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I'm always a bit lost day 1, bum.
About the Zodiac lists: At this point they just seem to be lists of strong vets, and I don't know you guys well enough to make an informed list. BC has looked pro-town, as have you. Not really sure who else. Sandroba, maybe. he's proven to be a good player, and his posts have been mostly good, barring the claiming plan.
I'd like to know why specifically kita is voting for me. Is it because of my bad posting? I'll try to work on that. Specifically, I'm going to be quiet, because I'm not really sure what to do.
what does NoC stand for?
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On May 31 2011 08:07 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote: I'd like to know why specifically kita is voting for me. Is it because of my bad posting? I'll try to work on that. Specifically, I'm going to be quiet, because I'm not really sure what to do. So you're going to alter your thread presence the moment you become under scrutiny? I'm assuming that I'm being voted for because my actions are scummy, or at the least not pro-town. When I have a better idea of what's going on, and something to contribute, I'll speak up. I realize that spamming the thread with hollow statements of the obvious is not helpful, so I'm not going to do that. Is there a problem?
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On May 31 2011 08:12 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote: I'm always a bit lost day 1, bum.
About the Zodiac lists: At this point they just seem to be lists of strong vets, and I don't know you guys well enough to make an informed list. BC has looked pro-town, as have you. Not really sure who else. Sandroba, maybe. he's proven to be a good player, and his posts have been mostly good, barring the claiming plan.
I'd like to know why specifically kita is voting for me. Is it because of my bad posting? I'll try to work on that. Specifically, I'm going to be quiet, because I'm not really sure what to do.
what does NoC stand for? You're getting accused of fluffy posting. Defend your ideas mostly or accept your fate! I'm not saying you are making bad posts, I'm seeing them as intentionally inflated to make it look like your saying something. Kita didn't explain his vote which he should. If someone votes for you without putting reasons, ignore them. Alright, let me summarize what I've been saying: - Don't start shooting early. I don't want townies to die needlessly because the vigi or vigi type role doesn't like them. Wait for evidence. Simple enough
- I support LAL. I think that unless you've got a damn good reason to make something up, don't. If somebody claims without a good reason, we check him, and lynch/vigi him if he's lying. I really don't see a problem with this. There will obviously be exceptions, but I think LAL is a good guideline.
- I like the Zodiac lists, but am not qualified to make them/comment on them because i'm not familiar with most of the players
- Bum and BC have been pro town, because of their efforts to add order and keep the town on track. Following that logic, I'd add sandroba and now kita to the list. Kita has experience and is attempting to keep the thread clean. Sandroba has shown strong play in the games I've played with him.
The rest of my posts are either about a bad plan that I've abandoned or Amber.
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On May 31 2011 08:23 Palmar wrote:+ Show Spoiler [post] +Woah, that bro sure got some explainin' to do. Ya feel me? He's playing like a bitch, and not a man. Let's keep it real VarpuliS, look at these posts from early SNMMI + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2011 05:19 Varpulis wrote: Alright, just got back! Read through the thread, and from what I can gather, everybody either wants to
a) Lynch an inactive player because he might be lurking scum/ because he won't be helpful later on.
b) Wait to see how things play out.
