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/confirm
"Alternatively he could have a change of heart and post normally, but I don't see that happening."
As a matter of fact, it is happening! Ver is my witness, but he is not playing! Argh! After the last game I played, I told Ver that I would play a serious game. Also, since there are no flips -- I can not afford to act crazy because that will just confuse the town. My death can't explain anything. So, I will avoid riddles and equivocal communication.
If town does decide to lynch me, I will most likely play crazy in more games to come. Last time I attempted to play the sane game, I was shot on day 1. That game I decided to play normally, because I was tried of trolling (trolled the two games prior -- trolling is a tiring task).
There is no pms this game -- more the reason for me to play sane. I cannot have any hidden agendas. So, that leaves me with the option of analyzing scum in the open -- which i typically never do.
Things I noticed about my scum analysis abilities:
I find I typically good at analyzing people in the shadows where there isn't much spotlight on them. A flaw I have is that I have trouble discriminating people with blues roles vs being red. I find I can spot non-roles vs roles rather easily. However, this game we don't know the roles nor how many, Everyone could have a role. But I know this isn't true. Of course, GM will say to ignore such matters. But for me roles have major impact on playing style, thus cannot be neglected in analysis. Ever hear of a role schema? If someone is given a role -- they will play that role. A clever player will try to pretend to be another role.. but let's hope we can see through such attempts.
No flips = DO NOT BE BROWN. In this game, everyone must be clear and straightforward. We must avoid typical scum hunting tatics. Do Not Lie to gain information. Do Not Lie to get someone to react in the thread. Do Not act crazy. Answer all questions directly. If you do not want to reveal information, then state that you don't feel comfortable providing such information. Do not ignore people. Not in this setup.
This is a new game.
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On June 25 2011 13:35 GMarshal wrote:
Why does no one comment on my post?
I take it from the silence that we are all ok with lynching Chez then, right? No one seems to be complaining...
And my policies are now accepted by all, right?
The policy is unacceptable.
GMarshal, I know this question may seem to be irrelevant, but I will explain why I asked this question after you have answered it. What is your favorite mafia moment?
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On June 25 2011 19:04 sandroba wrote:
Shit, I'm so excited for this game, even though this is pretty much going to be impossible. I've thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that mafia's optimal strat is going to be defending their team without fear, since no flips mean they keep hidden even after a scum lynch. Regarding the lynch, it's pretty obvious that we should try to agree on a lynch every day cycle, as the lynch is town kp and should not be wasted. A no lynch day is not acceptable at all and people that refuse to make a stand should be persecuted. About claims: you should only claim if you are about to get lynched or if you found enough mafia to make it worth it. I want to propose that anyone that claims without a damn good reason should be insta-lynched. This setup is even worse than normal, mafia has even a better edge on information, so if you claim you better have a pretty good reason. Also mafia can probably get away with bulshit claims without any repercusions so just don't fucking claim.
Ok so now down to business, I thought chezinu was insane, what's up with the straight foward post? I'm suspicious and dissapointed at the same time.
Reasons for saneness as i stated earlier:This is not your typical game, there are no pms, there are no-flips, and Ver was disappointed that I'm not living up to my full potential.
Your disappointed suspicious of me: Why the soft-accusation of me being suspicious? You disappointed that you can't accuse me as mafia for an easy lynch?
Why so angry? The curse words in your post makes you sound angry, are you?
What is your impression of GM?
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On June 25 2011 19:12 Scamp wrote:
/Confirm
I must disagree with a lot of what Radfield says. It really seems like he wants to steer us to a no-lynch.
Ok, here is the plan. Me, you, and Legendary are going on a special ops mission. You need to blow their defensive and Legendary will protect himself while I attract attention. It seems night 0 will be very important for town.
Note: this is not equivocal communication nor a riddle. It is a restricted code.
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On June 25 2011 19:29 sandroba wrote:
@chezinu I'm suspiciously dissapointed. I'd rather be fooled all game and get entertained than get an easy mafia day1 and miss out on chez awesomeness. Pretty sad you are sane mafia this game =/
GM does not find your behaviour suspicious so I guess he's mafia with you?
Great answer. Suspicion cleared.
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On June 25 2011 19:42 sandroba wrote:
Can I ask you the same? You pretty much shaped up after GM called for your lynch on his first post. What's your opinion on him so far?
Leaning mafia. I think he will probably die tonight.
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On June 25 2011 13:32 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 13:27 Ace wrote:
Everyone should have gotten a role PM. If you didn't send myself or YM a PM asap. Game *officially* starts in 23.5 hours, but you can start discussing things now.
REMEMBER WE START AT NIGHT 0!
Good Luck! Can't we just start the blood shed now. This is boring.
I think night 0 is going to be big! ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
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On June 26 2011 01:36 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 15:03 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2011 13:35 GMarshal wrote:
Why does no one comment on my post?
I take it from the silence that we are all ok with lynching Chez then, right? No one seems to be complaining...
And my policies are now accepted by all, right? The policy is unacceptable. GMarshal, I know this question may seem to be irrelevant, but I will explain why I asked this question after you have answered it. What is your favorite mafia moment? I won't pretend to know your reasoning, but I'll answer your question. I think my favorite moment was probably watching people (notably bill murray, smurfing as gryfindor) react to my cell organization plan in mafia XXXVII. I also really enjoyed being a Mole in PTP, particularly forcing the Palmar mislynch, as I felt that was the first time I really successfully pushed a lynch. I look forward to hearing your reasoning behind the question. I was going to go with "Seeing I got VT as my role in any game" but I feel like that would be a cheap answer to an interesting question. Also what is your favorite mafia moment? ^_^ Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 14:56 GGQ wrote:On June 25 2011 13:35 GMarshal wrote:
Why does no one comment on my post?
I take it from the silence that we are all ok with lynching Chez then, right? No one seems to be complaining...
And my policies are now accepted by all, right? Sure, I have one major problem that leaps out immediately from your policies. Your policy number one is to ignore all role claims. Your policy number two is based on specifically NOT ignoring a role claim. Wuddup wit dat? In a more general sense, I have a problem with your policy of having policies. I find policies restrictive and in my experience different situations require situational judgement. If you want to stress that role claims are very unreliable in this setup and we should be highly skeptical of them, I approve. If you want to make a "policy" that we all have to ignore them, I disapprove. The reason behind the conflict between policy 1 and 2, is that the town is pretty much unable to ignore a DT claim, especially considering how vociferous some DTs can be. With that policy we have a clear guideline of how to handle these situations. Am I going to adhere to them strictly? No, I'm not, but having them there discourages actions we don't want to see. I don't want anyone claiming, since its essentially all WIFOM, by establishing this policy I keep people from claiming without excellent reasons, as they know they will most likely be ignored if they do. The same goes with the DT policy, by doing this I avoid any kind of shenanigans where mafia decides to claim DT. Obviously we aren't going to adhere to these policies no matter what, but by establishing them as the basic procedure we follow, barring exceptional circumstances, we basically avoid those situations. Would you like it better if I called them "guidlines" rather than "policies'? I just feel like the word policy carries more weight. Addressing Radfeild, I fully agree with killing an inactive/lurker day 1, and am opposed to no lynching, just on principle. Sure with a no flip setup its going to be difficult to obtain as much information from the lynch as it would be in a open flip setup, but if we don't lynch then our chances of hitting scum are 0. If we do lynch and we analyze, then they are significantly higher than zero. To win we need to kill scum, not lynching does not lead to killing scum, it just gives scum more time to shoot at the town. Yes, sure they only have one KP, but the more we no-lynch the easier time they have controlling the lynch. Also if people want to see games with majority lynch, I do believe the first PYPs required a majority to lynch. This is a mechanic almost as significant as no flip, so really pay attention to it.
