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The situation is different here though since, presumably, town has been self destructing on day 1. In that game there was a serious need for misdirection
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On July 09 2011 00:41 syllogism wrote:
The situation is different here though since, presumably, town has been self destructing on day 1. In that game there was a serious need for misdirection
And how do you know the town *isn't* being misdirected?
The key event that threw us into chaos yesterday and started a chain of nukes was sandroba nuking me. Another key, although less important event was the YM nuke. Yet neither of these two key instigators have flipped, despite taking the town from "we lynch anyone who nukes" to "AGGGH CHAOS AND DISORDER!!!"
What a coincidence, don't you agree?
I think the mafia is trying to cause chaos right before our eyes, and we are just ignoring them, because "mafia isn't that blatant"
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It's possible, but I just can't see youngminii as scum. If only sandroba is somehow red, that doesn't really make sense. They would have to both be and I don't think they would be this bad.
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Another thing, if Sandroba is red, why would he claim nuke immunity after youngminii had already shot down the nuke. It's information that can only cause suspicion and help town.
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On July 09 2011 00:48 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 00:41 syllogism wrote:
The situation is different here though since, presumably, town has been self destructing on day 1. In that game there was a serious need for misdirection And how do you know the town *isn't* being misdirected? The key event that threw us into chaos yesterday and started a chain of nukes was sandroba nuking me. Another key, although less important event was the YM nuke. Yet neither of these two key instigators have flipped, despite taking the town from "we lynch anyone who nukes" to "AGGGH CHAOS AND DISORDER!!!" What a coincidence, don't you agree? I think the mafia is trying to cause chaos right before our eyes, and we are just ignoring them, because "mafia isn't that blatant"
Problem is there are so many who are causing such disorder that we can't really hang them all at once. Throw Palmar claiming conspirator into the mix and it's not unreasonable we have such dissension. Today should be much better though with operation Watchtower.
Heads up to everyone - I'm going camping and will not be able to get online again until sunday evening. Unfortunately with the delay of the day post this means I will likely not have time to vote, seeing as there is no chance of day being extended by nukes (Watchtower ftw). However, rest assured that I would be voting for sandroba or Coagulation.
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On July 09 2011 00:12 deconduo wrote:
Relying solely on nameclaims is dumb, but completely dismissing them as useless information is just bad. We need to be looking at everything, claims, play, meta, any dt checks etc. You can't just automatically say that someone is town because they nameclaimed (see: cultists) but you can't ignore the claims either.
Another useless post by deconduo.
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On July 09 2011 01:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 00:12 deconduo wrote:
Relying solely on nameclaims is dumb, but completely dismissing them as useless information is just bad. We need to be looking at everything, claims, play, meta, any dt checks etc. You can't just automatically say that someone is town because they nameclaimed (see: cultists) but you can't ignore the claims either. Another useless post by deconduo.
I was trying to ignore your pettiness, but fine. Lets have a look at your wonderful posts. Oh wait, they're pretty much ALL USELESS.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2011 22:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Ill b around later if plans gp right
Sry something happened
sidenote. Palmars nuke plan is best. Don't. Oh noes, need a lurking excuse. Otherwise a useless post On July 07 2011 00:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 22:35 deconduo wrote:
~OPZ~ where are you. Stop lurking so hard and dropping votes without talking. I would post, but I've been....Indisposed. Something came up that I've been waiting FOREVER for. When I planned to get on and actually be focused I got a phone call from the one....and she was like "I'm in town" and I was like "OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOGMG" in my head and replied "That's cool." So....Turning her back into "The One" became priority number one, when priority number one should of been nailing the bitch. I didn't expect that at all though. And I'm sorry for my inactivity, but it is what it is...I just want to be happy with my red head before she goes back to Middle Georgia (probably today, considering she was "gonna leave last night" before she called me, but the repeated hints of "well my classes are all online this semester so I don't NEED to go back) Wish me luck?. So I'm sorry for that guys. I promise to contribute as soon as I get a chance, but I haven't even been able to follow the thread even. I just through my vote on Mataza because I seen the nuke. (Plus, I'm