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On May 30 2011 04:36 redFF wrote: ok guys, remember, try and assign roles that will help a townie and not be that useful for a scum e.g alignment cop. But if you turn out to be mafia with that person you just damaged your chances of winning quite badly. | ||
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On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote: Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch. Oh yes, genius idea, let's tell mafia who they should shoot so they can get away with fake-claiming ANYTHING THEY CAN IMAGINE. | ||
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As for the LAL plan: no. You lynch people when there is a good reason to do so, not simply because you lied. There could be many reasons that town would be lying, and blindly lynching them for it is not a good idea. The list is unneccesary. People should be capable of deciding for themself who is worth protecting or inspecting, you don't need someone holding your hand telling you what to do. Oh, and props for whoever thought up the dog role, that's just hilarious. | ||
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On May 31 2011 22:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote: How about you start contributing as well instead of presurring someone on their first game. Lead by example I say! It's irrelevant how long they have been playing, they have to be contributing. I have been doing so this game, don't see him doing anything that's not "sup guys dont mind me im a newbie ^^". As for thoughts on other players: tnkted is indeed acting weird but it seems to be something with his role providing him protection from being lynched that triggers this behavior. Some others players (barundar/torte/kenpachi/others i cant remember atm) are lurking/being useless in general. Not good. | ||
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On June 01 2011 06:10 Rean wrote: Am I the only one that's being seriously disturbed by the fact that Kurumi is consistently typing You with a capital letter? ebwop: i just checked the thread again, there's not a single you, your or you're that doesn't have the capital Y. That is VERY weird. I'd guess his role forces him to talk like that for some reason, but i'm not sure what that'd be :/ | ||
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That as a first. Bum should be killed by someone, he's practically confirmed scum at this point. Wiggles should still be lynched though, no telling what role he may have and letting him live for the night could be really bad. | ||
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On June 03 2011 07:08 tnkted wrote: Oh and don't forget: bum claimed bulletproof I believe. he claimed sk, which by default can take 2 hits | ||
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On June 03 2011 07:10 Kurumi wrote: No,he claimed he miracously evades hits.. Speaking of miracles it sounds like Wiggles' role. I'm pretty sure that the Joker would have lost his role if the Batman died, just as Batman loses his role when the Joker dies. It doesn't make sense for it not to. Either way, Bum cannot be shot, he has to be lynched to die. | ||
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On June 03 2011 09:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I want town to leave me alive, if only so I can shoot this Joker tonight. Right, because we're going to give you a chance to shoot someone that's claimed bulletproof in two different ways. MIG, we need the full role description you gave sinani please. | ||
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On June 05 2011 02:49 Rean wrote: For who gave Node the ability to write his last will: if you can do that again, please use it on me. There is some important information about the role I gave out and I can't risk dying without telling town. Bolding this because it's seriously important. What are the deadlines for sending in actions & at what time does the night post get posted? | ||
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On June 05 2011 02:49 Rean wrote: For who gave Node the ability to write his last will: if you can do that again, please use it on me. There is some important information about the role I gave out and I can't risk dying without telling town. Bolding this because it's seriously important. What are the deadlines for sending in actions & at what time does the night post get posted? fixed it, whoops | ||
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On June 06 2011 06:05 deconduo wrote: Missing a load of night actions. What are people doing. You said BrownBear would take over or something, a lot of people probably messaged him instead | ||
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On June 07 2011 17:52 Rean wrote: Don't be retarded. No-one is getting lynched on policy here, and no-one is getting lynched when we have a confirmed scum to lynch. Palmar can very well be scum, and if Torte de Lini survives the night he's almost certainly next. ebwop  | ||
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 : We lynch Bumatlarge. | ||
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Switching votes to Palmar upon hearing Decon's answer. | ||
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On June 08 2011 03:38 Rean wrote: Similarly, ignore Kurumi because he's scum aswell :D Switching votes to Palmar upon hearing Decon's answer. ebwop:  | ||
