Oh here's an idea, wiggles checked the NRA member? That would explain why it triggered, and it would be a likely pick for town. Still don't know what LAT, the initials hes been putting in his posts, refer to. So maybe everyone should announce their checks just before night ends, so we may get somewhere. they would have to say it last second though, so mafia cant mess with the process. Righty?

bumatlarge

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May 26 2011 01:51 GMT

#1748

Well can we work our way from the ground up? Mafia knows the mole the entire game. The mole on the other hand is pretty much in the dark til day 3, and at that point, he would probably regard himself as an independent. I really don't know where to start looking. Will he show up as mafia to alignment checks?

bumatlarge

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May 26 2011 02:32 GMT

#1750

Does the mole show up as red on lists now, regardless of the day? If not, then perhaps the current one to check exactly how many we are dealing with? If they do show up as scum on earlier lists, then perhaps one where it was just one individual or two on a list.

bumatlarge

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May 26 2011 08:53 GMT

#1755

I was torn between shooting ace and kita, but ace being ousted would solve a lot more problems. That's why earlier I wasn't saying confirmed town rad, I was saying who I thought the remainging scum would be between.

Foolishness is obvious because of his connections with ace and what not, but I wouldn't say he has been scummy. Kita has been mostly a nonfactor this game, totally lurkish. Maybe I just haven't been paying close attention, but he seems like a good mole candidate.

bumatlarge

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May 27 2011 06:13 GMT

#1792

NRA Member

You shoot anyone and anything that pokes its head out at you. The first person that tries to visit you each day and night gets killed at the end of the cycle and their action on you does not occur. Listchecks do not count, but everything else does. Role checks will reveal you as vanilla. The suicide bomber overrides your redneck defense.

I think I pointed this out? Anyways, of the 8 of us left, 1 is the mole presumably, and I think it would be a little unfair to have more then one, since I think 8+/25 red even if they dont know each other with a possible traitor in the set-up is too much. I don't think anyone gave word on the traitor, so I guess until people come forward with other facts, we can ignore that. I think now it's just one mole? So I would suggest alignment checking now, since it is rare that he is the GF. Still very confused on the votecheck lists, since I see no framer/GF and the lists don't seem to add up properly? Maybe they do with a mole... Hm. Yeah 5 mafia make sense. GM use the votechecker on one of the lists radfield gave you. Basically getting a check on any list that doesn't include myself or chaoser, and has half the players, gives us a win.

KillerSOS Day2. That basically narrows it down to where it is a guarenteed win. GM will probably get shot.

bumatlarge

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May 27 2011 06:16 GMT

#1794

Oh radfield already included it in his thoughts, I should probably read his posts better -_-

Have to agree, kita has just been suspicious, but I think more so after night 2 then earlier. That does seem odd. Either way, GM is going to die, because if killerSOS pops a different number, kita is scum IMO, and if it doesnt foolishness is. That means I dont get shot, yay, and chaoser can check kita, and Eii can check foolishness' role.

bumatlarge

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May 28 2011 04:45 GMT

#1808

Poor chaoser, we'll win it for you. GM, when you get around to it, give the results. Assuming there is only one left, they sure are dragging this out, so they must think they at least have a shot. I'm not sure if it's right to think like that, but I can't help it. I think foolishness would have too much dignity to not bite the bullet in his position if he was scum.

Or they just want to play it out.

bumatlarge

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May 28 2011 16:43 GMT

#1818

Well, in that case, dreamflower did attack ace head on and called him scum. Meapak isn't scum unless hes a mole.

bumatlarge

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May 28 2011 18:40 GMT

#1826

On May 29 2011 03:14 Foolishness wrote:
Going to vote meapak; still not convinced we even have a mole.

I'd think the only way meapak would be scum is if he was the mole. Dreamflower was the one who made that analysis on Ace. You could go back and check it for clues, but she did call him scum.

bumatlarge

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May 28 2011 21:30 GMT

#1850

haha nice, guess I'll put my vote on Eiii.

bumatlarge

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May 29 2011 02:52 GMT

#1927

See, this mole thing is so fickle. I'm just going to do whatever foolishness is doing. When it is just 1 scum left, and the whole town is revealed, it doesn't leave much of an opening for us to "figure it out" really, unless we tried to go by what dead scum's relation to the remaining players is, which can eventually get into WIFOM, (especially using Ace as a means of defending yourself Rad, sorry I can't stand behind that after I made an abysmal counter-analysis on him)

This end game more or less leads us into "we will probably win" not we will win if we are a good town. We have to rely on a little bit of luck and our instincts. I'll read back on what Ace said about you rad, and I really think you wouldn't be a mole over GM, but I know jack shit.

Eiii has become a pointless lynch, because I think the mole has to be GM or Rad, maybe kitaman. Hopefully that isn't a by product of two townies arguing with one another. Since GM's power is virtually useless now, and killing him does confirm the list, I don't see much reason not to. Lynching rad would be abysmal, because we haven't gotten enough meat to convict him, and lynching a BP at this point would be horrendous. Good luck kita, hopefully you get shot, or you manage to get a protect off tomorrow, either will lead us to a near certain win.

And my apologies to GM, but you gave me permission!

##Vote GMarshal

bumatlarge

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May 29 2011 03:07 GMT

#1935

On May 29 2011 12:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
GM at this point no townie should be defending themselves like this. I know I told incog that a townie wanting to die is stupid but at this point all townies should be willing to die. Foolishness has called for my death several times and I'd be more than happy to do so in order to prove my alignment. These last few pages have convinced me.

sorry for being afk, I was at the movies -_-

I dont understand, are you complimenting him or berating him?

bumatlarge

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May 29 2011 03:18 GMT

#1940

On May 29 2011 12:11 Foolishness wrote:
I want someone who is town to go through the game and find all the cases where a known mafia (now dead) talked about one of the remaining 4 people on the list. Ignore all the cases between Radfield and Ace (but if any of the other mafia talked about Radfield please list them).

ugh you're refering to me aren't you? Tried it got really bored, but I'll do it again tomorrow. I don't think I'll make it to see the flop on whoever it is (i dont really care, its not like we are looking for scum influence), as I am dead tired. Good sweet prince, whoever you are.

bumatlarge

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May 29 2011 03:19 GMT

#1942

Look how tired I am, I forgot the "night" in the above phrase lol...

bumatlarge

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May 29 2011 03:20 GMT

#1944

On May 29 2011 12:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Foolishness I think you should claim now. Everyone has claimed and if your role is that good then Kita can just protect you. Otherwise you really have nothing to hide and by not claiming you're starting to remind me of caller.

Why should he claim? Perhaps we don't benefit from kita protecting him. Keep it a secret if you think you need to. He's town, you might not be.

bumatlarge

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May 29 2011 09:46 GMT

#2033

Glad I did my part. Good job town, that last part felt uncomfortably drawn out.

bumatlarge

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May 29 2011 13:37 GMT

#2038

Agree with most of the stuff Ace, but Kav's thing was ridiculous. People called him out for being too pro-town. Nothing else. If you look back, everyone called him out for trying too hard, or some other shit. Again not Kav's fault, it was bad town's fault. I agree town was bad, we were doing awful first 2 days and won with power roles.