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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 11 2011 15:20 GMT
#34
I have a mood for a mini game, it might be good for practise(Yup, I want to improve!) for upcoming Asylum
/in
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 11 2011 16:01 GMT
#38
On July 12 2011 00:59 Palmar wrote:
lol, kurumi is in, that means I can tunnel someone on day 1.

Let's do this!

hahaha
##brofist Palmar
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 16:43:45
July 11 2011 16:43 GMT
#46
LSB, Nisani said he wants to play
On July 08 2011 12:42 Nisani201 wrote:
Doesn't look like Asylum is going to start soon, so I'll just /in instead of being a replacement.

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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 11 2011 16:44 GMT
#48
On July 12 2011 01:43 syllogism wrote:
I can sit out if Nisani signed up earlier

Yeah I can give my slot to Nisani too.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 13:16 GMT
#93
Gentlemen

[image loading]

Lets revise couple of things, shall we?

THE SETUP

So, we know a couple of things:
There are 8 Townies(with various equipment or even roles)
There are 3 Mafia Members(with various equipment or even roles)
There is 1 Serial Killer
Grand total of 12 players
Anyway, we've got 4 anti-town people among us. That puts us in a 8 v 4 situation. Believe me or not, this might get tricky. Since we've got 2KP per night (assuming SK is not a sissy girl...), on Day 2 there will be only 9 players. Assuming worst case scenario, we'll be put in a 5 Townies vs 3 Mafia and 1 Serial Killer situation. Another mislynch and without some hero vigilante bullets and medic heals we're screwed at Night 2. That's why we MUST scum-hunt as hard as we can.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 13:19 GMT
#95
Since I hit post instead of "Preview" I must double-post. Well, I think announcing contracts in-thread might prove useful to us. Even basic information, "who and who" is something we can use. I suggest making Trust Contracts to confirmed people. After Your death, You will still be able to help us win the game!
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 13:22 GMT
#97
Also, I believe we've got plenty of blue roles OR equipment. I would like You not to trade it before we get someone confirmed or at least in "Strong-Townie read" box.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 13:35 GMT
#98
THE PLAN

Is easy.
So here it goes:
#1 We announce our contracts. The more information You give us, the bigger benefit for us.
#2 We are not giving away our equipment before we've got strong townie reads with someone.
#3 As fast we get confirmed Townie, we initiate a Trust contract with him so our items won't go into the Black Hole
^We should give this guy vests and medic prots as fast as possible too, we don't want our Bank to die -_-
#4 We don't let ourselves get bossed around with contracts. Think before signing one.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 13:39 GMT
#99
On July 12 2011 22:18 Palmar wrote:
Kurumi is probably scum cause he isn't trolling.

You're cute <3
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 13:44 GMT
#102
^I posted under my post that I clicked Post instead of preview x_x I will glue my posts up
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 13:46 GMT
#103
Gentlemen

[image loading]

Lets revise couple of things, shall we?

THE SETUP

So, we know a couple of things:
There are 8 Townies(with various equipment or even roles)
There are 3 Mafia Members(with various equipment or even roles)
There is 1 Serial Killer
Grand total of 12 players
Anyway, we've got 4 anti-town people among us. That puts us in a 8 v 4 situation. Believe me or not, this might get tricky. Since we've got 2KP per night (assuming SK is not a sissy girl...), on Day 2 there will be only 9 players. Assuming worst case scenario, we'll be put in a 5 Townies vs 3 Mafia and 1 Serial Killer situation. Another mislynch and without some hero vigilante bullets and medic heals we're screwed at Night 2. That's why we MUST scum-hunt as hard as we can.

Since I hit post instead of "Preview" I must double-post. Well, I think announcing contracts in-thread might prove useful to us. Even basic information, "who and who" is something we can use. I suggest making Trust Contracts to confirmed people. After Your death, You will still be able to help us win the game!

Also, I believe we've got plenty of blue roles OR equipment. I would like You not to trade it before we get someone confirmed or at least in "Strong-Townie read" box.

THE PLAN

Is easy.
So here it goes:
#1 We announce our contracts. The more information You give us, the bigger benefit for us.
#2 We are not giving away our equipment before we've got strong townie reads with someone.
#3 As fast we get confirmed Townie, we initiate a Trust contract with him so our items won't go into the Black Hole
^We should give this guy vests and medic prots as fast as possible too, we don't want our Bank to die -_-
#4 We don't let ourselves get bossed around with contracts. Think before signing one.

