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On June 26 2011 19:23 Palmar wrote: /in Compulsive Vigilante reporting in! | ||
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On June 26 2011 23:16 Varpulis wrote: I fear for our detectives.... Expect me to mix up Sinani201 and sinani206 often. I request that people do not refer to either of them as sinani, because that could get seriously confusing. Lets call them Henry VI and Edward I. | ||
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On June 28 2011 00:24 chaos13 wrote: We should start this game soon. I'm really looking forward to it Seconded. I feel the need to | ||
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1. I do have a question GMarshal. Why is it that this post STRONGLY reminds me of this? Your campaign speech as a mafioso in XXXVIII, just like your first ingame post for this game, was prepared for right after the start of the day. You made a HUGE deal about lurkers last time and your posting in this game has diverted town directly into a lurker discussion straight away. I am keeping my eye on you Mr! 2. On June 28 2011 12:21 Sinani201 wrote: You're already voting for me? First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201. Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely. I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute. This little exchange confuses me. Why was it necessary to do this? Scumbuddies I wonder, trying to keep each other from being lurker targets? This early matey stuff reminds me of Irish_Punk13 in XXXIX. We all know what alignment he ended up flipping. Voting Edward the 1st. 3. Chaos13 brings up the point of a pro-town atmosphere. What does this actually mean? Not spamming? This term has been used a fair bit already with noone really explaining how we are supposed to go about doing it. | ||
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On June 28 2011 14:38 GMarshal wrote: A pro-town atmosphere is one in which it is possible to scumhunt and read the thread without having to wade through crap. Its explained in Ver's town guide, but basically it means no mud flinging, no beating dead horses, avoiding unjustified OMGUS and generally behaving as gentlemen towards each other. If we do this we can generate and use information, it will also encourage newer posters to post. Thats the theory at least ^_^ To achieve this don't random FoS, treat even stupid ideas with respect (shoot them down, but theres no need to say "God you moron, you suck" just shoot it down) and behave in a way that makes people *want* to post and listen to what you have to say. Also that post you pointed out is also similar to my post in the first 4 min of Closed Casket Mafia . Its a stylistic choice, and I really like the pictures of the grim reaper (not to mention I have like 12 I had ready for CCM, but then I was killed... ;_;) . Plus I hate lurkers, and I needed a conversation starter, so I chose to talk about them. Any other questions? Ok thanks for clearing that up for me. Beating dead horses I can agree with, as with behaving like gentlemen and mud flinging. If you eliminate unjusitified OMGUS votes my entire town play just disappeared, I always just attack people who call me and other relative newcomers bad lol. I hadn't seen the Closed Casket game, fair enough. Get back to reaping sir! What do you think about the exchange between Henry VI and Edward I? | ||
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On June 28 2011 14:53 GMarshal wrote: I haven't read anything sinister into it, as I see it the Sinani twins are close friends, and to me it looks like casual banter/poking fun. It might be revealing later, when I have a stronger read on them, but as of right now I just see it as two pals fooling around. You've made your opinion of their exchange clear. What do you think of VisceraEyes being so upset at you being included as a "vet" in my list? Have you formed an opinion about ym yet, if so, what is it? ? I can't find anything Viscera said about me. He got upset about Palmar being on the list. Could you link me? I see youngminii as being the same as he was in Surprisingly Normal Mini 3, aggressive and pushing people. His thinking on you mirrored my own, to be honest. On June 28 2011 11:57 youngminii wrote: Good post GMarshal, I wasn't aware scum were targeting lurkers too this game. It's almost as if they're a 3rd party faction. I like how you make a giant warning against lurkers when the game itself is designed to punish them. And hiro for immediately backing you. YM is correct I feel on his analysis of the plan. Telling Mafia precisely what to do to avoid being shot isn't really a good idea imo. On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote: Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. I see someone who is known for being aggressive putting pressure on people. My early call on youngminii is town. | ||
