I don't think nuking Mataza is the right course of action for policy enforcement. If he has multiple lives then it's just going to add more radiation into the atmosphere, something that the policy itself is supposed to help avoid.

With Caller stating that extra lives do absorb nukes it's best to proceed with lynches being the only surefire way to off someone. It's nice that we have that "second lynch" but it's far from a sure thing with multiple lives, antimissiles, players that may be nuke immune, and anything else devious that Caller can think of.

Right now I feel like the argument falls into whether we think a policy lynch is worth giving scum an easy bandwagon to hitch on to. Of course we need to enforce the policy if we want to use that policy. Mataza's weak defense and actions show that he is either:

1) Really reckless
Which is terrible for whichever side he may be on

or

2) Unafraid to be lynched or nuked due to his role

I don't think there's a lynch survivor power as that's pretty ridiculous so I'd really like to see what Mataza's actual motive is.

Ciryandor's defense is either a scumtell or a noobtell and both are pretty bad for Town. Once again, I'd give benefit of the doubt for now.

Remember that Palmar essentially did the same thing Mataza is doing now except he claimed his was a dud while Mataza has not done so. His actions have even less motive though as they couldn't possibly do anything but hurt town whereas Mataza may actually think sandroba is scum/Conspirator.

sinani still hasn't given any explanation for himself and everyone seems to have forgotten about him. To me his posting is the most scummy out of anyone but actions > words and we have two people right now who have launched nukes/duds.

Whether or not to let the nuke on sandroba depends on the read that whoever has animissiles has gotten on him. If he is scum then surely one of his scumbuddies will save him unless they know he can take the hit. His biggest misstep so far has been that (thus far unconfirmed) scumslip and the rest of his posts have been either advocating his policy or tunneling Palmar and giving nothing on anyone else.

...and now we have even more of a clusterfuck with youngminii's nuke. Do we policy lynch him too? That's going to make reading scum even more difficult. I don't think this policy is going to work too well despite its good intentions.

Kurumi

Poland6130 Posts

July 06 2011 16:55 GMT

#648

0:23

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

July 06 2011 16:56 GMT

#649

you know, i know i nuked mataza and all
but i agree with his philosophy of the game... somewhat
i mean at least this way i'm not nuking a random for no reason right? ^_^_^_^_^

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

July 06 2011 16:56 GMT

#650

palmar i love you so much right now

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

July 06 2011 16:57 GMT

#651

And now I need to change my post to THREE people who have launched nukes. In case anyone is confused the first part of my previous post was typed before YM's nuke and that last paragraph after the nuke.

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

July 06 2011 16:58 GMT

#652

YMs nuke is the most pro town nuke possible. I still would appreciate somone to save Sandy. After all hes done nothing wrong and we have to keep the WLR in mind.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 06 2011 16:59 GMT

#653

When is the lynch

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

July 06 2011 17:00 GMT

#654

12 hours from now

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 06 2011 17:01 GMT

#655

On July 07 2011 02:00 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
12 hours from now

That's what the previous post said and no way a nuke that was launched after that 12h period ended would extend is again. I imagine the previous post was simply wrong

OriginalName

Canada1140 Posts

July 06 2011 17:04 GMT

#656

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 07 2011 01:53 Caller wrote:

Show nested quote +

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!

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Youngminii's Missile will strike Mataza at around 13:43 KST!

CnC Generals <3

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

July 06 2011 17:06 GMT

#657

On July 07 2011 01:58 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
I still would appreciate somone to save Sandy..

done

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

July 06 2011 17:13 GMT

#658

Nothing we can do but sit this one out. There is absolutely no way to control a stupid rampaging town we can only hope that somehow they are right which I think there is like 0% chance of. I can only see one single simple solution to this: We nuke youngminii on a majority and hope that somehow they're all scum.

This is the only way town can get situation back under control that doesn't require wasting tons of lynches or some anti-nuke roleclaim crazy stuff that's probably gonna backfire.

I vote to nuke youngminii and then I vote to nuke everybody who casts nukes without majority backing it up.

On the radiation level, yea it sucks but radiation level 4 is not win the game for conspirator if it helps us getting shit under control.