EPTTL Mafia XLII - Page 45
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
FudgeMunkey has been actively lurking all game. He posts nothing of content, but instantly responded to the light pressure that I applied day 2, before going back to lurking. He voted sinani day 1 and ROL day 2. He has yet to weigh in on any of the major lynches, or provide much of an opinion on anything. I'll have a more detailed analysis when I'm less tired, too lazy to go through his posts now. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Out of the lurkers, landenc seems the most scummy to me. Fudgemunkey seems like a townie that became bored towards the later stages. Vote going to landenc for now. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
I talked a lot and have been very cautious as to what I say when. I am not going to find a log on every single thing that was said or lead to what happened tonight. You may have reasons to mistrust my judgement, but not to mistrust me. As it stands, the following happened: As it happened I masoned Sandroba because of his plan. Much later, I asked him what his read on me was. He answered, but found the question weird. I proceed to tell him I´m blue. He fosses me and tells RoL my claim. I explain a bit further, starting to make sense, and he goes "Oh shit, I just did something stupid. I told RoL you´re blue" RoL answered him he actually thought I was blue. As I told Sandro I am indeed a Veteran everything was happy after that, since if RoL was scum i would be sure to get hit that night. Alas it happened so. Facts:
Correct me if I´m wrong, but I think scamp was masoned to RoL? Might misremember, but it´s not that important anway. If I only had gotten hit, I wouldn´t be this sure. But as Sandroba died too, and Sandroba and me make up the only 2 mafia hits this night, AFTER Sandroba slipped my blueness to RoL, I am convinced: Rebirth of Legend is scum
Discussion should obviously revolve around other suspects, but votes should land on RoL ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
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FudgeMunkey
Australia59 Posts
I may be have been lurking for most of the game, but at least I'm reading through most the posts and at least half contributing! Unlike other lurkers who just watch, post something so they don't get mod killed and then go back into lurking mode... | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Mataza you sly dog. Taking out Node and RoL back to back will be sweet. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On June 21 2011 13:45 Mataza wrote: Any other questions towards my actions? If not good, if yes mason me. I talked a lot and have been very cautious as to what I say when. I am not going to find a log on every single thing that was said or lead to what happened tonight. You may have reasons to mistrust my judgement, but not to mistrust me. As it stands, the following happened: As it happened I masoned Sandroba because of his plan. Much later, I asked him what his read on me was. He answered, but found the question weird. I proceed to tell him I´m blue. He fosses me and tells RoL my claim. I explain a bit further, starting to make sense, and he goes "Oh shit, I just did something stupid. I told RoL you´re blue" RoL answered him he actually thought I was blue. As I told Sandro I am indeed a Veteran everything was happy after that, since if RoL was scum i would be sure to get hit that night. Alas it happened so. Facts:
Correct me if I´m wrong, but I think scamp was masoned to RoL? Might misremember, but it´s not that important anway. If I only had gotten hit, I wouldn´t be this sure. But as Sandroba died too, and Sandroba and me make up the only 2 mafia hits this night, AFTER Sandroba slipped my blueness to RoL, I am convinced: Rebirth of Legend is scum
Discussion should obviously revolve around other suspects, but votes should land on RoL ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend I currently have 5 masons, well 4 now that sandroba is dead. I never thought you were blue and I don't even recall the conversation he referenced. I seriously just looked through our skype log and found nothing except him showing part of a PM you received and me saying how it was the same line I saw syllogism say. Your case is shit. My entire mason the shit out of me and lie about it plan was just to make sure I drew a medic night 0, or scared the mafia off from hitting me. I did actually pressure people who were masoned to me. I harassed sandroba and got a town read off of him, I set a trap for aidnai (if he were scum) and he passed it. Youngminii somehow is constantly failing to properly add me on skype so I can speak to him, and the other 2 people I am masoned with one can't get onto skype and the other I refuse to try to analyze due to the sheer difficulty of it. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
As completely as you've forgotten the conversation with Sandroba, it had to have happened...because he found it disturbing enough to confess to Mataza that he told you. Outing your masons at this point only serves to make you look desperate and graspy. Maybe instead of trust you, we trust the confirmed blue? | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On top of that, just because someone is confirmed blue doesn't mean he is right. His opinions are only as valid as his competency. As far as I see his entire case revolves around this one little ploy with sandroba which I honestly didn't even realize. Also, him saying I thought he was blue is a straight up lie. I pointed out how I thought he was red several times in this thread. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
~OpZ~ Soft Endorses RoL Plan + Show Spoiler + On June 15 2011 07:19 ~OpZ~ wrote: While I will gladly admit your amazing mafia hunting skills....Do you think by the end of night 0 you can find all the mafia by having mafia PM you. I'd be glad to mason you, but I feel it'd be a waste of time when I see your name pop up dead tomorrow.....Should I mason with BC instead? I like BC. BC's nice. Lol. Slow Down There, Killer! + Show Spoiler + On June 16 2011 13:24 ~OpZ~ wrote: No. I feel we have a very real possibility of a mafia between Sinani, aidnai, and ILJ....I'm fine with either one of their lynches.... The rest of the town does need to post. RoL needs to suddenly appear. Sinani...You ever gonna mason me...? On June 16 2011 13:43 ~OpZ~ wrote: Good. Then You're a fine lynch candidate. I'm voting you. You have sucessfully completed 9 out of 10 scummy things. The tenth is to die red. The Wagon That ~OpZ~ Built + Show Spoiler + On June 17 2011 06:25 ~OpZ~ wrote: Sinani was defending ILJ....actually...which is why I said lynching sinani would be a good idea....But ILJ said he would be afk for much of the weak, which means he should be the one to die. Stop pushing it away from him. On June 17 2011 06:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:We vote for who we feel is scummier. Not who we don't need more. Vote for ILJ please. He's going to be afk anyway, he went to lurker mode after other "suspects" appeared. He was defended early on by sinani, whom many have considered suspicious too. Can we just move on to killing him now? *quote someone voting GG* ...Wrong vote. I want ILJ voted for. Not GrassGiraffe. Come the F' on guys. On June 17 2011 06:35 ~OpZ~ wrote: They will NOT SEE HIM as an example. Please, change your vote to ILJ. Stop being a SHEEP. On June 17 2011 06:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: Change your vote now, as opposed to later, when inactives come rolling in to bandwagon the person with the most votes to "feel" cool. On June 17 2011 07:01 ~OpZ~ wrote: Because...It's been done a million times. Hell, BC and INCOG have done it before. "I'll be away for XXXX because of XXXX"...Good. Let's let one inactive get lynched, and the other inactive get away with it because he said he'd be inactive. I've even done that as mafia. I want him GONE because of that. BC, have you not done that as mafia? Do you not find that suspicious? How many of us have done that to add credit to our "inactivity" despite the fact that we were very active within our mafia circle. Why switch from one inactive, to another? How about you answer that? Still on the radar is a relative term. Lots of mafia get away that way, and switching to a random inactive at the request of a possible God Father candidate? Good Job guys. And Now For Something Completely Different... + Show Spoiler + On June 17 2011 09:28 ~OpZ~ wrote: Welcome back ilj....I'll change my vote from you, as long as you keep that quality of posting up. How do you feel about Hiro...? On June 17 2011 09:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: Actually...Lemme take a look at the voting thread, and shraft...As long as you remain active at the times you say I'll be fine with that. I work to...7 AM EST to 3 and or 12 (noon) EST most days. So I understand. But I'm not gonna take my eyes off of you. I'm sure you understand good sir. On June 17 2011 09:44 ~OpZ~ wrote: I'm removing my vote from ILJ and placing it on Shraft, because I don't feel I can get the wagon moved to Hiro. ILJ's sudden increase in posting has made me reconsider that he was just using it as an excuse and trying to hide. I think he should be given a few more days with his increase in scum hunting, and I promise to put more effort into looking for a new suspect in a little. Given with the time constraint, I'm going to move to someone that has voted for him, and trust a little in his gut. I follow my gut often enough. If you survive ILJ, I would consider communicating with you. What did he just say? + Show Spoiler + On June 20 2011 12:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: drats....why you gonna take my kp like that? Overall, my guess is ~OpZ~ is SCUM. I offer him up as a vig-hit tonight, along with my vote on RoL. Discuss. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On June 21 2011 16:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I currently have 5 masons, well 4 now that sandroba is dead. I never thought you were blue and I don't even recall the conversation he referenced. I seriously just looked through our skype log and found nothing except him showing part of a PM you received and me saying how it was the same line I saw syllogism say. Your case is shit. My entire mason the shit out of me and lie about it plan was just to make sure I drew a medic night 0, or scared the mafia off from hitting me. I did actually pressure people who were masoned to me. I harassed sandroba and got a town read off of him, I set a trap for aidnai (if he were scum) and he passed it. Youngminii somehow is constantly failing to properly add me on skype so I can speak to him, and the other 2 people I am masoned with one can't get onto skype and the other I refuse to try to analyze due to the sheer difficulty of it. Of course you don´t remember and can´t find any of it. Just as much as you don´t know who the other mafia players are. I literally only told Sandroba of this plan, so the probability of it leaking into scum ears was around 0% Unless Sandroba lied to me, which I think is unlikely. Or *you* told someone else, but your defense is you didn´t even know I am blue. The only other person aware of my masonings got exactly this at the start of day I´m doing my best to get myself known as blue role to red circles. Maybe a little too much. I PM´ed Sandroba a very short message. I think if he´s scum I will get a bullet finally tonight^^ Do you have any clear town reads? I´m thinking about breadcrumbing an innocent check. I have no reason to distrust anything what Sandroba said. My other contact was´nt even aware I talked with Sandroba at all beyond one first message. Since I didn´t tell anybody else, the only other explanation for me and Sandroba getting hit is coincidence. Yesterday we had 18 players, minus 6 scum so 12 townies. Statistically, the chance of one player getting hit was 8.33% Leaves 11 other people, so the chance of getting hit was abot 9.09% 2 specific people getting shot is the bomination of those 2 chances, or 0.75%, less than 1 % That´s comparable to flipping a coin and getting Heads 9 times in a row. Amazing coincidence, right? Or alternatively everything happened as I described and scum to decided to off a blue(me) and the guy who told them he was blue(Sandroba). There is of course the option that I was a good hit based on the thread, but in my experience my thread presence makes me a decent lynch target more than anything else. The scum shooting Sandroba and me based on thread presence is the most random thing ever, if you discard my explanation. So either randomness, randomness or pure calculating intent which already lead to 3 blue snipes. I don´t think scum got 3 blue snipes by guessing them all. They at least had solid claims via PM at 2 of them. Stop resisting RoL, you are going down tonight and hopefully even flip godfather. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
lynching opz or rol is nothing more than a crapshoot get a lurker, the lurkers at this stage are just scummy as all hell landenc (and probably demorcerf) would have been modkilled for inactivity if they weren't mafia, the fact that they are keeps them coming back to make one single post obvious lynches | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On June 21 2011 18:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Can someone who is not retarded please do an analysis. Obvious misdirection is obvious. If you want to debunk my analysis, perhaps you could do it intelligently instead of insultingly? You're only proving my point otherwise. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
proven activity. Mah bad. | ||
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