I think we should pressure lurkers, but put the votes towards suspicious characters once we get the lurkers talking. + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2011 06:27 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 23:19 sandroba wrote: That makes no kind of sense whatsoever. How is me saying losing townies is a bad thing makes me scum? I'm obviously town. The idea of lynching inactives is really just to make sure everyone post enough so we can get a read on them. Also attacking the one doing analisys on you is not good town play. That's called OMGUS from what I've read. If you really are town then you should either defend yourself or make a case of someone you think is scum (a decent one, not the nonsencical one you've posted) so you can actually help town. I also have no connection with forumite and I fail to see how you could possibly have drawn this conclusion. And to say it doesn't matter if he posted that before or after he got PM'ed is just LOL. You are looking more and more like scum to me. This is a scummy post. He gets defensive and says two scummy lines, which I bolded. Not sure if it's just defensive posting because Zorkmid called him scum or an actual scumtell, but it's suspicious. I highly doubt that Forumite is scum though, so I might just be overanalysing. Zorkmid's schtick about Forumite being scummy because he' busy over the weekend is bullshit though. Gotta take a note, these are first two posts from that game, this aint the VarpuliS we're seein' here today, hell naw, this bro got something fishy goin' on. He even does an analysis on a mafia, day 1, not afraid of nothin', that bro. I liked that man, he didn't take no shit from anyone + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote:...And as promised, here is my analysis of Shcoleosis' posts. First post is a response to Eternalmisfit's suggestion to pressure lurkers Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:17 Shcoleosis wrote:On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote: Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all. Yeah, that seem logical. We don't want to kill innocent townies, though...It's the mafia we want gone! I highly doubt any mafia would be lurking or inactive when they have chances to kill. But who am I to say...I'm still learning :/ This bolded line is not scummy, it's just stupid. Mafia doesn't kill by talking, they kill by pm'ing GMarshal at night. Mafia needs to avoid drawing attention to itself to prevent themselves from getting lynched. This post in general is pretty worthless, ending with a line that is... strange. This is the first scumtell I can see. She basically says "don't listen to me, i'm new." Townies need to talk and be listened to, not ignored because this is their first game. Only mafia and blues benefit from being ignored, so unless he roleclaims, lets assume scum. Second post comes a little bit later. the post reads: Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote: I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky. This is a post which blends in. It says practically nothing, but appears to be a contribution. Blending in is not something a townie needs to do. +1 scum level. Finally, we've got lucky number 3: Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 13:01 Shcoleosis wrote:On April 15 2011 12:40 Zorkmid wrote:On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote: I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky. Why are you trying to protect inactives? Either they're not helping to scumhunt, or they are mafia. Let's hang em all ! Not trying to protect the inactive. I guess I just didn't really understand your logic well. But, hey, if it takes lynching the inactive to get rid of the scum, LET'S DO THIS! Lol Here, Shcoleosis basically says: "you seem to disagree with me... fine, you're right!" Agreeing with everybody else is something that two kinds of players do: - unhelpful townies -because they're just being sheep - mafia -because they're trying to blend in I don't want either in my town come lategame. Based off of this analysis, I'd like to start putting some pressure on Shcoleosis. Until a better target surfaces or she comes up with some good posts later on, I'll put my vote on her. ## Vote Shcoleosis But now, compare it to the worthlessness that is VarpuliS this game: On May 31 2011 05:23 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:22 chaos13 wrote:On May 31 2011 05:15 Mataza wrote: Wait, how does Traitor even fit my initial description.
Town hates traitors and I can´t imagine people getting traitor being unsatisfied, no? It is the exact opposite! Mole? I'm guessing something to do with either an alignment switch or an alternative win condition. On May 31 2011 05:35 Varpulis wrote: I think that we should claim not who we designed the role for, but what purpose the role has. This doesn't put the person with the role in any danger, and gives us a rough idea of what we have to work with. It could be as simple as
[ ] KP [ ] Information [ ] survivability (extra lives) [ ] unlisted
check all that apply.
That's vague enough that nobody should be able to tell that they got the role that you're pointing out, but specific enough to be useful. I for one would like to know how many roles with DTesque powers there are.
thoughts? Silly idea from a silly man, we don't want to tell the mafia what kind of roles we designed, we don't need to give mafia info to work with man... On May 31 2011 05:43 Varpulis wrote: My plan could get fucked up bigtime by scum fake claiming, just like any other. I think that it's a better alternative to sandroba's plan, which I don't like.
Why don't we ditch them both? Neither is very good, I think. Later on, they could be more useful. Until crazy shit starts happening, i'm going to treat this like we're all vanilla, like Palmar suggested. Here he's just backing off cause y'know, this VarpuliS aint got no balls, now he just afraid like a little bitch. Then he goes on and tries to communicate with the dog for a while, that's just silly derailing, I ain't buying that shit. And then man, the worst of all... On May 31 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote: I'm always a bit lost day 1, bum.
About the Zodiac lists: At this point they just seem to be lists of strong vets, and I don't know you guys well enough to make an informed list. BC has looked pro-town, as have you. Not really sure who else. Sandroba, maybe. he's proven to be a good player, and his posts have been mostly good, barring the claiming plan.