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SCUM LIST:
All these people should be shot, bombed, lynched, whatever have you because they're scum. | ||
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SCUM LIST:
All these people should be shot, bombed, lynched, whatever have you because they're scum. ebwop: | ||
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I'm the psychic. I can switch between alignment checks and votechecks. There's limitations to this to prevent it from being overpowered, but i'm not outing those. The important things are: - There was one mafia on the VisceraEyes lynch day1. - Torte de Lini is mafia. - There were 2 mafia on the Palmar lynch. - Last night, I was shot and saved. | ||
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On June 09 2011 16:30 Rean wrote: Amber[LighT], listen up. You're going to tell me who you targetted each night. Quote posts and growl at your night 1 target, wiggle your tail at the n2 target, bark loudly at the n3 target. Capiche? Good doggie. Amber[LighT], i'm still waiting for your answer. | ||
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Eternalmisfit deskscaress Barundar Palmar hiro protagonist Varpulis Kurumi (Or so he claims) Palmar lynch bumatlarge Eternalmisfit Kurumi Jackal58 Karshe GMarshal Amber[LighT] Cthsazsa Rean Yes, I inspected Jackal, I just said i'd inspect Amber to avoid possible framer shenanigans. He returned black on the inspect. Barundar is also the only one on the visceraeyes lynch left unaccounted for, making him mafia. ##Vote: Barundar | ||
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On June 11 2011 07:57 Karshe wrote: Oh, and in case anybody is wondering why I have a bomb on me... don't worry, it's not going to kill me. My role has a secondary ability that I would have felt bad for disappointing my role creator without trying once. | ||
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On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote: Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing. Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy. | ||
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So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect? Cool story, bro. | ||
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On June 11 2011 08:50 Jackal58 wrote: Chaos 13's role: You are the Whistleblower. Once per night, you can track a player by stalking them, recording their actions and taking note of their visitors. If you do not reveal any of this information openly, when you die all the information is leaked in the Night/Day post you were killed in. Your alignment shows up as Black regardless of what alignment you are. He was town. You'd have to ask the moron that wrote it. Mataza was town. His role was useless. I'm town. I get to talk to people that don't reply to my PMs and post fucking smileys. Amber gets to bark like a dog. How the hell would I know why somebody framed me. Maybe I quoted somebody. Or maybe I said the magic fucking word. Or maybe they didn't believe your WIFOM. Or maybe you are scum. That wasn't a framing role, it was part of his role meant to balance it out. If you had that, you'd know about it. | ||
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sorry, boldedit also ##Vote: Jackal58 | ||
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On June 11 2011 22:59 Jackal58 wrote: Lynch Barundar. 3 black alignments will leave the game tonight. Me and GMarshall will be dead and the 3rd will leave as a victor. Plus you lynch a red. Win win win for town. Why do you think GMarshall and I jumped on Palmar so quick when he claimed he was an assassin? Wasn't because we though he was scum. I might not be town and I can't possibly win my condition now since you checked me but I would love to deny GMarshall his wincon too. Plus as a disinterested 3rd party I honestly want town to win. Fuck scum.And none of us could take a chance on shooting while Kurumi was still alive. We would have been outed immediately. So town - Lynch Barundar. He's scum. I have no interest in shooting townies or scum. Just assassins. Why should I believe you're an assassin? | ||
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Since I have to votecheck tonight, we're gonna do this nice and organized. People that will be voting for Barundar: Redff Rean Gmarshal Amber[LighT] stefftastiq DropBear Palmar People that will be voting for Jackal58: Karshe Cthsazsa Yes, I purposely left out Barundar and Jackal since they're not going to listen anyway (and we already know their alignments regardless). | ||
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On June 12 2011 06:59 Cthsazsa wrote: I love that Idea Rean, but you're most likely not going to survive the night and tell us the results. That's not an argument for not doing it you scumbag. | ||
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On June 12 2011 07:01 Cthsazsa wrote: Also, you left out the dog. I don't know how the hell you people are convinced he isn't scum, yet you guys are suspicious of me. Where did I leave out the dog? He's quite clearly on the list to vote for Barundar oh btw, just noticed my list has one error: redff can't vote along. but that's fine. | ||
