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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 13 2011 20:13 GMT
#257
On July 14 2011 02:04 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, I've made my decision.

##Vote: Radfield


Bandwagon much?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 13 2011 21:58 GMT
#276
##Vote Niasni201

I'd rather not lynch Radfield day 1.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 14 2011 18:30 GMT
#362
On July 15 2011 02:27 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 00:22 syllogism wrote:
But hey Chaos13, to give you the benefit of the doubt, feel free to list people who you have

"have been recommending that one of the two targets be a strong suspect."

Oh, and have you sold any yet and if so, to whom


Radfield. In conversation with GM in PM land (or perhaps someone else, or both, I can't quite recall), we came to the conclusion that because there was such an obvious split lynch on Nisani/Radfield, that one of them had to be mafia. Since Nisani flipped mafia, that almost entirely clears Radfield of being mafia, but it doesn't eliminate the possibility of him being SK. Apparently in this game we have to kill both SK and mafia to win, meaning lynching SK is just as good or better than lynching mafia. I've since changed my opinion on Rad somewhat. Keep an eye on him. Don't take him out tomorrow without really good reason. However, if he goes into lurker mode over the next few days he is scum.

Palmar, syllogism, and sandroba. These guys are the three main ones attacking me right now, and it is all based on discussion in PM's. I think one out of the three of them is scum, but I really can't say for sure which one it is.

Jackal58 and GMarshal. These two are both really good players, and they're both giving me a really bad feeling that I can't quite place the origin of. I almost always have a scum read on Jackal early on, so there may not be too much into this, but I almost always find GM to be the towniest guy in the game when he plays as town. If Jackal doesn't start contributing more and improving his scumhunting, I would consider him a viable lynch target. GM, you just need to keep a close eye on.

OriginalName and heist. Flying way under the radar. At the moment I really can't think of anything that stands out about either of them. Watch their vote patterns, watch how they interact with other players. Since their posting doesn't give much away, you need to connect them to other people who have confirmed alignments.

Chezinu. He's basically unreadable. However, with what went on with Nisani earlier, I think it is quite likely that he is town.

Remember, we only have a 12 player game. This means that vote patterns are going to be one of your strongest tool for connecting players. I encourage each and every one of you to keep a file on your computer with the final vote tallies for each day, and highlight players with their alignment color when they flip. For example, in a brief glance at this

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 10:34 LSB wrote:
Radfield
Kurumi
chaos13
Jackal58
Nisani201

OriginalName
Palmar

Nisani201
heist
syllogism
Sandroba
Radfield
OriginalName

Heist
GMarshal

Jackal58
Chezinu


we can see that Palmar, GM, and Chezinu all voted for someone who was not one of the two main candidates. This means that they do not have to be held accountable for being on a wrong lynch, while also not throwing votes onto Nisani. On Radfield we have four players. I am certain that Kurumi is town, and I know that I am, so that leaves Jackal as the only one whose alignment is in question. Shortly after this he switched his vote to Nisani, but it wasn't the deciding vote. Jackal's likelihood of being mafia just went up.


You guys want a roleclaim, so here it is.

Alignment: Town (Demolitions Expert)
Ability: You can make landmines at the cost of 350,000 kronos each
Inventory: 1 Land mine- You can set this up at night between two people. If either of the people try to target the other, instead they will be blown up.



I have created a testament as well. Everything in my possession will be going to a player I have a strong town read on. I was hoping this game would turn out better, but hopefully this post will be of some use when I flip Town.


So your basically saying that 9/11 of us can be/are scum.

Great observation.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 04:06 GMT
#417
On July 15 2011 12:19 sandroba wrote:
Chezinu is scum. There are two different kinds of trolling by chezinu. The completely useless one, when he only posts unhelpfull funny nonsense (see PYPI) and the one which he actively looks for mafia in a troll like fashion (see CCM and that other old game he was DT, forgot which).
This game it's pretty obvious which one that is.
Now let's look at chez actions: He claimed to have started the wagon against nisani, but that is false and an atempt to buy cred. I made the analysis and voted for him first. He then unvoted nisani out of the blue when he was close to getting lynched, possibly lynching Radfield. Radfield is very likely not scum, by occam's razor.


