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On May 31 2011 10:46 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:40 tnkted wrote:
deskscaress, don't bother arguing with jackal, its pointless. hes gonna do what he wants regardless of what anyone else says.
And yes, this is extremely spammy for one of our games. generally we're a bit calmer.
k  i was just about to ask if he was the guy that held up lynch votes just so he could hammer and always voted for someone who had no votes just to be difficult cause it seems like it. but i guess you answered essentially the same question also, good to know that it will slow down slightly. i know this is a more website-related question but can someone tell me (or PM me if you don't want to clutter the thread) how to put more posts per page if possible? also, i like what someone said up above about posting in here who you want to vote for before you post in the voting thread so we can track wagons. that being said, my vote today is going to go for ##redFF for reasons stated in my last two posts. BOOM.
So your voting for him solely because you think that he is lying about his roleclaim?? Remember, we're trying to kill scum, and you didn't even state why you think he is scum.
I like how you also ignored my posts regarding him -_-
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##Vote: Torte de Lini for someone who is supposed to be super active the only thing he has done is play the noob card. Step up your game man.
Who do you think looks scummiest right now and why?
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On May 31 2011 10:55 chaos13 wrote:
And Mig and Varpulis are correct about me. I am my own person.
I also believe redFF's roleclaim. I doubt he is town though. I'm noticing a lot of lurkers and inactives though. There are a couple people who haven't checked in yet, and a few who made one or two posts at the beginning of the game and then disappeared.
Can you please elaborate why?
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On May 31 2011 10:54 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:43 bumatlarge wrote:On May 31 2011 10:36 Jackal58 wrote:On May 31 2011 10:31 deskscaress wrote:
more spam, more dilution of the thread, less chances to catch slips. i point this out, you quote it and spam some more. even if you aren't mafia (and i don't see this as a scum slip by any means), it's anti-town to spam for spamming's sake. so, why are you doing it, just to spite a new player? It's not spam. I don't know you from Adam. Yet you want to dictate how I post. It's information for you to put to use. Many of those in here are aware of how I post. And now you are. That's so meta. Cue a tail wag from amber. And holy balls jackal you are in this game? I thought you quit TL mafia... I like desk though, we need another straight forward and direct person in these forums. WINK WINK. I'm taking my vote off varp, I'd rather keep him around. Don't see any need to pressure palmer, he's obviously showing initiative with his posting. tnkted is a much better candidate I do believe so yes quite. I got over myself Bum. When I left my dad was dying and I was in a perpetual bad mood. I missed you guys. I saw this game and had to give it a go. Had I known a lawyer was going to write my role I may have passed. I have no issue with desk either. I just want to make sure he/she doesn't start confusing my short posts for posts with a lack of substance. And while we're at it. Hey Barundar. It's summer league now. I bowl on Wednesdays. So Bum what do you think about chaos13 and his desire to send Amber to the pound?
Ah hope everything goes well for you in life, glad to have you back. Edgar Allen Poe wrote your role too? Glad to hear I'm not alone.
Amber has some use. Obviously the creator gave some good half to that role, since amber is going to be stuck like that the whole game. He's going to lure a shot once we figure out what it is, but like the smart people have been saying, just leave it alone. I would need to read back to where chaos13 stated his move, because I don't really remember reading it.
Seems more like a fleeting suggestion looking at it now. He obviously isn't considering amber's benefits. Harmless Oversight probably.
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So far, we have the following data:
1. Amber is some sort of dog with a tracker/watcher role. He should be protected/bussed out of harms way tonight.
2. redff1 has a mason role. Also worth protecting.
3. Palmar has some sort of bro role. I think I have an idea what thats about, but I'ma stay mum until we know more.
4. I have some reason for not being afraid of getting killed. Hmm.......
As far as that goes, I think our best bet for a lynch today is................
On May 31 2011 05:54 sandroba wrote:
Alright every one seems to dislike the first part of my plan, but no one has commented on policy so far. The first part which we claim what player got our role is just to make policy easier.
Either way I say we policy lynch ANYONE who lies about their role. Town has very little reason to lie about their role while mafia has a lot of reasons.