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On June 28 2011 14:38 GMarshal wrote: A pro-town atmosphere is one in which it is possible to scumhunt and read the thread without having to wade through crap. Its explained in Ver's town guide, but basically it means no mud flinging, no beating dead horses, avoiding unjustified OMGUS and generally behaving as gentlemen towards each other. If we do this we can generate and use information, it will also encourage newer posters to post. Thats the theory at least ^_^ This is a bit contradictory dude. What else about AwesomeAll makes you suspicious of him, other than that he directly disagreed with and voted for you? On June 28 2011 16:25 GMarshal wrote: Sure thing. Please post a more coherent argument. Let me reply to what you have 1.) Duh, anyone with a braincell should have known LSB was town. 2.) I thought of a *similar* plan, but I couldn't (still can't) think of a way to make use of it without having DTs claim. I am against ousting blue roles. 3.) Yes I am. I made my case why, and you should understand it. Vigis have a lurker only KP, they might as well use it, no? All lurkers are traitors, by definition. Ace said it best in my first game, I think, kill scum, and those who will not help you kill scum (not an exact quote, but I don't feel like looking it up) 4.) He admitted to fucking up with the medic thing, because he thought scum had 1 kp. If I think someone is scum I call them out on it. I just think YM is playing poorly, but not necessarily scummy. remember what we said about bad plans? Hell I missed that he made a posts about medics till you pointed it out and I had to go back and check. I don't see your case, but if you bring up any new points I will gladly answer them, so far it seems to me that you are dead set on me being mafia for some reason. I won't appeal to meta, but my alignment should be evident by now. Regarding point 3. How is using town KP to kill bored townies good? The LSB hit has brought a few things to light: - Medics should have protected someone they think is town already by now. The really early LSB shot shows that Mafia are underway with planning already. Any delay in choosing a Medic protect is detrimental. Their shots have to be used today so get protecting sooner rather than later! - Mafia are killing lurkers too. LSB hardly posted before he was shot. I don't think we should be trying to lynch lurkers, let the detectives, mafia and vigis take care of that. - Scum don't want to be on the detective checklists so they will increase their activity. What we should be doing is looking at people who have increased their activity compared to normal, not like we normally do in finding people who try to hide more. | ||
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He originally set me off with his first several posts all being one-liners all directed at his mate. He has easily had the most pointless contribution so far. His largest post is this: On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote: Pro-Town atmosphere would ideally be:
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost. As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are. Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this. Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind. That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks! This makes no sense to me at all. You are actively saying that we should kill people who try and lead the town and you also want to kill people who are lurking. Not only this, scum hunting is bona-fide town leadership! What middle ground do you want people to fill? Let's look at this again. On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote: [*]No taking lead. Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum They probably aren't scum but we should kill them anyway. Right. This post is a whole lot of nothing. FoS Henry VI. | ||
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On June 28 2011 21:21 Palmar wrote: I disagree DropBear. This couldn't be any more clear. We have a requirement to post actively and work pro-town in this game. We actually have a specific mechanic to help us identify the people that aren't actively posting. Being on the lurker list is not pro-town. Any town people on the list should really be banned for game-throwing, but aside from that, they should be shot. They should not be DT checked, reserve that for players who actually post but look scummy. And of course medics should already be thinking about their targets, but don't you dare try to direct the medics or I'll hang you. Take it those who deserve it, if you're town, and you end up on the lurker list, you're trying to lose, you're gamethrowing intentionally, you're ruining the game and I hope I never have to play with you again. Obviously, this hopefully won't be a problem, because any town trying to win the game will NOT be on the lurker list, and thus the mafia are forced to not be on it either. All I want for Christmas is an empty lurker list. Shape up people, get posting. And GM, even though I agree with you about lynching lurkers, DropBear's question about your OMGUS vote really needs answering. Why the hell should we trust someone who can't even follow his own policies? Being on the lurker list gives you double the chance to be dt checked, plus double the chance of being vigi'd. What sort of Mafia is going to be stupid enough to be on it? They are already forced to come out into the open. Anyone who IS on the lurker list is in fact MORE likely to be town. | ||
