EPTClaiming it stops it from absorbing any kp, therefore reducing the usefulness of the role.
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Claiming it stops it from absorbing any kp, therefore reducing the usefulness of the role. | ||
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I posted that placeholder because I was considering putting my vote where it would actually make a difference. However if you ask, it´s a damn tough call. We may choose between tackster, who is practically inactive and will get modkilled if he doesn´t vote; sandroba, who got really believably upset in his own defense; tnkted, who claims being invulnerable until some later point; and viscera, who is, well, viscera. I know him from last game and I kinda feel bad for him. tnkted, you could have simply avoided drawing suspicion by, you know, playing pro town and helping discussion. Also, if Town has more KP than mafia, than we should be even more careful with it. I´m not ok with putting the whole game on the gutfeeling of some hidden people. Also, you have to acknowledge that claiming invulnerability removes a lot of suspicion from you. No one is going to discuss what the untouchable does. And that´s the part that makes me suspicious. You could claim easily what you want, if your role creator is on your team. | ||
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I can only read with half an eye right because i got stuff to do. I believe palmar with his claim on chaos 13 ## vote chaos13 | ||
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And apparently Viscera behaved exactly the same as in snmm2. I however do not think we should be that liberal with our killing powers. For all I can guess town kp are limited. And even unhelfpul townies count towards the number of living townies, which are kinda important to not lose. So not senseless shooting please. So my proposal for action is: Jokeratlarge gogo kill As for other night actions, if you can determine alignment go check tnkted. Palmar, do we have a clear read on Varpulis from overfistpounding or just your analysis? | ||
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Btw can you get fistpounds at night too? ##fistpound Palmar Just in case. And killing chaos13 should be a nobrainer. Palmar declared himself some sort of fistpound-driven alignment checker. If you flip town, Palmar is marked for death. | ||
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Nevermind the killorder then... | ||
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He claimed that the PM he got from decon said chaos13 is scum. Of course, when Palmar says he only knows that chaos13 has funny clothing and a gun, it becomes invalid. On June 02 2011 05:17 Palmar wrote: I'm calling you scum because you're scum. Also because your pm from dec said so. Good enough reasoning for me bro. On June 02 2011 06:50 Palmar wrote: You have a funny hat and a cigar, and you're holding a submachine gun. There, my analysis. Kill him please. I once thought Palmar was better than this. Now he is even trying to direct as many killing power as possible. Please someone credible reiterate that we should not vigi shoot on policy and hunches. | ||
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All day people call me scummy, I can accept that. What I find intriguing is that even though there never was any vote on me besides Tackster´s and no noteworthy case I recall, I am suddenly #1 vigihit. Redff is basically angry in my eyes, he began suspecting me after I put my vote on him and has constructed from the fact that I said I don´t want to prematurely vote and still voted him that i must be scum, along with anyone I defended. First, it´s OMGUS. I accuse, he accuses right back and with what fervor. Second, me, if i was scum, defending only my partners in crime is the worst assumption ever. Remember plz that Amber talking up again took about half a day. It was entirely plausible that redff´s role would stop the targeted player from speaking for the second half of the day. A possibility. So after a day of watching redff my verdict is obviously angry townie. He reminds me a bit of Viscera and Kurumi in this regard. Palmar on the other hand went back up on my scum radar. He doesn´t know how quick town will die this game, but yet he demands for 4 hits by town. Assuming that we get 3-7 other kills from scumteam, assassins and mad townplayer with guns, we would lose a third of the players in this game just this night. And most of the dead are gonna be town. You can´t be serious, bro. | ||
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If anyone has a role that can reveal who visits Sinani tonight, do that. The point is, even if Bloodycobbler comes back and we kill Bum and Cobbler is only a vanilla townie, we should still do it. Town play happens during day and you don´t need a role for it. In other words, Bloodycobbler as Vanilla town is still a bigger help than most other townies. Make it happen, Bum. Also, while we´re here. @Chaos13 Is it accurate that you have a funny hat a cigar and a submachine gun? If your answer is no then Palmar is imho lying about his rolecheckpower. And that would mean we still don´t know what Palmar fistpound power does. To quote Karshe, he could have a brofistdeathray for all we know. | ||
