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Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 11 2011 06:09 GMT

#153

I would like to /in if there's still room, I'm assuming there is since Jackal just outed.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 11 2011 18:29 GMT

#163

Actually /out

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 12 2011 23:13 GMT

#197

Happy birthday Ver!!!!!

/in! There's my birthday present for you :D

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 13 2011 04:57 GMT

#209

On May 13 2011 08:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Happy birthday Ver!!!!!

/in! There's my birthday present for you :D

Ver... I inned... for your Bday... yet I am not on the signup list... or the back up list... I am in limbo O_O

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 16 2011 05:22 GMT

#455

Amazing day post Ver

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 20 2011 18:26 GMT

#1136

Hi ppl I love you.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 20 2011 19:38 GMT

#1147

Caller, Radfield, Barunder, and Flamewheel look pretty green from my vantage point on page 44

KillerSOS is scummy as hell

I'm torn on Chezinu.

Just wanted to say this so people know I'm paying attention, it'll take me another thirty minutes or so to finish the thread, will decide who to vote for once I'm done.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 20 2011 20:31 GMT

#1158

Ok so Chez is mafia, almost sure.

I trust the GMarshal claim because his play looks like his normal town meta (although town meta did net us a terrible day one lynch eh Incog)

I'm pretty sure flamewheel is town as well because his claim doesn't make much sense for mafia

This leaves Node, Caller, and Incog.

Caller has done good analysis and voiced suspicions of people I'm suspicious of as well. To me he is the towniest out of these three. Node has made several appearences on different people's scum lists. These accusations are pretty spot on and he sure feels a lot scummier than Caller. Finally we have Incog who I've been all over the place with. When he first started his Kav bandwagon I was sooo sure he was scum mainly because the logic was really bad and the argument was forced. However nuking Chez actually made him seem more protown in my eyes because he's not afraid to bring attention to this group.

Basically here's how things should go down. Chez gets nuked and everyone is happy. Wiggles kills Node. If node flips red we all go and kill incog, if node is red we all kill KillerSOS, the scummiest player by far. Wiggles needs to kill node soon though so we can have enough time to lynch Incog if need be.

I will be voting KillerSOS unless Node flips green.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 20 2011 20:33 GMT

#1159

I also see Chaoser's name popping up as scum. When these accusations first appeared in the thread they seemed pretty retarded but as time passes and Chaoser fails to appear these suspicions seem more and more appropriate.

I also am suspicious of Eii and Kitaman.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 20 2011 20:46 GMT

#1163

perhaps activity isn't the right word... he's just not active in his usual way. It's more of a gut feeling.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 20 2011 20:53 GMT

#1166

DON'T KILL KILLERSOS

Wiggles kill node, we need to keep things focused on the 5 people on the kavwagon. PLZ don't kill KillerSOS, if you don't wanna kill node then at least kill incog.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 20 2011 21:40 GMT

#1177

lol no I'm not desperate, notice I'm voting KillerSOS in the voting thread. What I want to do is to clear up this whole deal with the 2/6 mafia voting for Kav. Chez is 100% dying so that leaves us with you, Caller, Incog, GM, and FW. Unfourtunately for you, you are the scummiest out of that bunch. If Wiggles kills you and the nuke kills Chez than we've netted two scum. There is of course the possibility of a framer or that you or Chez are town but at some point it all becomes extreme WIFOM. Right now we need to take action and see some flips in order to have a better idea for our collective lynch.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 20 2011 21:55 GMT

#1181

Nah Barundar not at all, no way do I want us to stop scum hunting. I fully expect GMarshal to die tonight but I think we should make use of the info he gave us and lynch at least once from the pool of 6. Right now I feel like our focus should be here and I don't think it wont kill us to spend a day discussing it (the only danger is if it became like the item game from insane 2 lolol)

Don't worry I have no intention of crutching on blues :D

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 00:31 GMT

#1197

Incog isnt the best lynch methinks. My alter ego was supper convinced he is town and while I'm not her I feel it would be better to kill someone else out of the kavwagon. While Incog has acted pretty insane I'm not ready to pull the trigger yet because I think node is a better option. Seriously, I know I've said this before but I'll say it again. Kill node now with king vote. If he flips green (doubt it) then we lynch Incog. If he flips red than we just prevented ourselves from killing a strong a vocal townie and allows us to use our lynch on someone else. This is the fastest and most efficient way to resolve this IMO.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 00:34 GMT

#1199

On May 21 2011 09:33 KillerSOS wrote:
Managed to get through the last 2 pages on my horrible phone internet... If you want to lynch me it's a waste, but feel free.

