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Also Kav I just want to point this out despite how I hate using Meta
OriginalName has played enough games to know better than that.
I want you to find one game where Ive played decently as town. Off the top my head ive been:
-D1 Mayor lynched (by you)
-Shot by mafia for confusion
-Really inactive minigame
-Subbed out
Your just bullshitting now, I'm trying to improve but using this as evidence is really weak.
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At home figuring out a defense will post it tonight.
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On June 08 2011 03:51 Kavdragon wrote: OriginalName, where are you?
I feel like that's been the theme of your play this game. Say one thing, do the opposite. Why are you not defending yourself?
School, where I have no access to TL.
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Palmer
Since you guys want an alternate lynch target I give you one.
First and foremost:
On June 08 2011 01:15 Palmar wrote: Very little discussion going on at the moment.
I agree that OriginalName is very scummy at the moment. The main thing that sticks out to me is him insisting he always plays bad town. I always find it very suspicious when people play the "I'm bad" card (or the more popular alternative, "I'm new") as their defense.
Instead of commenting on some meta, why not step up your game and actually provide an alternative. If you are town you now have the responsibility to explain why you are not scum, and try to tell us why you should not be lynched.
##Vote OriginalName
On June 06 2011 09:14 Palmar wrote: The lack of discussion is slightly disturbing.
Sinani206 hadn't contributed anything, but his death seems to come too easily... I don't know.
I'm going to start with something I learned from Kav, clearly making it known that your reading the thread and then doing nothing.
Palmer on two occasions has pointed out a lack of disscussion and then clearly does not add anything else. In the first case he just parrots Kavdragon on my first notion of defense and the second he once again points out the obvious.
On June 06 2011 10:43 Palmar wrote: I think sinani's death would've been too quiet.
##Unvote ##Vote OriginalName
Where's the reasoning behind this? That is filler bullshit to climb onto a wagon, at least when I stayed there I gave my reasons.
Most of his posts are not much longer than this and hes asking for more disscussion. Theres a Contradiction he asks and never gives.
On June 07 2011 18:26 Palmar wrote: I still don't feel right about youngminii, voting against a townie lynch doesn't absolve you. if ON flips green it'll much less absolve you.
ON's defense is really shitty in my opinion, claiming that he's always bad at town is just... not how you should defend yourself.
I need to re-read a bit, will have a big post coming up later.
Still no big post up, parroting about my defense. etc.
This is the entirety of this recent posting history, im going to leave the prior incident out for now.
You guys can make the call on him,
But my call is SCUM
##Vote Palmer
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On June 08 2011 08:51 dementrio wrote: Originalname, what do you think of youngmiini and kavdragon?
Kav is town for all the right reasons.
YoungMini i have no damn clue sometimes hes town but always I have that sneaking suspicion of scum deapite what people might want to believe about yesterday.
I still think Palmer is a better lynch.
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My Defense:
Id like to first of all point out some similarities between today and yesterday:
-This bandwagon is being formed rediculously easily. -Most people are sheeping of the reasons of one person. -They will if I go through both be silly mislynches.
Im going to focus on the first point mainly.
In this case the most coherently explained and analysed non-sheeping opinion is from Kavdragon. He took what he thought to be scum and organised and presented it. He honestly succeded in scaring the metaphorical crap out of me. I dont deal with pressure well and came up with a shoddy defense.
Therefore I after I basically had the majority of town gunning for me I panicked but Ive come to realize that theres no reason it should have happenes that fast. Sure JeeJee tryed to defend me but lets face the fact that it justs looks like a scumbuddy trying to save me. However if I were scum why put that risk to try to save me? Im have the most heat on me atm if it were me Would have kept my trap shut and bussed.
I then chose to throw another lynch candidate out there. I chose to do this to try to give another option to us but I did not explain that at all as you can clearly see.
So now I really have no idea what to do, I'm having a hard enough time articulating what im trying to say at the moment, as such if there is anything specific youd like addressed please ask. I have absolutely nothing to hide from town.
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On June 08 2011 18:12 dementrio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 17:04 unichan wrote: I'm a bit more reluctant to jump on the bandwagon this time - we all saw how the last pressure bandwagon turned out. That being said, OriginalName's defense isn't very strong. He has enough votes on him for pressure now, and they probably won't be taken off any time soon looking through his recent posts. He goes for Palmar, who isn't really on anybody's shit list - it looks like he's just going for a target for others to bandwagon. Like what happened with sinani, he's using the "weak" and "filler" post attack to try to get others to agree. However the argument isn't mounted as clearly as the one against sinani was, and clearly no one is buying it. Trying to mount another bandwagon is actually the only sensible ON could do as town. Looking at it from this perspective, he realizes he has nothing that clears him, so his best defense is trying to get somebody else lynched; He knows he's town and therefore any lynch helps town more than his lynch. However why Palmar? Why not youngmiini? ON says he's been suspicious of YM for a while, he's been a vocal supporter of the argument against him and more importantly there are already other people that seem ready to support this vote. In fact I think youngmiini would make the most sense even if ON was scum. The Palmar vote makes me think one of two things: either originalname has given up and is not trying, or he is scum along with youngmiini.
Because I STILL dont have a remotely solid reading on YM. I picked someone who I had a much more solid read on.
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On June 09 2011 07:34 Palmar wrote: oh, and I still think ON is scum, I just think he's getting bussed.
wrong format btw:
##Unvote OriginalName ##Vote youngminii
... how does that REMOTELY make sense.
If I was getting bussed chances are nothing would have been said and I would not have even remotely tried. I would have died and given NO INFORMATION. The number rule of scum play IS TO NOT GIVE INFORMATION. Seriously dude stop tunneling me.
I'm willing however to move over to Unichan however in this case its mostly just to save my own hide.
##Unvote Palmer [b]##Vote Unichan[b]
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@OriginalName: What I want to hear you defend yourself against is your pre-lynch behavior. I agree with most of your points about the bandwagon, but I want to hear you explain why you voted Sinani when you clearly didn't think he was a good lynch.
I voted Sinani because I felt that he was the best lynch under the circumstances BUT was still a very very weak lynch. I didnt feel that anyone could be successfully pushed at that point in the day so I went along with it. In the long run though it was just poor play.
also EBWOP
##Vote Unichan
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On June 09 2011 07:43 Palmar wrote: it's cool bro, I'm voting youngminii.
Why don't you too?
If my vote ends up being the decider I will switch to YM however I doubt many others will vote to lynch him at this point in time.
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Just going to compare wagons fast.
OriginalName(5) - Townie Varpulis youngminii Kavdragon stefftastiq dementrio Palmar prplhz
sinani206(7) prplhz Palmar Mataza stefftastiq unichan Varpulis OriginalName Kavdragon
look at all the common names, I'd start lynching from them tomorrow since im 99% sure scum isnt going to budge off my lynch.
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derp didnt delete names from my copy paste scratch off palmer and kav
OriginalName(5) - Townie Varpulis
stefftastiq
prplhz
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The lonely spirit gazed at what used to be his home. He floated by each remaining villager, in no order or method he merely sighed deeply as he left their mortal dwellings. He had nowhere and nothing. Returning to where he was prior he closed his eyes.
Only a rustle of wind was noticed by the others
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On June 11 2011 12:22 Varpulis wrote: activity, where art thou? the dead speak with mourning, for the living still are silent. Speak, and put our souls to rest.
Join me brother, for beyond the grave, all are pure. In our pureness we wait, for our folly was truly great.
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