at home on my lunch break atm, but I don't even know what the rest of my day is gonna be like.) I read Palmar's nuke plan, and agreed with it at least, and I felt I needed to voice my opinion. If your town and are getting lynched, you shouldn't launch your nukes unless directly obliged. We have an SK to deal with too, g-dammit. I'm hoping to be around later tonight. I gotta get back to work now. Useless, oh and spreading lies about an SK On July 07 2011 00:40 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 00:36 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Also DT check OPZ the difference between a SK and a conspirator is quite huge. Conspirator isn't just a fancy SK? Oh really? On July 07 2011 04:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Okay.....I'm back for a while.....She left me....So I have time to read and catch up. Quit posting for a while guys. Lmao. Useless On July 07 2011 05:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...I'm only on page 11, but Curu just seems scummy. @_@....I f5'd page 49, and seen thread went up five more and I'm guessing sandroba nuked him? Clearly I wasn't the only one that thought that. Nice FOS, otherwise useless. On July 07 2011 06:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 11:42 Curu wrote:On July 06 2011 11:34 sinani206 wrote:On July 06 2011 11:14 Curu wrote:On July 06 2011 11:08 sinani206 wrote:On July 06 2011 11:00 Curu wrote:On July 06 2011 10:55 sinani206 wrote:On July 06 2011 10:51 Curu wrote:On July 06 2011 10:47 chaos13 wrote:On July 06 2011 10:46 Curu wrote:
Sandroba has a scumslip but at least he didn't vote for Operation Gunnerside (if he had after initial conversations with him, I would have bandwagoned the fuck out of him).
That said IMO lurkers hurt Town more than anything else. With a full active playerbase Mafia has to be active meaning more chances for scumslips and important information leaking out. If they can just hide in the lurkers, we have nothing to go on.
I'd like to lure out Cthsazsa, Zona , ~OpZ~ or gtrsrs as they haven't posted -anything- at all. Looks like there's one other for Zona so let's get that started.
##Vote: Zona ..you agree that he made a scum slip...and you vote for someone else. What the fuck? Willing to give the benefit of the doubt for now. If you notice, I'm the one that called him out on the scumslip first so believe me I'm putting weight into it. sandroba's been more active than most though and his posts actually have content in them. My vote on him hinged on what operation he voted for and the one he did choose didn't set off my alarms. Nothing is more dangerous than scum being able to hide amongst Townie lurkers so that's my modus operandi until all the lurkers start doing something useful. This post is scummy as fuck. It sounds like you and sandroba are both scum, and you screwed up by sharing his scumslip and now you want to come back and defend your ally. Why should your vote hinge (to use your word) on which operation he voted for? Your vote should be for the scummiest player. The whole lurker excuse is complete bullshit. ##Vote: sandroba
I propose a nuke of Curu lol? Why would I even point out his scumslip if I didn't want to draw attention to it? How cute, you ignore all the accusations on you in this thread and instead try to divert attention on me with something completely stupid and baseless. Seems like you're in a hurried panic, hmm? My vote hinged on what operation he voted for because he had a whole argument formed based on Mafia's nukes being useless. If sandroba had gone against that whole line of argument he was making (and he was quite involved with it) then he would have appeared scummy as fuck. But he didn't. Instead you now appear scummy as fuck. Saying a lurker excuse is bullshit without providing any reasoning? Proposing to nuke me because I didn't lynch based on a scumslip that I FIRST POINTED OUT? If I had wanted that scumslip unavoided I wouldn't have posted anything about it. I still want to draw the lurkers out but I'd suggest everyone keeping a firm eye on you. I acknowledge pressure votes of me in this thread, and that's why I'm accusing you. Note that the votes for me are pressure votes, not votes to kill me. What I'm saying is you are covering your mistake of pointing it out by not voting him now. I'm saying you made a mistake by pointing it out in the first place and want to correct it. There are other ways people can be scummy besides contradicting themselves. Just because sandroba didn't contradict himself doesn't mean he's clear at all. The lurker excuse was bullshit because you are using it to draw attention away from sandroba by choosing to lurker-hunt instead. You announce the scumslip on sandroba and then don't pressure him and make the excuse of wanting to find scum among lurkers. You could have just voted for sandroba, but you want to defend him because you are both scum. Ok explain one thing to me. Why did I point it out in the first place if we are both scum then? The whole bandwagon against sandroba is starting because of that scumslip. I POINTED OUT THAT SCUMSLIP. I'm not trying to back up and I'm not trying to cover my tracks. I drew attention to that scumslip because I wanted everyone to be aware of it. I just don't think it's as much grounds for serious pressuring yet based purely off of that. You STILL haven't posted anything explaining your scummy posting that's