I'd like to know why specifically kita is voting for me. Is it because of my bad posting? I'll try to work on that. Specifically, I'm going to be quiet, because I'm not really sure what to do.
what does NoC stand for? A goddamn excuse? A real man, a man that aint got nothin' to hide just sticks to his guns and grabs his balls of steel and says, yo, look, I'm smarter than you bro, so just shut up. No, this bro aint no baller, this bro is a damn scum. Different circumstances, man! a nine man game where the scum slips easily, there are no experienced players, and the only thing to talk about is whether or not we should policy lynch lurkers is way different from a 30 man game where everybody's got a batshit insane role and are discussing roleclaims and zodiac lists (which I had never heard of).
This is the most vet-filled and spammy game I've played in so far. With all the talk about amber and zodiac lists, I can't find any real scumtells yet. So yes, I'm being less assertive. Does that mean I'm scum? no.
oh, btw, loving the WifoM on whether I'm scum based on a joke in the beginning of the game. Coming back to bite me now, aint it?
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About GMarshal: he seems fairly pro-town. His posts are on topic, and anything but filled with fluff. He's been both active and helpful. On May 31 2011 07:20 GMarshal wrote: I agree with Palmar, we are done discussing roles. We have ten pages of stuff to work with at this point, so let me ask some questions.
Who does everyone think is most likely to be town. from their posts alone? Who hasn't posted yet who you would have expected to post? This post especially makes me think that he's town. It encourages discussion, posting opinions, and keeps us on-topic.
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On May 31 2011 09:06 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 08:56 bumatlarge wrote:On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote: This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward. Deflecting without giving an alternative. Check! Lol, ok, fair enough. I think we need to set up a system of balances in this game. The chances of the mafia being unlucky enough to have given each others roles is very slim. Therefore I propose this: If somebody claims in the thread, whoever gave that role needs to look at the claim carefully. If it lies or is an entirely different role, announce you gave that person the role in the thread. This way we can catch fakeclaims. However, this won't be very effective later in the game because the people who gave the roles will be dead, and the possibility of fakeclaiming will be much less likely. For example, I'm much more inclined to trust redff1's roleclaim if nobody claims today... since everybody will read it and the real person who gave Red's role will undoubtedly counterclaim. tldr; if your person claims a fake role in thread, say so. otherwise stfu and let them be. We're not allowed to claim what role we picked & who we picked it for until day 2, the host said. We can check RedFF's role easily though, by asking Amber. Unless they're both mafia, it'll be accurate.
Amber, is RedFF pming you?
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On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote: anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that!
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? Who is this Vamp person and why is everybody voting for him?
On-topic, I think that we should wait a day or two before lynching our communal pet. He most likely has a night ability, so we might as well keep him around. We shouldn't be discussing just me and tnkted. There are other players too!
Cthsazsa, what do you think of the current situation, apart from RedFF & amber?
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On May 31 2011 10:46 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:43 chaos13 wrote: tnkted, what reason do you have for your vote on Coagulation? Oh now your just pulling my leg, are you actually chaoser? Are people secretly smurfing or something? tnkted, one thing I've learned, people who call me town do not usually have a good track record of being town. He's not chaoser. He played in XXXIX with chaoser.
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I'd add Chaos13 instead of sandroba.
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I'm going to sleep soon, but before then, a handy list of players who aren't contributing, for later reference.
- kurumi
- kenpachi
- Tackster
- Sinani206
- Torte De Lini
- Barundar
- stefftastiq
There are a bunch of people who haven't contributed much, but these guys haven't contributed at all, really. All of them need to tell us what they're thinking and why. Posting once in a while saying "i'm here" doesn't make you any more helpful.
Any additions/changes to the list? I probably missed something.
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Claims are bad. We already discussed this, didn't we? Both sandroba's idea and mine got shot down fast because claiming plans either benefit the mafia or are too easily manipulated.
I'm back, and feeling slightly more assertive. Nobody fistbump Palmar. We still have no clue what it does, and he seems to have plenty already. Will make an actually substantial post as soon as I'm fully caught up.
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Can we stop arguing about a useless plan that we're not going to go through with? You've made your point, stop spamming the thread.
I'm no longer paying attention to Kurumi. He's just spamming. I don't want to lynch him, because spamming is what Kurumi does no matter what his role is, it seems, but I'd like him to think before he posts, please.
On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 07:35 Mataza wrote: tl;du: Your plan prevents something from happening that won´t happen unless your plan was done already.