The reason behind the question was to initiate small talk. I was hoping to get a conversation started where the atmosphere was relax. That way your guard would be down and I could get a good feel of your posting tendencies. However, you decided to go to sleep last night so I didn't have anyone to talk to..
As for my favorite moment in mafia... geez, so many! I will have to answer this more broadly. My favorite moments in mafia is when everyone in the game thinks I'm horrible or crazy and then I used my super abilities and shock the town. That and Trolling, making stories, videos, riddles, encrypted codes, hidden messages, establishing my own top secret groups, dodging lynches at the last second, random voting, being unreadable, creating games within games, redefining the normal approach to the game, being on the suspect list the entire game and not dying, taunting mafia as town, taunting town as mafia, PM land, taunting in pm land, pretending I have bombs or am some imba role which I have never ever gotten.. just you wait.. pm threat letters, killing to form a message, escaping death when it seems all is lost, making pictures..../sigh I love this game../cry its been so nice to me... It would be a shame if someone decides to kill me..
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Suicidal and Legendary, What are YALL doing?
PS: Also, great job on that mafia hit!
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On June 27 2011 17:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Chezinu are we going back to those code names you devised literally like 20 games ago?
You can call me Corps!
The first and second poster have been killed. That means they have a high probably of having a blue role or being red. Knowing that mafia killed one means that we have lost a special role..  . However, if by chance a town aligned or third party member killed the other player, there could be a chance that a mafia has been killed. So, Fishball how do you feel about this?
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Caller role analysis?
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2011 07:25 Caller wrote:
just popped in to say two things
if Radfield doesn't die by night 2 he's scum
and
Scamp is mafia
^^ On June 27 2011 08:38 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 07:37 GMarshal wrote:On June 27 2011 07:25 Caller wrote:
just popped in to say two things
if Radfield doesn't die by night 2 he's scum
and
Scamp is mafia
^^ And where do you get that Scamp is mafia? Just curious as to your reasoning ^_^ because im the boss and everyone should know it next question i can do this shit all day On June 27 2011 12:55 Caller wrote:
post already i want to see all the people that i have personally shot to death. with my bare two hands.
thats right. i shoot people to death with my hands. My fingernails bypass medic protection and the only thing harder than the force that they hit with is my penis. On June 27 2011 12:59 Caller wrote:
also i'm claiming Drive-By Shooter which is a shooting role where I pick three people and the following three verbs: shoot, save, sodomize. So tonight expect one person to die, one person to be saved, and one person to be waking up the next morning wondering just what they ate last night. Possibly not in that order. On June 27 2011 13:16 Caller wrote:
oh wow ggq, sorry bro, if i had known that sodomy left your anus open enough to make you "annihlated" i woulda not brought that horse in.
also ace you gave me a buggy role where is my shot and my save
Could all the vulgarity be a requirement of his role?
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On June 27 2011 18:53 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 19:47 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2011 19:42 sandroba wrote:
Can I ask you the same? You pretty much shaped up after GM called for your lynch on his first post. What's your opinion on him so far? Leaning mafia. I think he will probably die tonight. Hi Chez. Did you kill GM last night? Negative.
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oops, I typed it inside the quote..
On June 27 2011 20:51 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 17:47 Chezinu wrote:On June 27 2011 17:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Chezinu are we going back to those code names you devised literally like 20 games ago? You can call me Corps! The first and second poster have been killed. That means they have a high probably of having a blue role or being red. Knowing that mafia killed one means that we have lost a special role.. . However, if by chance a town aligned or third party member killed the other player, there could be a chance that a mafia has been killed. So, Fishball how do you feel about this? You say that like it was coordinated. What do you know we don't?
I know my role and I have intuitive abilities that have been refined past experiences in mafia. As for the rest that I know, I do not feel comfortable fully answering your question.
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On June 27 2011 21:37 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Okay first off anyone who is suggesting that there is a serial killer is automatically getting an FoS today. You're just introducing more unnecessary discussion into a chaotic setup. Have no fear, there's a plan to clear this crap up. If you have a pro-town KP role, don't fucking use it tonight. Consider tonight a day off from your ability. Unless you're some compulsive vigilante this shouldn't be a problem. Assuming there is only 1 night kill tonight we can safely say there is NO serial killer.
On to more important things: The Lynch
We know that there needs to be a majority lynch, the magic number today is 9. Here's what we should do. Build a case against, AT THE MOST, 2 players. This should be done within the first 24 hours. Have some good arguments ready because the town will pressure you by asking WHY we should lynch the person you're suspecting. Once we have a general idea of the two players we want to lynch we settle it over a vote. This guarantees that one player will be lynched.
A couple of rules when voting should be established:
1. Do not vote for yourself
2. Do not vote for someone to essentially avoid confrontation or to "save your vote."
3. Try to vote once and stick with it.
If you are protown you should abide by these rules. If you're scum you are highly encouraged to break these rules. Townies caught breaking these rules will die, and I will not feel sorry when we lose due to idiocy.
Lurking will get you killed, so don't try it.
I'll post suspects when I'm ready, it's really too early to just throw names out there.
How will townies die if they break the rules? How will it be enforced? A vigi kill.. oh wait.. I guess rule breakers will live another day! How will lurkers get killed? Wait.. is there a day vigi? Don't Shoot!
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On June 28 2011 02:30 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 23:30 deconduo wrote:On June 27 2011 21:43 deconduo wrote:
Unless I see them step up their posting significantly, I would suggest Fishball/Caller for today. No use keeping them around to crap up the thread. On June 27 2011 23:23 Fishball wrote:On June 27 2011 18:26 deconduo wrote:
Fishball and Caller have been totally useless, and I'm waiting to see if LSB has anything to say. These are the people that should be up for lynching today. In a no reveal setup, anyone thats just fucking around without giving of any reads needs to die.
Such a hypocrite, and daft to boot. Although after what you displayed in PYP3, I expected nothing less from you. Or do you have a different agenda? Oh well, time will tell. -Super defensive -Resorting to (bad) personal attacks -Still hasn't contributed. Has Fishball stepped up his posting? Nope. ##Vote Fishball Me? Defensive? lol. (Bad) personal attacks? I only speak the truth. So if I start using the "shit"™ word, you'll start crying to mommy right? Contribute, contribute, contribute. I'm sick of these puny accusations every game. Not making a 12893019 word analysis does not mean not contributing; I'm constantly thinking how scummy you're acting, for real.##Vote deconduo
I love you fishball!!! Finally someone else is speaking the Truth!
+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2010 06:36 Chezinu wrote:
He called my post useless... I don't like that word.. I asked people in the past after playing games where people call my posts "useless" I never get an answer... On May 17 2011 06:47 Chezinu wrote:
define useless...exactly.. no one really knows... at least no one has yet to inform me.. You see you have to entertain the crowds and win them over. For instance, let's say i want people to keep me around and want to form bonds of friendship... + Show Spoiler +There are some older posts of me saying the very same thing, you can dig them up if you want!
I don't want to think of you has a mafia player.. I likes you too much, I'll just pretend your a vigi,
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#vote Amber[LighT]
made it!
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ilovejohn does make sense.. he was the 3rd person to confirm..
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So is this what we have so far?
RebirthOfLeGenD
ilovejonn
GMarshal
sandroba
Amber[LighT]
LSB
deconduo
Caller
Palmar
BloodyC0bbler
Fishball
Radfield
Chezinu
VisceraEyes
Scamp
GGQ
Jackal58
Kurumi
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Is this better?
RebirthOfLeGenD
ilovejonn - was third to confirm
GMarshal - first to confirm and quite a few people suspected him
sandroba - has been mean to me, disappointed that I'm not crazy enough to distract town and I don't really know this person..