Glued post, enjoy, sorry for spamming the thread.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 14:09 GMT
#105
@chaos13
#1: Well, maybe we should delay announcement by one Day then? The Mafia won't be able to snipe people off immediately based on info given on real-time.

#2: I am just scared that our equipment can land in bad hands, that's all.

#3: Yup, that's why we protect our bank as hard as possible.

Basically my entire plan is based on using brain and stuff, a good Town read on someone? Trade away! Scum read? You better not trade Your RPG -_- I understand that some contracts might be a part of a plan between two people - just make sure that it won't screw us over.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 16:02 GMT
#119
Radfield, why the hell You wanted to set up a PM trap when You said You're weak when it comes to PMs? ._.'
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 16:08 GMT
#120
Also Radfield.. On the page 5 You said You'll announce who sold You the BP vest, but on this page You say we shouldn't announce contracts at all. It's a contradiction.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 16:50 GMT
#130
Guys, are we going for inactive lynch or scummiest person lynch Day 1?
Also Radfield smells worse and worse for me..
PM trap without good enough skills (thanks Palmar)
Role fishing (thanks Jackal58)
Contradiction about BP (possible trap for future?)
Wanted to buy:
BP
Votes (said it was a trap)
RPG
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 19:39 GMT
#153
On July 13 2011 04:02 heist wrote:
In a game this small I think we have to lynch someone suspicious, not necessarily rad. Lynching a lurker will give us very little information to work on and the lurker still has a good chance of flipping town.

Also Kurumi lemme guess your equipment:

1. standard issue butterfly knife
2. electro sapper

Am I close? What's up with the picture?

The picture itself was just to make You say "Gentlemen" in Spy's voice, nothing else.
Also I love how people stumble by, say I am die hard trying to contribute, but I don't and just leave it here.
I like the ON-Radfield link. Sandroba is die hard on lynching me or Nisani without much evidence - he just ties us and calls us scummy, prefers lurker lynch instead of Radfield lynch, soft-defends Radfield.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 19:40 GMT
#155
EDWOP:
By "I like the ON-Radfield link" I meant that we gather more and more information in case of Radfield lynch.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 19:46 GMT
#157
Wait, You called Radfield lynch bad because he is a good player and it is highly likely that he will die N1 anyway? What's that bullshit? He might be a good player but it is not going to scare me, I think his behaviour was suspicious.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 19:57 GMT
#162
Ok ON, You gave me a "suspect" but made nothing about Yourself, I don't understand that. If someone's suspicious in Your eyes, why won't You announce it with something to back it up? While I agree sandroba's looking suspicious, that does not allow You just say "X is suspicious" and leave it here. Sandroba talks about me not contributing while not contributing, pretty obvious why it makes him suspicious and saying Nisani is supporting me is bullshit, he just said that my little analysis how screwed we can be Day 2 is a shortcut why lurker lynch is bad.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 19:58 GMT
#164
On July 13 2011 04:55 Radfield wrote:
I honestly don't understand how you guys think people are super-scummy after the game is less than 24 hours old.....

I just pointed out that things You've done so far don't add up as Town in my eyes, that's all.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 20:05 GMT
#168
On July 13 2011 05:00 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:
On July 13 2011 04:47 Radfield wrote:
Why did you post this? I made it clear I was role fishing, no bones about it.

To ensure that everybody saw it and was aware of it. Most people I've ever seen fishing for roles were scum.


Fair enough, but I made it awfully clear what I was doing.

Show nested quote +
It would peg them either as scum or as someone with a cash ability.

+
Show nested quote +
I find it likely that there are certain pro-town abilities(investigations, medics, etc) that require money to activate.


Trying to learn what players roles are is all mafia is. Being able to peg someone as a definite red/blue is extremely handy.

From scum standpoint of view, fishing like that can reveal only blues. Why the hell as Town would You fish for blues anyway? To out them and make them die? To get their equipment? All sound scummy to me, but You know... I am new to this game, still.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 20:08 GMT
#171
On July 13 2011 05:06 syllogism wrote:
It's extremely useful to get a blue/town read on someone in this format, much more so than a traditional game

Just pointing out:
That's not how town syllogism posts.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 20:11 GMT
#175
I dislike meta, but now it came handy. Basically, syllogism was asking questions and making some fluff posts entire game. He is not dedicated like in WaW2 (pretty stupid to point this game), he was getting killed N2 by Mafia, but shit hit the fan
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 20:15 GMT
#178
On July 13 2011 05:14 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 05:11 Kurumi wrote:
I dislike meta, but now it came handy.