You say w/out your plan mafia can claim any role they want. But they can´t unless they somehow find out who created their roles. And right now your plan reveals exactly that. We are done discussing a plan that will not be put into place. Both sides have been pretty clearly laid out. Instead answer these questions. 1.) If you were a vigilante who would you shoot tonight 2.) if you were a kingmaker who would you make king tomorrow 3.) what is your favorite colour 4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest? 1.) I'm with sand here. Torte needs to start playing. 2.)BloodyC0bbler 3.)Blue... no wait, pi- Ahhhhh 4.)tnkted. More on him soon.
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On June 01 2011 08:07 Mataza wrote: Huh, what? I thought Amber could only bark and tailwag.
And then I question Viscera being on it. Maybe that is because I know him from last game. But he said at one point he is picking up no scumread and he is just waiting for something big happening.
I´m not aware of a reason he should be on the fabled zodiac list, let alone Sandroba which Amber voted for. On second thought, why the HELL is Sandroba on Ambers list?
I assume this to be a lie until Amber barks personally. ##vote redff wow. You do realize that it's not based off of who's got the most games, right? Amber might think that Viscera's a good player, and I know that sandroba has played very well in the past. He was one of the most pro-town players in XXXIX until the scum shot him to shut him up, and key to the mafia victory in Splinter Sleeper Cell Mafia.
Did you miss the post explaining how RedFF got the list? Amber can quote and bold stuff, just not write his own words.
I really don't like this vote because of the reasons you gave.
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scratch tnkted. Most of the "scumtells" i found were just him doing weird shit like telling people not to fistpound Palmar then doing it himself, or voting for Coag.
In my searches for scummy tnkted posts, however, I found somebody worth looking at.
Rean
I'm going to summarize what he's been doing in 4 words, for those of you who don't seem to like reading. blending in and lurking.
He's been making posts, sure, but has yet to make any contributions of note, or any effort to do so. His constructive, useful posts:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 05:33 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote: Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch. Oh yes, genius idea, let's tell mafia who they should shoot so they can get away with fake-claiming ANYTHING THEY CAN IMAGINE. shooting down a terrible plan, fine.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 06:57 Rean wrote: Sigh. This is silly. The dog appears to be some kind of guard dog, so i'm guessing he acts like a watcher/tracker or something like that. Useful later on, a waste of time for now.
As for the LAL plan: no. You lynch people when there is a good reason to do so, not simply because you lied. There could be many reasons that town would be lying, and blindly lynching them for it is not a good idea.
The list is unneccesary. People should be capable of deciding for themself who is worth protecting or inspecting, you don't need someone holding your hand telling you what to do.
Oh, and props for whoever thought up the dog role, that's just hilarious. This is less fine. Makes assumptions, and tells us that organization is bad. The only good part in this post is the LAL opinion.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 22:55 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 22:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 31 2011 22:39 Rean wrote: Voting Torte de Lini aswell. He's yet to contribute despite being asked to several times, let's put some more pressure on him. How about you start contributing as well instead of presurring someone on their first game. Lead by example I say! It's irrelevant how long they have been playing, they have to be contributing. I have been doing so this game, don't see him doing anything that's not "sup guys dont mind me im a newbie ^^". As for thoughts on other players: tnkted is indeed acting weird but it seems to be something with his role providing him protection from being lynched that triggers this behavior. Some others players (barundar/torte/kenpachi/others i cant remember atm) are lurking/being useless in general. Not good. This was his response to being called out for lurking. Claiming contributions, defending tnkted with assumptions, then listing other lurkers and saying that they're bad. Bad post, not helpful.
Based off of this alone, I'd be willing to start pressuring Rean, but there's more.
he decides to vote for Coag (who is not playing) because he thinks that tnkted has even more conjectured powers, and that it'd be interesting to see what happens.
On May 31 2011 22:48 Rean wrote: ...o_O Damn, that vote on coagulation is weird. My best guess is the vote on coagulation is just nonsense, and that his role lets him do that to hide his true vote. I'll try voting coag aswell to see what happens. Don't do this, please.