Amber[LighT]
LSB
deconduo
Caller - claimed blue
Palmar
BloodyC0bbler
Fishball - was third to post
Radfield - has been strange the whole game (though some argue he was only strange lately)
Chezinu - town aligned
VisceraEyes
Scamp
GGQ - 2nd to confirm
Jackal58 - Don't really know that well and seems to not have a collective understand with the rest of the thread and what people think.
Kurumi
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##Vote Fishball
Why are you still alive? You seem fishy..
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On June 30 2011 17:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Sandroba, you have to be joking. We went over this countless fucking times. A DT claim is absolutely worthless in this set up, and he knows it. In fact his shit might of worked if he did it on a lessor player, but more importantly if I wasn't saved by a fucking medic last night. Which means at least one person out there knows he's full of shit.
Wait... are you saying that you didn't med protect yourself? I thought that was the plan!
Geez, getting other people to do your work for you... Well, atleast Scamp follows orders and blew the defenses..
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So, I was thinking. Yes, I do think about the game from time to time before posting. Let's say we have two DT roles or a mafia is faking a DT role. Wouldn't it be interesting if two DTs claimed on the same day? The mafia only having one KP can only kill one of us.. If we do in fact have two DTs and both claimed today, that would give town a lot of information.
So without further delay:
Question:
+ Show Spoiler +Do you guys think the other DT, if there is one should claim?
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Oh noes! He is using his special powers against me...
##Unvote
##RebirthofLegend
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Hey guys, I'm here! Wow, didn't expect to come back with day ended..
So Caller will kill BC. Town will lynch Fishball. Then we lynch Jackal58 the following day. If the game isn't over we kill sandroba next.
This plan sounds great!
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I think Caller is playing the most pro-town game. He has done a wonderful job.
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So Caller will kill BC. Town will lynch Fishball. After that we lynch citi.zen. Then we lynch Jackal58 the following day. If the game isn't over we kill sandroba next.
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Well, Fishball can still save himself from being lynch tomorrow.
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On July 01 2011 23:42 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 22:40 Chezinu wrote:
So Caller will kill BC. Town will lynch Fishball. After that we lynch citi.zen. Then we lynch Jackal58 the following day. If the game isn't over we kill sandroba next. Your list keeps getting longer. Why don't you pull your head out of Callers ass and do some thinking on your own.
On June 28 2011 06:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Sleeper Cell isn't much of a testament. Everybody knew I was scum and I lived to the end as well. I think the main reason Ace didn't get lynched was because I was the one calling him scum the loudest.
On June 29 2011 12:45 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 12:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Do you guys wonder why the votes haven't reached 9 yet? Because Viscera is most likely scum and town is collectively dumb. I'm going to bed. My vote is staying on Viscera. Good night guys.
On June 30 2011 09:03 Chezinu wrote:
Jackal58 - Don't really know that well and seems to not have a collective understand with the rest of the thread and what people think.
On June 29 2011 05:35 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 05:25 Palmar wrote:On June 29 2011 05:22 Jackal58 wrote:On June 29 2011 05:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On June 29 2011 04:59 Kurumi wrote:
Well,people accuse me without any case going on and want force me to speed up things I am doing right now,I was busy breadcrumbing my role,let me work seriously now,because this is heading ridiculously wrong. You have 1.5 hours to produce something useful then I switch my vote. Good luck with that. He'll herp derp one liners until the end of the game if he lasts that long regardless of his alignment. He will find a way to fos everybody before the game is over. This is how he has acted in all 3 games I've been in with him. It's very frustrating. So let's just get rid of him? The problem I have with that atm is I think he's most likely town. I don't subscribe to the "useless townie" theory. Useless townies are inactive and the host deals with them through modkills. The one time I pushed the useless townie card was on Bill Murray. It almost cost us the game. I'd rather not revisit that scenario.
Yeah, best not to mess with "useless townie" like me.
On June 28 2011 04:41 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 04:05 deconduo wrote:On June 28 2011 04:02 Jackal58 wrote:
Wow Ace sure did collect some of the most aggressive players here for this game. Giant elephant peni sparring with giant polish sausages. Should be a fun ride.
Just looking at meta on decon from the several games I've played with him I get the feeling he is town. He's not bashful straight out of the gate as a townie. He tends to be more subdued when he plays scum until late game. Good to know for my next game as mafia  You'll forget. Sandroba is scum.
oh, you support?
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On July 02 2011 23:03 Kurumi wrote:
I suggest lynching Chezinu. This guy was ready to lynch every blue we had. Also he is behaving weirdly and protecting Caller.
/facepalm
How is this even true? What blues did I try to get lynched? Can't blame me for saving VisceraEyes's life.Can't blame me for trying to cast suspicious on Fishball so that he would live longer and not get shot tonight.
PS I wonder if BC could possibly be the godfather that is so talented that he looks innocent even when he is dead..
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On July 03 2011 04:52 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 04:49 Chezinu wrote:On July 02 2011 23:03 Kurumi wrote:
I suggest lynching Chezinu. This guy was ready to lynch every blue we had. Also he is behaving weirdly and protecting Caller. /facepalm How is this even true? What blues did I try to get lynched? Can't blame me for saving VisceraEyes's life.Can't blame me for trying to cast suspicious on Fishball so that he would live longer and not get shot tonight. PS I wonder if BC could possibly be the godfather that is so talented that he looks innocent even when he is dead.. What did You claim?
I claimed that I was town aligned quite a while back.
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On July 02 2011 23:03 Kurumi wrote:
I suggest lynching Chezinu. This guy was ready to lynch every blue we had. Also he is behaving weirdly and protecting Caller.
How is this even true? What blues did I try to get lynched?
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On July 01 2011 22:42 Chezinu wrote:
Well, Fishball can still save himself from being lynch tomorrow.
I wasn't being completely serious about that list.
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On July 03 2011 05:14 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 05:11 Chezinu wrote:On July 02 2011 23:03 Kurumi wrote:
I suggest lynching Chezinu. This guy was ready to lynch every blue we had. Also he is behaving weirdly and protecting Caller. How is this even true? What blues did I try to get lynched? Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 22:40 Chezinu wrote:
So Caller will kill BC. Town will lynch Fishball. After that we lynch citi.zen. Then we lynch Jackal58 the following day. If the game isn't over we kill sandroba next. Fishball was DT. Citizen is Blue. Jackal and sandroba are not red. Caller is 3rd party or Ace is trolling us.
If Caller is 3rd party, he sure has helped town a lot with his kills.
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On July 03 2011 05:21 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 05:18 Chezinu wrote:On July 01 2011 22:42 Chezinu wrote:
Well, Fishball can still save himself from being lynch tomorrow. I wasn't being completely serious about that list. What about citi.zen? Sandroba and Jack58 whom I have a town read on? I think You,Caller and Amber/Jonn are three scum remaining.
You think there are 3 remaining instead of 2?
Radfield was acting strange the whole time he played. Then citi.zen posted a strange post when he joined. Plus:
On July 01 2011 22:03 Caller wrote:
citi.zen is mafia
As for sand, he hasn't been nice to me all game. Plus:
On June 28 2011 04:41 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 04:05 deconduo wrote:On June 28 2011 04:02 Jackal58 wrote:
Wow Ace sure did collect some of the most aggressive players here for this game. Giant elephant peni sparring with giant polish sausages. Should be a fun ride.
Just looking at meta on decon from the several games I've played with him I get the feeling he is town. He's not bashful straight out of the gate as a townie. He tends to be more subdued when he plays scum until late game. Good to know for my next game as mafia You'll forget. Sandroba is scum.
Then Jack thought my list wasn't pretty enough, so I made adjustment. Jackal still is not satisfied with me. Hasn't been ever since..