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On June 28 2011 21:37 Palmar wrote: No one should be on the lurker list. Of course the mafia isn't going to be there. But there is no reason for town to be there either. you dig? I agree. Noone should be on it. That was the point. We look at people who are much more active than usual. | ||
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I'm not even remotely convinced on syllogism from what's been said so far. Someone show me a decent case. We currently have youngminii and AwesomeAll on him. On June 29 2011 00:05 youngminii wrote: syllogism he hasn't posted squat worth anything, all he's done is give a pretty damn blanket post regarding the setup his only real post in this thread is a bunch of "blues you should do this, but then maybe not because of that, but then you should be keeping this in mind... oh and we should avoid wifom" however, basically everything he has said creates wifom AND he's just lacing the thread with his 'content' posts without any scumhunting whatsoever, just making a post here and there very suspicious to me, much more so than sinani206 The first couple of pages were all people talking about what blues should do. Why choose syllogism out of all of them? He isn't really differentiated. On June 29 2011 00:31 youngminii wrote: You're right. Let's just all post blanket statements since there's clearly nothing we can do on Day 1. Orrrrrr we can actually do something and maybe that will be cause for analysis for LATER and give us information for LATER. What do you think of GMarshal? Do you think TAA has any justification in his accusations? On June 29 2011 01:26 TheAwesomeAll wrote: YM and Syllo stop arguing with each other, you arent producing anything. Who are you talking about? What do you think? cast your vote? You are soft defending him, like really really soft. Almost as if you dont want to be associated with him if he were to turn red. Dont do that . Also you are playing so defensive what was that post about, who is accusing you? There isn't much here either from AwesomeAll. Dude you are one of the ones he's defending himself against TAA. He's just said he doesn't find anything enough to go on, which is fair enough. I disagree, but it's fair enough. You say they aren't doing anything by arguing, then you go right ahead and attack one of them lol. This is just contradictions dude. I need something a little more concrete before I'm prepared to join you two on this. We still haven't really heard from OpZ, gtsrs, aprudds, Kenpachi, Rean, Mig, Eiii. Start talking fellas. Marshal I want an explanation about your OMGUS. | ||
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On June 29 2011 02:24 Mig wrote: The case against sinani is unbelievably weak. He has been useless every game he has played but he has been a lot more active this game than when he was mafia. I am suspicious of anyone who just insta jumped on his bw, palmar/db/draz/jackal. Jackal especially looks incredibly suspicious to me. Jackal is a very good vet and he has played the last couple of games with sinani and knows how bad he is. Yet he comes in posts a very short attack of sinani votes and disappears wtf? Where is the normal jackal who actually is active and puts pressure on people? Awesome I disagree with the GM lynch. I think GM has been trying to be pro town and when I have seen him play mafia in the past he is rarely this outspoken and active. This basically seems like GM town play 101. There are way better targets for a day 1 lynch than someone who is as active as him. Dude saying that sinani's a lot more active isn't a town tell at all. Noone wants to be on that lurker list. It's not activity we are looking at, it's much more about content. Why do you disagree with GM being Mafia? What do you mean by pro-town? Who are these better targets for day 1 you speak of? | ||
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@ SINANI206 On June 29 2011 02:22 sinani206 wrote: I never said we should kill the leaders. I said that if they do happen to be Mafia, it's ㅈㅈ already. I'm telling players not to take lead because of this. I didn't say to kill leaders, I said to not become one. Dude this makes absolutely no sense to me at all. What's the point of saying "if Mafia is in control we are in trouble"? It's kind of..... blatantly obvious. This defence doesn't reduce my suspicions of you in the slightest. You still haven't said anything at all except reference your buddy and this wierdness. My vote is staying where it is. @ GMARSHAL On June 29 2011 02:41 GMarshal wrote: It wasn't OMGUS, as far as I'm concerned, he said "I'm keeping my