Oh yeah, and this most recent string of posts discussing Kurumi's posting style. + Show Spoiler +On June 01 2011 06:10 Rean wrote: Am I the only one that's being seriously disturbed by the fact that Kurumi is consistently typing You with a capital letter? On June 01 2011 06:13 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 06:10 Rean wrote: Am I the only one that's being seriously disturbed by the fact that Kurumi is consistently typing You with a capital letter? ebwop: i just checked the thread again, there's not a single you, your or you're that doesn't have the capital Y. That is VERY weird. I'd guess his role forces him to talk like that for some reason, but i'm not sure what that'd be :/ On June 01 2011 06:28 Rean wrote: Okay, looking back at XXXIX it seems like he just has a bad understanding of when to use capital letters. Weird, but not scummy. Let's dismiss it for now. Waste of our time and just spamming the thread. Don't do this either. I like how he checks through the thread to see Kurumi's posting style, not to find scum.
In conclusion: Rean needs to be more helpful and Pro-town. He has no excuse not to, unlike Torte(who also needs to step up his game). I'm sticking a vote on him until he does.
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jackal is right.
sandroba, let's pressure the lurkers, not lynch or vigi them. They'll either get modkilled or we'll have extra townies. It's too early to tell if a player is lurking mafia or inactive town. Instead of killing them off, we should use our role/alignment checking powers on them, because they're the only ones not giving us any clues.
Torte is just about our worst lynch today.
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EBWOP: I'll drop it for now, though, because I think I was misunderstanding the circumstances. I stand by what I said. Investigate, not kill.
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On June 01 2011 09:41 sandroba wrote: LOL I'm not getting lynched today unless town is stupid. I refuse to believe it. That's just wishful thinking by you. Stop arguing with jackal and start contributing, then. You've made your point. If you respond to every post of his you're just going to end up spamming the thread and seeming more scummy.
Posts like "lol town won't lynch me unless they're stupid" are not helpful.
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I agree that we should consolidate our votes onto a couple of targets. My vote on Rean isn't helping that, I realize.
As such, I'll join the lynch on Tackster. He's trying to blend in just like Rean, and has contributed even less. Rean still needs to contribute more, though. IGMEOY.
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For good measure...
Tackster
I don't like people who pretend to be helpful. Tackster is doing just that. He has 3 posts. In this situation, a post-by-post analysis should suffice.
Post 1:On May 31 2011 06:19 Tackster wrote:Hey guys I'm up to date!! This looks likes it's going to be so unpredictable it takes weeks to come crashing down Remember Insane 2? Think we can hit 50 pages by night 1? Anyway my 2 cents - i think revealing who we created roles for is useless. Mafia would know everyone that they created a role for and could share it in their quicktopics - we on the other hand would have no useful info to share in thread. And what's with all the Pound Fisting?? Am I the only one that finds that suspicious? Palmar wrote a command and 2 people replied - that has to be looked into... States the obvious and says what everybody else has been saying, and reminds us that he's playing.
On May 31 2011 06:27 Tackster wrote:Amber your role wouldnt happen to be scooby doo would it? Cos technically scooby could talk ...*great post* /sarcasm
On June 01 2011 06:24 Tackster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ok I need to address an accusation by Meapak and contribute more. Hello Guys!! I last posted before going to bed and 12 hours later I woke up to a pounding headache so I havent even tried checking the thread until now. After this post I will probably head back to bed as I must be coming down with something. Anyways I've been writing notes as I read so this may not all be linear but it should cover anything I found stange: The amber and redFF debate: I find it surprising that redFF would assume Amber could speak normally in PMs. The roles were decided pre alignment and I assume Amber cant PM normally nor speak to mafia in quicktopics normally if he is red. (This is an ASSUMPTION!) As this provides us with no leads and knowing roles does not hint at alignment I suggest it becomes redFFs mission to decipher Ambers talk in PMs without clogging up the thread. This way we can open an avenue of conversation with the dog that is clear and not waste peoples time with it in thread. If either is lying the other can out them, if both are lying we'll find out soon enough. Make sense? Next I had a horrid thought - what if Palmar had the role to fist pound everyone in game to win? SCARY!!! I'm annoyed many haven't voted in thread. I hope this picks up as I hate having to check the voting thread and I assume anyone not double voting (as suggested in the OP) is being sneaky! Voting in thread means being explicit too - not just saying 'i think *** may be mafia' and going off to vote. Next