I'm PYP Tracker

Results of your action last night?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 00:47 GMT

#1207

On May 21 2011 09:43 Radfield wrote:
This KillerSOS train already felt crappy anyways.

Lets either focus on Incog/Node or preferably focus on chaoser/Originalname.

No one has built an official case thus far against chaoser, but he's had a lot of defense, so I'm going to start.

I'm cool with that and I'll unvote KillerSOS and vote node instead. However look at Killer's claim, it's probably the weakest thing I've ever seen, also look at the result of his action, it's a really easy one for mafia to fake. I wouldn't consider him cleared at all but I'll focus on Node/Incog for the sake of keeping things focused in one place.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 00:48 GMT

#1210

Ok yeah you saw it too Radfield. We need to do my plan -_- we can potentially net three scum if everything goes well.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 00:54 GMT

#1211

On second thought I'm not switching votes and I don't buy Killer's claim at all. Radfield I'd switch your vote to killer if you think incog is town. Node isn't going to die by standard lynch, theres not enough time left.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 01:30 GMT

#1225

On May 21 2011 10:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

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Sure, I'm just trying to figure out who to shoot. :p

Wiggles I understand you're not sure who to shoot. However I'm starting to feel like you're stalling.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 01:34 GMT

#1228

On May 21 2011 10:30 Incognito wrote:

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On May 21 2011 10:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

On May 21 2011 10:13 Incognito wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:45 Foolishness wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:24 Ace wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:07 Radfield wrote:

On May 21 2011 04:34 Ace wrote:
@GMarshal: If we don't lynch Incognito then who from the remaining players on the list is the second Scum? We have to clear that out first. Does ANYONE else on that list appear Scummier than Incognito? If so, vote for them.

I'm not trying to be a dink here, but I don't fully understand why we need to clear the list out. I understand we need to eventually, but why right away, right now? We have the information, so it can wait for us to deal with it until we're ready. Our ultimate goal is to kill the mafia, so if targeting players on the list doesn't get that done the best, then we let it lie for now. No?

No one really has a anti-town read on either Caller or flame, GMarshal seems town aligned, Incog seems town to a large portion, and Node doesn't seem particularly scummy. It seems to me that waiting a night cycle and putting some investigations on those remaining 5 is a prudent course of action.

If mafia want to shoot players off the list, great. Better them than us.

Also, GMarshall, it's a bit ironic that you mention no one is coming to Incogs defense, because actually quite a few players are. Myself, Barundar, yourself, tnkted, dreamflower and maybe a couple others. Mind you, in my mind those are almost mostly 'lock-solid townies'.

We clear it out because we know 2 out of 6 are scum. Why would we go another direction when we already know where to look? That makes no sense.

Secondly a "large portion" of town hasn't claimed Incog is innocent, especially looking at the voting thread so that point is false. If you don't have an anti-town read on Caller or flame, believe GMashal and Incog are town, and that Node doesn't seem Scummy then who does that leave?

Odds are even better because it's 2/5. So far Chaoser is the only one that sheds doubt upon the validity of the 2/5 (more due to mafia intervention with a framer than he doubts GMarshal). With all the nice KP roles for the mafia I find it hard to believe they would pick framer. Especially since if they wanted to hide themselves they'd be picking the GF roles instead of framer.

As what Ace said before, we need to clean up the list now because the odds are better than trying to hunt in the town pool. I don't see how you can make an argument against this, especially since it's only day 2 (it's not like we got 5 days of analysis to try to pin down mafia).