If he is scum then I'd have to assume hes SK since,

a) He claims to have taken a hit and now unless SOME IDIOT decided to sell mafia a bulletproof vest (ie claim now or else) hes SK as they are bulletproof. (I recall asking LSB that and he said it was true).

b) Hes not and hes actually an immortal banker, at which point I have no fucking idea what is going on with his role.

+ Show Spoiler +
If you did sell him a vest for the love of god please claim (at the very least to Palmar).
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:18 GMT
#440
On July 15 2011 22:20 Chezinu wrote:
ON seems smart this game.. too smart...


...huh?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:33 GMT
#445
On July 16 2011 00:28 Palmar wrote:
Actually scratch that, ON is a lying scum and deserves to hang tonight.

You see, remember last night when we were pressing chaos about the contracts? The reason is that Syllogism has an ability that tells him how much money is left in the game in total every night.

At the start of the game we had 12 million kronos in the game, 1 million disappeared when tekkie died and another 1 when kurumi died. Chaos13 testamented his stuff to me. some cash also got sucked out of the game through LSB contract fees and testament fees.

But here is the problem. ON has claimed started the game with 1.5 million, which doesn't fit at all. But the most interesting fact is that he claimed to have bought items from Nisani and paid 500k kronos for them, so now he has 1 million kronos.

So that's lie number 1. Everyone started the game with 1 million kronos. ON is lying about his initial cash amount.


And on to lie number 2.

He couldn't possibly have finalized any contract with Nisani, because nisani got lynched so his deals would not have gone through.

And then there is the tiny little fact that ON claimed a very shitty role. Here are some pms between me and him.



Show nested quote +
Original Message From OriginalName:
I Have 1 million atm i bought the probably boobied DT cloak for 500k (started with 1.5mil) and some bulletproof vest appeared in it last night Im not sure how though.
LSB doesnt send me updates on whats in it unless I ask him, so It might be awhile before I can give you a full inventory as most of this is based purely off memory.

Original Message From Palmar:
I need to both know the exact amount of money you have, and I need to know every item you have.

Original Message From OriginalName:
Im a Vault Keeper.

Im disallowed from using items but I have an item that allows the taking and giving items for free. However the vault can only be opened by those with the password, I am still able to buy items like normal people but was given somewhat more cash.

All I have is a few items i got from Nisani early in the game so Im assuming their boobied.


OriginalName is scum

##Vote OriginalName


I'm going to start with this, there is nothing saying there is or is not exceptions to this rule, and if you bothered to actually look at it you would realize I CANT BLOODY USE ITEMS. Another note is if you notice I had a vault with free access to items and money, I traded using that its not hard at all, money goes in money goes out item goes in i change vault password GG.

Stop assuming that everything is going to follow every single mechanic to the letter. Im convinced the item he gave me is boobied purely based off the fact that he even gave it to me.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:34 GMT
#447
On July 16 2011 00:33 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 00:28 Palmar wrote:
Actually scratch that, ON is a lying scum and deserves to hang tonight.

You see, remember last night when we were pressing chaos about the contracts? The reason is that Syllogism has an ability that tells him how much money is left in the game in total every night.

At the start of the game we had 12 million kronos in the game, 1 million disappeared when tekkie died and another 1 when kurumi died. Chaos13 testamented his stuff to me. some cash also got sucked out of the game through LSB contract fees and testament fees.

But here is the problem. ON has claimed started the game with 1.5 million, which doesn't fit at all. But the most interesting fact is that he claimed to have bought items from Nisani and paid 500k kronos for them, so now he has 1 million kronos.

So that's lie number 1. Everyone started the game with 1 million kronos. ON is lying about his initial cash amount.


And on to lie number 2.

He couldn't possibly have finalized any contract with Nisani, because nisani got lynched so his deals would not have gone through.

And then there is the tiny little fact that ON claimed a very shitty role. Here are some pms between me and him.



Original Message From OriginalName:
I Have 1 million atm i bought the probably boobied DT cloak for 500k (started with 1.5mil) and some bulletproof vest appeared in it last night Im not sure how though.
LSB doesnt send me updates on whats in it unless I ask him, so It might be awhile before I can give you a full inventory as most of this is based purely off memory.

Original Message From Palmar:
I need to both know the exact amount of money you have, and I need to know every item you have.

Original Message From OriginalName:
Im a Vault Keeper.