getting you pressured and instead try to draw attention to me. That's just creating more confusion for Town. You're looking scummier by the second. I'm not trying to draw attention away from sandroba. I'm going in with guns blazing. Every single one of my posts at him has mentioned his scumslip. I just don't think he's shown to be more dangerous (yet) than many other people. You very much included. I KNOW THAT YOU POINTED OUT THAT SCUMSLIP. I've said that multiple times. What I'm saying is that you realize how big of a deal that is and don't want to lose a teammate day one. I'd like an example of my "scummy posting that's getting me pressured" so I can explain it. Is that what you want? What do you mean "more dangerous?" If he's scum, you vote for him. Period. It's obviously better to lynch him than someone else who might be town but isn't playing well. Sometimes people forget that town wins when all of the scum are dead. If sandroba is scum, you kill him. Uhh, go look at the accusations against you. Don't pretend you haven't seen them, you acknowledged that you were being pressured but didn't post anything to explain yourself. If I didn't want to lose a "teammate" day one I never would have mentioned that scumslip in the first place. Honestly what advantage would that give to me? Explain it. If we're both scum, what advantage would me pointing out his scumslip give me? Town cred? I could only gain that if I followed up immediately with a full-out conviction to lynch him and the lynch went through. I don't know that he's scum. He has a scumslip but he gave his reasoning for that. You, on the other hand, have done nothing but try to redirect attention to me when there's pressure on you. Even then, you haven't brought up one legitimate reason against me besides that I pointed out a scumslip but am not foaming-at-mouth lynching the person responsible behind it. I explained my reasoning. Hell, sandroba even explained his reasoning for the slip. The only person who hasn't done anything constructive is you. I'm done arguing with you. We're just distracting the Town now and you don't seem to want to throw up anything constructive besides rehashing your non-points. I just want to say....That this was the most worthless argument, because anyone else seeing the "scumslip" would of pointed it out. I was more concerned with GMarshal's direct renig on his plan. Like..."lynch anyone not complying to nuking" but "take 3 nukes from scum!!" at the same time....Scum can't nuke unless we want them to nuke, but he chose a seemingly more town operation. Wow, a post with a bit of substance finally! On July 07 2011 11:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Dudes, n dudettes, I'm on pizzage 28....@_@....making notes and shit.
Eii is another person I suspect @_@....But That's from earlier shit....page 9ish to 11ish I think....Wrote a star by his name even....His lil tussle with Sandroba...Basically....You all talk to damn much. Gmarshal talkin bout hypothetical abilities....@_@...Like GTFO. Back to useless. On July 07 2011 11:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 23:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 06 2011 22:42 Navillus wrote:
Hi people I'm back for 1 quick post and will be back in full in a few hours, but we need to keep hard to our policy, the point of policies is that no one can break them without being taken out instantly and with full town backing, this will prove to mafia that they cannot fire nukes and live, otherwise they will, not might, will follow mataza's example and we will get a shitstorm of nukes. Frankly we have a really really good policy going and should be suspicious of anyone trying to break it, and should make it as difficult as we possibly can to weaken or get rid of this policy, this means we have to lynch mataza. In the mean time move on to other analysis while we wait for him to die fuck policy he just nuked out of nowhere. It shouldnt take a policy to take him out. However we made a mistake. Voting on him is the dumbest thing we can do. This is whats going to happen : we lynch him, he will flip black or red, i dont care. Next day we wake up AND WE HAVE NOTHING. No information is going to be gained today, Mafia will just Happily bandwagon along with the rest of the town. We have to nuke him. Not only that but we also have to kill his nuke, because if it is going to hit and Sandy loses it its over. Lets not screw ourselves over and start day 2 with no information, The WLR stays the same but we at least kill this stupid bandwagon. ARGH I'M SO STUPID I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS BEFORE >< Good point from TAA Useless On July 07 2011 14:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:I <3 caller cuz he generally isn't too banlist friendly... xD Also...I've finally got caught up, and now work at 7 a.m.....its fucking almost 2.... -_-... Decoundo screams scum. Navilus too. Two people accuse you of lurking. You say the scream scum. Nice OMGUS. Aslo a useless post. On July 07 2011 14:48 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 21:15 prplhz wrote:
What the hell is awesome about ruining everything for everybody? Either you're a douchebag or you're a terrorist with no place in this game or in any game. In the latter case, get the fuck out. If you don't want/have time to read the game then you shouldn't be in it anyway. I hope you get modkilled so we save a lynch.
