Closed Casket Mafia

On June 28 2011 13:11 LSB wrote:
Uhh... Just saying... I'm not trying to say anything about either's alignment, it's a test to vertify whether or not deconduo's claim holds up.

Certainly if we wake up tomorrow and Fishball and Caller are both killed, deconduo seems a bit more believable.
If tomorrow only one person is killed, well something fishy went on and deconduo is a bit less believable.

As for analyzing I'm getting a null read on Fishy, and deconduo I'm bothered by his confidance in his KP.

On June 28 2011 19:11 Radfield wrote:



I do. Lynching Decon is a bad move. He's active, opinionated, and pushing his views. Players like that are bad Day 1 lynches. And saying things like: "He's 75% green but lets kill him" is not something that mafia say(unless they are really bad or really ballsy).

On June 28 2011 20:37 deconduo wrote:


Its no flip brah.

On June 28 2011 21:37 deconduo wrote:
I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:

-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.

-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.

If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.

If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight.

On June 26 2011 07:23 Kurumi wrote:
Assuming we have Coroner type role should it target lynched people or night kills so we know how many blues or townies died ? Should vigi kills have the same priority as lynches ? Id like to avoid viging anyone though ,unless we are dead sure someone's scum .

On June 26 2011 08:05 Kurumi wrote:
It is just Fishball, just give him time to get running ! Either way I dont see a huge and strong case against him just yet,nothing crucial was told to be honest. It is just like lynching Chezinu based on meta.

On June 27 2011 19:33 Kurumi wrote:
GGQ was killed because he is lucky when it comes to being mafia,gg vigilante.

On June 27 2011 19:55 Kurumi wrote:
RoL,Ace stated that Mafia with 2KP would be too strong in this setup so I think it is either real Vigilante or Third Party Planar Dragon.

On June 27 2011 22:57 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,why the heck are You discussing night hits when we don't know shit,why do You suspect Caller killing GGQ? I know there are people with motive to kill GGQ,but betting it on Caller just because is dumb. I think we should leave Night hits for now.

On June 27 2011 23:46 Kurumi wrote:

come at me bro

On June 28 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
I will continue herping derping till something worth a while comes or two men in black come to my house.

On June 28 2011 22:02 Kurumi wrote:
Palmar,call a hit on Caller then I will start caring about Your worthless post-by-post "analysis". Trying to get rid of "weak" townie? Caller is bigger fish,too big for Your scummy mouth to swallow. I won't get lynched myself Day 1 like in XXXIX,in this game I will defend myself and bring town scum to lynch.

On June 28 2011 22:09 Kurumi wrote:
Palmar,You were the guy who said mass shooting is acceptable in this game. It is not.

On June 28 2011 22:13 Kurumi wrote:

I forgot for a while You're scum,sorry.

On June 28 2011 22:23 deconduo wrote:
The shady Iraqis who sold me my shotgun only gave me one bullet.

On June 28 2011 22:29 deconduo wrote:
Mafia might leave me alive after shoot cos I can't shoot anymore. Thats my reasoning.

On June 29 2011 00:20 LSB wrote:
Intresting analysis. But why does "trolling" make someone mafia? If trolling makes someone mafia, shouldn't Caller also be in that list?

On June 29 2011 00:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Note to all Vigi's at this point in time.

Anyone who does not commit to any suspect and random wastes a vote into a no lynch situation today should get shot.

This has been a public service message by the BloodyC0bbler corporation.

On June 29 2011 00:28 deconduo wrote:


So Caller and Fishball are mafia as well then?

On June 29 2011 02:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Chaoser

........oh wait....

##Unvote

Well, I came in to a pretty dire situation. Unless I can come up with some sort of contribution to appease you guys, I'm dead. No pressure.

Let's see...FoS Palmar for advocating the vigs to abuse their power...claiming it's of the utmost importance to do so, but simultaneously....



Simply killing...one of the most important roles (by your estimation alone) in the game. That's a pretty big contradiction right there, my friend.

##Vote: Palmar

I refuse to vote to lynch deconduo as he's claimed vig and I feel he should get a chance to prove it. Also I'm not going to vote for myself. Anyone who says I'm "not voting with town" is scum and should be shot to death by Palmar's vigs.

On June 29 2011 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
The idea in this game isn't to kill as many people as we can. I don't disagree with the notion that lurkers need to be dealt wit...quickly if possible.

The idea is to get everyone active. It's to not have to worry about lurkers in the first place. That way, vigi shots are better spent on scum. I agree with you that Vigis are going to be important in this game, but NOT by shooting as early and often as they can. I feel like this claim is anti town, and I hope you hang for promoting it.