What are you guys' opinions about this?
This is precicely the same plan I posted. The following people acted in a scummy way in response to it:
On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that!
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp?
On May 31 2011 10:47 Mig wrote:
I am gonna toss my vote onto tnkted for now. He has been floating through the thread without contributing much, which is true for a lot of people right now, but then as soon as he is criticized by bum he throws out a 5 paragraph plan which isn't even really a plan so much as it's just common sense. Maybe it is just unfortunate timing for him but it looks a lot like someone over compensating and attempting to appear town after being pressured.
more coming after the break, i have to go move furniture.
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On May 31 2011 10:58 GMarshal wrote:
##Vote: Torte de Lini for someone who is supposed to be super active the only thing he has done is play the noob card. Step up your game man.
Who do you think looks scummiest right now and why?
no. dont do this and you know better GM
Before i played mafia, i was active too but this game would really bum me from posting (today i was out exploring the city so i have an excuse  )
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actually, i change my mind!
go go Pressure!!
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On May 31 2011 10:46 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:40 tnkted wrote:
deskscaress, don't bother arguing with jackal, its pointless. hes gonna do what he wants regardless of what anyone else says.
And yes, this is extremely spammy for one of our games. generally we're a bit calmer.
k i was just about to ask if he was the guy that held up lynch votes just so he could hammer and always voted for someone who had no votes just to be difficult cause it seems like it. but i guess you answered essentially the same question also, good to know that it will slow down slightly. i know this is a more website-related question but can someone tell me (or PM me if you don't want to clutter the thread) how to put more posts per page if possible? also, i like what someone said up above about posting in here who you want to vote for before you post in the voting thread so we can track wagons. that being said, my vote today is going to go for ##redFF for reasons stated in my last two posts. BOOM.
I don't really think you built a big enough case on me to warrant a BOOM. Quoting 3 of my many posts and then concluding I am scum isn't exactly the most convincing argument. And as I have said, if i was lying about my claim I'm sure there would be somebody pressuring me far harder about it than you or anybody else are. Amber wasn't exactly under a huge amount of pressure so i don't think calling us both scum is a valid argument...
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On May 31 2011 10:57 Cthsazsa wrote:
So your voting for him solely because you think that he is lying about his roleclaim?? Remember, we're trying to kill scum, and you didn't even state why you think he is scum.
I like how you also ignored my posts regarding him -_-
no, i'm not even saying i think he IS lying about his roleclaim. i'm just saying he COULD be. sorry i missed your earlier post. lots going on in this thread. i'll address it now
On May 31 2011 10:45 Cthsazsa wrote:
I honestly believe redFF's roleclaim. Meapak, if you are FoSing him because of that, please start tunneling him or something. The only reason why I think you would FoS him is because you're the man who gave him a role.
No one has countered redFF's claim, so I think it's safe to say we drop that?
i'm FoSing him because he claimed he would find the scum, then claimed he wouldn't be able to help us, then claimed a role, then claimed he had an epiphany that he WOULD be able to help us. to me that just felt like damage control. i'm not buying the FoS's on Valipus or w/e yet, and no one else has appeared scummy to me.