Anyone who tries to vote elsewhere or make analysis on other people than the 5 (6) in the list need to be looked at carefully once the list is sorted through. All you're doing at the moment is distracting the town. If we just focus on the list we can hopefully nail the 2 mafia without suffering town casualties. These paragraphs and paragraphs of analysis against myself, chaoser, KillerSOS are just cluttering up the town at the moment, and the people making these are mafia in my head because they are just trying to get the town off focus from the list.

If you think I'm mafia, or chaoser is mafia, or whoever is not on the list, great. I'm all for throwing analysis around. But geez just wait until the list is cleared up and stop cluttering the thread. Summarize your suspicion in one sentence and focus on someone on the list.

And before you jump on me for not doing this, I have wanted to kill Incog since yesterday, same reasons as Ace has stated, and that hasn't changed. If there still is a mafia on the list after Incog and Chez are dead I want to kill Node.

Mr. analysis and scumhunting is content to go with "the odds" and chill on the sidelines. This is too funny.

On May 21 2011 05:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Incog's nuke also doesn't do too much to his credit. Let me say this: Killing Chezinu, like KillerSOS or other lurkers, is easy. It was an easy kill, because town was expressing suspicion of him and a desire to kill him with my king lynch. As well, he hasn't contributed much if anything to town so far, and was mostly dead weight. So, killing him doesn't take much thought to do.

That said, I don't think I'll kill Incog right now. I'd rather leave him alive, and at the mercy of the lynch.

Actually, I think you should vig me right now so that you get more information that comes out of the scramble of all the invalid ##Vote Incognito votes. Its pretty clear that you will get no information from my lynch. Its easy for mafia to jump on either side of the wagon. If you vig me, people will actually be forced to give reasons on why they are voting for the other suspects. And Ironically you want to kill KillerSOS, who you say is a easy. Why go for the easy kill? Do the right thing and kill me instead and force people to give reasons for their votes on the other suspects.

Vigging you and having you flip green doesn't solve anything. All at does is make your voters hop over to Node, or KillerSOS, without the need to provide any substantial reasoning. If I were to shoot into you/Node, it would be because one of you are likely to be red. If I don't shoot into you, I'd effectively be doing house cleaning, getting rid of non-contributing, scummy looking, lurkers like KillerSOS or ON.

There's already been a massive bandwagon on KillerSOS. People aren't focusing on that bandwagon too much because they are focused on lynching Incognito. Get rid of that, and suddenly they have to think about stuff. Voting Incognito is a no-brainer. Among all these "lurkers", there has to be a reason why you think one is more suspicious than the other.

Incog, in the most politiest way possible I am asking you to kindly shut up. Stop being such a damn martyr. At this point you're spamming and not being helpful.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 01:41 GMT

#1234

On May 21 2011 10:37 Incognito wrote:
Shooting into the list is not 2/5. Its only 2/5 if Chezinu is town. If Chezinu is mafia, its 1/5, which is worse than randomly shooting into the entire player list. Considering that you're already lynching me, its ridiculous to be shooting Node too. Wake up and stop sheeping Ace/Foolishness/Caller.

Incog are you claiming mafia? If you are town you should be want more shots going into that group not less. Why is it foolish to shoot node even if we're lynching you? You should know you're town and want to hurt the mafia as much as possible.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 01:49 GMT

#1237

On May 21 2011 10:39 Incognito wrote:

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On May 21 2011 10:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On May 21 2011 10:30 Incognito wrote:

On May 21 2011 10:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

On May 21 2011 10:13 Incognito wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:45 Foolishness wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:24 Ace wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:07 Radfield wrote:

Mr. analysis and scumhunting is content to go with "the odds" and chill on the sidelines. This is too funny.

Incog, in the most politiest way possible I am asking you to kindly shut up. Stop being such a damn martyr. At this point you're spamming and not being helpful.

This is not martyrdom. Think of it logically. Because Incognito is on the vote list, this allows people to make the policy vote, it allows people to get away with voting without contributing anything to the discussion. Town doesn't benefit from easy lynches. Town benefits from difficult lynches in which people are forced to take a position. When there is an easy position and a hard position, that just invites mafia to come and pile up on one side. When there is no clear lynch target, mafia are forced to justify.