If I mistakenly accused a blue of being red on accident rather than on purpose to protect them, then:
On June 25 2011 14:47 Chezinu wrote:
A flaw I have is that I have trouble discriminating people with blues roles vs being red.
town list
lovejonn
sandroba
Amber[LighT]
LSB
deconduo
Caller
Palmar
citi.zen
Chezinu
Jackal58
Kurumi
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On July 03 2011 05:21 Kurumi wrote:
Chezinu,how killing GMarshal who was leaving so many town vibes and BC,who COULD BE BLUE but was lying to attract hit was pro-town? The fuck?
I didn't think GM was leaving town vibes..but then again I do confuse blue roles with red ones sometimes. I know he definitely wasn't a vanilla townie.
As for BC, Caller was just practicing self-defense. How could you blame him?
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On June 28 2011 21:18 Ace wrote:Day 1 Votes
With 16 alive it is 9 to lynch
Hessmyrr (1) - Kurumi
Radfield (1) - Palmar
deconduo (1) - Fishball
chaoser (3) - BloodyC0bbler, sandroba, Radfield
Not voting yet - Caller, Scamp, deconduo, ilovejohn, LSB, Amber[Light], RebirthofLegend, Chezinu, Jackal58, Chaoser
Day 1 ends on Wednesday June 29th @ 12AM ET/13:00 KST
On June 29 2011 10:00 LSB wrote:Day 1 Votes With 16 alive it is 9 to lynch deconduo (3) - Fishball, ilovejohn, LSB VisceraEyes (7) - BloodyC0bbler, sandroba, Radfield, deconduo, Amber[LighT], RebirthofLegend, Jackal58 LSB (1) - Caller Palmar (1) - Scamp Kurumi (1) - Palmar Amber[LighT] (1) - VisceraEyes ilovejonn (1) - Kurumi Not voting yet - Chezinu 3 Hours Till day ends
I would like to note that there is three hours till day ends and a lynch is better than a no-lynch. It would be best if we all focused on these two candidates. Deconduo, and VisceraEyes.
On June 29 2011 12:17 Ace wrote:
Day 1 Votes
With 16 alive it is 9 to lynch
Kurumi (1) - Palmar
deconduo (3) - Fishball, ilovejohn, LSB
VisceraEyes (7) - BloodyC0bbler, sandroba, Radfield, deconduo, Amber[Light], RebirthOfLeGenD, Jackal58
LSB (1) - Caller
ilovejohn (1)- Kurumi
Amber[Light] (3) - VisceraEyes, Chezinu, Scamp
Day 1 ends on Wednesday June 29th @ 12AM ET/13:00 KST or in 45 minutes from now
oh wow! I see a trend!!! "BloodyC0bbler, sandroba, Radfield"
lolololololol
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chaoser is obv a easy mafia target since he always seems scummy like I do. Poor Viscera, unfortunately had to replace him. Almost as bad as being paired with bill murray
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##Vote Sandroba
Don't be a rebellious people. Follow the Emperor!
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##Unvote Sandroba
##Vote Jackal58
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self claims so far:
Ilovejonn
sandroba
Amber[LighT]
LSB
Caller
Palmar
citi.zen
Chezinu
Jackal58
Kurumi
I don't think it wise for medic to claim green..
I'm considering citi.zen as scum again. Either A) he has good insight into people's align or B) he knows people's align because he is mafia.. not quite sure.. he is a clever fellow.. but he made the judgments rather rashly.. hmm
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Frame Hypothesis:
ok, RoL was framed.
innocents:
me
Caller
amber
jack
and half the blue claims are mafia.
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Why did almost all my suspects claim blue.. Tis a mess that I need time to clear up. I guess I'll further analyze this tomorrow or something -- don't really have time right now.
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awww, yall killed him.. We HAD SO MUCH INFORMATION TOO!!!
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suspect list:
Ilovejonn
sandroba
Amber[LighT]
LSB
Palmar
Jackal58
Kurumi
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Looks like only me and citi.zen saw through this,.. Seems he was telling the truth.. He really is a clever fellow! Too bad the rest of town killed in haste.
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DIE citi.zen DIE!!!! Poor excuse for killing Caller when you previously stated that you thought both Fishball and Caller were innocent! Your no policy lyncher!! YOU THINK YOU CAN GET TOWN TO LYNCH ME??? DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!!
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Serious Detective
That's right! I'm not afraid of you!!
citi.zen DIE DIE DIE
I totally think that citi.zen is mafia!
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Caller's role obv got flipped. So citi,zen why did you kill Caller -- why did you change your mind?
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Every single person left in this game voted for an innocent except for me.. DOOMED!!! DOOMED!!! CALLER!!! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO LEAVE ME!!!
citi.zen, it is me and you now... the only ones left who saw through this... I will pretend like you didn't get deceived on that last vote.. who do you think is mafia? I know you be clever, your first post this game spoke of truth! Please return to it -- don't let the mafia's lie consume you! You must trust in me. One of us will probably die tonight for being to great at this game. Let us join together.. your my only hope!
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YOU MAFIAS ARE SO CRUEL! First you killed GGQ... THAT IS A MOVE I WOULD MAKE! I GOT YOUR MESSAGE! GG...YEAH WELL I HOPE YOUR HAPPY!!! Going for the blue roles...knowing full well that the begining posters had roles...
THEN YOU KILLED MY TEAM MEMBERS!!! FIRST SUICIDAL SCAMP!!!! THEN LEGENDARY REBIRTHOFLEGEND!! YOU KILLED YOUR OWN KIND IN SPITE OF ME!!! THEN YOU KILLED FISHBALL, WHOM I SECRETLY LOVED DESPITE HIS STINCH!! BUT WORST OF ALL, YOU HAD TO KILL CALLER!!!!! WHO DO I HAVE LEFT!!! WHOO??? ARE YOU GOING TO KILL THEM TOO???
ARE YOU GOING TO USE MY INNOCENTS AGAINST ME??? ARE YOU GOING TO CALL ME A GODFATHER?? If you can make me godfather and let me join your team -- I surely will!  IF YOU KILL ME TONIGHT, KNOW THIS: YOU MAY MISS THE MOST EPIC MAFIA ENDING EVER!!! DON'T PRETEND YOU ARE SLEEPING AND CANT HEAR ME!! I KNOW YOUR AWAKE!!! YOUR GOING ABOUT THIS TOWN THIS VERY MOMENT TRYING TO KILL YOUR NEXT VICTIM!!! IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO KILL ANYONE TONIGHT JUST IN SPITE OF ME THEN GO AHEAD!!!! DO IT!!! I WANT YOU TOO!!!
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[QUOTE]On July 03 2011 12:17 Jackal58 wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 03 2011 12:01 Chezinu wrote:
All Callers fault.
[/QUOTE]
Its not entirely his fault.. I am partial to blame.. I"M SORRY CALLER!! I'M SORRY FOR SUGGESTING THE DEATH OF GM!!! TIS WAS ME!!!! WHY!?!??!
ITS ALL MY FAULT!!! HERE IS THE PROOF!!
[QUOTE]On June 25 2011 19:48 Chezinu wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 25 2011 13:32 Fishball wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 25 2011 13:27 Ace wrote:
Everyone should have gotten a role PM. If you didn't send myself or YM a PM asap. Game *officially* starts in 23.5 hours, but you can start discussing things now.
REMEMBER WE START AT NIGHT 0!
Good Luck![/QUOTE]
Can't we just start the blood shed now.
This is boring.[/QUOTE]
I think night 0 is going to be big! [url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg706/scaled.php?server=706&filename=doitj.jpg&res=medium][img]http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/smile.gif[/img][/url][/QUOTE]
It was all in the smile!! I AM PART TO BLAME!! /cry I"M SORRY!!