i do understand that we are trying to kill scum, but likewise, you must also understand that we have very little to go on. no official information at all. no night kills, no reports, no PMs. all we have are claims. and in an "everyone has a different power" game, why would ANYONE counterclaim a role? like i said, redFF very well could have a useless role and then he made up a role that "communicates" with the one person that the rest of us can't get a straight answer out of. that's scummy to me. we need to lynch someone and he's my only FoS right now
that being said, beyond Palmar's bro-type posting, has anyone else noticed that he's typed Valipus as "ValipuS" several times, including the voting thread? i'm not gonna comb back over his posts (and for all i know the second is the proper way to write it, and no one else is doing that) and i could be creating a false memory but i could swear he keeps doing that :s
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On May 31 2011 11:00 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 10:54 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:43 bumatlarge wrote:On May 31 2011 10:36 Jackal58 wrote:On May 31 2011 10:31 deskscaress wrote:
more spam, more dilution of the thread, less chances to catch slips. i point this out, you quote it and spam some more. even if you aren't mafia (and i don't see this as a scum slip by any means), it's anti-town to spam for spamming's sake. so, why are you doing it, just to spite a new player? It's not spam. I don't know you from Adam. Yet you want to dictate how I post. It's information for you to put to use. Many of those in here are aware of how I post. And now you are. That's so meta. Cue a tail wag from amber. And holy balls jackal you are in this game? I thought you quit TL mafia... I like desk though, we need another straight forward and direct person in these forums. WINK WINK. I'm taking my vote off varp, I'd rather keep him around. Don't see any need to pressure palmer, he's obviously showing initiative with his posting. tnkted is a much better candidate I do believe so yes quite. I got over myself Bum. When I left my dad was dying and I was in a perpetual bad mood. I missed you guys. I saw this game and had to give it a go. Had I known a lawyer was going to write my role I may have passed. I have no issue with desk either. I just want to make sure he/she doesn't start confusing my short posts for posts with a lack of substance. And while we're at it. Hey Barundar. It's summer league now. I bowl on Wednesdays. So Bum what do you think about chaos13 and his desire to send Amber to the pound? Ah hope everything goes well for you in life, glad to have you back. Edgar Allen Poe wrote your role too? Glad to hear I'm not alone. Amber has some use. Obviously the creator gave some good half to that role, since amber is going to be stuck like that the whole game. He's going to lure a shot once we figure out what it is, but like the smart people have been saying, just leave it alone. I would need to read back to where chaos13 stated his move, because I don't really remember reading it. Seems more like a fleeting suggestion looking at it now. He obviously isn't considering amber's benefits. Harmless Oversight probably.
Thanks. It's sorted.
Chaos13 is a pretty sharp cookie. He doesn't make very many harmless oversights. He's worth keeping an eye on.
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On May 31 2011 11:00 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:54 sandroba wrote:
Alright every one seems to dislike the first part of my plan, but no one has commented on policy so far. The first part which we claim what player got our role is just to make policy easier.
Either way I say we policy lynch ANYONE who lies about their role. Town has very little reason to lie about their role while mafia has a lot of reasons.
What are you guys' opinions about this? This is precicely the same plan I posted. The following people acted in a scummy way in response to it:
If that is the same plan you posted why did you feel you needed to write 5 paragraphs and post it again after him? I don't have a problem with the plan (which was just common sense) but I have a problem with you writing out a long post to appear pro town, while not actually contributing anything, right after bum put a little pressure on.
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To all the people worrying about whether or not redFF is telling the truth about his role, it doesn't matter if he is roles are NOT equal to alignment if you want to think he is scum then please build a case, but don't do it based on his role or what he said about his role.
Let me put this out on the table now, role discussion is useless at this point, its not helping us find scum and its not moving us forward. So cut it out. Now if not sooner.
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On May 31 2011 10:59 Cthsazsa wrote:Can you please elaborate why?
Certainly.
To begin with is this post:
On May 31 2011 06:04 redFF wrote:
I don't actually see a point in the game where my role can be useful...
A mason role isn't useful to scum or third party. It is extremely useful to town.
On May 31 2011 08:40 redFF wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna claim.
I'm an interrogator. What is that? I can vote somebody to be lynched, and I will be allowed to exchange pm's with the person I voted for the rest of the day.
I'm going to vote Amber so I can talk to him and get to the bottom of this whole situation.
I don't see anybody else who i feel like pm'ing today to be perfectly honest.
My role is not that powerful, I am not a powerful player. Me claiming can only be good for town. Scum won't hit me(I think) because my role is far less powerful than some of the other roles currently in play. They also have far better/more experienced people to hit than me. If anyone has a problem with my claim please say so, but i feel like this is the correct decision to make at this stage.
This post has some serious issues with me.
1. Dumb roleclaim. It doesn't help us at all - he could have just used his power and then said "k guys I don't think we need to worry about Amber for these reasons ____ without actually having to claim his role.
2.Scum won't hit me(I think) because my role is far less powerful than some of the other roles currently in play.
How the hell does he know this? The only way is if he is on a mafia team and they are allowed to share their roles with each other. For all he knows vote-mason could be the best role in the entire game.
