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On May 25 2011 17:29 bumatlarge wrote:
And I used KP, so I couldn't be GF, and there is additionally uncounted for KP. Is chaoser a vig/GF? I don't see that role listed here.
regarding that:
Vigilante
You have the ability to kill up to two people of your choice at any night phase in the game. You cannot use both at once and may wait to use them whenever you feel like. If your hits ever overlap with a mafia hit I will cancel it and notify you the following day and you will be able to use it again. If your hit overlaps with another Vigilante I will cancel all other hits but the first one and will notify anyone who's hit didn't go through the following day and you will be able to use it again. You will not be told if it was mafia or murderer that caused your hit to be canceled.
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I'm not following, I don't believe someone did get their hits stacked.
Perhaps you should claim caller.
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Also, wiggles was NKVD, and said to look at his posts for clues. Most notably L.A.T. Not exatly sure what that means.
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United States2566 Posts
Caller is clearly scum, he's got my vote.
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United States22154 Posts
Sorry Caller, but you have a DT check proving you red. And a condemning list. I see no way you could be town. The only thing that confuses me is how the hell you could be vanilla. Unless you tried for inventor or something.
##Vote: Caller
Now would be a good time to claim.
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United States22154 Posts
Also, whats up with the unaccounted for KP? Do we have a vigi or something, I mean I know Bum killed Ace, and the mafia killed someone, but that leaves one kill hanging. Do we have a vigilante? Or is the mafia mole a vigilante or other kp role?
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 25 2011 19:53 GMarshal wrote:
Sorry Caller, but you have a DT check proving you red. And a condemning list. I see no way you could be town. The only thing that confuses me is how the hell you could be vanilla. Unless you tried for inventor or something.
##Vote: Caller
Now would be a good time to claim.
Did you make a check last night?
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 25 2011 15:00 bumatlarge wrote:
Caller
Radfield - town
GMarshal - town
Foolishness
bumatlarge - town
Chaoser - town
Eiii - town
meapak - town
kitaman27
What I think, the other two scum are among the 3 others. If anyone has information, now is the time!
You are playing this wrong Bum. There is only 1 scum out of the three others + 1 mole who could be anyone. A new game started at the beginning of Day 3, and no one is confirmed non-mole unless you're basing it off their post-Day 3 activities and posts.
If Caller is vanilla mafia all the list checks make sense, and there is no GF in the game. This seems by far the most likely scenario. I highly doubt that Caller was 'framed' as it would be strange to make him a 'vanilla' mafia(though it does make sense that Caller may have gone after Inventor).
With Decon dying and flipping vanilla townie, we can confirm that I did indeed take Bulletproof. My alignment may still be in question, but my role is not.
If Caller is indeed vanilla mafia then whomever the mole is has a KP role(unless a townie makes a claim on Decon or Wiggles). This means that players with a confirmed non-kp role are not the mole.
Players with a semi-confirmed or confirmed role:
Radfield - Bulletproof
GMarshal - M2DT
Chaoser - Modern Detective (will be confirmed after callers flip)
Bumatlarge - Bad Santa
This means the mole is among these players:
Kitaman27
Meapak_Ziphh
Eiii
Foolishness
Caller
I think caller is almost certainly the other scum. Please role claim though Caller. If not caller then foolishness is next.
GMarshal, what were your role or list check results?
Scum team:
Ace
Tnkted
Chezinu
Kurumi
Caller
That looks fairly right.
Whomever the role cop is should claim, and should reveal last nights actions. The more roles we can confirm the better the hunt for the mole will go.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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United States22154 Posts
On May 25 2011 20:26 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 19:53 GMarshal wrote:
Sorry Caller, but you have a DT check proving you red. And a condemning list. I see no way you could be town. The only thing that confuses me is how the hell you could be vanilla. Unless you tried for inventor or something.
##Vote: Caller
Now would be a good time to claim. Did you make a check last night?
I rolechecked foolishness, I'm saving the last list check for todays vote.
I'm not going to reveal what he returned, only that the remaining mafia should probably worry.