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On June 12 2011 07:02 Cthsazsa wrote: Rean wtf? You said so yourself I'm most likely pro town, why the hell did you change your opinion so fast? Where did I ever say that? | ||
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1. Yes, I do think Karshe's town. I created his role and his use of it has seemed pro-town so far. His third bomb is slightly wasted as he could have used it better but i'll forgive him since he's just a newbie. 2. Do YOU not read what I write? I've never said you're pro-town, yet you claim I did. | ||
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On June 12 2011 07:09 Cthsazsa wrote: woops, that was your name in green. Not mine. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186¤tpage=148#2951 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Rm5Ou.jpg) | ||
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On June 12 2011 07:14 Cthsazsa wrote: Tell me why I am a scumbag, plz Gut tells me Amber/Gman/Karshe aren't, PoE leaves you | ||
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On June 12 2011 07:21 Cthsazsa wrote: If gut is all you rely on, we're going to lose this game. Why would I have let Wiggles kill Desk, if I was scum? O ya dont say it was for town cred. Damn....you've got a good point there >.> This is where things get tricky. For me, the next option would then be either GMarshal or Amber[LighT]. The thing here is: if Amber is scum, we'll know because Barundar will use his powers to make a deal with Jackal. GMarshal does give me a gut feeling he's town, but not by all that much. Either way, the votecheck should help us out here. GMarshal: I understand why you'd rather lynch Jackal, and your reasons for there not being a assassin are very valid. However, if you truly are town then you have to understand that lynching Jackal and shooting Barundar won't work. I can't explain to you why, you have to trust me on this. If Jackal is lying about being a assassin, we'll know. | ||
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On June 12 2011 07:29 Cthsazsa wrote: Rean if you think I'm scum try again. Calling people scum because you have a gut feeling is going to cost us the game. I also think you should go back and actually read my two posts about why Karshe is scum. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186¤tpage=149#2980 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186¤tpage=152#3031 Could you share your thoughts on Amber please? | ||
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Now you're here: please quote whoever you targetted last night and lie down please. | ||
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REVERSE THE VOTING LIST I MADE. EVERYONE NOT CTHSASZA OR KARSHE WILL BE VOTING JACKAL58. ##Vote: Jackal58 | ||
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On June 12 2011 09:31 Cthsazsa wrote: Town stop getting sheeped by GMarshal -___- he did the exact same thing in the Palmar lynch. Jackal admitted, he's done. There's no way he's going to win. He is offering us help to kill scum why the hell are you all turning it down?? Lynch Barundar today. Jackal kills Karshe. Palmar kills GMarshal. By tomorrow we'll have two scum and one 3rd party dead. If we can't find a better lynch, we can lynch Jackal tomorrow. Oh yes, let's ask kindly if Jackal would agree to shoot someone for us when he has no fucking reason to do so. And while we're at it, let's shoot someone that's very likely not mafia, and pray to whatever god there is that he is indeed a assassin and not a townie! | ||
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On June 12 2011 10:00 Cthsazsa wrote: He claims protecting Rean and for some reason everyone seems to believe that the Dog who hasn't contributed squat must be Town! What the hell is this shit? He asks you why you give him a free pass, and then you proceed to say you think he's scummy? Some major contradictions there. Not to mention that since you're so 100% sure Karshe is mafia you're also indirectly saying you think Amber is town. | ||
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On June 12 2011 18:04 Cthsazsa wrote: If need be, I will switch my vote to Jackal. Unless you still want to check me, of course. Oh yeah, if me and Karshe vote for the same person that won't answer anything because it will still show up as 1 scum voting for so-and-so. You keep your vote where it is. Amber and stefftastiq have to switch over. | ||
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On June 13 2011 00:22 redFF wrote: You guys are dumb and jackal is taking you for a ride. We lynch Barundar, THE CONFIRMED SCUM PLAYER. I'm leaning towards Cthasza scum too. Here is how we need the voting to go. Everyone vote Barundar except Palmar, Rean, Jackal and me, then we check the Barundar vote list tommorow and see how much scum is left? Palmar shoots cthasza, here's why: Cthasza scum-He's mafia and he dies, takes town with him but hes gotta die at some point. Cthasza town- He's town and he dies, I think he should take either Jackal or dropbear with him. This game is full of fuck and I have stuff to do, lynch the confirmed scum please ffs. Stop being retarded. Nobody's shooting cthasza. We're very low on players left if you haven't noticed and these 1 on 1 trades aren't going to work out. We have to lynch Jackal and shoot Barundar simply because we can't afford Jackal shooting another townie. Seeing how much scum is left is nice but it doesn't actually help us win. We're keeping the list the way I said before: Amber has to vote for Jackal58 and we're good. | ||