eye on GM", but I voted for him because I felt like his post was 1.) Cynic and bashing our efforts thus far 2.) Weak as hell, he had an accusation of hiro, but no vote and about two lines of reasoning. Now I happen to agree with him, but I wanted to see him commit to voting hiro, to see how serious he is. Remember a mafia trait is to start wagons without committing to them. I wanted to see commitment. His reaction was interesting, but not damning, and he did vote for hiro, which assuaged some of my doubts, but I want to keep my vote on him till there is somewhere better to put it. Sorry I went to bed, any other questions? As for the person who said that promising analysis is scummy, its only scummy when you don't deliver, I will, its just I like to dedicate most of day 1 to information gathering. ^_^ (and TAA, I love smilies, I use them a lot. See experimental mafia II for other "cutesy" things I like, I'm very eccentric ) So what if he's cynical about what's been said? If you disagree then one needs to speak up. He hasn't just fucked shit up and left, he's been out there hunting like crazy. You wanted him to commit..... On June 28 2011 16:58 TheAwesomeAll wrote: ##Vote: hiro protagonist And he did. What's the problem here? Your vote has lost it's justification Marshal. Not only this, you agree with him on hiro, but you want to leave your vote on TAA. What gives brudda? Based on what's happened so far, I like both sinani206 and GMarshal as lynch candidates. | ||
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@MIG On June 29 2011 03:01 Mig wrote: Sinani has been useless every game he has played why is he more useless/scummy this game? Look at his first game as mafia he attempted to fake contribute heavily to stay under the radar. I haven't really seen him do any of that. The better targets day 1 I think are guys like Jackal who aren't contributing and are playing out of character or someone like Eiii who promises to be pro town and contribute his thoughts then goes right back to lurking without actually providing any content. No no active definitely does not just equal town, but I mean in general I would prefer to lynch someone less active day 1 because as long as GM is alive he is going to be active and so we are going to have a ton of information to use to determine whether he is town or mafia. Hm I do agree though that GM's case against you is incredibly weak. But I will wait to see how he follows up on it before instantly declaring him scum for it. I will say that If GM continues with just posting pro town advice and not any actual good analysis and scum hunting I would be willing to change my opinion about him. First on sinani, you say he has a history about fake contributing as a mafia to blend in. Where are his real contributions this game that distinguish him from this game you mentioned? Jackal has made a grand total of ONE post so far. How can you possibly make a behaviour call based on a single post? It's way too early to do that. You scare me Mr Mig! aprudds please reconsider your vote on TAA. He is being very overenthusiastic yes but there's very low chance he's mafia. He's prodding everyone he thinks is dodgy and is going out of his way to generate discussion. | ||
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On June 29 2011 03:10 GMarshal wrote: I'll move my vote to hiro. When I feel its time. I thought something was off about TAA, and I thought having a vote on him might make him squirm. He hasn't quite twiched the way I expected, which is good, so I will move my vote off, eventually, as of right now Im curious as to the uproar its causing. . I made my vote based on his initial post, and I still feel like it was justified. Why are you so upset about my vote though? Its only one vote, and you *know* how I like to move my vote around day 1. Why aren't you bothered by any of the *other* votes in the thread? And lynching one of the most active players day 1 is as retarded as it gets, you lynch a mid tier activity player, one who is posting without calling attention to himself. I've called out you for voting him, youngminii for voting syllogism, aprudds for voting TAA. I'm not worried about any of the sinani votes cos I think he's dodgy as hell. The fact that's it's only one vote is completely irrelevant Marshal. It's the reasoning behind it that worries me, it's pretty much non-existent. You continue to say "because I just feel hell good about him". You aren't stupid enough to make a claim like that if you are a DT and have checked him so you don't have any other reason to come out and say why. As for your last comment, that's why I choose sinani over you | ||
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As far as I can tell, you never really attacked Marshal in the first place. The only thing I can find is this and it's not exactly a wild accusation. On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote: Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive ) What's the deal with the big claim of changing your mind? You never really attacked him. Plus you decide GMarshal is not scum based on hiro's posts? DOES NOT COMPUTE explain plz | ||