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On July 03 2011 12:20 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 12:15 Chezinu wrote:YOU MAFIAS ARE SO CRUEL! First you killed GGQ... THAT IS A MOVE I WOULD MAKE! I GOT YOUR MESSAGE! GG...YEAH WELL I HOPE YOUR HAPPY!!! Going for the blue roles...knowing full well that the begining posters had roles... THEN YOU KILLED MY TEAM MEMBERS!!! FIRST SUICIDAL SCAMP!!!! THEN LEGENDARY REBIRTHOFLEGEND!! YOU KILLED YOUR OWN KIND IN SPITE OF ME!!! THEN YOU KILLED FISHBALL, WHOM I SECRETLY LOVED DESPITE HIS STINCH!! BUT WORST OF ALL, YOU HAD TO KILL CALLER!!!!! WHO DO I HAVE LEFT!!! WHOO??? ARE YOU GOING TO KILL THEM TOO??? ARE YOU GOING TO USE MY INNOCENTS AGAINST ME??? ARE YOU GOING TO CALL ME A GODFATHER?? If you can make me godfather and let me join your team -- I surely will! IF YOU KILL ME TONIGHT, KNOW THIS: YOU MAY MISS THE MOST EPIC MAFIA ENDING EVER!!! DON'T PRETEND YOU ARE SLEEPING AND CANT HEAR ME!! I KNOW YOUR AWAKE!!! YOUR GOING ABOUT THIS TOWN THIS VERY MOMENT TRYING TO KILL YOUR NEXT VICTIM!!! IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO KILL ANYONE TONIGHT JUST IN SPITE OF ME THEN GO AHEAD!!!! DO IT!!! I WANT YOU TOO!!! Stfu fool. I'll never play another game with you or Caller in it. If you wanna mod kill me for that feel free. Where the hell do you find these morons Ace?
What are you going to do? Shoot me? That will shut me up! Nevermind, you don't have the power.. go ahead.. end your self with the mod..
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On July 03 2011 12:35 Jackal58 wrote:
Ya you guys love people that play the players and not the game. Well they are assholes. I'm calling them. They all flip brown.
Caller was pretty straight forward about his alignment. He also made clear he was a vigi. It is understandable that he lied about the amount of ammo he had.
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On July 04 2011 02:56 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 01:20 sandroba wrote:
I totally agree with palmar to go with option B.
Here goes my list of doom:
Amber[Light]
Kurumi
Chezinu
(Jackal58?)
I'm willing to bet the last mafia are all here. I can't analyse shit this game and I blame you trolls for making my life dificult. Luckly I have it right this time. " I have nothing but trust me!" Trolls? This game is under 50 pages long and you can't keep up? Give me a break.
You can't blame them. I agree with Palmer, we have an advantage because we know players like BC, Caller, and Fishball better than others playing this game.
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On July 01 2011 17:29 citi.zen wrote:
Caller is Caller. It would not be unlike him to lie as town, or change his lies around 100000x as mafia. At this point he either has another bullet or he does not. We'll find out soon enough.
But I thought you would understand..
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Smart move mafia. Killing regular townies to keep your mafia hidden in the blues..
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Self-claim blue:
ilovejonn
sandroba
LSB
Palmar
citi.zen
Self-claim green:
Chezinu
No claim:
Amber[LighT]
Kurumi
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oops
Self-claim blue:
ilovejonn
sandroba
LSB
Palmar
citi.zen
Kurumi
Self-claim green:
Chezinu
No claim:
Amber[LighT]
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On July 03 2011 09:00 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Be patient there's more to winning than just voting for the sake of voting quickly.
Let's see what the blue roles have to report today before mafia gets town to make rash decisions.
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Kurumi, ilovejonn, and LSB?
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sandroba vs Kurumi
and
ilovejonn and LSB vs Palmar and citi.zen
If ilovejonn and LSB -- ilovejonn would be lynched first
If Palmar and citi.zen -- Palmar would be lynched first
Just some ideas..
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I think LSB could be innocent. If he was mafia, he took a big risk claiming that I was vanilla townie -- unless of course mafia have a detective role.
Let the SIFZ join forces with the NIKZ and entrap the mafia forces! The Day isn't over! We can still lynch Ace's fat neck once again in hopes that he will subside. It is not too late!
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On July 05 2011 04:38 sandroba wrote:
I claimed already, vanilla townie. Well either LSB is lieing and fooled me all game and him and jonn are scum OR chezinu is godfather along with kurumi. Only one thing doesn't feel right about LSB claim to me, which is the fact that LSB claimed a shot night 2 which was theoretically the only night caller did not shoot. Also he claimed to have shot RoL and somehow he did not die.
Either way I like hanging chezinu better today.
##Vote: Chezinu
Your claiming vanilla now?
RoL self-protected himself obv?
Why are you lynching me when there are so many blue roles? Don't lynch me just because I had faith that in both Fishball and Caller. Especially when there are soo many blue roles claims!
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On July 05 2011 04:54 sandroba wrote:Because no one else makes sense as scum. If there are more I'm fucking oblivious to who it can be.
If there are only two.. Then it would make since that one would claim blue!
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On July 05 2011 04:55 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 04:52 Chezinu wrote:
I think LSB could be innocent. If he was mafia, he took a big risk claiming that I was vanilla townie -- unless of course mafia have a detective role.
Let the SIFZ join forces with the NIKZ and entrap the mafia forces! The Day isn't over! We can still lynch Ace's fat neck once again in hopes that he will subside. It is not too late! I'm unlynchable aka Kingdom of Whoring. Come at me bro.
I have yet to roleclaim that game in hopes that it will one day continue..
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On July 05 2011 04:59 Amber[LighT] wrote:
btw i believe there are wayyy too many blue claims...
YAY!!!! SOMEONE AGREES!!!!
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##vote: sandroba
majority lynch already reached. I was quite busy the past two days. Amber scares me with that last comment.. Nothing I can do now..
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On July 06 2011 11:55 sandroba wrote:
sorry for not being able to think of a way out =P
+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2011 19:16 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 19:04 sandroba wrote:
Shit, I'm so excited for this game, even though this is pretty much going to be impossible. I've thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that mafia's optimal strat is going to be defending their team without fear, since no flips mean they keep hidden even after a scum lynch. Regarding the lynch, it's pretty obvious that we should try to agree on a lynch every day cycle, as the lynch is town kp and should not be wasted. A no lynch day is not acceptable at all and people that refuse to make a stand should be persecuted. About claims: you should only claim if you are about to get lynched or if you found enough mafia to make it worth it. I want to propose that anyone that claims without a damn good reason should be insta-lynched. This setup is even worse than normal, mafia has even a better edge on information, so if you claim you better have a pretty good reason. Also mafia can probably get away with bulshit claims without any repercusions so just don't fucking claim.
Ok so now down to business, I thought chezinu was insane, what's up with the straight foward post? I'm suspicious and dissapointed at the same time. Reasons for saneness as i stated earlier:This is not your typical game, there are no pms, there are no-flips, and Ver was disappointed that I'm not living up to my full potential. Your disappointed suspicious of me: Why the soft-accusation of me being suspicious? You disappointed that you can't accuse me as mafia for an easy lynch? Why so angry? The curse words in your post makes you sound angry, are you? What is your impression of GM?
Is this why you voted for me?
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That doesn't make sense. If I was mafia, I wouldn't waste that ability on me -- because who in their right mind would check me if there could a potential godfather role. But then again LSB did..(or did he? dun dun dun) All I can say is look at the blue roles. We still have too many!
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On July 07 2011 01:06 Kurumi wrote:
Yeah , if we indeed have 2 scum left it is chez and ilj
if two? Ok, kill ilj first!
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On July 07 2011 01:14 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 01:06 Kurumi wrote:
Yeah , if we indeed have 2 scum left it is chez and ilj if two? Ok, kill ilj first!
oh wait.. I mean don't kill him! (reverse psychology since everyone does the opposite of what I suggest)..man shouldn't have said anything..