If there is any undiclosed reason for your lunacy that you can't reveal, then it better be really good. ....chill....suspect. Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 01:12 Navillus wrote:On July 07 2011 01:08 Drazerk wrote:
Caller is a baller and I am not worthy of worshipping him
All right with that out of the way, I completely agree with palmar we shouldn't be nuking as we have to remember conspirators / Scum will fire nukes off if they are about to be lynched in retaliation. as and so the world radiation will rise every time we lynch one which could lead to a terrible situation.
After Mataza I have made it clear who I think should be lynched ( Syllo / Ciryandor Read my previous reasons as for why ) Ok I was willing to go for nuking mataza but that wasn't actually a must, I just want to keep to policy so ignore my vote for the nuke. ##Vote: Mataza Suspect as hell... Useless On July 07 2011 14:51 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 14:49 chaos13 wrote:On July 07 2011 14:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 07 2011 13:07 OriginalName wrote:
I stand corrected. I <3 caller cuz he generally isn't too banlist friendly... xD Also...I've finally got caught up, and now work at 7 a.m.....its fucking almost 2.... -_-... Decoundo screams scum. Navilus too. We seem to agree on those two. TAA, sandroba, Palmar, Navillus, deconduo and heist are all people I would like to see hang. Eh....It just took me forever to read through the thread...My bad but 66 pages in....fucking no time. Useless On July 08 2011 07:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 06:28 Caller wrote:On July 08 2011 06:22 Drazerk wrote:On July 08 2011 06:20 Mig wrote:
When does night end? This is a caller game... It may never end Someone find a monk and shoot him it could end with me killing all of you nice claim by the way i'll use that in a later game He kept it up so well lmao. Useless On July 08 2011 08:56 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Not enough talking...
Decoundo's name has died down again. Reasons I find him to be scum are his general lack of posts which is consistent with:
A. Being scum.
B. Not wanting to get nuked.
Kid's scum. Maybe if you actually had somnething less hypocritical and wrong, this wouldn't be a useless post. However, its useless On July 08 2011 09:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Navillus...A question to you also....Whom in the town do you feel is scum?
And between GMarshal, YM?  On July 08 2011 09:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 22:35 deconduo wrote:
~OPZ~ where are you. Stop lurking so hard and dropping votes without talking. YOUR THE LIL BUGGER THAT POINTED ME OUT FOR THAT...omg...I was trying to find that person and call them scum. Lmao...and there you are. Okay, I had a very good reason as to why I wasn't around...Work + Lana being around = Me not being around for Mafia. Minus her, I'm plenty open with time. Now...as to why I was going to call this person scum. I had just posted saying I wasn't going to be around. No body has pressured me to talk, give my opinion on anything, despite him pointing this out. This wasn't even pressure. This was pointing out that I was trying to stave off modkill until my ex left town and I could reapproach my normal everyday life. Last I checked I actually posted that something happened before I voted...AMIRITE?! Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 22:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Ill b around later if plans gp right
Sry something happened
sidenote. Palmars nuke plan is best. Don't. -_-... Anyway, back to what I was saying. What have you done EXCEPT point me out for voting? Attempting to quickly bus me, or hope someone else noticed I was "actively" lurking and would try and push what you said? You damn sure didn't do anything other than say my name and hope for someone else to notice. Also, deconduo has been wanting Sandroba dead for a while. He was fine with the nuke on him. He was fine jumping at the "scumslip." He has done nothing useful, except translate for Kurumi...Who could possibly be scum fake claiming have to post in Polish. He talks about people lurking, but has 3 posts beginning along the lines of "...This is what I come back to?" Kid's scum. ~OPZ~ second post in the game that has any bit of relevence and thought put into it. Shame its complete bullshit. On July 08 2011 09:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 09:05 deconduo wrote:On July 08 2011 08:56 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Not enough talking...