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On June 02 2011 06:50 Palmar wrote: You have a funny hat and a cigar, and you're holding a submachine gun. There, my analysis. Kill him please. Either that is the result of your check or its outright dumb. If you say its not a rolecheck, then please explain yourself. | ||
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Compare Palmar this game to Palmar in SNM2 where he was scum. His current playstyle reminds me a lot of that, including conditional voting. You might need to look hard for conditional voting, but I think he did at some point. Something like "Bro, I switch my vote to xx when he gets 2 more votes first" As for meta judgment on other players from snm2, Prplhz behaves different(bad sign), Karshe seems to behave about the same(good sign), and hiro seems to be a lot more active(good sign). For day2 I would advise to get a grip on how many kp and misinformation roles are out there. For example, Bum obviously has kp and kurumi claimed to have kp too. If Bum did not shoot at Sinani tonight, he should definitely die. Hope to see you tomorrow. | ||
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I mean he´s an intentionally useless lurker, I would be happy to know if he´s a scum lurker or not. And before I forget #fistpound Palmar I hope you get lucky again | ||
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If not, I´m having a lot less trouble today. | ||
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Cut back on sugar and coffeine and then maybe I will pay attention to you again. Look at Visceras post, then look back at your own. I am convinced you are innocent, but that doesn´t make you right. | ||
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Cobbler stated that it was all he was allowed to post. So decon prolly forbade him to say "dayvig sinani so I can live" Btw I´m cool with turning the Black Motherfucker back into vanilla. KP and misinformation are antitown in itself. Town wants detective type roles. We have 1 unclaimed kp this night. That means if all the shooters tonight are town and they just did not FUCKING SHOOT SEMIRANDOMLY, we would have only lost 2 guys. Instead we lost 6(Thats a fifth of all our players). If we go by lynching instead of vigishooting we get more nights for role and alignment checks. So for fucks sake don´t shoot people who are unconfirmed. Also, please claim out killpower roles. We have 1 unconfirmed shooting, chances are that the unclaimed shot was done by scum. + Show Spoiler + Redff, last game I answered to every little question asked to me. It cluttered up the thread. Also, I don´t feel any pressure, so you are doing it wrong. If you want to know my every little thought, vote me and ask via pm. People will be annoyed if I write even more | ||
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Common sense, use some. You know, just like I know the guy who enable you to make a last will. He is called the notary and he can do so every night. I am sure he town and you still don´t fucking know who he is. Town wants to kill by lynching. I also want to know misinformation roles, like framers. Look, Sandroba was artist. It´s anti town. I want to know what I´m playing against. | ||
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Its not my problem you can´t process a 50% suspicion. I said Palmar voted conditionally when he was scum. I did not say every scum does. Also I pressuerd you, since you turned into a raving lunatic over it. I am sorry I borked you. If you really want the long answers vote me and I´m going to explain in detail. If you don´t care enough for that, shut up. Guess why no one else is with you on this crusade? | ||
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Bum even claimed to not be town. Wiggles has 1 shot left, so he is not as dangerous as bum to keep around. Also Bum claimed roleblock, Kurumi claimed roleblock too. Both say they are SK. Kurumi says he still could shoot. 1 of them is lying. Bum is Joker, so I would call it possible that he can people into Harvey "TwoFace" Dent and redirect killpower as his actual role ability. It actually fits together. This is a way better explanation why Sinani still lives then a roleblock on a SK blocking his alignment killpower: Bum redirected a kill on Sinani. Probably to someone random. He claims roleblock to explain why Sinani still lives. Kurumi is actually SK and a gamethrower. Wiggles has claimed with full role, confirmed by hero and has only 1 shot left. To think we have Bum under control is dumb. We have no role to control his night actions and a roleblock claim is a direct contradiction to his "fellow" SK. He is more likely to be the supposed scum Mastermind. ##vote Bumatlarge *cross finger that Sandwich came too late* | ||
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