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On July 07 2011 01:44 Palmar wrote:
Now, the only way I can trust you guys is if you pinky-swear that you are not part of the evil mafia.
*reaches out his pinky*
So who is the "evil" mafia? How does one become a "part" of them? And how will you cut someone's pinky off if they break the promise?
"9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits."
I can't put my pinky on the line.
Know this: I'm town-aligned.
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On July 07 2011 07:00 citi.zen wrote:
It's night. We aren't lynching anyone, but LSB is shooting Chez. Reversed order, remember? Don't let him get away.
That makes no sense.. It would be a waste. He could rolecheck me again now that the lawyer isn't here and get the same result. But then that would be wasteful as well. I think it would be better if he rolechecks the questionable blue roles.
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Alright Palmer let me think about this. Its about time to get serious! Step 1: gather information
Self-claims
ilovejonn - Forensic Scientist -+ Show Spoiler +On July 03 2011 08:37 ilovejonn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 22:56 LSB wrote:I claim Jack of All TradesCaller is lyingNight 0I Protected BC, trying to see if someone would snipe him. Nothing happened Night 1I used a Mimic Action on RoL. Mimic allows me to target a player and mimic whatever action they did the previous night. I found out from Ace that if I mimiced a mafia, I would mimic the mafia kill action in addition to any night actions. So what I did was Mimic Rol to himself. If Rol was mafia he'd shoot himself. If he wasn't, he wouldn't. It was a free role check + vig hit. What happened was that I mimiced Rol trying to shoot someone, and also I mimiced Rol trying to investigate a dead body. This proves that RoL was the Mafia CoronorMy two ways of verifying this claim is in thread is 1) I claim that I shot Rol Night 1, no one else has claimed the shot. 2) I breadcrumbed Rol's coroner claim in case he would have tried to use it. + Show Spoiler +On June 30 2011 23:13 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 18:31 Kurumi wrote:
Oh also,I am up for killing any fucking Coroner who shows up tomorrow. You can go to hell. The probability You're Scum Coroner are as high as Sea Towers in Gdynia. I support this, for my own reasons. Oh and ##Vote: RebirthofLegend Because Caller said that he was going to shoot BC, I decided to use my Watch action on BC. Guess what I saw? Only one person visited BC last night, and that was Caller. ##Vote: Caller I'm going to confirm this claim to be true. LSB is not scum, nor am I. The plan I had today since we lynched RoL, was to check his dead body to confirm if Fishball was actually Cop or not, thus confirming him and myself as town. However, my plan wasn't really necessary as it seems like someone could reveal roles on Day posts, and I also did not expect THREE kills. I am the Forensic Scientist, basically I can check the roles of dead people. Why am I so sure LSB isn't lying? Because he said he mimic'd RoL checking a dead body. I had investigated deconduo's body and he revealed to be a Vigilante. I also found out on that same check that Scamp's body was missing. RoL's dead body check returned as Mafia Janitor and not mafia Coroner. I was confused as to why Scamp's body was missing, but if my speculations are correct, RoL's role can clean up dead bodies therefore not allowing people like me to check them. I also checked GGQ on Night 0, he returned Busy Paramedic and town aligned. The only people I haven't checked are GMarshal, and Scamp. But I know there are more coroner's left. Caller has kept on saying Fishball and BC are scum, and then they died. Obviously he is trying to justify his kills just by repeatedly saying they are scum and he was certain since it's no flip that he'll be safe. But as we can see Fish and BC didn't flip scum. My vote is going to be on Caller today. ##Vote: Caller
Amber[LighT] - recruiter mason -+ Show Spoiler +On July 04 2011 19:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:Oh hey guys. I'm going to work but I'll at least claim now. My role is Recruiter Mason. If you haven't guessed I was able to create a PM conversation with a player. However, I was able to pick someone myself, or pick someone completely at random who would be confirmed town. I chose to pick someone randomly and I got Jackal58! The confirmed townie would also be notified that I am pro-town. I'll post our PM conversation when I'm off since I'm on a phone right now
LSB - Jack of All Trades + Show Spoiler +On July 02 2011 22:56 LSB wrote:I claim Jack of All TradesCaller is lyingNight 0I Protected BC, trying to see if someone would snipe him. Nothing happened Night 1I used a Mimic Action on RoL. Mimic allows me to target a player and mimic whatever action they did the previous night. I found out from Ace that if I mimiced a mafia, I would mimic the mafia kill action in addition to any night actions. So what I did was Mimic Rol to himself. If Rol was mafia he'd shoot himself. If he wasn't, he wouldn't. It was a free role check + vig hit. What happened was that I mimiced Rol trying to shoot someone, and also I mimiced Rol trying to investigate a dead body. This proves that RoL was the Mafia CoronorMy two ways of verifying this claim is in thread is 1) I claim that I shot Rol Night 1, no one else has claimed the shot. 2) I breadcrumbed Rol's coroner claim in case he would have tried to use it. + Show Spoiler +On June 30 2011 23:13 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 18:31 Kurumi wrote:
Oh also,I am up for killing any fucking Coroner who shows up tomorrow. You can go to hell. The probability You're Scum Coroner are as high as Sea Towers in Gdynia. I support this, for my own reasons. Oh and ##Vote: RebirthofLegend Because Caller said that he was going to shoot BC, I decided to use my Watch action on BC. Guess what I saw? Only one person visited BC last night, and that was Caller. ##Vote: Caller
Palmar - Virgin + Show Spoiler +On July 02 2011 17:59 Palmar wrote:
Oh, yeah, and since all the cool kids are doing it.
I wanted Caller to shoot BC, and then I wanted to lynch Caller. Then I was going to offer myself up for lynch the next day, to hopefully buy Fishball an extra night.
I am a Virgin, if I get lynched no one in town can die the following night.
citi.zen - chief investigator + Show Spoiler +On July 02 2011 17:53 citi.zen wrote:
I actually do think we need some sort of mass claim. FB flipped DT so RoL was most likely red. That probably makes it 7 vs 3. This lynch is key, so let's get this party going.
I am chief investigator. If I lived past night 2 my department would start broadcasting investigation results on every death from that point on - i.e. this is no longer a no flip game. Ace must have enjoyed giving this role to Radfield.
Kurumi - veteran medic+ Show Spoiler +On July 02 2011 20:11 Kurumi wrote:
Vanilla Townie,breadcrumbed that shit,check mate mafia. On July 03 2011 01:30 Kurumi wrote:
You want to out the medic,don't You? So Your team can snipe him off? Shoot here. I want to test my Veteran powers. And yes I lied. I wanted scum to think that I am useless. Heard me? Shoot me,but bring at least 2KP.
dead:
Fishball - Cop
Caller - Vigilante
Vote History:
On June 29 2011 13:08 Ace wrote:
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Day 1 Votes
With 16 alive it is 9 to lynch
deconduo (3) - Fishball, ilovejohn, LSB
VisceraEyes (7) - BloodyC0bbler, sandroba, Radfield, deconduo, Amber[Light], Jackal58, Palmar
LSB (1) - Caller
ilovejohn (1)- Kurumi
Amber[Light] (4) - VisceraEyes, Chezinu, Scamp, RebirthOfLeGenD
Day 1 has ended in a No Lynch.
It is now Night 1. All Night actions are due in 24 hours by Thursday June 30th at 12AM ET/13:00 KST
On July 01 2011 02:32 Ace wrote:Day 2
With 14 alive, it is 8 to lynch.
RebirthofLegend(10) - Fishball, sandroba, Palmar, Kurumi, Chezinu, LSB, Caller, Amber[Light], Jackal58, ilovejohn
Fishball (1) - RebirthofLegend
Not voting - citi.zen, VisceraEyes, BloodyC0bbler
Day 2 has ended. RebirthofLegend will be lynched soon.
