EPTVarpulis, what do you think of GMarshal?
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
Varpulis, what do you think of GMarshal? | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
I'm an interrogator. What is that? I can vote somebody to be lynched, and I will be allowed to exchange pm's with the person I voted for the rest of the day. I'm going to vote Amber so I can talk to him and get to the bottom of this whole situation. I don't see anybody else who i feel like pm'ing today to be perfectly honest. My role is not that powerful, I am not a powerful player. Me claiming can only be good for town. Scum won't hit me(I think) because my role is far less powerful than some of the other roles currently in play. They also have far better/more experienced people to hit than me. If anyone has a problem with my claim please say so, but i feel like this is the correct decision to make at this stage. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:37 Torte de Lini wrote: Wow, this game is so damn utterly fast and confusing. Does it tone down after Day 1? I hate the idea of not being to edit, so I'll just ask all my questions in one basket.
1.) Usually but not always. I did warn you that things move fast  2.) Day1 lynches usually degenerate into lynching inactives, however with good scumhunting its sometimes possibly to pin down and lynch mafia 3.) Things that help us find scum. Basically limit yourself to discussing things that force you to commit to and opinion on someone. For example, if you say you really think _____ is town and defend them heavaly for three days and then they flip mafia, well then we have a lead. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On May 31 2011 06:43 deconduo wrote: Once again, no talking about picks until Day 2. This will be enforced with lightning. -_- | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
I don't see a problem with a claim, but if non-scum created his role and he's lying in an anti-town way, that shit better get smacked right away. Call the bullshit if this role aint true. But while no one calls you, I'm gonna assume you're cool. Can I get a fistpound bro? #Fistpound: redFF | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
2. We do our best to analyze and hope scum slip. 3. Things that will help us find scum and create a pro-town atmosphere. Call out lurkers, ask players questions/thoughts on the game or other players. On May 31 2011 06:04 redFF wrote: I don't actually see a point in the game where my role can be useful... This is an example of a fluffy and pointless post. It didn't help us find scum or create positive discussion. + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2011 08:23 Palmar wrote: Woah, that bro sure got some explainin' to do. Ya feel me? He's playing like a bitch, and not a man. Let's keep it real VarpuliS, look at these posts from early SNMMI + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2011 05:19 Varpulis wrote: Alright, just got back! Read through the thread, and from what I can gather, everybody either wants to a) Lynch an inactive player because he might be lurking scum/ because he won't be helpful later on. b) Wait to see how things play out. I think we should pressure lurkers, but put the votes towards suspicious characters once we get the lurkers talking. + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2011 06:27 Varpulis wrote: This is a scummy post. He gets defensive and says two scummy lines, which I bolded. Not sure if it's just defensive posting because Zorkmid called him scum or an actual scumtell, but it's suspicious. I highly doubt that Forumite is scum though, so I might just be overanalysing. Zorkmid's schtick about Forumite being scummy because he' busy over the weekend is bullshit though. Gotta take a note, these are first two posts from that game, this aint the VarpuliS we're seein' here today, hell naw, this bro got something fishy goin' on. He even does an analysis on a mafia, day 1, not afraid of nothin', that bro. I liked that man, he didn't take no shit from anyone + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote: ...And as promised, here is my analysis of Shcoleosis' posts. First post is a response to Eternalmisfit's suggestion to pressure lurkers This bolded line is not scummy, it's just stupid. Mafia doesn't kill by talking, they kill by pm'ing GMarshal at night. Mafia needs to avoid drawing attention to itself to prevent themselves from getting lynched. This post in general is pretty worthless, ending with a line that is... strange. This is the first scumtell I can see. She basically says "don't listen to me, i'm new." Townies need to talk and be listened to, not ignored because this is their first game. Only mafia and blues benefit from being ignored, so unless he roleclaims, lets assume scum. Second post comes a little bit later. the post reads: This is a post which blends in. It says practically nothing, but appears to be a contribution. Blending in is not something a townie needs to do. +1 scum level. Finally, we've got lucky number 3: Here, Shcoleosis basically says: "you seem to disagree with me... fine, you're right!" Agreeing with everybody else is something that two kinds of players do: -unhelpful townies -because they're just being sheep -mafia -because they're trying to blend in I don't want either in my town come lategame. Based off of this analysis, I'd like to start putting some pressure on Shcoleosis. Until a better target surfaces or she comes up with some good posts later on, I'll put my vote on her. ## Vote Shcoleosis But now, compare it to the worthlessness that is VarpuliS this game: Silly idea from a silly man, we don't want to tell the mafia what kind of roles we designed, we don't need to give mafia info to work with man... Here he's just backing off cause y'know, this VarpuliS aint got no balls, now he just afraid like a little bitch. Then he goes on and tries to communicate with the dog for a while, that's just silly derailing, I ain't buying that shit. And then man, the worst of all... A goddamn excuse? A real man, a man that aint got nothin' to hide just sticks to his guns and grabs his balls of steel and says, yo, look, I'm smarter than you bro, so just shut up. No, this bro aint no baller, this bro is a damn scum. This is an example of a good post. Not only did it discuss and analyze a player to help provide input from multiple players (which is always a good thing), it started further discussion. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:23 Palmar wrote: + Show Spoiler [post] + Woah, that bro sure got some explainin' to do. Ya feel me? He's playing like a bitch, and not a man. Let's keep it real VarpuliS, look at these posts from early SNMMI + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2011 05:19 Varpulis wrote: Alright, just got back! Read through the thread, and from what I can gather, everybody either wants to a) Lynch an inactive player because he might be lurking scum/ because he won't be helpful later on. b) Wait to see how things play out. I think we should pressure lurkers, but put the votes towards suspicious characters once we get the lurkers talking. + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2011 06:27 Varpulis wrote: This is a scummy post. He gets defensive and says two scummy lines, which I bolded. Not sure if it's just defensive posting because Zorkmid called him scum or an actual scumtell, but it's suspicious. I highly doubt that Forumite is scum though, so I might just be overanalysing. Zorkmid's schtick about Forumite being scummy because he' busy over the weekend is bullshit though. Gotta take a note, these are first two posts from that game, this aint the VarpuliS we're seein' here today, hell naw, this bro got something fishy goin' on. He even does an analysis on a mafia, day 1, not afraid of nothin', that bro. I liked that man, he didn't take no shit from anyone + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote: ...And as promised, here is my analysis of Shcoleosis' posts. First post is a response to Eternalmisfit's suggestion to pressure lurkers This bolded line is not scummy, it's just stupid. Mafia doesn't kill by talking, they kill by pm'ing GMarshal at night. Mafia needs to avoid drawing attention to itself to prevent themselves from getting lynched. This post in general is pretty worthless, ending with a line that is... strange. This is the first scumtell I can see. She basically says "don't listen to me, i'm new." Townies need to talk and be listened to, not ignored because this is their first game. Only mafia and blues benefit from being ignored, so unless he roleclaims, lets assume scum. Second post comes a little bit later. the post reads: This is a post which blends in. It says practically nothing, but appears to be a contribution. Blending in is not something a townie needs to do. +1 scum level. Finally, we've got lucky number 3: Here, Shcoleosis basically says: "you seem to disagree with me... fine, you're right!" Agreeing with everybody else is something that two kinds of players do: -unhelpful townies -because they're just being sheep -mafia -because they're trying to blend in I don't want either in my town come lategame. Based off of this analysis, I'd like to start putting some pressure on Shcoleosis. Until a better target surfaces or she comes up with some good posts later on, I'll put my vote on her. ## Vote Shcoleosis But now, compare it to the worthlessness that is VarpuliS this game: On May 31 2011 05:23 Varpulis wrote: I'm guessing something to do with either an alignment switch or an alternative win condition. On May 31 2011 05:35 Varpulis wrote: I think that we should claim not who we designed the role for, but what purpose the role has. This doesn't put the person with the role in any danger, and gives us a rough idea of what we have to work with. It could be as simple as [ ] KP [ ] Information [ ] survivability (extra lives) [ ] unlisted check all that apply. That's vague enough that nobody should be able to tell that they got the role that you're pointing out, but specific enough to be useful. I for one would like to know how many roles with DTesque powers there are. thoughts? Silly idea from a silly man, we don't want to tell the mafia what kind of roles we designed, we don't need to give mafia info to work with man... On May 31 2011 05:43 Varpulis wrote: My plan could get fucked up bigtime by scum fake claiming, just like any other. I think that it's a better alternative to sandroba's plan, which I don't like. Why don't we ditch them both? Neither is very good, I think. Later on, they could be more useful. Until crazy shit starts happening, i'm going to treat this like we're all vanilla, like Palmar suggested. Here he's just backing off cause y'know, this VarpuliS aint got no balls, now he just afraid like a little bitch. Then he goes on and tries to communicate with the dog for a while, that's just silly derailing, I ain't buying that shit. And then man, the worst of all... On May 31 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote: I'm always a bit lost day 1, bum. About the Zodiac lists: At this point they just seem to be lists of strong vets, and I don't know you guys well enough to make an informed list. BC has looked pro-town, as have you. Not really sure who else. Sandroba, maybe. he's proven to be a good player, and his posts have been mostly good, barring the claiming plan. I'd like to know why specifically kita is voting for me. Is it because of my bad posting? I'll