I don't even know what this means. How is killing you a policy vote? How is killing you forcing people to justify their actions? How does killing you do anything except for telling us whether we've killed the mafia in the kavwagon or not? You should think about it logically, it doesn't give the town anything. Also one more thing. I'm not looking for an "easy" or "hard" lynch. I'm looking for a dead scum. I don't think you're scum (insane? yes scum? not yet) and from what I can hear a lot of the people in the thread share my view. I want to kill KillerSOS. Why? Because I think he's SCUM.

You're not mafia (This would be the stupidest play in the history of mafia if you were) so why should I kill you?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 01:51 GMT

#1238

On May 21 2011 10:42 Incognito wrote:

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False. I don't trust the list check. I think someone was framed.

Are you on meth? Man why should we kill you then? If you think someone was framed and you think Chez is mafia then why should we kill you? If someone was framed then that means there is only one mafia in that group. You think Chez is mafia QED you aren't mafia why should we kill you?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 01:52 GMT

#1239

Ok I'm absolutely done talking about Incog for now. Mr. Wiggles where are you?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 02:33 GMT

#1251

ffs -_- I hope you know what you're doing wiggles

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 03:05 GMT

#1259

um ok... nice shooting wiggles...?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 03:22 GMT

#1271

Ok wiggles that looks solid. And it's not liked you killed a blue or a green

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 03:38 GMT

#1284

On May 21 2011 12:37 Ace wrote:
And I think if it's that simple then some of them are definite Scum. If KillerSOS gets lynched and doesn't flip Scum that will be the second day in a row the same thing happened.

Rather than making insinuations would you care to let everyone know who the scum are in this group?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 04:30 GMT

#1314

well that means we have two mafia, Chezinu and Incog

I'd be curious to hear Ace's master plan now.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 05:10 GMT

#1333

Ok since chez was bussed (don't see any other way for FW to die otherwise) does that mean we are back to square one on Incog? Ace are you still planning on shooting him tonight?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 05:15 GMT

#1335

I'm dreamflower yo (probably don't bear much resemblance

)

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 05:34 GMT

#1344

Oh hi Chezinu. Who do you think is scum? Who do you think is town? What do you think of Incog?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 06:31 GMT

#1354

Ok I'm going to bed. Placeholder post so I know where to start reading tomorrow.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 16:54 GMT

#1367

Radfield I'm glad we're thinking along the same lines. I believe your claim and the reasoning behind it. As for incog here's my thinking. I came into this game without having read the thread so I raced through it as fast as I could. I picked some easy reads (Radfield as town and Chez as scum) but I may have missed more subtle things that would have helped me make concrete calls on the more controversial players (Ace and Incog). As I am supposed to be dreamflower she was allowed to give me her top town and top scum. Her top town was Incog with a huge level of certainty. Her top scum was Ace with an equal level of certainty. Why am I saying this? Because with Incog's last post we started talking about parts of the game I only have a rough understanding of and we started talking about dreamflower. I'm going to have to reread the earlier parts but for now dreamflower's position will be mine. Keep in mind, dreamflower is actually pretty good, in one game she played she got killed night two as a mad hatter with bombs on two mafia, in another game she picked out two mafia and vigi'd one before she got killed. With this record I'm more than willing to support her suspcions.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 17:19 GMT

#1369

On May 22 2011 02:04 Kurumi wrote:

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You're claiming Mad Hatter?

No I'm not I'm merely pointing out dreamflowers different acomplishments to qualify her reads on Incog and Ace.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 21 2011 23:19 GMT

#1388

On May 22 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:

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Right, take the side of the guy pretending to be the village idiot. By the way, are you agreeing to protect GMarshal tonight or are you going to keep town in the dark and do your own thing like the last inventor?

W
Well Kita you did pop up three minutes after someone seconded a call against you so you have been reading the thread. Mind telling us why you haven't been posting? What do you think of Ace vs Incog/Radfield? Who do you think is scum? Why? Who do you think is town? Why?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 22 2011 05:56 GMT

#1444

Hey Ace! Gonna have to go with dreamflower here, she's 1/2 let's see if it's 2/2.

##Vote Ace.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 22 2011 05:57 GMT

#1445

Woops sorry we kill Caller first.