On July 03 2011 11:26 Ace wrote:Day 3
With 10 alive it is 6 to lynch
Caller (1) - LSB, ilovejohn, Kurumi, Palmar, Jackal58, citi.zen
Jackal58 - Chezinu
Not voting - Caller, Amber[Light], sandroba
Majority has been reached. Caller is about to be lynched.
On July 05 2011 13:10 youngminii wrote:Day 4 Votes
With 8 alive it is 5 to lynch
sandroba (3) - citi.zen, Kurumi, Palmar
Chezinu (1) - sandroba
Not voting yet - ilovejonn, LSB, Chezinu, Amber[LighT]
Day 4 ends on Wednesday July 6th @ 12AM ET/13:00 KST
Then LSB, Amber, and I voted respectively afterwards
My initial instincts:
On June 30 2011 06:07 Chezinu wrote:
So is this what we have so far?
RebirthOfLeGenD
ilovejonn
GMarshal
sandroba
Amber[LighT]
LSB
deconduo
Caller
Palmar
BloodyC0bbler
Fishball
Radfield
Chezinu
VisceraEyes
Scamp
GGQ
Jackal58
Kurumi
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ilovejonn's role supports LSB's role
LSB says he rolechecked me and it came back vanilla townie
LSB claims he shot RoL -- RoL said he was protected -- only medic claim was Kurumi -- Can you confirm this?
Jackal58 confirms Amber -- jackal58 says Amber is innocent, never mentioned a possibility that Amber could be mafia
citi.zen claims roles will be revealed with his role since he lived long enough (however this happened right after RoL, the Mafia Janitor died).
Palmar claims he is a virgin.
voting trends:
ilovejonn votes with LSB
innocent list:
LSB -- if medic can confirm protecting him (both ilj and kurumi can't be mafia)
Amber -- I guess all we can do is hope that Jackal58 new 100% that amber was innocent as explain in Amber's PMs.
conclusion:
If Kurumi says he did protect LSB then I will probably be inclined to look at Palmar and citi.zen.
If Kurumi says he didn't protect LSB then I will probably be inclined to look at ilj and LSB
Here are my thoughts from earlier that I didn't have time to explain:
On July 04 2011 17:07 Chezinu wrote:
sandroba vs Kurumi
and
ilovejonn and LSB vs Palmar and citi.zen
If ilovejonn and LSB -- ilovejonn would be lynched first
If Palmar and citi.zen -- Palmar would be lynched first
Just some ideas..
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also add to voting trends:
Palmar votes with citi.zen
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If Kurumi did protect RoL then why would Kurumi state that the only person he thought was innocent was citi.zen? hmm
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I come back and voting is over.. I even left yall with really good points. I guess being too good at guessing people's roles can get you killed..
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On July 07 2011 23:01 Kurumi wrote:
Also I disagree with shooting You tonight, I'd rather see ilj dead.
The two people who supported me are dead... I see what you did mafia.. to bad I wasn't here to point this out.. IT IS NOT MAFIA I FEAR BUT TOWN!!!
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Have you ever thought that I had two bombs on Palmar and citi.zen that is activated if I'm lynched? muhahaha
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liar list:
BC
Caller
LSB
Kurumi
Truth teller list:
Chezinu
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On July 09 2011 12:42 Ace wrote:
Also citi.zen made a great claim that was hard to deal with. He was an unconfirmed power role that made you guys believe he was confirmed and JeeJee was the only one to question it.
Now I'm convinced that no one reads my posts.. Let me unbury
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 03 2011 05:35 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 05:21 Kurumi wrote:On July 03 2011 05:18 Chezinu wrote:On July 01 2011 22:42 Chezinu wrote:
Well, Fishball can still save himself from being lynch tomorrow. I wasn't being completely serious about that list. What about citi.zen? Sandroba and Jack58 whom I have a town read on? I think You,Caller and Amber/Jonn are three scum remaining. You think there are 3 remaining instead of 2? Radfield was acting strange the whole time he played. Then citi.zen posted a strange post when he joined. Plus: As for sand, he hasn't been nice to me all game. Plus: Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 04:41 Jackal58 wrote:On June 28 2011 04:05 deconduo wrote:On June 28 2011 04:02 Jackal58 wrote:
Wow Ace sure did collect some of the most aggressive players here for this game. Giant elephant peni sparring with giant polish sausages. Should be a fun ride.
Just looking at meta on decon from the several games I've played with him I get the feeling he is town. He's not bashful straight out of the gate as a townie. He tends to be more subdued when he plays scum until late game. Good to know for my next game as mafia You'll forget. Sandroba is scum. Then Jack thought my list wasn't pretty enough, so I made adjustment. Jackal still is not satisfied with me. Hasn't been ever since.. If I mistakenly accused a blue of being red on accident rather than on purpose to protect them, then: Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 14:47 Chezinu wrote:
A flaw I have is that I have trouble discriminating people with blues roles vs being red. town list lovejonn sandroba Amber[LighT] LSB deconduo Caller Palmar citi.zen Chezinu Jackal58 Kurumi On July 03 2011 09:44 Chezinu wrote:
self claims so far:
Ilovejonn
sandroba
Amber[LighT]
LSB
Caller
Palmar
citi.zen
Chezinu
Jackal58
Kurumi
I don't think it wise for medic to claim green..
I'm considering citi.zen as scum again. Either A) he has good insight into people's align or B) he knows people's align because he is mafia.. not quite sure.. he is a clever fellow.. but he made the judgments rather rashly.. hmm On July 03 2011 11:45 Chezinu wrote:
Looks like only me and citi.zen saw through this,.. Seems he was telling the truth.. He really is a clever fellow! Too bad the rest of town killed in haste. On July 03 2011 11:48 Chezinu wrote:
DIE citi.zen DIE!!!! Poor excuse for killing Caller when you previously stated that you thought both Fishball and Caller were innocent! Your no policy lyncher!! YOU THINK YOU CAN GET TOWN TO LYNCH ME??? DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!! On July 03 2011 11:50 Chezinu wrote:Serious Detective That's right! I'm not afraid of you!! citi.zen DIE DIE DIE I totally think that citi.zen is mafia! On July 03 2011 11:54 Chezinu wrote:
Caller's role obv got flipped. So citi,zen why did you kill Caller -- why did you change your mind? On July 03 2011 12:15 Chezinu wrote:YOU MAFIAS ARE SO CRUEL! First you killed GGQ... THAT IS A MOVE I WOULD MAKE! I GOT YOUR MESSAGE! GG...YEAH WELL I HOPE YOUR HAPPY!!! Going for the blue roles...knowing full well that the begining posters had roles... THEN YOU KILLED MY TEAM MEMBERS!!! FIRST SUICIDAL SCAMP!!!! THEN LEGENDARY REBIRTHOFLEGEND!! YOU KILLED YOUR OWN KIND IN SPITE OF ME!!! THEN YOU KILLED FISHBALL, WHOM I SECRETLY LOVED DESPITE HIS STINCH!! BUT WORST OF ALL, YOU HAD TO KILL CALLER!!!!! WHO DO I HAVE LEFT!!! WHOO??? ARE YOU GOING TO KILL THEM TOO??? ARE YOU GOING TO USE MY INNOCENTS AGAINST ME??? ARE YOU GOING TO CALL ME A GODFATHER?? If you can make me godfather and let me join your team -- I surely will! IF YOU KILL ME TONIGHT, KNOW THIS: YOU MAY MISS THE MOST EPIC MAFIA ENDING EVER!!! DON'T PRETEND YOU ARE SLEEPING AND CANT HEAR ME!! I KNOW YOUR AWAKE!!! YOUR GOING ABOUT THIS TOWN THIS VERY MOMENT TRYING TO KILL YOUR NEXT VICTIM!!! IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO KILL ANYONE TONIGHT JUST IN SPITE OF ME THEN GO AHEAD!!!! DO IT!!! I WANT YOU TOO!!! On July 07 2011 22:25 Chezinu wrote:ilovejonn's role supports LSB's role LSB says he rolechecked me and it came back vanilla townie LSB claims he shot RoL -- RoL said he was protected -- only medic claim was Kurumi -- Can you confirm this? Jackal58 confirms Amber -- jackal58 says Amber is innocent, never mentioned a possibility that Amber could be mafia citi.zen claims roles will be revealed with his role since he lived long enough (however this happened right after RoL, the Mafia Janitor died).Palmar claims he is a virgin. voting trends: ilovejonn votes with LSB innocent list: LSB -- if medic can confirm protecting him (both ilj and kurumi can't be mafia) Amber -- I guess all we can do is hope that Jackal58 new 100% that amber was innocent as explain in Amber's PMs. conclusion: If Kurumi says he did protect LSB then I will probably be inclined to look at Palmar and citi.zen. If Kurumi says he didn't protect LSB then I will probably be inclined to look at ilj and LSB Here are my thoughts from earlier that I didn't have time to explain: Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 17:07 Chezinu wrote:
sandroba vs Kurumi
and
ilovejonn and LSB vs Palmar and citi.zen
If ilovejonn and LSB -- ilovejonn would be lynched first
If Palmar and citi.zen -- Palmar would be lynched first
Just some ideas..