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On June 29 2011 03:48 Palmar wrote: On the contrary DropBear, I don't find him overenthusiastic at all. I really like TAA's playstyle and I think he's doing more to help us than anyone else at the moment. So GM and TAA agree on Hiro Protagonist. What I can tell you about Hiro's meta is that he's usually quite reserved, both as scum and as town. His borderline spam post style in this game is a new thing for me, but it could both be an attempt at improving his town game, or it could be him trying to distance himself from the quiet playstyle he's displayed as mafia. All in all, I kind of like the vote on him. Sinani206 will you please make some kind of a contribution? Can you point us in the direction of a scummy player? ???????? Dude. Hiro's been reserved as both scum and town in the past, but he's distancing himself from his quiet playstyle of mafia? Isn't that distancing himself from his town play as well? How can you tell the difference? Marshal you are attacking him DESPITE THE FACT HIS VERY FIRST POST WAS TO CARBON COPY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. Hiro hasn't shown me anything dodgy yet at all. | ||
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On June 29 2011 04:03 GMarshal wrote: Its not *that* he agreed, but how he went about agreeing with me. "I 100% agree" adds nothing new to the discussion, while he could have made new points or explained his reasoning. That is what bothers me, not the agreement. Its really easy to say "I agree", harder to actually contribute arguments. My beef with him isn't what he has said, its what he *hasn't* said, which is anything that is new or controversial. Honestly I'm not sure of his alignment, but I want to be which is why I'm voting for him, to encourage him to make a case on someone else, or a contribution, anything I can use to figure him out really. You say stuff and he agrees with you. Isn't the whole point of this game to try and get people convinced... if you vote to lynch everyone who agrees with you then you are gonna start getting ignored pretty fast dude He did go on and expand anyway. On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote: Sup town! I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that. so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate). Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense. Kill people as soon as a list comes up plus vig hit anyone who is being active. You want new and controversial, you got new and controversial. I think you and sinani are on a scum team together. As soon as hiro comes up as an alternative, which was brought up by TAA, you're jumping on. TOWN READS youngminii TheAwesomeAll syllogism SCUM READS sinani206 GMarshal Mig | ||
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On June 29 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote: Btw GM started the game out really strong. Are we ignoring the possibility of him being the mafia that TAA found? For a relatively new player like TAA (btw, don't be sad, you played well), checking the most outspoken person in the game sounds like a clever thing to do. I'm going to go back and have a look at the timings. Palmar, TAA can't have found a mafia. On June 25 2011 09:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Detective: You are a detective. You have two powers. Starting Day 1 you may choose to check a players role. Once the action is submitted, it takes you 12 hours to perform the investigation and you will receive your result 12 hours after the action is submitted. Is it really likely that he would have got a result back yet? I don't think so. The Drazerk bandwagon has formed with a speed I've never seen before. It scares me that he now has 12 votes and the next highest is 2. There has been absolutely zero opposition to it. Does this ring alarm bells for anybody else? | ||
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On June 29 2011 06:43 Vain wrote: Ok, now what do you guys think about chaos13? Nothing as yet I still think sinani206 is the way to go. He is leading the voting then suddenly all hell breaks lose trying to save him and now he's not even on the radar. Now that he isn't a lynch target anymore, noone is arguing about the lynch at all. Everything is fine and dandy. It's all one-way traffic. If you don't like my analysis, look at sandroba's. The only thing about Drazerk that concerns me right now is that massive post about how much he suddenly loves GMarshal. It was very out of the blue. Let's look at the arguments made by the people who actually voted for Drazerk before TAA's death and the subsequent rush. | ||