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We're not going to kill more then we need to. We can't afford to miss and have even more dead townies, we need every last one of them. Does anyone know stefftastiq's role? Palmar shoots Barundar. | ||
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On June 13 2011 06:43 Palmar wrote: All I know about stefftastiq's role is that he gets whispered a random night event. He has posted them all and they have helped, so I'm inclined to think he's green at the moment. The biggest suspects for me at the moment are Karshe (why didn't you just bomb joker after n1, instead of killing mataza and then bombing him) and DropBear And what are your thoughts on Amber? | ||
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Palmar Rean DropBear stefftastiq Amber[LighT] This is the last list of people that voted for the Jackal lynch. It has 2 mafia on it. For me, it's between DropBear/stefftastiq/Amber[LighT]. And with Amber also being on the previous list....he seems like a much better option to me. | ||
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amber, quote who you targetted and wiggle your tail please | ||
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On June 14 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: I'm betting that Rean was shot at because I don't think anyone else here has a veteran type role. If that's true, I'm wondering why they chose to shoot Rean. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's pretty damn obvious who has the medic-type role? As far as I am concerned I was not shot at. No messages telling me I was saved or anything. Maybe they tried taking down Palmar (lol)? | ||
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On June 14 2011 20:42 redFF wrote: Everyone agrees that Dropbear is the lych, no argument there, but then after that the only thing to do is shoot/lynch into that list. I love how your only way to try and stop this plan is saying there are millers and gfs. Sorry GM but you are going to have to die, because we have 2 scum out of a possible 4 and we need to keep killing that 4 until we find the 2 scum. Palmar shoot GM tonight, GM sacrifice Steff. Simple. Rean I suggest a check on Cthazsa, as the list with 2 scum will all be dead by tommorow. Stop being retarded. We're not going to shoot into a list of people just because I got the 2 mafia result, completely ignoring the chance of millers and godfathers. Secondly, use your brain and try to scumhunt instead of relying blindly on my DT checks. Cthazsa made deskscaress role, mafia killing him first night when they knew he would reveal their alignment would've been silly. GMarshal quoted Torte de Lini, which would also be silly to do as scum. Neither is very likely to be scum. I also like how you ignore Amber completely when he's more likely to be scum then anyone else by virtue of being on both lists. | ||
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On June 14 2011 21:30 redFF wrote: Rean ignoring your votechecks at this stage when we know you are a dt and your previous list has been correct would be retarded. We have to kill into that list. Amber/GM for other scum probably, but we can't kill them both in one night so tonight Palmar should shoot GM. Give an argument for why we should kill GMarshal over Amber. ALso, no, it wouldn't be retarded BECAUSE there might be a miller/godfather type role in play. You're blatantly ignoring that possibility in favor of just shooting your way through, which is a retarded philosophy to have. | ||
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On June 15 2011 02:00 Palmar wrote: I find that a great argument for amber being town Rean. What, the fact that he has half a braincell and quotes the most town person in here is a great argument for him being town? Let's not forget: mafia did not kill. I didn't get saved by any hits, so the question is: why did they not kill anyone? | ||
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On June 15 2011 02:52 redFF wrote: How do you know you weren't saved by any hits? Maybe you weren't protected by a typical medic? Disregarding that: do you really think GMarshal would quote TDL day 1, just to possibly gain a little town credit but lose his role?. | ||
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- Lynching Wiggles DOES NOT qualify as town points because it was pretty damn obvious. - Lynching Palmar DOES NOT qualify as scum points because Palmar derped and decided claiming assassin was a brilliant idea, effectively placing him along bum in the confirmed scum category. There, the logical thing to do was lynch Palmar because he would likely have more KP. - Any lynches after this barely qualify for town credit because they were all fairly straightforward. The only thing that deserves town points is GMarshal stopping town from fucking up and lynching Barundar (when lynching Jackal was clearly the better move). Ask yourself, why would a mafia GMarshal do that? - redff, you HAVE been outing DT's carelessly and needlessly. After I told you my results, you instantly went into the thread to say that Torte de Lini was 100% mafia. Anyone with half a braincell could've figured out what happened. You revealed my role when there was no reason to because Torte de Lini could have easily gotten lynched. Right now I agree with GMarshal on RedFF and DropBear. I don't see why everyone considers Amber so pro-town,but with him being hard to analyze I suppose they have a point. | ||