Im disallowed from using items but I have an item that allows the taking and giving items for free. However the vault can only be opened by those with the password, I am still able to buy items like normal people but was given somewhat more cash.

All I have is a few items i got from Nisani early in the game so Im assuming their boobied.


OriginalName is scum

##Vote OriginalName


I'm going to start with this, there is nothing saying there is or is not exceptions to this rule, and if you bothered to actually look at it you would realize I CANT BLOODY USE ITEMS. Another note is if you notice I had a vault with free access to items and money, I traded using that its not hard at all, money goes in money goes out item goes in i change vault password GG.

Stop assuming that everything is going to follow every single mechanic to the letter. Im convinced the item he gave me is boobied purely based off the fact that he even gave it to me.


EBWOP

look at my role PM sorry.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:35 GMT
#448
On July 16 2011 00:33 Palmar wrote:
Well in his defense, he did claim he could make contracts free.

But the starting amount of money is a blatant lie.


Unless you get mod confirmation I stand by my claim as the truth and nothing but the truth.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:35 GMT
#451
On July 16 2011 00:35 syllogism wrote:
So can you trade stuff in real time


Yes.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:36 GMT
#452
On July 16 2011 00:35 Palmar wrote:
So are you saying you can conjure up money?


No I cannot conjure up money I STARTED WITH 1.5Million. I knew that was extra and asked LSB and he just said that was intentional.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:39 GMT
#456
On July 16 2011 00:36 syllogism wrote:
What's the point of the vault again


Beats me I was just going to find people that were townies and give them the PW so they could exchange items faster / free between them. I actually offered this to GM but I think he suspected me and turned it down. Good thing too, Nisani turned out scum and I was going to give him the DT item.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:39 GMT
#457
On July 16 2011 00:37 syllogism wrote:
Someone has to PM the host the password and he gets what's inside, immediately?


No after that point he has access to the vault he can take and give what he chooses afterwords.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:42 GMT
#459
The only possibility I can see is that due to it being later in the day Nisani just forgot to take the 500k out of the vault. I dont get updated constantly on the contents so I asked LSB to send me a PM with whats in it right now, I will POST THE FULL CONTENTS when I receive them.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:42 GMT
#460
On July 16 2011 00:41 syllogism wrote:
Can you show the PM conversation you had with nisani201. You've less than a minute


Im no my phone with no copy-paste theres no chance in hell thats happening.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:52 GMT
#465
On July 16 2011 00:46 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 00:42 OriginalName wrote:
The only possibility I can see is that due to it being later in the day Nisani just forgot to take the 500k out of the vault. I dont get updated constantly on the contents so I asked LSB to send me a PM with whats in it right now, I will POST THE FULL CONTENTS when I receive them.


But then syllo would've had the information that 12.5 million kronos were in the game at the start of the game

:D


How do you know hes not fake claiming for all you know he could be scum too.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:53 GMT
#467
On July 16 2011 00:51 syllogism wrote:
Why didn't you warn people of these potentially dangerous items when Nisani flipped mafia Tekker


Because I didnt give any away. I stated to Palmar the item in the vault is probably boobied right when he asked for claims.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:55 GMT
#469
On July 16 2011 00:54 syllogism wrote:
Why did buy an item for 500k from nisani when you can't use items


BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO STOCKPILE THEM AND FIND PEOPLE WHO WERE REASONABLY TOWNIE TO USE THEM. I THINK IVE STATED THIS TWO OR THREE TIMES NOW.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:57 GMT
#471
On July 16 2011 00:57 Palmar wrote:
Can I put money in your vault?

I want to put 50.000 kronos in your vault. How can I do that?


Ill pm you instructions.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 15:58 GMT
#473
mmk

PM LSB

PW: Lorelei

just say what you want to give or take along with it.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 15 2011 16:12 GMT
#486
On July 16 2011 01:00 Chezinu wrote:
OriginalName your Fired!!1 you have yet to supply me with my proper logo and membership card design! Not only that, but your a spy! Your the infiltrator!! You tried to rob my Bank!! OriginalName is an enemy of the Chezinu Banking System. The Spy planes confirm. There can only be one.. Trying to run your own vault... THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!!!! aside from LSB b/c he is cool!

##Vote OriginalName


I SAID I WOULD DO IT IN MY SPARE TIME QQ
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