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On July 13 2011 00:36 Radfield wrote: I am also fairly decent at finding reds, though I'll admit that I'm somewhat weak when it comes to PM games, which I don't normally join. I find this scummy too. | ||
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On July 13 2011 01:00 Radfield wrote: Every player in every mafia game ever should be 'afraid' of being under suspicion, at least in the sense that you should do what you can to appear town-aligned and not get mislynched. Oozing green is the best trait any pro-town player can have. So why don't you ooze green? | ||
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If someone gives you a bulletproof vest, LSB will know it's a bulletproof vest, but is unable to tell if it's super powerful, broken, booby trapped etc. So you can't say to someone you're giving him a bulletproof vest, but really you're just giving him a gun, a flower, a book or a goddamn RPG. Anyway, stop trying to find holes in the rules and go play mafia. | ||
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On July 13 2011 03:56 sandroba wrote: Hello everyone. I don't like the post above one bit. Lynching a lurker is about 27 times better than lynching rad day 1 and you say you are not sure, but he seems like a good lynch? Huh? How does that make any sense? Also kurumi is suspicious for being a try hard, but saying nothing useful. Nisani for the above post AND for suporting kurumi. This is the most scummy thing I've read in this thread yet. But I agree with you on Kurumi. | ||
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Everyone knows that we'll default to lynching lurkers, but with over 30 hours remaining in day one there is no reason to defend anyone like you just defended Radfield. Let him answer for himself. There were several good reasons for attacking him. Yes, Nisani is being a bit derp, but that's no reason to completely stop the attack against Radfield. | ||
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But then again, I completely agree with Sandroba on ON. ON has done almost nothing but not commiting this game, he also randomly fos'd sandroba out of the blue. I was talking to him on IRC at the time, and he mentioned radfield/kurumi/nisani being scummy, but a little later I said Sandroba was scummy, and that's the person he fos'd. He basically went with my read over his own, which also smells like an attempt to buy friends. | ||
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On July 13 2011 05:16 GMarshal wrote: Wait, Chezinu is playing in this? Day 1 target acquired.  That's interesting. You suggested exactly the same thing day 1 as scum in CCM. You know that if we policy lynch him scum will basically get a free pass day 1 hiding behind a policy lynch. | ||
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GMarshal is another one to look at, I don't like half of what he's done so far. Anyway, I need to sleep. A thousand times goodnight. | ||
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The point about really wanting to delay the lynch by one cycle is especially damning. As town you'd simply prove your innocence through pro-town posting and not worry so much about staying alive for one night. I spoke with Radfield in detail last night. re-reading the IRC logs now. | ||
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But then again, he is actually not bad at this game, maybe this is his scumplay. LSB, are you trolling me? Everyone is scummy. | ||
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OriginalName The plan is to show with this post that OriginalName is very likely to be scum. I have went back and re-read his entire posting history. This, along with the shenanigans in PM land, leads me to believe that ON is indeed not part of our lovely town. The first thing I'd like to bring to everyone's attention is the fact that ON has hardly accused anyone in this game, except for Sandroba. His accusation on Sandroba is incredibly weak. On July 13 2011 05:44 OriginalName wrote: I had weak cases until I found Sandroba, I still have weak cases, I dont like commiting to weak cases because very often weak cases are wrong. I haven't even put a vote down on anyone yet and neither has anyone else. So how can anyone really be called commital yet? As soon as I call him out on not committing he claims to have suddenly found a strong case. A case that was basically based on my own initial suspicion of Sandroba. He hasn't said a damn word in the thread about why Sandroba is scummy, just that "it's not a weak case". But while ON has not been busy making enemies by calling them scum, he sure as hell has been trying to make friends. On July 13 2011 05:10 OriginalName wrote: Meta =/= Scum. And depending on how items work and such he could be right. On July 13 2011 05:40 OriginalName wrote: Please provide evidence because im fairly sure i committed to lynching scummy lurkers over all else day 1 and im even more sure that you are just omgusing me because i decided to push you. I agree mostly with that list overall though syllogism just hasnt done quite enough yet to warrent that spot. On July 13 2011 01:57 OriginalName wrote: I don't like lynching Radfield day 1, hes generally a very good player as such hes been killed N1 of alot of games recently (PYPI was the exception as he picked bulletproof) for good reason. This is stupid, just because he says hes not good at PM games doesnt mean it takes alot of skill to lay a pm trap. Its just knowing how to play mafia in a reasonable manner, revealing it was a trap in my opinion was the only silly move he did there. On July 13 2011 01:58 OriginalName wrote: Also he could be lying about said pm skills to avoid scum shooting by appearing meeker. This is scum play 101. If I tell GMarshal I think he's town, he's going to find it more likely that I am town too. It's just the mutual trust thing. ON is very busy telling us various players are town sided so we can all hold hands in one happy circle while he kills us during night. He cannot commit to scumreads, but he's sure as hell willing to commit to town reads. Why a town player would ever do that? I have no idea. And finally, he posts some blanket statements and instructions on how to play. Those things are scum favourites, as they look like contributions but sure as hell they aren't. I'll give a few examples in the next few quotes. On July 13 2011 01:31 OriginalName wrote: It really depends on the scenario for gaining the item. I think the system should go something like this, Do I think the Item is boobied? If yes - Announce the damned contract if no - Keep it to yourself. Otherwise if your really scared about secrecy or weather its announced or not just write it in the contract that said person will announce that he has completed it with another player. On July 13 2011 04:09 OriginalName wrote: While this is true in theory, it should be based on such a thing as a Lurker who is posting fairly town or a lurker with weak opinions. We obviously lynch the lurker with weak opinions if there is a person we are on the fence about, that way we can buy ourselves time to look at the scummy active player who may turn out to be town and have solid scumreads for the remainder of the game. On July 13 2011 05:05 OriginalName wrote: Because its all mostly gutreads that I honestly have barely any evidence to back up with it. I cant go oh look their 100% after 5 posts from each of them. There has to be patterns. Sure one case can be scummy and look you pointed out my pattern of not really giving evidence. And now im responding because In sands case its mostly the Lynching lurkers for lynching lurkers angle rather than lynching lurkers because they're scummy. The last one is especially incriminating. He is making damn fucking sure that no one thinks he's convinced in his reads. Good plan, then people can't call you out for a bad day 1 lynch. No they'll be calling out the people who led the lynch. Well sucks for ON that it'll be him hanging. Not even love can save you now, scum. OriginalName is Scum ##Vote OriginalName | ||
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Your point number one is completely invalid, as the mafia would have no reason to take down a player they think are under suspicion, no matter how strong his play is. But on the other hand, I had exactly the same thoughts as you on your point number three, Radfield is simply too good at this to slip up like that on day one. I still like ON better as day 1 lynch. | ||
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