i came across tnkted coagulation vote. I can see how if he had to pick a random name tnkted would pick Coag but I dont think there's enough info here for strong guesses (not that it ever stops me ) I thought that maybe tomorrow we should out any roles we feel would be too strong if Mafia had them OR out any people we created a mafia sided role for without outing the role. This is just an idea and does not reflect on the role created. However townies would be interested in outing strong mafia-usable roles so i thought this may be a good plan. DISCUSS! Next: What is Amber is the mole? I remember when I red about the mole/s I thought to myself that it would be best if mafia tried to contact me ASAP so I can setup some grounds for the switch (eg. not outing my role or outing pro-town info). If Amber is the mole mafia may have told redFF to contact amber to let him know and redFF felt he had to out.. Food for thought! Then I read Zeapaks post - I hope this post if full of enough information for you. I honestly noted everything I thought relevant and through a strong migraine as well Viscera Eyes you pounded waaaaaay to early.. I really DONT like this whole Palmar thing. IF Palmar is pro town why would he out that he has a role that scales with pounds? That sounds like someone mafia would kill just in case. If he is Mafia though he has a good reason to reveal - to get pounds from town as well as maf (otherwise mafia is self revealed as all the pounders). Also I'm thinking if Palmar says 4 is the critical point but more are better I ASSUME that theres a mathematical rule to his ability. EG. He gets to use it #pounds/2 -> so 4 pounds = 2 uses which is more realistic than 6 for 3 and more useful than 3 for 1. Just a thought. I feel Kita is under too much pressure and being BWed on d1. We dont have any real info yet only conjecture. How can Kita be under that much discussion when there's more people to check? Finally the conversation has changed to sanroba but only recently! Mataza I'm finding your comments and play style very weird. Especially: Mataza Germany. May 31 2011 20:51. Posts 406 Palmar, bro, you said you need at least 4 fistpounds to get working. So cut the small talk, tell ya bros what number of fistpounds are critical, will ya?
Ya know, the last thing I wanna risk is having a bro´s ego inflated by fistpounds, making him explode or something.
No really, if ya share love ya gotta also share knowledge. Not only had Palmar already explained that more were better but mataza chooses this point to complain. Sounds like a possible mafia who doesnt want to pound. Even though he sounds friendly with Palmar. Next post is cryptic cos I don't know the meta: Mataza Germany. May 31 2011 21:21. Posts 406 Dude, you are behaving a lot like last game. First of all, there is not much of kitatrain right now. Secondly, the "I won´t change unless you bring a solid defense" is what you did as mafia, too. Problem is, you CANNOT have a solid defense in a mafia game. Doubt is the normal state towards everyone. You might as well ask for the holy grail before the crusade even begun.
And I don´t exactly buy that more fistpounds are beneficial without any strict numbers behind it. Carrying over to the next day I could understand. Increments tied to certain numbers I could understand. But every single fistpound being beneficial is just weird. It has to be either percentual increments or full numbers of people then. And full numbers of people is what I greatly fear.
Last game, you broke this bros heart. This time it ain´t gonna be fixed with a fistpound and smile. Imma never trust you again. First of all I think there is a Kita Train. Secondly I think this sounds very much like a mafia justifying not pounding. Now I myself justified not pounding but only in a general 'we dont know what it does sense'. Mataza seems to trust the mechanic but not the use of it (Why more pounds? Use less for a Benefit...) Having said that this is just something I found strange NOT an all out FOS Also on the iPhone Fist Pound keeps getting corrected to Fish Pond - LOL Next Chaos13 said Im reluctant to contribute - In fact I am in a different time zone, i sleep ALOT and I am slow at reading mafia threads!! Bum pressuring a role claim on tnkted - now that I didnt like. I dont like BWs d1 and I know bum has been mentioned before but he is definitely on my 'tricksy' list. I don't see how a roleclaim d1 on someone you have no info on is beneficial to town... Lastly Kurumi posted this strange riddle job. I have to say it's been really tough to break into but I suggest someone analyze his capitalisation - it sure is strange. Ok i'm off again - chat you guys tomorrow. KISSES xx Monster post of him rambling on about theories and vague possibilities. This really says nothing at all, and just seems to be a big post for the sake of being a big post.
Tackster is capable of being very active and helpful, and his lack of contributions makes me suspicious. Hence, a vote!
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@chaos does saying "i'm voting for xxx" count, or are you asking for ##vote xxx?
@kita I agree that Rean needs to explain his posting, but a vote on him didn't seem to be doing much. Did you see my analysis? It said pretty much exactly what you just did.
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