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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:56 amazingxkcd wrote: It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it It is posts like this (especially for your first post) that we are trying to avoid. All you did in this post was state the premise of the game, and make a likely incorrect assumption that there are mafia among the "main talkers" this early in the game. Very very scummy post. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On June 06 2011 01:27 DeMorcerf wrote:I do not understand what you mean by this, sorry. Can you clarify whether "insane" is a good thing or a bad thing in this context; and what does "tunnel the roster" mean? Insane as in crazy. Not good at all. Tunneling is when you pick one player and call him/her scum for the entire game. Kurumi has taken it to an entirely new level. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On June 06 2011 03:21 Alderan wrote: It is posts like this (especially for your first post) that we are trying to avoid. All you did in this post was state the premise of the game, and make a likely incorrect assumption that there are mafia among the "main talkers" this early in the game. Very very scummy post. interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On June 06 2011 03:29 Jackal58 wrote: Insane as in crazy. Not good at all. Tunneling is when you pick one player and call him/her scum for the entire game. Kurumi has taken it to an entirely new level. Sorry but Palmar and RedFF are better at tunneling everyone than me >:C | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
my thoughts so far: - jesus christ, 7 pages of nothing - freeloader asked an innocuous question that was stupid but not scummy IMO in fact he made it quite clear the reasons he was asking: On June 05 2011 12:44 freeloader625 wrote: Omg I'm so excited for this. I read all the rules twice and just want to ask to anyone willing to answer (before the game starts) since these were not answered in the thread rules: 1) Since PMs are not allowed, how would mafia communicate with each other? 2) Once someone dies whether it be by votes or mafia hit, will their roles be revealed? and then everyone ignored the fact that he asked another innocuous question too. clinging to false evidence ITT? - unfortunately it looks like a slip so i can see him getting lynched today - if he flips town, we'll need to re-evaluate the people who pushed for his lynch - dude who keeps posting haikus, please stop, that's thread derailment and very scummy. i can't even read your posts. i do not think there are any posting restrictions so only post what you HAVE to - that being said, i'm going to vote for you because i don't want to jump on the freeloader bandwagon (nor do i want to try and counterbandwagon onto aprudds for calling him out) - voting in this thread is not scummy, whoever said that. voting in this thread helps us keep track of bandwagons and reasoning behind votes. please vote in this thread when you vote in the voting thread. - there are too many posts in this thread. you probably don't have anything to say at this point. don't post for posting's sake. when you do post, please make long, well-thought-out posts. short posts derail the thread. i think one of the pages had like 10 one-line posts and that's not acceptable. it allows mafia to "blend in" with the town by posting similarly. - posts that have words but don't say anything are scummy - kurumi is naturally an annoying, accusatory spammer, don't read into it too much  (also no offense to kurumi)- from what i've seen of his play in other games, jackal is a strong player. don't let his abrasive personality cloud your mind from his usually very-informative, rational posts. at the same time, please use your own judgment when reading his posts and decide for yourself if you come to the same conclusions. if he is mafia he will use his "upstandingness" to sheep us around. ##vote: iGrok | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 06 2011 03:38 amazingxkcd wrote: interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other. You didn't 'simply make an observation'. You stated that something was 'quite clear' when in fact it is not. It hasnt even been 24 hours since the game started, so we have no idea if someone else will come in and start to post alot, or whether the people who have posted a lot before will continue to post alot. In fact, the only way you could know this would be if you were mafia and knew that several of the mafia members had posted already. Also your second sentence was really weak. You basically said that the only question is to figure out who is mafia. Yeah, we know. Got any ideas? | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 06 2011 02:41 Kairo wrote: I am reading the thread, and thinking about what everybody writes- Plenty of time still to vote. I am not posting, but definitely not afk/inactive. I will post when I have anything worthwile to write, since I do not want to clog up the thread with useless spam. I was under the impression that one of the surefire ways for town to lose is when too many people posts too many "empty" posts, since it makes the information flow almost impossible to handle and analyze. This if ofc very benefical to the mafia, so I would strongly suggest that everybody are careful with "empty" posting. Everybody should feel encouraged to contribute, but make sure you are contributing. Look at the posts of somebody that you feel is suspicious. Figure out what makes you suspect him. Then post about it in a logical and rational manner. Make as many posts like that as you want  . | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 06 2011 01:17 TheAwesomeAll wrote: Vain you make me look silly in your summary, but its great otherwise. I quickly made a list of inactive people, you can ignore the numbers. + Show Spoiler + 1. Munk-E 2. blackone amazingxkcd 5. cherubael 6. teamsolid 8. Alderan 10. Drazerk has voted but not posted 12. Aril 14. TheKK 15. TranceStorm 16. heist 17. Sprungjeezy 18. monsterDrakar 21. supersoft 23. Xedat 24. grush57 25. Date_Reaper 26. CjrNinja 29. DeMorcerf 31. Kurumi 33. Clicker 34. Kairo 36. gtrsrs 38. tdAdonis 40. GGQ Why did you make this list? What do you think about the people on the list, and what should we do about them? | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 06 2011 01:30 monsterDrakar wrote: I will quickly make a list of people who annoy me with their first post. + Show Spoiler + TheAwesomeAll You got my vote. You earned it. More explanation, please. Why does this annoy you? Why do you feel justified voting for people who annoy you rather than people that you suspect are mafia? | ||
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Lafali
