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When Palmar asked for my role I told him straight up. I'll show you the PMs | ||
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Radfield said: You got any good stuff for me ? GM said: Depends on how you define "good" and "stuff". I actually have a couple different items I can sell, for the right price/equivalent items. What do you have on your end? Radfield said: Just dolla bills yo Anyways, I'm really just trying to start up a dialogue... Lurker lynch is bad GM said I disagree, I love lynching lurkers, but you should already know that ;P Anyway, any reads so far? I like how everyone concluded you were scum, its mildly amusing. | ||
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On July 17 2011 01:14 sandroba wrote: LOL, wouldn't you just fucking kill the thief in that case? Nice Radfield, really nice. If it was a thief, then probably. However, if he had some from of protection from KP, he would be fine. The bat delivers 1 KP to the visitor, if he is medic protected, vet, BP or anything else he wouldn't die. Even so, are you saying there is no conceivable way that items might be stolen from someone without triggering the Baseball Bat? If so then you're assuming far more than me. My starting role + item was fundementally unbalanced, which makes me assume that there are unbalanced items on the other side of the equation. Why is it suspicious that I would lie to GM at the very beginning of the game? As opposed to spreading around exactly what I have or do not have? | ||
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 Good luck with that You whack away with the bat... | ||
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On July 17 2011 05:00 syllogism wrote: Nah, pretty sure Rad has those I don't really get the whole vault thing, or how I would get items out of it. | ||
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On July 13 2011 02:25 Nisani201 wrote: I also am not sure about Radfield... however he seems like a good lynch to me. Unless a better lynch pops up then we probably should stay on him. A lurker lynch is not a good idea because they always end up being town, and every Townie matters when we're in a quantity battles with the Mafia in the later game (as Kurumi so nicely pointed out earlier in the thread). On July 13 2011 06:39 Nisani201 wrote: Radfield - Appears to be full of contradictions and scumslips. They are forgivable but we should definitely keep an eye on him throughout Day 2. GMarshal - Seems to be playing his standard leadership town role. I don't see a difference between his playstyle now and his playstyle from RTM so he seems innocent to me. On July 14 2011 02:04 Nisani201 wrote: OK, I've made my decision. ##Vote: Radfield ---------------- On July 17 2011 09:56 Kavdragon wrote: Look at this! The votes are so one sided that we will not only be killing an innocent, but we will be getting no information out of the lynch! Move to Radfield! On July 17 2011 09:36 OriginalName wrote: Basically the entire case on Radfield as I see it is Kurumis points d1 -Role Fishing -Some shady moves -Wanting RPGs The defense of particulerly point 3 was very weak. He said it as he was hoping this would be a fairly chill game. While he also wanted a vest this is pure meta on Rad due to his usual short lifespan. D2 Uh has he done anything? I think Palmars img was quite apt and his willingness to give up his bat has made me think hes trying too get townie cred... Or its boobied. All in all ##Vote Radfield On July 17 2011 09:58 Kavdragon wrote: Syllogism, OriginalName had no support from anyone. This is an exact repeat of SNMM3. Vote radfield today I like how any game where I can't die (vet, BP, etc) I get tunneled by mafia the whole game... | ||
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Anyways, check me tonight dt. Or check GM/Kav, as he is the last red obviously. Either one will clear up the endgame. | ||
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Why don't you think I am the last mafia member? | ||
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However, I could be a vet and still be mafia Kav could be a hitman and still be mafia. | ||
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On July 17 2011 23:37 sandroba wrote: Radfield, even if you really have the role you claim, there's simply no way you are town this game. You played very suspicious day one for a townie with that role. You were begginng for a DT check / Vig shot. If you had this role as town, I'm 100% positive you would play it very differently. So either way, lying about your role or not you are still mafia. What happened Day 1: I posted some funsy posts to start the game. Extrememly non-standard play for me, no matter if i'm mafia or town. Check my other games as mafia, I post very straight up. Because of my poor posting, suspicion is thrown on me from several different angles. I spend much of the day defending myself, culminating on me trying to straighten things out by asking for a grace period. It's extremely difficult to get reads on players when everyone is either defending you or attacking you. Your bias kicks in and it's difficult to remain objective, even if you realize the bias is there. Despite this, I still become a lynch target based on super flimsy evidence. Because of this I have become an obvious target for both dt's and vigis, possibly still medics simply based on who I am. I plan on claiming my role in thread to avoid anyone visiting me at night. Ask Palmar, as he is the one who dissuaded me from revealing my role in thread, even going so far as to call me stupid As an aside, in PYPI, foolishness accused me of the same thing. "There's no way you would play the way you did if you were Bulletproof". I try to play the same no matter my role: Red, Green, Blue or Vet. However, this game I played extremely different to start off the game. What does this mean? I'm red? I'm blue? Of course not, it simply means that I posted thinking this game was fundamentally different from other mafia games I have joined in the past. As it turns out, this is playing out very similar to a standard