Decoundo's name has died down again. Reasons I find him to be scum are his general lack of posts which is consistent with:
A. Being scum.
B. Not wanting to get nuked.
Kid's scum. Sup. ~OPZ~ 13 posts since game started deconduo 29 posts since game started I was actually hoping you would post after I called you out, so I could call you out on actively lurking. Useless On July 08 2011 09:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 09:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 08 2011 09:05 deconduo wrote:On July 08 2011 08:56 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Not enough talking...
Decoundo's name has died down again. Reasons I find him to be scum are his general lack of posts which is consistent with:
A. Being scum.
B. Not wanting to get nuked.
Kid's scum. Sup. ~OPZ~ 13 posts since game started deconduo 29 posts since game started I was actually hoping you would post after I called you out, so I could call you out on actively lurking. EBWOP: I was actually hoping you would post after I called you out, so I could call you out on actively lurking, hence the SLIGHT accusation, followed by a much better one after you post. Good call? Scum. Useless On July 08 2011 09:51 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 09:32 deconduo wrote:On July 08 2011 09:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 06 2011 22:35 deconduo wrote:
~OPZ~ where are you. Stop lurking so hard and dropping votes without talking. YOUR THE LIL BUGGER THAT POINTED ME OUT FOR THAT...omg...I was trying to find that person and call them scum. Lmao...and there you are. Okay, I had a very good reason as to why I wasn't around...Work + Lana being around = Me not being around for Mafia. Minus her, I'm plenty open with time. Now...as to why I was going to call this person scum. I had just posted saying I wasn't going to be around. No body has pressured me to talk, give my opinion on anything, despite him pointing this out. This wasn't even pressure. This was pointing out that I was trying to stave off modkill until my ex left town and I could reapproach my normal everyday life. Last I checked I actually posted that something happened before I voted...AMIRITE?! On July 06 2011 22:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Ill b around later if plans gp right
Sry something happened
sidenote. Palmars nuke plan is best. Don't. -_-... Anyway, back to what I was saying. What have you done EXCEPT point me out for voting? Attempting to quickly bus me, or hope someone else noticed I was "actively" lurking and would try and push what you said? You damn sure didn't do anything other than say my name and hope for someone else to notice. Also, deconduo has been wanting Sandroba dead for a while. He was fine with the nuke on him. He was fine jumping at the "scumslip." He has done nothing useful, except translate for Kurumi...Who could possibly be scum fake claiming have to post in Polish. He talks about people lurking, but has 3 posts beginning along the lines of "...This is what I come back to?" Kid's scum. Night it not the time for discussion, I ALWAYS post at night. Have a look at any game I've played ever before jumping to conclusions. Regarding sandroba, yes I have no problem if he dies tonight. In fact I would be quite happy if everyone that launched a nuke yesterday died. Sandroba has been scummy as hell. I've been posting, you haven't. In fact I'd guess theres 6 people who have less than 10 posts. You're goddamn right I can complain about lurkers. I was fine with Sandroba's death too. AFTER he was scummy as hell. You were seemingly fine the instant he even posted about mafia KP. Don't use the fact he's been scummy to cover up your own scumminess and general uselessness. His pregame discussion and early day one posting were pretty instrumental in town policy creation and discussion. No. I'm not going to read through your previous games. I've played with you, I don't need to. But now that you said that you always post at night...Actively lurking much? Scum more likely to be doing that then townie. You're a good lynch buddy. Look at it from my perspective. You'll agree. I'll respond to this in a bit On July 08 2011 11:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:
JeeJee how do you feel about Deconduo? Useless On July 08 2011 23:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Oh hai deconduo! Useless On July 09 2011 01:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 00:12 deconduo wrote:
Relying solely on nameclaims is dumb, but completely dismissing them as useless information is just bad. We need to be looking at everything, claims, play, meta, any dt checks etc. You can't just automatically say that someone is town because they nameclaimed (see: cultists) but you can't ignore the claims either. Another useless post by deconduo. Useless
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On July 08 2011 23:46 GMarshal wrote:
@Zona, my explanation is not everchanging, I thought I was going to die because I misread my role PM.