United States110 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:16 Kurumi wrote: Yeah,two SHORT posts about his SC2 mafia experience,fishy as heck."I hopped on voting bandwagon" What? Only Scum bandwagons. "I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches" WHAT THE FUCK? No,we can't afford mislynch for the sake of mislynching. Someone gives red vibes? WE LYNCH HIM. Someone made dumb question once,while Scummy Rats like You run around and we should lynch him? I will drop Treadmill for now,because You're infinitely more scummy than him. I'm new to mafia forum games like this and mostly used to smaller and faster-paced ones where taking a risk on a mislynch is pretty common as long as the game is not mislynch-lose. The subsequent posts from treadmill seemed fishy and people started to vote for him and at that point he was the only one looking suspicious to me. However, after reading more into the thread it seemed like a bad idea to vote so early, and it would be better to wait for any tells, and then on day two, cop reports. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 06 2011 00:07 Kurumi wrote: My dumbness meter went over 9000. Before saying "HURR DURR YOU DID NOTHING" read my posts. I brought evidence why I think they're scum. No more posts like this, please. We need a positive environment. Ask jackal or coagulation for tips if you want some ^_^ | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On June 06 2011 04:02 Lafali wrote: I'm new to mafia forum games like this and mostly used to smaller and faster-paced ones where taking a risk on a mislynch is pretty common as long as the game is not mislynch-lose. The subsequent posts from treadmill seemed fishy and people started to vote for him and at that point he was the only one looking suspicious to me. However, after reading more into the thread it seemed like a bad idea to vote so early, and it would be better to wait for any tells, and then on day two, cop reports. Treadmill is suspicious to You? You both are doing the same thing. Also thanks for excuse,I enjoy eating them. Because they're yummy. Why would DT report on Day 2? It is an easy target for Mafia,even when med protected they can just stack on him. Why are You spreading bad ideas? | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 06 2011 00:01 Vain wrote: Hi all. I just read trough all of the post and i must say there has been alot of accusations already. especially with Kurumi barging in and calling almost everyone that has posted a noobtown or a rat. I made a list of what happened the past time so i may as well post it. It may not be complete in the sence of what everyone has said but i think it helps tracing who accused who + Show Spoiler + freeloader625 asked a question about mafia and said he was new aprudds says scum slip(accuses freeloader) Jimbooo Does not want to make hasty conclusions treadmill agrees with aprudds(accuses freeloader) cherubael is a bit indifferent at first but then also accuses freeloader 35spike1 joins the bandwagon without much explenation gtrsrs posts he will be back tomorrow Aril defends freeloader625 Lafali also hops the wagon cherubael accuses aril DeMorcerf accuses freeloader too heist not suspicous of people defending freeloader omgCRAZY: Appruds quick to acccuse freeloader. Cherubael and jimboo thorw out votes Aril: We should not gang up on people omgCRAZY states he's new to the game iGrok defends freeloader. Says voting early suspicious. suggest checking freeloader monsterDrakar doesnt support Appruds accusation TheKK defends freeloader625.states it was a legimate question TheAwesomeAll also defends freeloader625. TheAwesomeAll sees the other 2 post freeloader did make Sprungjeezy also suspects freeloader Kurumi thinks freeloader is town kurumi votes treadmill kurumi accuses lafali 2 times Igrok tries to temper kurumi just as Sprungjeezy rookie44 makes a post with some questions Benjef votes without posting Pyo posts the first analysis Benjef explains why he voted Pyo says he's a noob Ok, Now Kurumi. Bandwagoning is not seen as a mafia only trait. Town joins bandwagons just as easily. For now Freeloader625 would still be my main target. It would give us at this moment the most information about who will be scum and who not. If he would be town it gives us the info that the people who were defending him are likely town. Why would they defend him if they are mafia? Furthermore it would lay suspicion on the people who accused him in the first place. The chance that they are mafia in that case would be alot bigger. If he turns out scum we can pat ourselfs on the back and continue the game with somewhat of a lead. As a last thing to point out. If you are town don't be afraid to post a good analysis that is pointing out weak scum play. It will maybe get you killed but in the end it will help you win. And we all play to win rigt Bolded part is very misguided play. Lynching for information, especially on day 1, is very weak. Taking into account the context, lynching freeloader for information is even weaker. The chance that he's mafia is very low, and if he flips green we have no usable information. The underlined question is very very easy to answer. Mafia always defend townies that they think will get mislynched. Why wouldnt they? It gives them free town cred. All we would get by lynching freeloader for information is a likely dead green and a pile of WIFOM. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 06 2011 04:02 Lafali wrote: I'm new to mafia forum games like this and mostly used to smaller and faster-paced ones where taking a risk on a mislynch is pretty common as long as the game is not mislynch-lose. The subsequent posts from treadmill seemed fishy and people started to vote for him and at that point he was the only one looking suspicious to me. However, after reading more into the thread it seemed like a bad idea to vote so early, and it would be better to wait for any tells, and then on day two, cop reports. Sounds like you play EpicMafia? It's good that you got some basic ideas from there, but forum mafia with 40 players isn't very similar to EM. Don't expect cop reports. Play as if there's no power roles; towns win forum mafia by having strong townie play, rarely by getting lucky with power roles. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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aprudds
Canada144 Posts
On June 06 2011 04:12 grush57 wrote: Im not inactive, I just dont feel like anybody can accuse this early. But you also voted just now. Your contradicting yourself. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On June 06 2011 03:38 amazingxkcd wrote: interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other. Pretty defensive considering all I said was that those are posts we are trying to avoid in exchange for more constructive ones. The post was scummy, but that doesn't mean you are scum. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On June 06 2011 04:12 grush57 wrote: Im not inactive, I just dont feel like anybody can accuse this early. But why did you vote for someone already? You provide no evidence, no stance, and your first post is stating something that can be interpreted as quite misleading. | ||
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