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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Day 6 - End Game ![[image loading]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Z4HYnLZkVRM/SLHh77HSqjI/AAAAAAAAAVs/lqjhKNQeME0/s320/Grim-Reaper-see+ya.jpg) As the 3 final player's have a Mexican standoff citi.zen convinces Palmar to aim his gun at JeeJee instead. JeeJee pleads with Palmar to listen to his case but Palmar rubs his eyes groggily and says "What?". Convinced of JeeJee's guilt both of them pull the trigger. As the blood runs down the street... + Show Spoiler + citi.zen the Scum Doctor scalpels Palmar in the back! JeeJee the Forensic Scientist has been murdered Palmar the Virgin has been End Gamed by the Scum team GG Mafia win! | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
Ace you're a cruel being for suggesting I sub in here :< I did not know what I was getting myself into gg | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
citi.zen, I had my faith in you. Knew you could pull this off and the results did not disappoint. LOL. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On July 09 2011 12:26 JeeJee wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2979/effdischiz.gif) If only I was better at this fucking game. Someone teach me how to convince people :< Well you made a solid case but Palmar just didn't read it objectively. On July 09 2011 12:29 Palmar wrote: could be. Really fucking sucks in that case how damn stupidly suspicious ILJ played the entire game. He messed up a few times but he wasn't that bad. Honestly the argument between you and VisceraEyes day 2 I think was REALLY bad. RebirthofLegend slipped up a lot of times in the midst of it and neither of you caught it. It was so bad that he made a post about Vigilantes and should have been brought up on it because it was honestly beyond stupid and Scummy when he said it. Luckily for the Town LSB and Fishball caught on to it because they were actually READING the thread and not tunneling everyone. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On July 09 2011 12:34 JeeJee wrote: I fucking suck, if only it clicked earlier. Ace you're a cruel being for suggesting I sub in here :< I did not know what I was getting myself into gg You did well, and played in a calmly manner. Can't really think of what else you could have said or brought up. Too bad you had no audience. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
When I'm uncertain I listen to other people. Half the town had called ILJ scum, and no one had called citi.zen/ILJ scum. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
JeeJee, you were impressive as hell, that was a very solid argument and a strong persuasive conclusion. Too bad it was ignored. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
Sorry JeeJee the inconsistencies got me too riled up. I was pretty sure I was next to die. I thought that would have put some signals in some peoples minds. Palmar just because I dress up a turd doesn't mean it's a turkey dinner. You're easy to pursuade  | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
What citi.zen done is use the Scum information advantage along with his brain: no one knew that RoL dying is what made everyone else flip after except Scum. So citi.zen fake claimed a role that might be in the game. It was a good play. Then JeeJee said it can't be in the game because RoL survived a mimic shot from LSB. This was also smart because really why didn't anyone stop and think how the hell RoL lived? Once GGQ was outted as a dead medic this should have been hammered home. JeeJee correctly guessed there is a Scum Doctor. Of course citi.zen just rode Palmar to victory after finally offing the only confirmed innocent - Amber[Light]. It was a fun game to observe but at the same time some of you have to work on your scum hunting skills - a lot. JeeJee and citi.zen replaced into the game and showed more thought about the overall picture, did better reading and actually used what was given to them and what came out in the thread to try to win more effectively than half the people playing. Shameful because some of you that played in the game should have done at least a credible job of putting some simple stuff together. RoL surviving a hit and LSB dying flipping innocent should have been a big wtf happened that night. Caller, BC and Kurumi just show that lying to Town when you're a Townie is beyond stupid. What a clusterfuck of nonsense. On July 09 2011 12:39 Palmar wrote: You were never going to convince me btw. When I'm uncertain I listen to other people. Half the town had called ILJ scum, and no one had called citi.zen/ILJ scum. and why does that matter? Being innocent =/= being right. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
CC Mafia 14 town 2 Vigilante (2 shots each) - deconduo, Caller 1 Cop - Fishball 1 Busy Paramedic - GGQ 1 Forensic Scientist - ilovejohn (JeeJee) 1 JOAT (Investigate (normal cop), Shoot, Watch, Prot, Mimic) - LSB 2 Masons (1 recruiting) Amber[Light] 1 Virgin - Hessmyr (Palmar) 6 VT - BC, Jackal, Kurumi, Chezinu, Chaoser (VisceraEyes), Scamp 4 Scum 1 Roleblocker - GMarshal 1 Janitor - RebirthofLegend 1 Lawyer - sandroba 1 Scum Doctor - Radfield Janitor/FS are informed that the other checked a body out on the same night. Not informed of the other's identity. -------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to Closed Casket Mafia! Your role is Vanilla Townie! As the Scum inch closer and closer to taking over Liquidia your only ability is to vote them out during the day. While you may not have any special powers you are the backbone of the town so do your best! You win with the Town by destroying all of the Mafia. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Recruiter Mason! These are dangerous times in the Town of Liquidia. You trust your instincts but you know need help. On Night 1 you can choose 1 person to Mason to for the rest of the game. This will allow both of you to PM each other all game. However, you also have the option of lettting me randomly assign you a partner that will be CONFIRMED Town. It is your choice. You win with the Town by destroying all of the Mafia. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Vigilante! To hell with the Mafia. To hell with Townies who aren't brave enough to take the law into their own hands. You stand alone as the only one with balls big enough in Liquidia to wield a shotgun. Starting Night 0 you can choose to shoot anyone you feel like. Unfortunately, you bought your gun from some shady Iraqis and can only shoot it twice. However these bullets are magic - if your target dies by other means you get them back! Those Iraqis really want to make sure shit dies. You win with the Town by destroying all of the Mafia. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Cop! The quintissential paragon of justice in this corrupt town. Like all donut wielding soldiers of the law you have the ability to investigate suspects. If you find a member of the Mafia you will get a GUILTY result on your target. Otherwise you will get an INNOCENT result. You win with the Town by destroying all of the Mafia. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Busy Paramedic! An experienced savior of lives fresh from the Army! If there's one thing you learned in the war it's that staying in one place for too long is a bad idea. You can protect 1 person a night but not on consecutive nights. If that player is attacked you will save their life unless the number of attackers is more than you can handle (1). You win with the Town by destroying all of the Mafia. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Forensic Scientist! Checking dead bodies is your thing and if past experience tells you anything Liquidia will have plenty. At the beginning of the day you may PM me to ask the identity of ANY dead player in the graveyard. You will get the name of their role and alignment returned to you. Sometimes you may get additional information on things going on in the graveyard... You win with the Town by destroying all of the Mafia. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. mod note* - The FS and the Janitor will both be informed of another body being moved out of the Graveyard. They will know the name of the body but not who moved them. In the event that they both check the same body it will appear that the other checked the body to both players. Your role is Virgin! Well...life isn't always grand for everyone. As your pent up energy keeps you tightly wound up it also has a mysterious side effect: If you are lynched then everyone in Liquidia will mourn your death. The following night no one in the Town will be able to die. You win with the Town by destroying all of the Mafia. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Jack Of All Trades! Master of none...except kicking ASS! You've been through numerous encounters with Scum and through the years have honed your abilities for dealing with all kinds of situations. You come to the town of Liquidia with 5 abilities: 1.) Investigate - standard investigation of a player that shows whether they are INNOCENT or GUILTY 2.) Shoot - standard brutality that allows you to remove some poor snob from the game 3.) Watch - allows you to watch a player and see who brings them cookies or death that night 4.) Protect - typical medical abilities that allow you to save a life. You can not protect yourself. 5.) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/new.gif) Mimic - the hell is this? You can target a player for fun and Mimic whatever action they did the previous night. You also send me the name of a second player to target with your new powers!You can use each ability once. You win with the Town by destroying all of the Mafia. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Roleblocker! Another day, another town to destroy. You and your cohorts [] have landed in Liquidia and aim to kill every soul. Your ability to intimidate people has prepared you for this very journey. At Night you can stop a player from carrying out an action and they will be informed of this. You get bored easily so you'd rather not punk the same target 2 nights in a row. You win when you outnumber the Town or there is no way for them to stop you from doing so. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Janitor! Cleaning up is what you do best. As you and your scum buddies [] know best, an uninformed town is a dead town. During the day you can PM me to see any dead bodies in the graveyard and get their role. As you are the guy cleaning up all the dead bodies if you die then all future deaths will be revealed with their roles and alignment. Sometimes you may also get additional information on things going on in the Graveyard... You win when you outnumber the Town or there is no way for them to stop you from doing so. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. mod note* - The FS and the Janitor will both be informed of another body being moved out of the Graveyard. They will know the name of the body but not who moved them. In the event that they both check the same body it will appear that the other checked the body to both players. Your role is Lawyer! Sleazy, Greedy, Manipulative - and thats just on your lazy days. As a paid of servant of the public you have the ability to make even the Scummiest people [] look Innocent to the law. Every night you can visit a player and if they are Investigated they will look Innocent. You can't visit the same player 2 Nights in a row. Amazingly Liquidia is on some bullshit and won't let you represent yourself in a court of law - you can't make yourself look Innocent. You win when you outnumber the Town or there is no way for them to stop you from doing so. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. Your role is Scum Doctor! As a medical man on the wrong side of one too many malpractice cases you've allied your interests with the Mafia. You'd rather see [] live than to see Liquidia hike up insurance rates again. Each night you can protect a person from 1 hit and they will live unless the number of hits is greater than you can stop. You can't target yourself though as you're scared to self operate - those malpractice accusations are there for a reason. You win when you outnumber the Town or there is no way for them to stop you from doing so. Good luck! Type /confirm in the thread once you've finished reading this. ----------------------------------------- Night 0: Caller shoots GMarshal Fishball checks BC GGQ prots RoL Radfield prots RoL RoL hits GGQ GM Roleblock GGQ Sand covers GM (lawyer) LSB(JoaT) prots BC GM dies GGQ dies Fishball gets back Innocent Day 1: Rol and ilovejohn check GGQs body and gets back Busy Paramedic Day 1 ends in a No Lynch Night 1: Amber[Light] masoned to Jackal58 LSB mimics RoL to Rol: results in A.) ROL being shot and B.) LSB getting a "your check on the dead body has returned an inconclusive result" Fishball checks RoL gets back Guilty sandroba covers Radfield Radfield protects RoL RoL hits Scamp Day 2: RoL checks Scamp's body Ilovejohn checks deconduo RoL is lynched Night 2: Caller shoots BC sandroba shoots Fishball sandroba covers citi.zen citi.zen protects sandroba LSB watches BloodyC0bbler Fishball checks ilovejohn Day 3: ilj checks RoL Night 3: LSB Investigates Chezinu citi.zen hits Jackal58 sandroba covers citi.zen Day 4: sandroba is lynched Night 4: citi.zen shoots LSB LSB shoots Kurumi Day 5: JeeJee checks Scamp's body Chezinu is lynched Night 5: citi.zen shoots Amber[Light] Day 6: JeeJee checks GMarshal | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On July 09 2011 12:42 Ace wrote: Also citi.zen made a great claim that was hard to deal with. He was an unconfirmed power role that made you guys believe he was confirmed and JeeJee was the only one to question it. What citi.zen done is use the Scum information advantage along with his brain: no one knew that RoL dying is what made everyone else flip after except Scum. So citi.zen fake claimed a role that might be in the game. It was a good play. Then JeeJee said it can't be in the game because RoL survived a mimic shot from LSB. This was also smart because really why didn't anyone stop and think how the hell RoL lived? Once GGQ was outted as a dead medic this should have been hammered home. JeeJee correctly guessed there is a Scum Doctor. Of course citi.zen just rode Palmar to victory after finally offing the only confirmed innocent - Amber[Light]. It was a fun game to observe but at the same time some of you have to work on your scum hunting skills - a lot. JeeJee and citi.zen replaced into the game and showed more thought about the overall picture, did better reading and actually used what was given to them and what came out in the thread to try to win more effectively than half the people playing. Shameful because some of you that played in the game should have done at least a credible job of putting some simple stuff together. RoL surviving a hit and LSB dying flipping innocent should have been a big wtf happened that night. Caller, BC and Kurumi just show that lying to Town when you're a Townie is beyond stupid. What a clusterfuck of nonsense. and why does that matter? Being innocent =/= being right. Hmm I don't think citi.zen was ever considered confirmed by anyone but Kurumi. As presented in both the cases by Amber and myself, ILJ had slipped up several times over the course of the game. So what do I do when he gets replaced by someone that suddenly starts making sense? In my opinion, and this is obviously because of my own inexperience, but in my opinion I simply had to read back and take a gutshot. Now of course it was obvious to every observer that I was going for the wrong target, but to me it wasn't, and given Amber's very strong case against JeeJee, I just went with it. Yes, I did read JeeJee's defense, and it almost turned me around. And yes, of course being innocent doesn't mean they're right. But to me it wasn't obvious which of them was the scum, so taking a look at other people's opinions is a good way. They reached the conclusion with an honest mind, so why shouldn't I. I used the same kind of logic to catch Wiggles in RTM. I thought he was scum but couldn't put my finger on it, and with only like 2-3 hours till the lynch there was no time to build a case. So I just threw together 10 lines of stuff, and then credited like 4 other townies who had FoS'd him at some point. Very often the collective thought is better than your individual one, or that's my experience. Wiggles was the mafia Godfather. But yeah, this sucks, and I'm sorry. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
But if you're going to be wrong at least be open to both sides of an argument during LYLO. If you're alive towards end game and the Scum haven't even attempted to NK you, usually that means you were doing something wrong. Step back and just piece stuff together yourself, and THEN look at what everyone else was saying. Most importantly look at what the competent dead people were saying and try to make a judgment. Listening to Caller or Kurumi in this game wouldn't have gotten you anywhere. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
I usually give exactly that a thought, but what was the scum (doesn't matter if it's JeeJee or citi.zen) going to do anyway? Amber, just like myself, had made it perfectly clear that he wanted to kill off JeeJee in the morning. I called for his opinion in the night to make sure he wasn't having second thoughts, cause I was. And trust me, I read it. I may have read it with an incredibly biased mind, but I always read. The thing about RoL's hit still bugged me, but I assumed it simply had some other explanation. I read it and promptly decided to ignore it. Yes, I still have this mindset of where I'm not sure I just stick to my guns and soldier on. I probably should drop that mindset. Anyway, I wish we hadn't gotten so many stupid town kills, cause we really could've used less derp to guide this town. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
I wish you had joined the game without writing that post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10168502 Because once you started gunning for citi.zen instead of me, I simply looked at it the way "oh, he thinks I'm easier to convince than citi.zen/amber, and since he's scum he doesn't really care who he kills" To me it felt like you were just grasping at straws, trying to get anyone to believe you. Obviously you were, but in a completely different way than I expected. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On July 09 2011 00:47 JeeJee wrote: Hold on I think I'm looking at this game all wrong... Palmar if it's all the same to you don't hammer your vote on me right away. We could have won if I played better I think =\ Ah well, live and learn. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
I was never going to change my mind after that. | ||
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