What reason did you have to think you were going to die? Didn't you fire an anti-nuke to save yourself? Unless you anticipated your anti-nuke wasn't going to work, you wouldn't have worried about getting killed off.
On July 09 2011 01:11 chaos13 wrote:
Today should be much better though with operation Watchtower.
Wait, watchtower passed? I thought dunkirk won by a fair amount.
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[QUOTE]On July 09 2011 01:43 kitaman27 wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 08 2011 23:46 GMarshal wrote:
@Zona, my explanation is not everchanging, I thought I was going to die because I misread my role PM. [/QUOTE]
What reason did you have to think you were going to die? Didn't you fire an anti-nuke to save yourself? Unless you anticipated your anti-nuke wasn't going to work, you wouldn't have worried about getting killed off.
I fired an anti-nuke at the missile targeting mataza. I didn't feel like arguing about my innocence for the next 3 days, so I was willing to take the nuke and save someone I thought was town.
Things didn't work out that way.
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ugh, messed up the Quote tags. -__-
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Let's put aside our differences for just a few minutes and temporarily raise our voices in unison.
Axis, Allies, zombies, Conspirator (maybe not, u dead), aliens, cult, and whatever the fuck else Caller has put into this game, hold hands and shout with me:
WHERE MY DAY POST?!??!
##Vote: Caller
+ Show Spoiler +jk Caller you da best plz no modkill have funs at work
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Lol calling you out and PROVING youre actively lurking isn't useless
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On July 09 2011 01:55 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Lol calling you out and PROVING youre actively lurking isn't useless
I always lurk at night. I said so. You seem to think its relevent, but no one else cares.
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So, decon, Opz, who is your number 1 scum read at this point in the game?
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On July 09 2011 02:10 GMarshal wrote:
So, decon, Opz, who is your number 1 scum read at this point in the game?
GGQ. He's usually active, and he's been lurking even more than OPZ. Like OPZ, the moment I called him out for lurking he FOSed me.
He's also been active elsewhere in the forums.
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Nadal muszę pisać po polsku -_- Idę grać w S.T.A.L.K.E.R-a, kłócicie się teraz o byle co. Wszystkie raporty o posiadaniu jakiejś roli lub imienia powinny być brane Z OGROMNYM SCEPTYZMEM! W końcu gramy w zamkniętym ustawieniu, co prawda poznajemy po części rola i imiona po śmierci.. Ale straszliwie łatwo coś wymyśleć!
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On July 09 2011 02:45 Kurumi wrote:
Nadal muszę pisać po polsku -_- Idę grać w S.T.A.L.K.E.R-a, kłócicie się teraz o byle co. Wszystkie raporty o posiadaniu jakiejś roli lub imienia powinny być brane Z OGROMNYM SCEPTYZMEM! W końcu gramy w zamkniętym ustawieniu, co prawda poznajemy po części rola i imiona po śmierci.. Ale straszliwie łatwo coś wymyśleć!
Don't make me bring out 20 new posting restrictions for myself. I will do it.
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Is it normal for hosts, or Caller in particular, around here to provide safe fake claims for scum?
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On July 09 2011 02:53 syllogism wrote:
Is it normal for hosts, or Caller in particular, around here to provide safe fake claims for scum?
Its been done before, usually in setups where a massclaim is broken.
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