game, and is not fundamentally different in any way. The only reason I joined this is I thought I could get by with low activity requirements. I dropped out of Closed Casket due to time constraints, and I disclaimered this game by saying I didn't intend on doing much combing of the thread. Sandro, here are the reasons that you think I am scum: * My role seems to unbalanced to believe. I agree with you here, and obviously I can't defend it. It's hardly an indictment of me though in a game such as this. * My non-standard posting this game I've tried to address this above, and I hope you agree that this is a null-tell at best. My posting so far this game doesn't resemble any mafia game I have EVER played. Regardless of role. * ON's behaviour during Day 1. Again, I see where you are coming from, but I think we need to break this down more. First off, lets agree that lynching me Day 1, and having me flip green, would make every player on that train look very suspicious. Even more so, any player who early on defended me or stated they didn't want to lynch me, would look like an almost for sure mafia. Once Nisani flipped red later in the game, even more evidence would be piled up. Originalname posted very early on that he thought lynching me Day 1 was a bad idea(just like you Sandro). He stated this long before Nisani ever because a clear target. Imagine what it would look like if he(or you) decided to change their mind and suddenly vote for me based on weak evidence. So, when did OriginalName put down his vote on Nisani? There were 4 votes on each of Radfield and Nisani, but I had yet to vote, and GM had already indicated he wanted to save me. As such, there was no way that Nisani could be saved, even if OriginalName had switched his vote onto me. Once myself and GM voted, it would be 6-5 and Nisani still would have flipped red, except that now ON would be totally busted. As godfather, the one thing you don't want to do is mess with your voting habits. I have more to say about GM's role during Day 1(not to mention Kav's role during Day 2), but I have no more time to spend on the comp. | ||
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I see why you think i'm scum, but I feel like you're blinding yourself to whats been going on. I still don't understand why you guys are giving heist a pass. Was he the dt check last night? anyways, I hate to draw attention to an after death post again but: On July 17 2011 12:16 OriginalName wrote: THERE KAV I TRIED ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!?!?!?! ?? | ||
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On July 17 2011 12:49 Kavdragon wrote: You didn't try hard enough. I could have stopped this with your help. On another note, that sounds really scummy! Why do you wish you had stopped it? I feel like this is a GG post... | ||
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On July 18 2011 01:02 Palmar wrote: I said that you were not stupid enough to actually think that was a good idea. That's the thing, you're way smarter than the way you're playing. I've read pypi and I've seen you play in ccm, this thing is out of character for both your town and scum play. Also, trying to play exactly the same as green as when you're red is stupid, it only works one way. You should always try to establish you're green, even if that means smashing your metagame for when you're scum. Anyway, I think you're much better at town than you've showed us this game, and that's one of the big damning factors as to why I think you're scum. I don't think you guys are actually reading what I'm saying anymore, but that's ok. I said that you were not stupid enough to actually think that was a good idea. That's the thing, you're way smarter than the way you're playing. I've read pypi and I've seen you play in ccm, this thing is out of character for both your town and scum play. Yet Sandro is trying to indict me partly on the basis that I didn't reveal my role. And you're here telling me that I was not stupid enough to think that revealing my role was a good idea... Also, I agree that my play is "is out of character for both your town and scum play". I'm not sure if you're insinuating i'm the SK, but go browse PYP1, where I was the SK. I assure my play this game lines up with no game I have ever played. You guys seem to think it's because I'm scum, but it's actually just a symptom of the very little free time I have at the moment, and my desire to play a game with a bit more of a funsy spirit. Anyway, I think you're much better at town than you've showed us this game, and that's one of the big damning factors as to why I think you're scum. Again, I agree. You're seeing the right information(poor play), but drawing the wrong conclusion(scum). Partly my poor play is because of my inactivity, but partly it is due to me being a suspect since the beginning of day 1. I've spent most of my free time defending myself, instead of actually searching for suspects. The truth of it is, I actually suspected ON would flip green. That shows how non-existent my scum-hunting has been. Sandro, I had a strong pro-town read on Palmar, and already intended(before he PMed me) to both A) announce that I had a PGO item, and B) Trade that item to a pro-town player before the next night I could have traded it during Day 1, but I felt that to announce my PGO-ness during day 1(either publicly or privately), while I was up for lynch would only complicate matters(which it would have). When Palmar contacted me and asked me to trade it(under threat of death) I agreed, under the circumstance that he not reveal he had the Bat to any other player, no matter how much he trusted them. Instead, he changed his mind and asked me to trade it to Jackal, who he explained he was certain(100%) was town. I agreed. Why won't anyone answer about heist? He has shown up on zero scum lists despite not being in the least confirmed. | ||
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It's night time, I'm not trying to get anyone lynched right now. Though if Kav survives the night, I will try to get him lynched. | ||
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