate between benign or malicious visits. If someone visits you, it kills them."

No mention of placing them between two specific players or anything


And if you had continued to make inquiries, I would have filled you out on all the details. Do you expect me to tell you every nuance of what I can sell if you show no real interest in purchasing them?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:27 GMT
#344
On July 15 2011 00:22 syllogism wrote:
But hey Chaos13, to give you the benefit of the doubt, feel free to list people who you have

"have been recommending that one of the two targets be a strong suspect."

Oh, and have you sold any yet and if so, to whom


Radfield. In conversation with GM in PM land (or perhaps someone else, or both, I can't quite recall), we came to the conclusion that because there was such an obvious split lynch on Nisani/Radfield, that one of them had to be mafia. Since Nisani flipped mafia, that almost entirely clears Radfield of being mafia, but it doesn't eliminate the possibility of him being SK. Apparently in this game we have to kill both SK and mafia to win, meaning lynching SK is just as good or better than lynching mafia. I've since changed my opinion on Rad somewhat. Keep an eye on him. Don't take him out tomorrow without really good reason. However, if he goes into lurker mode over the next few days he is scum.

Palmar, syllogism, and sandroba. These guys are the three main ones attacking me right now, and it is all based on discussion in PM's. I think one out of the three of them is scum, but I really can't say for sure which one it is.

Jackal58 and GMarshal. These two are both really good players, and they're both giving me a really bad feeling that I can't quite place the origin of. I almost always have a scum read on Jackal early on, so there may not be too much into this, but I almost always find GM to be the towniest guy in the game when he plays as town. If Jackal doesn't start contributing more and improving his scumhunting, I would consider him a viable lynch target. GM, you just need to keep a close eye on.

OriginalName and heist. Flying way under the radar. At the moment I really can't think of anything that stands out about either of them. Watch their vote patterns, watch how they interact with other players. Since their posting doesn't give much away, you need to connect them to other people who have confirmed alignments.

Chezinu. He's basically unreadable. However, with what went on with Nisani earlier, I think it is quite likely that he is town.

Remember, we only have a 12 player game. This means that vote patterns are going to be one of your strongest tool for connecting players. I encourage each and every one of you to keep a file on your computer with the final vote tallies for each day, and highlight players with their alignment color when they flip. For example, in a brief glance at this

On July 14 2011 10:34 LSB wrote:
Radfield
Kurumi
chaos13
Jackal58
Nisani201

OriginalName
Palmar

Nisani201
heist
syllogism
Sandroba
Radfield
OriginalName

Heist
GMarshal

Jackal58
Chezinu


we can see that Palmar, GM, and Chezinu all voted for someone who was not one of the two main candidates. This means that they do not have to be held accountable for being on a wrong lynch, while also not throwing votes onto Nisani. On Radfield we have four players. I am certain that Kurumi is town, and I know that I am, so that leaves Jackal as the only one whose alignment is in question. Shortly after this he switched his vote to Nisani, but it wasn't the deciding vote. Jackal's likelihood of being mafia just went up.


You guys want a roleclaim, so here it is.

Alignment: Town (Demolitions Expert)
Ability: You can make landmines at the cost of 350,000 kronos each
Inventory: 1 Land mine- You can set this up at night between two people. If either of the people try to target the other, instead they will be blown up.



I have created a testament as well. Everything in my possession will be going to a player I have a strong town read on. I was hoping this game would turn out better, but hopefully this post will be of some use when I flip Town.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:32 GMT
#346
That's something I won't share publicly. I'll PM it to a certain someone, or perhaps two people.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:35 GMT
#349
On July 15 2011 02:33 syllogism wrote:
So have you sold any


On July 15 2011 02:32 chaos13 wrote:
That's something I won't share publicly. I'll PM it to a certain someone, or perhaps two people.

chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:40 GMT
#352
On July 15 2011 02:36 syllogism wrote:
Did you make the testament before day ended


Yes. At 8:59 to be exact.

Thanks Kurumi, nice to have someone with me here. Just out of curiosity, which one of you is killing me tonight? Or will I be the target of a wasted lynch tomorrow?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:44 GMT
#354
On July 15 2011 02:42 syllogism wrote:
Well then I know for a fact you didn't sell anything or are lying about the testament. Either way, even disregarding that you are 100% scum


There are three things wrong with this statement.
1. I sold something
2. I am not lying about the testament
3. I am not scum

Now which one of you three (Palmar, sandroba, you) is killing me tonight?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:54 GMT
#356
Fine. When I die and flip town, you need to claim it and the method of killing. If you do not, I fully expect town to systematically kill each of you three to find the scum inside your pretty little circle. It would be so easy for scum to kill me with encouragement from townies and not be questioned about it.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 18:02 GMT
#358
Why would I be unable to make both a testament and contract?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 18:22 GMT
#360
Oh shut up. How the hell was I supposed to know it was part of a role? That was a genuine question, since I made both a contract and a testament and I have no reason to think of why I could not do so.

If you're town I encourage you to PM someone and explain why, because if you're the only one who knows, then mafia can shoot you tonight and syllo will be safe, cause I'm not lying.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 18:42 GMT
#365
*whistles*

What's up guys? Guess what? I'm not gonna be answering any more of your stupid questions unless they'll actually end up being useful. Are you inquiring about my town reads? Why not ask about my scum reads instead? I'll be happy to discuss those with you guys.

Just your friendly neighborhood town demolitions expert getting tired of being called scum on weak evidence.

A question I really feel needs to be addressed is how syllogism and Palmar think they are confirmed town and everybody should roleclaim to them. But I won't inquire about that, because I'm being killed tonight. I'll just plant some seeds so when I flip town the rest of you can get on that stuff.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 18:47 GMT
#367
1,345,00 Kronos

The person I named in my testament will be getting that amount in full. I have no items in my inventory to give to them.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 18:47 GMT
#368
EBWOP
1,345,000 Kronos - missed a zero
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#378
On July 15 2011 03:53 Palmar wrote:
Cause by my calculations, and judging by the PM you sent me, you sold your landmine for 355,000 kronos, and of course you had to pay 10.000 to LSB bank.

That makes 1,345,000 kronos.

But why aren't there additional 20,000 kronos missing from paying for your testament?


Because I'm assuming that is calculated at the end of the cycle.

I may as well just stop posting now. You guys are gonna kill me no matter what I say, so I'll just leave you to it. I'll be sure to drop by at the day post for a resounding "I told you so!" though.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#380
I already made a giant post of my opinions on players, and that was pretty much ignored except for ON to criticize it. Really, nothing I say will make any difference at this point. I've got the entire player roster except for you tunneling on me
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#382
It depends on what this deal with mine and syllogism's statements contradicting is. If my flipping town proves syllo lied, then syllogism should be lynched. If that doesn't turn out to be the case, I would suggest heist or OriginalName.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 22:21 GMT
#390
The contract with Jackal went through before that. I sent the message to LSB at 1:49 on July 14th.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 23:32 GMT
#393
There's a very easy way to prove if Chez is a bank. Join, and try making a contract in real time. If he's lying, it won't work. If he's truthful, it will work.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 15 2011 02:14 GMT
#402
Well good game everyone. Didn't mean to come across as so scummy, but what can ya do?
Good luck town
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