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Cthsazsa sinani201 Eiii Kenpachi Navillus Lanaia Other than Cthsasza who has been vocal and active, this little list is probably going to be a subset of Foolishness' lurker list. Cthsazsa while I disagree with you, you are trying much much harder than the fine folk who followed you. On June 29 2011 07:59 Sinani201 wrote: I agree. I just looked through Syllogism's posts. While they may not necessarily all of opinions in them, only two of them seem somewhat pointless, which isn't enough to warrant a lynch. Cthsazsa's analysis on Drazerk seems to be correct and I definitely think that he is scum. And thus, I place my vote. ##Vote: Drazerk I didn't actually understand that first sentence. But all you've done is accept everything Cthsazsa said without question and jumped right on the bandwagon. On June 29 2011 08:06 Eiii wrote: A agree with sandroba on this one-- though syll hasn't been super active or anything, none of his posts make me feel like he's trying hard to stay off the radar. After reading people's thoughts on drazerk and looking through his posts though, I can't say I get the same vibe from him. It even feels like people are trying to divert attention away from him at the moment, so that's where I'll hang my votehat for now. ##Vote: Drazerk This is weak Eiii. Very very weak. Who was diverting attention away from him exactly? His lynch was going ahead pretty much unopposed. This is completely incorrect. On June 29 2011 10:17 Kenpachi wrote: Pretty hardcore martyring. I use to rage when i martyred (when i was wee newbie too). makes you look more town. You are too calm to be town. ##Vote Drazerk Reasoning: 1) your martyring is terrible. 2) you're a calm martyr. Kenpachi's reason is because he isn't pissed off enough about being lynched and is based off his own behavioural tendencies. Not good reasoning in the slightest. On June 29 2011 11:02 Navillus wrote: I just caught up and agree with Cthsazsa's analysis but I particularly think that this is weird He suddenly not only doesn't think that GM is scum, but somehow came to the conclusion that he is a confirmed innocent, then lays it on pretty heavy And I actually think that this is him trying to pretend that he's all close with GM so if/when he flips red we attack GM deciding that they were together, the conclusion of this being: GM is probably town if Drazerk flips red. ##Vote Drazerk This is interesting and is the most legit reasoning of the bandwagoners by a country mile. We shall see what happens I guess. On June 29 2011 08:10 Lanaia wrote: Drazerk's been pretty jumpy and that's bothered me a lot. I will be voting one of him and hiro after I reread the thread after I finish cleaning my room. On June 29 2011 12:33 Lanaia wrote: I've reread this thread and have made my decision. Between Hiro and Drazerk, I feel Drazerk is less valuable to the town. I mean this in that we should lynch him over Hiro. Of course, everything I feel has already been said by others because they were obviously faster than me. I figured I'd inform you in this thread. Lanaia this doesn't make sense at all. What do you mean by jumpy and how does being jumpy make one mafia? Everything you feel has been said by others. People have been saying a lot of stuff! Which bits are those that you feel? You've carefully avoided giving any real reason at all. The extremely rapid bandwagon on Drazerk and the really poor reasoning presented for his lynch make me strongly feel that he's town. I'll be looking at some of these guys who jumped on him early. | ||
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I would like to hear your big case Viscera. I played with you in PTP and you attacked the hell out of people not this soft rubbish. | ||
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WHY EIII IS MAFIA Eiii has a grand total of 5 posts in the thread to date. He is a member of the alarmingly fast bandwagon on Drazerk. He starts off with a bang! :D On June 28 2011 11:54 Eiii wrote: ...I before E, except after C! unless that was intentional :D Wasn't that inspirational? Next is a brief attempt to get people to ignore Marshal. On June 28 2011 11:59 Eiii wrote: he's just taking advantage of the lurker-killing mechanic to softclaim a KP role, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Don't worry about him at all! Everyone who has been accusing others of making contentless posts, I give you Fluff 101 by it's Honorary Professor, Eiii! On June 28 2011 14:17 Eiii wrote: Which is pretty ironic if you put it that way. Anyway, I find myself really not understanding these early days. A few players like to make big posts about how town should play, what down should watch out for, pro-town environment etc but they pretty much all say the same thing. They all seem to have more purpose than content-- that is, they're supposed to establish the posters as big names for people to pay attention to or follow throughout the game. And to be honest, the showiness puts me off a bit. If you're just going to say what everyone's heard before, why do it so loudly? I promised myself I'd post my thoughts more, so there they are :B Lists are whatever, they just let blues who don't know what's going on fall into the hands of a) mafia or b) some nice green