try to work on that. Specifically, I'm going to be quiet, because I'm not really sure what to do. what does NoC stand for? A goddamn excuse? A real man, a man that aint got nothin' to hide just sticks to his guns and grabs his balls of steel and says, yo, look, I'm smarter than you bro, so just shut up. No, this bro aint no baller, this bro is a damn scum. Different circumstances, man! a nine man game where the scum slips easily, there are no experienced players, and the only thing to talk about is whether or not we should policy lynch lurkers is way different from a 30 man game where everybody's got a batshit insane role and are discussing roleclaims and zodiac lists (which I had never heard of). This is the most vet-filled and spammy game I've played in so far. With all the talk about amber and zodiac lists, I can't find any real scumtells yet. So yes, I'm being less assertive. Does that mean I'm scum? no. oh, btw, loving the WifoM on whether I'm scum based on a joke in the beginning of the game. Coming back to bite me now, aint it? | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On May 31 2011 07:20 GMarshal wrote: I agree with Palmar, we are done discussing roles. We have ten pages of stuff to work with at this point, so let me ask some questions. Who does everyone think is most likely to be town. from their posts alone? Who hasn't posted yet who you would have expected to post? This post especially makes me think that he's town. It encourages discussion, posting opinions, and keeps us on-topic. | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:40 redFF wrote: Ok, I'm gonna claim. I'm an interrogator. What is that? I can vote somebody to be lynched, and I will be allowed to exchange pm's with the person I voted for the rest of the day. I'm going to vote Amber so I can talk to him and get to the bottom of this whole situation. I don't see anybody else who i feel like pm'ing today to be perfectly honest. My role is not that powerful, I am not a powerful player. Me claiming can only be good for town. Scum won't hit me(I think) because my role is far less powerful than some of the other roles currently in play. They also have far better/more experienced people to hit than me. If anyone has a problem with my claim please say so, but i feel like this is the correct decision to make at this stage. If it is true, it is a really bad role claim. I can think of multiple situations where this role can be rather powerful. Even in the case you wanted to talk to Amber, I don't think you should have role-claimed.  Well, what's done is done. I hope you do not get hit by lightning and no one else follows suit in pointless role-claims. :| | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:28 Varpulis wrote: Alright, let me summarize what I've been saying:
The rest of my posts are either about a bad plan that I've abandoned or Amber. *grrr.....* *grrr.....* | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Amber bro, you got me hangin' on that #pawpound, don't leave me | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On May 31 2011 07:19 hiro protagonist wrote: @Amber *grrrr...*--->"no" *wiggles his tail*---> "yes" Is the above correct? *sniff sniff...* *woof* *barks loudly* *growls* does one of these mean you suspect scum? *whines sadly* *lies down* not sure about these... now for the most important question, am I going about this in the right way? Amber: can you answer these questions for me | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote: This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward. Deflecting without giving an alternative. Check! | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:56 bumatlarge wrote: Deflecting without giving an alternative. Check! Lol, ok, fair enough. I think we need to set up a system of balances in this game. The chances of the mafia being unlucky enough to have given each others roles is very slim. Therefore I propose this: If somebody claims in the thread, whoever gave that role needs to look at the claim carefully. If it lies or is an entirely different role, announce you gave that person the role in the thread. This way we can catch fakeclaims. However, this won't be very effective later in the game because the people who gave the roles will be dead, and the possibility of fakeclaiming will be much less likely. For example, I'm much more inclined to trust redff1's roleclaim if nobody claims today... since everybody will read it and the real person who gave Red's role will undoubtedly counterclaim. tldr; if your person claims a fake role in thread, say so. otherwise stfu and let them be. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:26 Eternalmisfit wrote: Care to explain why you think that the zodiac lists are bad? I also find it interesting that you complain about spam while the entirety of your posting in this thread is fluff. I already did. They are just lists of players who have played the most games. A couple are fine, but we don't need all 30 players making a list without posting content. @tnkted, you still didn't provide an alternative. Also, your plan is common sense. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Nobody is gonna claim that they gave redFF his role today or else they might just suffer the wrath of Zeus. This game is pretty crazy but I think that everybody might be very confused. Nobody's got a clear picture of the game, they only know how crazy their own role is and how crazy a role they gave to somebody. And what is this system really going to accomplish? Can't people just say "he's is fake roleclaiming" instead of saying this in a predetermined semi-convoluted way? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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