On May 31 2011 08:45 redFF wrote:
I figured out a way i could be useful chaos btw.
And then "I know how I can be useful - I'll use my role!"
No, really? Brilliant.
The rest of his posts have not contained anything overly helpful, and I know from playing on UG with him and observing his games that he is a better player than he is being right now, and that as scum he tends to do stupid things with roleclaims.
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On May 31 2011 11:07 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:57 Cthsazsa wrote:
So your voting for him solely because you think that he is lying about his roleclaim?? Remember, we're trying to kill scum, and you didn't even state why you think he is scum.
I like how you also ignored my posts regarding him -_-
no, i'm not even saying i think he IS lying about his roleclaim. i'm just saying he COULD be. sorry i missed your earlier post. lots going on in this thread. i'll address it now Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:45 Cthsazsa wrote:
I honestly believe redFF's roleclaim. Meapak, if you are FoSing him because of that, please start tunneling him or something. The only reason why I think you would FoS him is because you're the man who gave him a role.
No one has countered redFF's claim, so I think it's safe to say we drop that? i'm FoSing him because he claimed he would find the scum, then claimed he wouldn't be able to help us, then claimed a role, then claimed he had an epiphany that he WOULD be able to help us. to me that just felt like damage control. i'm not buying the FoS's on Valipus or w/e yet, and no one else has appeared scummy to me. i do understand that we are trying to kill scum, but likewise, you must also understand that we have very little to go on. no official information at all. no night kills, no reports, no PMs. all we have are claims. and in an "everyone has a different power" game, why would ANYONE counterclaim a role? like i said, redFF very well could have a useless role and then he made up a role that "communicates" with the one person that the rest of us can't get a straight answer out of. that's scummy to me. we need to lynch someone and he's my only FoS right now that being said, beyond Palmar's bro-type posting, has anyone else noticed that he's typed Valipus as "ValipuS" several times, including the voting thread? i'm not gonna comb back over his posts (and for all i know the second is the proper way to write it, and no one else is doing that) and i could be creating a false memory but i could swear he keeps doing that :s
red's every other word when he's scum is "fuck"
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On May 31 2011 11:07 deskscaress wrote:
that being said, beyond Palmar's bro-type posting, has anyone else noticed that he's typed Valipus as "ValipuS" several times, including the voting thread?
i want to correct this, sorry. "ValpuriS" instead of Valpuris
also +1 to everything that chaos reiterated and explained better than i did. redFF is super scummy to me right now
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On May 31 2011 11:11 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 11:07 deskscaress wrote:
that being said, beyond Palmar's bro-type posting, has anyone else noticed that he's typed Valipus as "ValipuS" several times, including the voting thread? i want to correct this, sorry. "ValpuriS" instead of Valpuris also +1 to everything that chaos reiterated and explained better than i did. redFF is super scummy to me right now
ValpuriS is Valpuris's name before he got a namechange, those of us who played with him in the past are used to the capital S, but the correct form is now without it, so don't worry too much about it.
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On May 31 2011 10:40 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also, FoS on Mataza, Redff, and hiro protagonist.
For what reason? Names and lists without reasons are worthless. What did they do to merit a FoS that say, Palmar has not?
They were merely gut reads and I wanted to gauge reactions. Needless to say I know that names and lists are worthless, I'm just testing the waters with people I haven't played with before.
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Chaos i seriously doubt that vote mason is the strongest role in the game. I didn't understand the full usefulness of my role and I still don't to be honest. I thought it would be kind of bad since i would find it difficult justifying a random vote. Me saying I will catch scum by any means possible was a slight crumb to being able to "interrogate" people. I figured that day 1 the most useful thing i could do was claim. At worst I will be hit and town will lose an average player with an ok role and at best i would have been able to communicate with our friend AMber. Also can people stop saying my roleclaim isn't real because the only way for it not to be real at this stage is if both I and Amber are scum.
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Well, damn.
Just went through red's post history. I think I skimmed over the posts where he keeps complaining, because I don't remember them.
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Yo red why you you spell amber's name AMber?
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