##Vote Caller

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 22 2011 08:08 GMT

#1453

It'll be interesting to see what it does. Marker post, night guys.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 22 2011 21:44 GMT

#1535

Ok so lots of stuff happening and almost all of it good for the town. Since we've been handed a scum I'll just get this out of the way real quick

##Vote tnkted

Now as for the rest of the mafia. Kita is one of them, I've been suspicious of him for a while now and the vote checks just helped confirm that. The rest of the mafia are in this pool of people.

Ace, Chaoser, Mr. Wiggles, Foolishness, or Eiii.

Out of these people I'm inclined to say the mafia is Ace, Chaoser, and Foolishness. Mr. Wiggles had an oppertunity to kill incog without much backlash when he had the king vote and he didn't. He's also played fairly townish (not screaming green like some but he's not acted overtly scummy). Eii I highly doubt is scum. He's been lynched as town for playing like this before lynching him feels like lynching KillerSOS. This leaves us with the scum team of Ace, Chaoser, and Foolishness. All of these players look really scummy. Ace is constantly tunneling Radfield. Why? Probably because he knows it's the only way mafia can kill Rad since Rad is BP. Ace also tunneled Incog to no end when Incog was a controversial person and therefore an easy target for a mafia railroad. Chaoser is a pretty easy one. Just look at a chaoser town game compared to this game and you'll see a marked difference in playstyles. Town Chaoser is helpful, does analysis, and generally contributes to a healthy town environment. Try and tell me he's done that this game. Foolishness is out of character as well. His whole exchange with Chezinu shows this. Rather than call out Chez for his blatant lie Foolishness sat back and neither confirmed nor denied it. I can't even conceive a reason why a townie wouldn't want to call out something they KNOW FOR A FACT is a lie. Also, look at town foolishness compared to this game's foolishness. Town foolishness is much like town Chaoser, contributive and helpful. This game's foolishness has hardly done a shred of analysis and is generally trying to keep a low profile.

I have some free time coming up and I plan to do a full analysis of Chaoser to prove my point. I'd also like to ask Bum or whoever did the Ace analysis to seriously go back over their own analysis and recheck their conclusions based on recent information.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 22 2011 22:01 GMT

#1541

On May 23 2011 06:52 kitaman27 wrote:

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I'm not sure what vote checking lists you are looking at, but I fail to see how the vote check helps confirm I am scum. Assuming tnkted is scum, there is 1 scum out of the 7 remaining. How does the vote check confirm your argument? In addition, assuming there have been no covers, only one of Ace, chaoser and Foolishness is mafia. Did you even read the vote checks?

Ok fuck I missunderstood the top list wiggles posted. Back to the drawing board on the grand scumlist although I still plan to do an analysis of Chaoser.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 22 2011 22:57 GMT

#1542

Alright yeah I completely blew that call there, now that I understand what the voting lists mean I'm almost 100% sure Chaoser is mafia. And Kita you are the scummiest person remaining on the killerSOS voting list once tnkted is removed so that's why I'm so sure you're scum (I will grant you that arguments can be made for Mr. Wiggles, Eii, and possibly Kurumi but I've already explained why I don't suspect Wiggles or Eiii, and Kurumi falls under the same example Eiii does.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 23 2011 00:14 GMT

#1552

That's a rather thoughtless thing to do Chaoser, and it doesn't really make me think you're not mafia. It actually smells a lot like tnkted's medic claim. But we have a much better lynch target so I'll hold off on you and see what happens tonight.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 23 2011 03:29 GMT

#1555

So like I said I'm going to hold off on Chaoser until next day cycle. However I'm worried that the fact we caught a scum so early is going to squash potential scum hunting and discussion that could go on. With that said what does everyone think about having a debate for tomorrow's lynch. Obviously things will change during the night but we've got 24 hours left in the day so I say we use it to discuss and scum hunt.

If it was tomorrow's lynch who would you kill and why? I still have really bad feelings about Ace so it would probably be him. He has tunneled two players, one who was crazy but not necessarily scummy, and another who 75 percent would probably agree is town. His arguments against them have been muddled and his overall attitude has been one of extreme apathy. I don't recall if he's ever properly analyzed someone beyond implying that "I'm Ace and I'm right."