...Except it really shows nothing...?

Funny how Ace was telling me that everytime I brought it up in our scumchat during PYPI.. Based on myself I know I behave differently based on alignment - easy as that.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 20:28 GMT
#183
On July 13 2011 05:26 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 05:15 Kurumi wrote:
On July 13 2011 05:14 OriginalName wrote:
On July 13 2011 05:11 Kurumi wrote:
I dislike meta, but now it came handy.


...Except it really shows nothing...?

Funny how Ace was telling me that everytime I brought it up in our scumchat during PYPI.. Based on myself I know I behave differently based on alignment - easy as that.

I like it when you're the SK and you just tell everybody. Are you the SK Kurumi?

I can assure You I am a Townie, Jackal58
Radfield, since You're done apologizing and finding excuses, care to share some opinions on players?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 12 2011 22:09 GMT
#197
I will push Radfield lynch tomorrow Nisani, don't worry.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 13 2011 08:59 GMT
#243
Radfield's Fall

>insert a statute falling image here<


I would leave Radfield alone. I seriously would if I saw anything redeeming him. There are a couple of things missing in the picture with Radfield's play in this game.
#1: No suspects.
Radfield suspects... noone.
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 13 2011 07:29 Radfield wrote:
I don't see the case on OriginalName. His posting looks legit for the moment.

Sandroba looks fine for now as well, though I'll admit I'm a bit biased, partly because he was posting the things I was thinking, partly because he was my scum buddy last game.

Nisani, how is chaos13 playing protown? He's only made two posts....



missed a quote tag there chez... i'm disappointed.


Look, this is how Radfield talk about people. "He is town."
"He is town too." "Town too." Pretty easy to say as scum. Radfield literally found 0 scuminess in people so far.
#2: Scum-driven actions.
A) Role fishing.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 13 2011 05:00 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:
On July 13 2011 04:47 Radfield wrote:
Why did you post this? I made it clear I was role fishing, no bones about it.

To ensure that everybody saw it and was aware of it. Most people I've ever seen fishing for roles were scum.


Fair enough, but I made it awfully clear what I was doing.

Show nested quote +
It would peg them either as scum or as someone with a cash ability.

+
Show nested quote +
I find it likely that there are certain pro-town abilities(investigations, medics, etc) that require money to activate.


Trying to learn what players roles are is all mafia is. Being able to peg someone as a definite red/blue is extremely handy.


Why the heck would You want to know if someone was blue? To out them? Slip the information? Send PM about someone's role to wrong person? Role fishing IS NOT a Town trait. Town has absolutely no need in knowing who is blue. Everything Town needs to know is who is scum and who is town. You don't search for blues, You search for TOWN! The priority of course is scumhunting, but if someone behaves Town You have one person less to think about.
B) Shady contracts
So let's list what Radfield wanted to buy:
RPG (every town needs one, of course!)
Votes (You know, we have a Mayor election this game)
Bulletproof Vest (hai guise thanks to vest i survived night 1 i am totally not scum thanks to that so don't hit on my scuminess silly boys, my scum bro "sold" me one)
What Radfield sold:
Gave 25,000 Kronos to Chezinu

So let's sit down and think a bit. How good would be to have an excuse for surviving Night 1 as scum? Amazing! BPV fits in the pattern.
Votes? That was searching for SK. The first person to sell his/her vote is likely a SK. How good would be allying with one? How awesome, 2KP! Also we don't know if Radfield speaks truth about noone selling his vote. It is highly likely there's a deal between Radfield and Chezinu.
C) Excuses
+ Show Spoiler +

QUOTE]On July 13 2011 05:25 Radfield wrote:
On July 13 2011 05:03 heist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 03:56 sandroba wrote:
Hello everyone. I don't like the post above one bit. Lynching a lurker is about 27 times better than lynching rad day 1 and you say you are not sure, but he seems like a good lynch? Huh? How does that make any sense?

Also kurumi is suspicious for being a try hard, but saying nothing useful. Nisani for the above post AND for suporting kurumi.