dude. He brings up "pro-town play", lists and flashy posters yet fails to give any opinion on whether he likes or dislikes them other than "puts me off a bit". You don't seem to want to tell us what you think Eiii! Your thoughts you promise are simply a list of all possible outcomes! On June 28 2011 17:48 Eiii wrote: Isn't this exactly what he's accusing hiro of doing? The guy has ~7 posts in the thread, and as TAA points out most aren't stellar contributions. Weak weak weak. Say something! On June 29 2011 08:06 Eiii wrote: A agree with sandroba on this one-- though syll hasn't been super active or anything, none of his posts make me feel like he's trying hard to stay off the radar. After reading people's thoughts on drazerk and looking through his posts though, I can't say I get the same vibe from him. It even feels like people are trying to divert attention away from him at the moment, so that's where I'll hang my votehat for now. ##Vote: Drazerk I covered this in my analysis of the voting on Drazerk. His reason for voting Drazerk is completely contradictory to what is actually happening! CONCLUSION Eiii is hiding like crazy! He says nothing at all! He is trying to keep people off his scumbuddy GMarshal! He is bandwagoning with very poor reasoning! Now that sinani and Marshal aren't under any pressure anymore he disappears without a trace! | ||
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I don't think you're mafia dude but this isn't a good move. Your distant cousin Henry VI is another story however! | ||
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SCUM TEAM OF SCUMDOM sinani206 GMarshal Eiii I was worried about Mig before and I'd very much like to see him come forward as well. Step up dude! | ||
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On June 29 2011 23:09 Palmar wrote: I agree. DropBear, you need to work on your presentation. You said you wanted to lynch sinani206, then just chill with other cases until you're successful in that. I do not understand what you mean? Presentation? Chilling? I want to lynch Henry VI. I think GMarshal and Eiii are scum. I think the bandwagon on Drazerk is dodgy as hell and I'm very suspicious of the first handful on it, other than Cthsazsa. I agree with you that Viscera is playing oddly and I would like him to explain himself. I do not like hiro and syllogism as lynches. Is that better? | ||
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On June 29 2011 23:18 Palmar wrote: You see DropBear, I'm totally willing to work with you, but you have to stop clusterfucking everyone around by trying to solve the game in one go. Oh, and you did this as mafia in PTP... is there something that you're not telling us? I'm not clusterfucking or trying to solve the game in one go. There are 3 people who I think are dodgy, that's a reasonable number is it not? There are others who have caught my eye but I want to see how things unfold first. I also have tried to explain why I think Draz, syllo and hiro are innocent. I am also willing to work with you. So long as you don't shoot me :D And yes there is something I'm not telling you, I just wasn't sure how to bring it up, but here goes. It was me who drank the milk out of the carton :o :o | ||
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On June 29 2011 23:34 chaos13 wrote: Well here is what I have seen after waking up and reading through the past few pages of the thread. We start out with a bandwagon on Drazerk with seemingly no resistance. A DT dies, after he had been tunneling Drazerk. For some reason this convinces everyone to jump off of his bandwagon. MAJOR target deflection onto VisceraEyes, someone who it isn't likely TAA checked, based on his posts. Target deflection is a good way to resist a bandwagon without being obvious. On the VisceraEyes lynch, I see a bandwagon that is even faster and less resisted than Drazerks was. Let's also note that syllogism was gaining a fair number of votes before TAA died. So tell me, what real reason do you guys have for changing your votes off of Drazerk? What really changed when TAA died? Here is what I propose. A vig shoots Drazerk. We lynch syllogism or VisceraEyes. All three of these players have very good cases against them. Tomorrow a vig uses their lurker shot on ~OpZ~, a veteran player who has been lurking and is entirely aware of it, and doesn't seem to care about it. People have also brought up sinani206 again. After reading through his posts, he seems more like an inexperienced townie than a mafia. Dude the votes went ON to Drazerk after the detective died. His vote count doubled in no time after TAA died. He was leading the lynch by about 10 votes. I completely oppose the cases on both Drazerk and syllogism. Viscera needs to speak up and if I had to choose one of these three it would be him. | ||
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Switching to Drazerk. | ||
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Goodbye my friends | ||
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