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 23 2011 05:34 GMT

#1557

On May 23 2011 14:20 bumatlarge wrote:
Slow day I guess, no suprise

Which is frustrating because it's letting the scum lurk their little hearts out.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 23 2011 22:27 GMT

#1584

On May 24 2011 06:45 Kurumi wrote:
Infinitestory checked by parity cop,got king'd...
does that mean?
##Explode Infinitestory
FOR UNIDEN
DAYJ MADE ME DO IT

Please tell me you didn't just kill IS...

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 24 2011 05:55 GMT

#1632

On May 24 2011 10:56 Ace wrote:
bumatlarge is scum and I have proof

Gotta love Ace sometimes...

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 24 2011 19:58 GMT

#1657

On May 25 2011 03:29 Ace wrote:
tsk tsk, so much effort for so little gain.

So what's your strategy Ace? Is the mafia that confident they've already won?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 03:28 GMT

#1669

is it too early to start f5ing the thread?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 04:00 GMT

#1672

plzzzzz don't be late Ver....

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 04:11 GMT

#1674

On May 25 2011 13:04 bumatlarge wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226236

forgot about this

He can take his time lol

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 04:30 GMT

#1678

Yeah Caller is the vote now. I'd like to hear from our DTs the results of their checks, we may nail the entire scum team if we get lucky.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 05:08 GMT

#1706

Wait how do you figure Chaoser as scum foolishness?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 05:26 GMT

#1711

On May 25 2011 14:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Foolish are you the GF bro?

Was thinking the same thing tbh. It doesn't really matter though because once we kill Caller we'll be left with such a small pool of unconfirmeds that we can just process of elimination it out.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 15:17 GMT

#1734

Currently: 6-2
After lynch: 6-1
Mole(s) inducted: 5-2, 4-3 if there's more than that we auto lose
night kills: at best 4-2, 3-3 lylo if there are two moles
lynch: 4-1, 3-2, 3-2, 2-3
Night kills: 3-1, 2-2, 2-2 lylo if there's two moles and lylo if there's one and we misslynch
lynch: 3-0, 2-1, 2-1
Night kills: 1-1, 1-1
lynch: It'll depend who votes first I guess :/

This is assuming no more town night KP

That's our situation, we need to figure the moles out asap. We can probably assume that right now will be their most vulnerable moment, when they first get inducted into the mafia. I'm assuming a mole can be anyone so Radfeild your list of people not the mole doesn't really work.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 16:10 GMT

#1736

Oh ok I thought inducted meant they were only mafia now. With that in mind bum is definetly clear and probably Chaoser as well for revealing caller.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 25 2011 18:26 GMT

#1737

On May 25 2011 18:25 Eiii wrote:
##vote Caller

Hey Mr. Luker!

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 26 2011 01:48 GMT

#1747

The lack of discussion is killing us. Once Caller dies we literally have no plan.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 26 2011 02:34 GMT

#1751

@GM I think you should check one of the first day lists that has the most living people on it. If the check doesn't change then we just confirmed a bunch of people. If a new mafia shows up we've at least lowered the number of targets we have to work with. This is assuming the mole will retroactively show up. I think Chaoser should check Eiii. Eiii is one of our gf possibilities but he plays so scummy normally that it would be impossible to make a call. I don't really know what other roles we have. I don't know if we should massclaim yet. There may be a valuable town role still hidden.

As for scum I think it comes down between kita and foolishness.

Meapak_Ziphh

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May 26 2011 07:28 GMT

#1754

Ok foolishness this may seem pretty arbitrary but I now think kita is scummier than you. Just basing this off of activity and general helpfulnes over the last day. We need activity if we have any hope of winning so if you're a townie you should be posting right now and this is directed at everyone.

Meapak_Ziphh

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May 26 2011 20:53 GMT

#1772

Does GM's list check work retroactively? Would he be able to find a mole on a list from day one if he checks it tonight?