On June 29 2011 04:20 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

I don't think it was for lack of contributing so much as what the little Chaoser contributed was. Some shitty list which could be used to feign actually being active, and then VisceraEyes attacking you when you appear pro town. I was actually going to suggest switching to Kurumi as well until I saw VisceraEyes first contribution attacking town players.

On June 29 2011 04:55 Kurumi wrote:

Sure You want to lynch Radfield scum,You killed GMarshal now You need to get rid of Radfield. Classic. I might contribute but since noone's making a case against me (just "herp derp he is trolling,so is Caller but he is scum Caller is not" nonsense)
Also, thirteen wait for another transmission.

On June 29 2011 05:22 Jackal58 wrote:

Good luck with that. He'll herp derp one liners until the end of the game if he lasts that long regardless of his alignment. He will find a way to fos everybody before the game is over. This is how he has acted in all 3 games I've been in with him. It's very frustrating.

On June 29 2011 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:


My problem with your 'statistically viable scenario' is that it assumes that a vig is still present after Cycle 1 in both scenarios. You claimed that it was a worst-case scenario, why not erase all the vigs after the first cycle? Especially since you're putting such importance on them. It seems to me that Mafia could luck into killing a vig AS WELL AS town could unknowingly lynch a different vig. THAT would be worst-case scenario.

This math is absolutely illogical and means absolutely nothing. Anyone swayed by it in THIS particular game is here by a fluke. Palmar is talking nonsense and should be lynched. Today.

On June 29 2011 05:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not saying don't use the tool Palmar, that's not what I'm saying at all.

What I'm saying is that we shouldn't just have them blindly shooting every single cycle just because they can. It WILL hurt town as they WILL hit more town than scum. Save Vig shots for people who are clearly and obviously scummy. Granted, you won't get as much of that in this PARTICULAR game, but just having them fire at random people every opportunity would be........insane.

On June 29 2011 05:59 Kurumi wrote:

You had Your first post to straighten it up. Now You're just being wishy-washy and advocating Yourself.

On June 29 2011 09:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
2) Suggesting that Town KP not be used tonight. There's literally NO reason not to use Town KP tonight. We'll find out if there's SK out there when there's unclaimed deaths. This reads like a scum that is afraid of getting vig'd because he knows he doesn't plan on posting much. Lurkers gon' die, that's been made abundantly clear.

On June 29 2011 17:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
As the 4 bells toll, I hear my bed calling. I'm in utter shock and awe that I survived the day. I won't let town down tomorrow.

BC, to be continued, I'm sure of it. Amber, I'm coming for YOU first. Palmar...I'm the least sure of you sir. Keep calling me an idiot, keep acting so much better than me, keep it ALL up. BC has the pleasure of experience to back up his attacks. You, however, do not. It just makes YOU look pathetic.

Night Liquidia.

On June 29 2011 17:56 Scamp wrote:
Um, Palmar? BC also pushed a Zodiac list in XLII when he was mafia. Then his team killed me night 1 and ran the game.

On June 29 2011 19:04 Radfield wrote:



Hammering the Viscera lynch would have been the most pro-town action taken yesterday. The lynch built towards 6/7 at times, then votes started going down all over the place, particularly on the easy target Deconduo. I find it very unlikely that mafia would shy away from hopping on the lynch in a no-flip set-up, unless the target was red.

On June 29 2011 23:05 Caller wrote:
Why Kurumi isn’t scummy
Kurumi is a self-admitted not good at mafia player. That means he is more prone to making the typical scumslips that mafia would make. Either that or he would totally clam up like he did in PYP. Yet Kurumi hasn’t slipped up: if anything, he’s acting just as troll here as he is normally. He’s playing VERY aggressively, calling people out, not even pretending to be contributing, and etc. Mafia DON’T do this. Especially not good ones. And since he hasn’t slipped up in like 10000 posts, I think he’s either a normal townie, or a suicide bomber.

Why BC is fishy:
BC always has all the mafia by day 2. Unfortunately, he also usually dies by Day 2. BC hasn’t contributed much-well, he has contributed, but not in the sense that I’m talking about. He’s just acting… so damn fishy. I can’t pin anything on him because there’s nothing to pin him on, but he’s just acting so damn fishy that my gut says to keep an eye on him.

more to come when I feel like it
RoL just scumslipped

On June 30 2011 02:25 sandroba wrote:


Okay guess what. Look at this shit.

On June 30 2011 18:29 Chezinu wrote:
So, I was thinking. Yes, I do think about the game from time to time before posting. Let's say we have two DT roles or a mafia is faking a DT role. Wouldn't it be interesting if two DTs claimed on the same day? The mafia only having one KP can only kill one of us.. If we do in fact have two DTs and both claimed today, that would give town a lot of information.

So without further delay:



Question:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 30 2011 22:03 Caller wrote:
RoL, you should claim.