(Or maybe I'm playing mindgames, who knows! ^_^)
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GL guys, keep going for the win 
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Oh here's an idea, wiggles checked the NRA member? That would explain why it triggered, and it would be a likely pick for town. Still don't know what LAT, the initials hes been putting in his posts, refer to. So maybe everyone should announce their checks just before night ends, so we may get somewhere. they would have to say it last second though, so mafia cant mess with the process. Righty?
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United States22154 Posts
On May 25 2011 22:46 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh here's an idea, wiggles checked the NRA member? That would explain why it triggered, and it would be a likely pick for town. Still don't know what LAT, the initials hes been putting in his posts, refer to. So maybe everyone should announce their checks just before night ends, so we may get somewhere. they would have to say it last second though, so mafia cant mess with the process. Righty?
My guess is last and third word of every sentence, but I haven't gotten anywhere with that.
Your NRA theory is interesting, my only concern is that a townie would do better to take methman than NRA member, as the NRA member makes punishes detectives as well as mafia.
Should we encourage this person to claim? Or do we want mafia to run afoul of his rifle? Also, why are you discarding the possibility of a mafia vigilante? I think that would be a role mafia would not mind picking up, especially considering the fact that they have a piddling one kp.
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Currently: 6-2
After lynch: 6-1
Mole(s) inducted: 5-2, 4-3 if there's more than that we auto lose
night kills: at best 4-2, 3-3 lylo if there are two moles
lynch: 4-1, 3-2, 3-2, 2-3
Night kills: 3-1, 2-2, 2-2 lylo if there's two moles and lylo if there's one and we misslynch
lynch: 3-0, 2-1, 2-1
Night kills: 1-1, 1-1
lynch: It'll depend who votes first I guess :/
This is assuming no more town night KP
That's our situation, we need to figure the moles out asap. We can probably assume that right now will be their most vulnerable moment, when they first get inducted into the mafia. I'm assuming a mole can be anyone so Radfeild your list of people not the mole doesn't really work.
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United States22154 Posts
On May 04 2011 03:27 Ver wrote:
Mole:
You are a townie...wait a minute. Initially given a normal townie role, but mafia is given his identity. After Night 2 ends, the mole receives his “Mole” role and mafia list. Mafia cannot PM him and he cannot PM mafia until he is formally inducted (day 3). There may be any number of moles.
Mepak, moles were induced yesterday, not today.
But you have a point, my past lists are rendered unreliable, and we can only judge actions that took place *after* the end of night 2 to judge people, as any previous town behavior might be due to the insidious nature of the mole. I'm pretty sure that the only clear townie at the moment is bum for having shot Ace, which he would not have done were he mafia. The rest of us must be judged on our behavior over the past day and night.
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Oh ok I thought inducted meant they were only mafia now. With that in mind bum is definetly clear and probably Chaoser as well for revealing caller.
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On May 25 2011 18:25 Eiii wrote:
##vote Caller
Hey Mr. Luker!
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United States2566 Posts
Hey! I popped in last night when I cast that vote, it's not part of some underground conspiracy or anything. What's up?
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Ace could have shot someone last night correct? That would explain the missing KP.
On May 25 2011 20:28 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 20:26 kitaman27 wrote:On May 25 2011 19:53 GMarshal wrote:
Sorry Caller, but you have a DT check proving you red. And a condemning list. I see no way you could be town. The only thing that confuses me is how the hell you could be vanilla. Unless you tried for inventor or something.
##Vote: Caller
Now would be a good time to claim. Did you make a check last night? I rolechecked foolishness, I'm saving the last list check for todays vote. I'm not going to reveal what he returned, only that the remaining mafia should probably worry. (Or maybe I'm playing mindgames, who knows! ^_^)
Someone yesterday said that the list checks confirmed me as innocent. Personally I don't quite see it but if someone figures it out they should say so.
Assuming Caller is innocent, we just kill chaoser tomorrow. If Caller is clean then chaoser/bum are most likely the mafia duo.
Also, GMarshal can check a list again and if the mole was on it originally they will show up as mafia now. For example the Barundar list from day 1 might be good, which has bum, Radfield, dreamflower (meapak) and kitaman. That could confirm one of these 4 as the remaining mafia, or potentially clear them all.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
What I mean is Ace might have lied about killing Incognito.
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