If we're gonna have GM use his power on earlier lists we might as well make sure it works

GM I think you should check the KillerSOS vote from day two. It has Eiii, me, Radfield, and Kita. I think we can all agree that Bum and Chaoser will be cleared barring Caller flipping town. Foolishness isn't checked using this list so Chaoser should check him. Am I leaving anyone out?

Meapak_Ziphh

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May 26 2011 23:40 GMT

#1776

On May 27 2011 08:28 Radfield wrote:
Either the KillerSOS list: Eiii, Meapak, Radfield, Kitaman

Or the Barundar Day 1 list: Radfield, Bumatlarge, Meapak, Kitaman

I think I like the second list better because Bum is mostly confirmed non-mole at this point, and will probably be targeted by the mafia/mole. That means we can narrow it a bit further right off the bat.

Mind you, GM isn't confirmed either, so any list check is somewhat suspect until he is cleared. On that note, it would be best for Chaoser to check GM and any protective roles to protect either Chaoser or GM(heavier emphasis on Chaoser). That leaves Bum on his own, but better that then lose our dt roles.

Wow Radfield was that your 1000? Gratz. Anyway I guess the list check is up to GM, I don't see why we would want to include Bum in it when he is pretty much confirmed but either way the list check will get you, me, and Kita who all need to be checked. The reason I favor the first list over the second list is because it gets Eiii as well. And yeah, medics really need to be on Chaoser.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 27 2011 06:11 GMT

#1791

Better just tackle the elephant in the room. Foolishness, kita and I are really the only unconfirmed people left at this point. The only thing I know is that I'm neither mole nor mafia so that leaves the other two. My gut says kita. There's really not much else to say. Foolishness you've played a subpar game then what I know you're capable of. However you've acted odd but never down right scummy. Kita on the other hand has acted fairly scummy and lurkerish throughout the portion of the game I've been in. I know kita knows what scummy behavior looks like so there's really no excuse. Tomorrow I have some free time and I'll do analysis of kita to solidify my point, after all I don't expect you all to take my word as a potential suspect without proof.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 27 2011 06:14 GMT

#1793

Oh and @Chaoser, rolechecks of the NRA member return vanilla.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 28 2011 06:20 GMT

#1812

I'll wait for GM to post before I talk about kita, my read is back to inconclusive and I'm a little suspicious of Eiii again. Could someone tell me exactly why Eiii is cleared?

Meapak_Ziphh

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May 28 2011 06:23 GMT

#1813

On May 28 2011 05:39 Foolishness wrote:
Assuming nothing strange happens, we should have 3 lynches to find the remaining member.

I just wanted to bring this to front as well. If we have too we can just carpet lynch kita foolishness and myself. Also, with their 1 KP, mafia can't kill Radfield at night so I think the town is gonna win this regardless of what happens.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 28 2011 20:48 GMT

#1842

I posted last night saying that I had doubts about kita being scum and I thought it might be Eiii instead. I'm on my itouch and don't have the doc so I'll try an condense my argument. Kita didn't have a suspicious switch when day three happened. He's played consistent throughout and while he may not have played the greatest he didn't have any indication of suspicious activity. Eiii on the otherhand has gone from lurking soft core to lurking hard core, he's barely been here in the last couple of days.

I also see foolishness is voting for me so I think it's time to claim. I am the meth man, and I breafcrumbed this way back when I was arguing with Incog. I'll get the post when I'm back on my computer but what this means is that mafia can't win. Assumig radfeild isn't the mole then theres no way for the mafia can kill us. The reason I haven't claimed sooner is because I've tried to get the mafia to hit me but I haven't been active enough I guess.

Anyway gonna vote Eiii

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 28 2011 20:49 GMT

#1843

Oh hi foolishness :D I see you call for me to claim while I'm writing this.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 28 2011 20:51 GMT

#1844

Town wins the game. Just leave radfeild and I alive. Eventually one of us will have to night kill the other if we are scum. He kills me he dies. I can't kill him. It's brilliant. Even if one of us is scum we can't kill eachother. GG mafia you guys tried.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 28 2011 20:55 GMT

#1847

Wait so if it's day and there's 1 mafia and one town left the mafia wins? The townie can't try and ninja vote the mafia?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 28 2011 21:14 GMT

