I fully claimed already.I'm COMRADE UMADIMIR LENEN of the CCCP I'm a zombie, I win with the allies. That's all. I don't care if you want me hanged. If I don't die tonight I'll make sure I provide suficient analysis that town stands a chance in this big mess.

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July 08 2011 07:02 GMT

#1532

Also that's supposedly a transmition from aliens, which I had no previous knowledge of. I have no night kp btw. Besides the amount of nukes I have that's all my pm contains.

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July 08 2011 07:19 GMT

#1534

Yo YM, since you are here, care to explain how the nuke aimed at you ended up on palmar?

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July 08 2011 08:09 GMT

#1536

K, I can safely assume it was scum who changed the course of that missile. Palmar was about to get lynched so makes no sense for town to changed a nuke to him. Their objective was to eliminate Mataza by him getting lynched instead of Palmar and possibly drazerk if he was telling the truth and palmar was the only conspirator.

[green]Does the text regarding mataza's death is just flavor or did he get nuked instead of lynched[green]

What makes this move really worth it for scum though, is if YM is scum. They not only eliminate possibly 2 more player, but also save one of their own. It would be a waste not to use it that way.
I know that YM use his anti on me and that gets him townie points, but his explanation as to why was pretty sketchy, since he himself claimed he wasn't sure I wasn't scum. Why waste your anti-nukes so early on to protect a player you theoretically "don't know isn't scum".
The only logical answer to that question is to buy town cred. Who wants to do that? Scum.

Let's take a look at what really happened imo. YM used his anti-nukes on me because he felt like I was the most viewed as townie by the vast majority. Somehow town fails to see how townie I am and YM's plan kinda backfires, specially when I decide to nuke GM, which he was saying was scum too, and to save face he says "I'm not sure sandroba isn't scum lol". If you used an anti-nuke on me this early you needed to be pretty sure I was town don't you agree? Also the fact that I nuked your main suspect of being scum should only reinforce this notion no?
Instead now when people start questioning on why he did it, he does not provide ANY answer and claims he's not sure I'm town. How does that make any sense?

Now let's look at YM's posting so far. He has a trillion posts and no content at all. 95% of those are one liners, the rest are 3 liners with roleplay. That's that complete oposite way he normally plays as town. He usually comes in with analysis every day (even if it's not always accurate) and is very agressive. This game he is completely "flying under the radar" as Palmar described.

Then we get to the point where YM nuked mataza. He claimed it was because he mistakenly believed mataza nuked GM, which moments later he called scum and his main lynch target. WTF?You think a guy nuked someone you think is scum and you NUKE HIM BACK? How does that make any resemblance of sense?
So people start calling him out on it then he retracts that it was a mistake and says it doesn't matter the target which mataza nuked, he wanted to nuke mataza anyway.

Your actions don't add up and the only thing that's keeping me from calling you scum for sure is the fact that you used an anti-nuke on me for whatever reason even you fail to identify. I'll be watching you closely from now on.

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July 08 2011 08:09 GMT

#1537

EBWOP
Does the text regarding mataza's death is just flavor or did he get nuked instead of lynched

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July 08 2011 08:12 GMT

#1538

I also noticed you claimed boreritish, care to share your name?

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July 08 2011 08:37 GMT

#1541

LOL fuck, somehow I missed that. Forget about my whole analysis then, that claim is too good to be fake.

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July 08 2011 11:39 GMT

#1548

LOL at your logic. Sure scum wants to atract as much attention as possible!

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July 08 2011 12:05 GMT

#1550

Stop saying wifom for every thing. That's not wifom. That's optimal scum behaviour to meet their win conditions. Sure they can behave in other ways that make them more likely to be found suspicious but that's normally a bad move for them, and assuming they are making bad moves to justifying someone being scum is not particularly effective.
I had my own reasons to suspect YM too, but since he claimed the name of his leader and it makes sense I find it extremelly unlikely he's scum right now.

sandroba

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July 08 2011 12:07 GMT

#1551

Also read your previous post and ask yourself why YM would do that as scum.

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July 09 2011 00:09 GMT

#1639

OMG, are you people all blind? So you guys think I'm scum and fake claimed ZOMBIE and I'm not immune to nukes????? Go ahead and nuke me if you like, you are only raising the radiation lvl.
Also I did not nuke GM "for no reason". I had plenty of reason, and I explained it already.

Now let me tell you about the objective of this game for town. It's to kill scum. It's not to kill the most controversial player, the player that broke policy or the one you don't like. Ask yourselves if you trully believe I'm scum and why scum would bother to do everything I did and to draw as much attention as I did. Discussing policies on the begining is very good way to produce information and to try to come up with strategy, but this game is dinamic and not always the best move is to blindly follow the rules you agreed upon, you have to adapt. What use would it be if we all agreed to lynch mataza day1? huh? 0 relevant info towards the lynch. Stop wasting your time.
@GM you are being thick headed as fuck, care to let go of my balls and help me find scum in hiding while we keep going at each other?

sandroba

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July 09 2011 06:27 GMT

#1729

I learned to never question my own analysis again. Feel free to lynch me if you want.
Nuke: Youngminii

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July 09 2011 06:38 GMT

#1740

I don't know why he anti nuked me. At this point I can see how suspicious I might be since he protected me. Feel free to nuke or lynch me as you see fit, cuz I don't want to waste any more of town's time discussing me. If nuking me would satisfy you I advise it since it's unlikely scum would waste a anti-nuke on me knowing that I'm immortal. But anyway, you guys know what's best. Whenever I'm sober again (~24hours) I'm gonna post analysis nailing most of the scum team.

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July 09 2011 06:40 GMT

#1741

@chaos why the hell didn't you counter claim his ass? Way to go man.

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July 09 2011 06:42 GMT

#1743

On July 09 2011 15:28 Mig wrote:
Sandroba if YM flips red why do you think he saved you with his anti nuke?

Look at my analysis of YM and that should tell you why he saved me. Anyway his claim was good, that's the only thing that changed my mind and I blaim chaos for not counter claiming him. Idc if you guys choose to lynch me today, but I'll make sure I'll take at least 2 scum with me.

sandroba

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July 09 2011 06:46 GMT

#1746

Oh, and I am in fact a zombie. If my sarcasm was undetected last post I apologize. I'm town aligned and that's all my pm says, besides the number of nukes I got. Right now we've killed 3 town 0 scum. I want to win and I don't care who we lose to if we don't, so nuking to waste mafia's resources is the way to go. My guess would be that radiation limit is >10 so we have to use that to our advantage, while we are behind and scum has no incentive for nuking.

sandroba

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July 09 2011 06:48 GMT

#1747

I'm not martyring, I want to live, but since YM (confirmed scum) chose to protect me I can see how that would make me suspicious.

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July 09 2011 06:50 GMT

#1748

Note that the nuke never landed i YM, it changed target. Look at my analysis of YM before I was told of his claim and it explains everything =P

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