On June 30 2011 23:58 Jackal58 wrote:
Perhaps I'm being naive or foolish but I'm going to take fishball at his word. GMarshal's plan for lynching the DT first revolved around preventing scum from making a false claim. He appeared to have enough support in his plan that I gotta believe Fishball is telling the truth. I can't see the scum team putting one of their own so close to a noose.

On June 30 2011 23:59 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

As stated in this post, DT claiming is retarded, and from a lessor player I might consider making an exception based on lack of experience and confidence, but fishball obviously won't get that luxury. Claiming is so fucking INCREDIBLY bad.

On July 01 2011 00:16 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

Listen my Icelandic twin, doing this is stupid. Read what I wrote above, this is a gamble that won't pan out which is why we so heavily discouraged DT claims and even provided the exact way a DT should go about his successful role checks.

On July 01 2011 02:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

Your logic sucked too.

On July 01 2011 02:42 Caller wrote:

hurry up and claim then, let's hear your claim. maybe we'll get off you.

On July 01 2011 02:56 Caller wrote:
shit

fuck guys my bad, Fishball and BC are both mafia.

I totally lied about my abilities. I have TWO shots, not one. I was waiting for somebody to bumble into the trap I had laid, but I didn't expect BC to do it.

I'm going to prove it by shooting BC tonight.

On July 02 2011 07:44 Caller wrote:
No we lynch fishball because there is no friggin role reveal so we don't know if rol was town or not
Get his results from tonight then lynch him. I'm almost positive he and bc were in this together.

On June 25 2011 19:04 sandroba wrote:
I've thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that mafia's optimal strat is going to be defending their team without fear, since no flips mean they keep hidden even after a scum lynch.

Sandroba- Posting nothing, supports LSB? Odd. Actually defends himself fairly well to fishballs accusations. Going in the gray area.

On July 03 2011 10:07 LSB wrote:

Wait, so what is your role again? If you get lynched, for the following night, all town become invincible?

On July 03 2011 17:55 GMarshal wrote:


Yes, please make unecessarily hurtful comments towards someone who was so enraged he quit tl mafia, that will just make any newer players reading the game just *itch* with excitement at getting to play with us "vets".

If you don't have something nice to say its best to not say anything at all.

/goes back to being dead

On July 03 2011 18:01 GMarshal wrote:
and sorry for snapping out at you, my post was a little harsh too, its just I feel like of late people are being abrasive for no particular reason. Anyway, I'll go back to being dead now.

<3

On July 03 2011 21:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Take Amber off your list Palmar. He's town. I guarantee it.

On July 04 2011 22:16 Kurumi wrote:

Yeah,whatever You want. I think Chez is null read,but whatever.

On July 05 2011 01:54 LSB wrote:
For everyone, I've provided this list. I have bolded the things I feel are too convenient

ilovejonn- Coroner
sandroba- No claim
LSB- JOAT
Palmar- Virgin
citi.zen- Chief Investigator
Chezinu- Vanilla Town
Amber[LighT]- Mason
Kurumi- Veteran Medic

Sandroba- Generally mafia don't like to claim until the very end in order to see what other people are doing.
Palmar- A weird role that hasn't seen much play in TL Mafia. It through me off guard since it didn't seem like a role Ace would actually use.
Amber[LighT]- Well, until Amber posts his PM conversation with Jackal, he will always be suspicious in my eyes
Kurumi- Mafia generally like to claim roles that can explain why they are alive. A role like a veteran is a good claim as then people won't wonder why you are alive.

On July 05 2011 08:36 sandroba wrote:
That was a compliment on your scum play btw. You will not get away with it this time.

On July 06 2011 17:08 Kurumi wrote:
Did we win?

On July 06 2011 20:39 Kurumi wrote:
YES WE WON THIS SHIT

On July 06 2011 10:02 Varpulis wrote:

Modkill him for great justice.

On July 07 2011 13:34 Chezinu wrote:

That makes no sense.. It would be a waste. He could rolecheck me again now that the lawyer isn't here and get the same result. But then that would be wasteful as well. I think it would be better if he rolechecks the questionable blue roles.

On July 08 2011 08:07 Ace wrote:

Chezinu will be lynched soon.

On July 08 2011 12:06 Chezinu wrote:
Have you ever thought that I had two bombs on Palmar and citi.zen that is activated if I'm lynched? muhahaha

On June 30 2011 06:07 Chezinu wrote:
So is this what we have so far?

RebirthOfLeGenD
ilovejonn
GMarshal
sandroba
Amber[LighT]
LSB
deconduo
Caller
Palmar
BloodyC0bbler
Fishball
Radfield
Chezinu
VisceraEyes
Scamp
GGQ
Jackal58
Kurumi

On July 08 2011 08:07 Ace wrote:
soon.