#1849

Here's my breadcrumb

On May 21 2011 10:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

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Are you on meth? Man why should we kill you then? If you think someone was framed and you think Chez is mafia then why should we kill you? If someone was framed then that means there is only one mafia in that group. You think Chez is mafia QED you aren't mafia why should we kill you?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 28 2011 22:20 GMT

#1858

hey foolishness I think you should probably claim. Everyone else has.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 28 2011 23:30 GMT

#1865

Why do we believe Eiii's claim again?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:05 GMT

#1934

GM at this point no townie should be defending themselves like this. I know I told incog that a townie wanting to die is stupid but at this point all townies should be willing to die. Foolishness has called for my death several times and I'd be more than happy to do so in order to prove my alignment. These last few pages have convinced me.

sorry for being afk, I was at the movies -_-

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:19 GMT

#1943

Foolishness I think you should claim now. Everyone has claimed and if your role is that good then Kita can just protect you. Otherwise you really have nothing to hide and by not claiming you're starting to remind me of caller.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:26 GMT

#1949

On May 29 2011 12:23 GMarshal wrote:

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Do you want me to? Because I'm really confused...

Wait if GM knows then how is he scum?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:29 GMT

#1953

I'm unvoting GM. I came home and read through the thread once and made my decision but now that I've read through it again I've changed my mind.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:34 GMT

#1955

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:36 GMT

#1957

On May 29 2011 12:35 Foolishness wrote:
You're not really the methman are you?

Oh I am, I just need to flip town. Then if kita dies tonight town kills you. If kita lives town kills kita.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:42 GMT

#1961

On May 29 2011 12:37 GMarshal wrote:

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What? Why are we killing foolishness?

My bad, I meant Radfield. Foolishness is probably town since you didn't out him.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:48 GMT

#1964

On May 29 2011 12:45 Foolishness wrote:
Unfortunately I do not think it is best to kill you (meapak) today.

Why not? Kill me now and the town wins. We have enough votes, let's do it.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:51 GMT

#1966

On May 29 2011 12:49 GMarshal wrote:

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You are sure this wins us the game? 100%

If foolishness and bum are clear then yeah. Eiii will get modkilled and it'll be between radfeild and kita. If you are town vote me now.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 03:55 GMT

#1970

Then why would we kill me tomorrow foolishness? The mafia is not going to hit me, my usefulness as a town player is over. Once I die you'll have enough lynches to kill kita and Radfield with leisure. If we kill GM now we run out of lynches.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 04:00 GMT

#1974

Well this day is over. I think we fucked up pretty big time, WP if you actually are scum though GM.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 04:01 GMT

#1977

On May 29 2011 12:58 Foolishness wrote:

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Ahhhh that is where you are mistaken!

Alright I'll just let you take it from here foolishness.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 04:08 GMT

#1987

Holy fucking shit I feel like a dunce. WP GM gj town (no thanks to me lol). Did you actually have any idea what was going on foolishness or were you just faking?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 04:17 GMT

#1995

On May 29 2011 13:13 Foolishness wrote:

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Yes, both you and kitman acted precisely how I predicted if you were both town.

The one thing we had was our deaths and our willingness to die lol.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 05:11 GMT

#2007

On the activity levels: having a game that is so overwhelmingly veteran helped a lot. Pretty much everyone in this game knew how to play (and play well at that). The spammyness of other games was avoided because everyone kept things concise and neat. Personally I would love for all games to be like this.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 18:05 GMT

#2050

Boy Ace someone sure is pissed about the outcome of this game eh?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 29 2011 18:58 GMT

#2054

I should have quoted it and forced people to remember it, kinda let you down there dreamflower

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

May 30 2011 06:35 GMT

#2063

On May 25 2011 10:07 bumatlarge wrote:

Bum was having his usual identity crysis, which isn't a far cry from his call of duty for tonight. Rest assured, there was no halo above his head.

Are you an FPS player bum?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6785 Posts

June 13 2011 05:15 GMT

#2079

On June 13 2011 11:27 Ver wrote:
ok fine ill finish this in a jiffy.

dunno if I should post the ratings though lol.

yes yes ratings plz!!!

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