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On June 15 2011 19:28 Palmar wrote: Because Stefftastiq could make anything up for his whispers in the night. He revealed a whisper that basically confirmed that Rean was telling the truth about his votecheck. The only way I think stefftastiq is mafia is if Rean is one too. I just find that possibility less likely than you or GM being the scum. My role name was openly available in the thread, faking it wouldn't have been hard. Besides, who says steff can't be a scum medium? Linking his alignment to mine is just stupid. | ||
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On June 15 2011 21:24 redFF wrote: Does nobody find it weird how GM just expects everyone to believe we have millers in the game with absolutely no evidence. Palmar you know what to do lol. This is getting ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, it's not like people flipped miller before in this game or anything. Silly GMarshal. Oh wait. | ||
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With that said, we have 8 people alive right now. Right now, i'd say gun down Karshe. He seems the scummiest out of who's left. | ||
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##Fistpound: Palmar Oh, and I alignment checked Amber but as you might have guessed that didn't really lead anywhere. | ||
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I'm not going to pass on a plan that guarantees a town victory. I don't care what parts of your role may or may not exist. | ||
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More specifically, could serial killers shoot and use their role ability in the same night and could a lone mafia use the KP mafia has and use his ability in the same night? I'm talking active ability's here (like for example inspecting someone's alignment). | ||
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On June 19 2011 03:02 GMarshal wrote: Thanks for fucking over my wincondition after I made sure you had the game in the bag. Way to reward my analysis and activity. I *really* appreciate it. Don't bother apologizing, next time I'll leave you idiots to keep shooting into the town and killing each other. Oh, and for the record, I'm not only town, but I also know that theres a mafia and a serial killer left. I should thank Barundar for crumbing that, I wouldn't have realized in time. Now my trap is out the window. And after killing me, we lose for sure. Which is what you morons have earned. Right, and despite you knowing there is atleast a mafia and a serial killer left you don't say anything about it until you're almost dead. Try bullshitting harder please. | ||
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GMarshal, respect for not giving up and fighting it out till the end even with the odds heavily stacked against you. | ||
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On June 19 2011 07:45 Jackal58 wrote: And thanks again Decon and BB. This was by far the most fun I've ever had in a game. Kiss my ass Rean Payback for forcing me to post with smilies. | ||
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On June 22 2011 01:26 Amber[LighT] wrote: To be honest in most situations you shouldn't claim medic since you're going to get hit. You don't know if there is another medic in the game as well, so you're giving mafia a free kill. Luckily I was the other medic and I was still alive. I could have infinitely protected you if I chose to. Unfortunately I made a risky move and chose to protect Rean, the DT, over you. Had I saved you we could have continued this strategy for most of the game to increase towns chances of winning. I knew you were going to be a target and you kinda outted Rean in the process, who I felt would be more worthwhile to keep around. The townies who outted me should consider using more discrete forms of protection. After the night there were no odd kills you should have assumed I protected Rean and didn't need to ask. I wasn't going to respond but with the fickle voting patterns of the town I figured claiming my target would get me removed from peoples scum lists. Tip for Rean: After I protected and claimed that I targeted you, it should have been obvious that I was not only protown, but I was also going to die the following night. You should have used your last DT check on another player who was escaping the action, but still thought to be scummy by the town: Karshe, Cztha, Gmarshal. [Not that it made a difference, but your last check would be more fulfilling ]Honestly, I had no idea whether you were town or not. I didn't get any message that I got saved, and you quoting me wasn't really confirming yourself as town since you knew that I knew your role, so quoting me there was kind of a no-brainer :/ Besides, with you being completely unreadable in almost any way I felt like I had to check you because I simply couldn't be sure of your alignment. | ||
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