On July 09 2011 00:53 JeeJee wrote:
Listen, if a single townie votes for someone other than a mafia, it's insta-loss, right? What do you have to lose by waiting for a bit? I am not hammering my vote on you right away anymore so calm down for a bit. I need to re-read the thread first...

On June 29 2011 02:57 Caller wrote:
also, ilovejonn is mafia

On July 01 2011 06:06 sandroba wrote:
I think I made it pretty clear that I think VisceraEyes is scum. It made sense that RoL was also scum since he refused to lynch VisceraEyes, thus that made you DT for real. Caller also defended VisceraEyes and was the main reason he did not get lynched day1 AND has being claiming a fuckton of roles and getting away with it. I'm actually not even bothering to respond to all his shit since 90% of it are lies. I'm 100% confident he's either SK or Scum. As for LSB I'm not sure anymore, but I felt like he was town all game. ilovejonn I have no clue to be honest.

On July 01 2011 12:11 ilovejonn wrote:
Sorry I had work the whole day and a meeting, was very busy since tmr is Canada Day. I've caught up with the thread but honestly skipped a few of the last few pages because it was just Caller and Fishball shouting at each other. I'll be back when Day comes. And for the record Ace says I didn't vote in the vote count, but I did.

On July 01 2011 17:29 citi.zen wrote:
As it happens, I also like Fishball's scum list of VisceraEyes, LSB and ilovejonn. I would add sandroba and Kurumi to it - both have done little more but spam filler posts since the start of the game.

On July 05 2011 07:27 Kurumi wrote:
Let's look,Fishball strongly believes that LSB is scum..
LSB shot RoL Night 1. RoL did not lie about his role and I think he DID NOT lie about his medic protect. Medic is either mafia or we have something cool over here.
So let's do this.
ilovejonn claimed to check GGQ's body on Night 0.. He got killed by mafia.
Night ??? Check was deconduo,who was obvious Vigilante... but there's a treat: he SPECIFIES that GGQ was town alligned,but does not give that information about decon..
Night ??? Check was Scamp,and his body was missing.. Now the fun part.
Somehow between those he checked RoL's body which turned out to be Mafia Janitor...
So let's think a bit. Both Scamp and GGQ were mafia kills. They could EASILY hide those bodies. Why didn't they hide both? One-shot ability? Why Scamp? If Mafia would indeed have Mafia Janitor they had cleaned up GGQ's body easily. So You know how it goes? RoL was Mafia Coroner. He gave ilovejonn his checks to back up the claim. ilovejonn is scum. He does not specify when the check happened. He tries to frame LSB. He tries to convince us that Mafia Janitor existed.
##vote ilovejonn
VOTE HIM,WE ARE CLOSE TO VICTORY GUYS,MAFIA IS BETWEEN CHEZ AND SANDROBA NOW

On July 09 2011 12:42 Ace wrote:
Also citi.zen made a great claim that was hard to deal with. He was an unconfirmed power role that made you guys believe he was confirmed and JeeJee was the only one to question it.

What citi.zen done is use the Scum information advantage along with his brain: no one knew that RoL dying is what made everyone else flip after except Scum. So citi.zen fake claimed a role that might be in the game. It was a good play.

Then JeeJee said it can't be in the game because RoL survived a mimic shot from LSB. This was also smart because really why didn't anyone stop and think how the hell RoL lived? Once GGQ was outted as a dead medic this should have been hammered home. JeeJee correctly guessed there is a Scum Doctor.

Of course citi.zen just rode Palmar to victory after finally offing the only confirmed innocent - Amber[Light].

It was a fun game to observe but at the same time some of you have to work on your scum hunting skills - a lot. JeeJee and citi.zen replaced into the game and showed more thought about the overall picture, did better reading and actually used what was given to them and what came out in the thread to try to win more effectively than half the people playing.

Shameful because some of you that played in the game should have done at least a credible job of putting some simple stuff together. RoL surviving a hit and LSB dying flipping innocent should have been a big wtf happened that night.

Caller, BC and Kurumi just show that lying to Town when you're a Townie is beyond stupid. What a clusterfuck of nonsense.



and why does that matter? Being innocent =/= being right.

On July 09 2011 13:24 JeeJee wrote:
Was my rebuttal of his argument not good enough?

Or since his post you just kinda TLDR'd all of my posts? Be honest, really I don't care, just wanna know lol

On July 09 2011 07:22 JeeJee wrote:
ILJ was wrong when he said he checked during night 0.

On July 10 2011 09:17 Fishball wrote:
You could only have kept me alive if you were lynched the Night before in place of RoL, which is not possible.

On July 10 2011 20:59 sandroba wrote:
I'm dissapointed that no one proved I'm scum and lynched me out of the blue =(