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 04:35 sandroba wrote:
1) I'm not advocating a lurker lynch
2) I'm not defending Radfield

That said he does not strike me as scummy and I would rather we pressure really scummy people like kurumi and nisani.


Sandroba I don't see in any way how Kurumi is more scummy at this point than Radfield based on actions alone. On the contrary, Kurumi is pointing out what exactly makes Radfield our leading suspect (although the BP contradiction is quite bs). role-fishing is one of the scummiest things to do. Isn't it a bit suspicious that radfield folds on his trap after one line of inquiry? That said, is he super-scummy? No but I like his chances at flipping red more than a lurker's.



I have zero votes heist, and in no way shape or form am I the most scummy player in this thread. However, given that certain players seem to be bent on spending their time focused on me today, here is my proposal: Set aside your suspicions for 1 cycle. If by day 2 you still think I am the best target for a lynch, then push me with all your might. However, in the meantime, stop focusing on my terrible first post that had apprx 3 minutes of thought, and instead look around at the other players in the thread. I am confident that by day 2 my posting will have spoken for itself.


[/QUOTE]
"Hi guys, I scumslipped, but could You forget about it for a moment? Like, one night so I can use MY ADDITIONAL KP TO FUCK YOU OVER?"
Sure Radfield, I am totally letting You go. About the "I am confident that by day 2 my posting will have spoken for itself" just read his posts after that one, if You find someone who he suspects, a plan, anything green, tell me. He's posting utter crap, getting in deal with Chezinu and talking how everyone is town without much evidence.
Also something else:
Radfield is sure he will be alive Day 2.
##Vote Radfield
No.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 13 2011 10:59 GMT
#247
Sinani said Nisani is a bit experienced, newbie card should be non-existant.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 13 2011 21:44 GMT
#270
On July 14 2011 06:41 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 06:37 Palmar wrote:
And I don't think you're town-aligned player chaos

Interesting. What drives you to that conclusion?

Also any thoughts on my analysis of heist? Am I dead wrong?

I was talking about heist in the PM land - I stated the thing with those big letters in the beginning of Your post:
He is flying under the radar.
The thing is, I thought he is rather town because he was voicing his opinions.. A bit. The thing is; he is the only guy really flying under our spaceship. Lynch is something around 6am Europe time.. so damn bad.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 13 2011 21:56 GMT
#274
On July 14 2011 06:53 Chezinu wrote:
Save yourself Radfield!

Convince me why Nisani is scum.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 13 2011 21:58 GMT
#277
Hi Curu.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 13 2011 22:23 GMT
#282
So Chez, Sinani and You had a contract and he broke it already?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 13 2011 22:23 GMT
#283
Nisani*
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 14 2011 10:04 GMT
#333
So where is that DT check saying syllogism and sandroba are town I am missing?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 14 2011 12:37 GMT
#334
Palmar earned my trust. He knows my role, so when shit hits the fan You know the drill.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 14 2011 17:39 GMT
#351
I am not getting why chaos13 is scum out of blue. He wouldn't sell those fucking landmines but he would plant them instead and I strongly believe someone bought one. If scum got it, that's really bad. If Town, please fucking leave it alone and use as decoration together with the flowers in Your dinning room. I would STILL lynch Radfield, ON or heist are both good lynches.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#379
On July 15 2011 05:08 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 03:53 Palmar wrote:
Cause by my calculations, and judging by the PM you sent me, you sold your landmine for 355,000 kronos, and of course you had to pay 10.000 to LSB bank.

That makes 1,345,000 kronos.

But why aren't there additional 20,000 kronos missing from paying for your testament?


Because I'm assuming that is calculated at the end of the cycle.

I may as well just stop posting now. You guys are gonna kill me no matter what I say, so I'll just leave you to it. I'll be sure to drop by at the day post for a resounding "I told you so!" though.

Don't give up, give us another lynch candidate.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#381
On July 15 2011 05:15 chaos13 wrote:
I already made a giant post of my opinions on players, and that was pretty much ignored except for ON to criticize it. Really, nothing I say will make any difference at this point. I've got the entire player roster except for you tunneling on me

You listed GM and Jackal as the scummiest guys or? Who should be lynched tomorrow instead of You?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 15 2011 09:35 GMT
#432
Fuck I wanted to troll with Chezinu.. and I died! Bastards!
Still loving You <3
Go get them Town!
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
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July 19 2011 14:06 GMT
#815
I was School Bus Driver and You blew me up. Not nice.
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