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That was a good role claim citi.zen. I was highly convinced you were mafia that I was going to (well started to) fake claim serious Detective. But then I got hesitant because roles were flipping -- but I did notice it happened right after RoL died. I should spammed that you were mafia..
Just curious, was it your plan to paint me as godfather as I stated in the thread? That what it seemed like from my perspective. Every death seemed like a setup to get me lynched.
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On July 09 2011 15:12 citi.zen wrote:
5. Chez scares me more than anyone else when I am red and he is town. From the moment I joined it was my number one goal to get rid of him one way or another. His day 1 list of suspects is clear evidence he maphacks. He also immediately thought of questioning my role claim, or at least very clearly state that a role =/= alignment.
I love taunting mafia, lol!!! But it does come with a price. It makes people suspicious of me.
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On July 09 2011 15:26 citi.zen wrote:
Oh yeah, I even said as few times I thought you were GF. I wanted you either shot by LSB or lynched, so I tried to discredit you as much as I could. And I did notice the serious detective bread crumb - that unsettled me a bit :-)
The mistake I made --> I should have listen to myself more. I find it hard for me to go with my instincts when I'm a vanilla townie.
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I did have a major advantage this game:
I didn't get my role PM until 13:24
So I knew the following had red/blue roles (GGQ got his role before me but was after me on the player list):
GGQ
GM
Fishball
That's why I knew GM was mafia when ask earlier in the thread. Initially, I thought Fishball was vigi and I quoted him at one point and sent him a hidden message to shoot GM. You had to click the smiley face. That's why I was inclined to believe Caller was telling the truth and helped me somewhat believe Fishball's role claim. I was really surprised Fishball lived past night 2. If I was mafia, I totally would have killed him after GGQ since he confirmed so early.
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Oh and what made me initial suspicious of Rad was that he was the only one who asked me if I killed GM.
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Oh I also that GM was mafia because he was the first one who wanted to lynch me. An easy target for mafia -- just like chaoser.
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On July 09 2011 15:44 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 15:36 Chezinu wrote:
I did have a major advantage this game:
I didn't get my role PM until 13:24
So I knew the following had red/blue roles (GGQ got his role before me but was after me on the player list):
GGQ
GM
Fishball
That's why I knew GM was mafia when ask earlier in the thread. Initially, I thought Fishball was vigi and I quoted him at one point and sent him a hidden message to shoot GM. You had to click the smiley face. That's why I was inclined to believe Caller was telling the truth and helped me somewhat believe Fishball's role claim. I was really surprised Fishball lived past night 2. If I was mafia, I totally would have killed him after GGQ since he confirmed so early. ROLF - do you have that post?
here:
On June 25 2011 19:48 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 13:32 Fishball wrote:On June 25 2011 13:27 Ace wrote:
Everyone should have gotten a role PM. If you didn't send myself or YM a PM asap. Game *officially* starts in 23.5 hours, but you can start discussing things now.
REMEMBER WE START AT NIGHT 0!
Good Luck! Can't we just start the blood shed now. This is boring. I think night 0 is going to be big!
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Posted right after I said this:
On June 25 2011 19:47 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 19:42 sandroba wrote:
Can I ask you the same? You pretty much shaped up after GM called for your lynch on his first post. What's your opinion on him so far? Leaning mafia. I think he will probably die tonight.
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Another reason I was suspicious of sand was that he supported GM.
So really, the only reason I had a good mafia list was because Ace sent me a role pm too late and people confirmed before I got it. It was like telling me who was who. From that I was able to build upon. GM -> sand and also rad questioning if I hit Gm.. etc the only one I didn't have anything on was RoL but I kind of didn't want to analyze him because I like him too much.
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If you noticed from the very beginning every mafia member talked to me, either wanting to lynch me or in RoL's case defend me. Geez, every time I post I realize I have something else to say..
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On July 09 2011 15:52 Ace wrote:
k thats nice but you didn't actually try to convince anyone of it
also the first few role PMs were only about 2 minutes apart. At best you'd know that Caller, duo, Fishball and all the Mafia got their role PMs before anyone else.
true. I didn't want to post the PM information because I thought that would be cheating. That was the reason why I knew what I knew. To everyone else, I was going on "thin evidence".
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On July 09 2011 16:00 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 15:48 Chezinu wrote:On July 09 2011 15:44 citi.zen wrote:On July 09 2011 15:36 Chezinu wrote:
I did have a major advantage this game:
I didn't get my role PM until 13:24
So I knew the following had red/blue roles (GGQ got his role before me but was after me on the player list):
GGQ
GM
Fishball
That's why I knew GM was mafia when ask earlier in the thread. Initially, I thought Fishball was vigi and I quoted him at one point and sent him a hidden message to shoot GM. You had to click the smiley face. That's why I was inclined to believe Caller was telling the truth and helped me somewhat believe Fishball's role claim. I was really surprised Fishball lived past night 2. If I was mafia, I totally would have killed him after GGQ since he confirmed so early. ROLF - do you have that post? here: On June 25 2011 19:48 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2011 13:32 Fishball wrote:On June 25 2011 13:27 Ace wrote:
Everyone should have gotten a role PM. If you didn't send myself or YM a PM asap. Game *officially* starts in 23.5 hours, but you can start discussing things now.
REMEMBER WE START AT NIGHT 0!
Good Luck! Can't we just start the blood shed now. This is boring. I think night 0 is going to be big! That's so awesome. And, sadly, part of the reason people don't trust you: most of us can't keep up! I am curious if FB even got that message.
Well, I guess I shouldn't have trolled -- I gave in after I noticed that Caller was trolling.. Plus, people in town were telling me how sad they were I wasn't trolling (Kurrumi and sand are ones I recall).
I should have played more aggressive and spammed the thread with my suspects. That's the only method I know that get people to believe me.
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On July 09 2011 16:11 sandroba wrote:
S2 chezinu. If I were town I would have told you to troll the same way.
I find it too much fun to do so. I like to joke around while playing. If I think someone is mafia for instance, I would taunt them. In PM games, I would spam messages to them. Next game, I will be way more aggressive and trust myself more. ARGH!! If only I had more confidence!
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On July 10 2011 00:38 citi.zen wrote:
There's no way this set-up was mafia favored in my opinion.
I agree. I think it was the modkills and town lies that was mafia favored. I made a list of people that lied earlier in the thread.
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