EPTIncognito you post that we have a lot of information now, and that we should read over the thread tomorrow. What about we read over the thread now, and actually decide on the targets that has something on them? I don't see the point of just being content with the current situation, that really only favors scum.
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Incognito you post that we have a lot of information now, and that we should read over the thread tomorrow. What about we read over the thread now, and actually decide on the targets that has something on them? I don't see the point of just being content with the current situation, that really only favors scum. | ||
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He doesn't say anything of value This annoy me bum, no need to downplay my points. If you disagree fine, but then disagree with what I'm saying, don't try to belittle me. | ||
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My argument against lynching Scamp is also based on the risk of the copy cat. People say there is no copy cat because scum has better options, but there has been a scum copy cat in the other PYP's, so I think it's a valid concern. For that reason I consider it risky to lynching in to the top, it can in my opinion wait until tomorrow. But I am obviously biased here, so feel free to have another opinion. I'm fine with you pressuring people that are not participating Kurumi, in fact I consider it pretty pro town by you. But I encourage you to change your vote to a vote that matters for the lynch, in case your pressure doesn't convince the town, and pick it up again afterwards. The problem as I see it is that at the moment the votes are everywhere, effectively negating any pressure on any of the targets. | ||
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4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. I'm probably going to vote incognito, Ace makes the most sense to me. Got an hour before bed to see if anything changes. | ||
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I have problems explaining his actual scum hunting so far. Loads of finger pointing and weak reasons for votes. For an example his vote on chaoser: Bumatlarge is also on the right track. Chaoser is a good vote too. Actually, wait, a better vote than Kurumi. I'll put Chaoser as 85% mafia. ##Vote Chaoser Why does he think chaoser is 85 % mafia? Thats very high degree of certainty day 1. Since then he doesn't mention chaoser or try to convince others of his guilt. Same with Kurumi and GMarshal: + Show Spoiler + On May 16 2011 14:20 Incognito wrote: Flamewheel please nuke GMarshal. Thanks. ##Vote Kurumi My biggest issue with voting incognito is 1) He is a vet, so if town it would be a huge loss. 2) He provides pro town ideas, like the listchecker + vote rigger idea, as well as info on roles. His play before the day post was still riddled with random accusations, but his role ideas was good. He claims he is playing weird because he doesn't have time to play a proper day 1, but I don't buy that. He has been reasonably active in the thread, and he is obviously reading it. I guess my question to Foolishness and Ace is, how do you explain his contributions with regards to roles if he is mafia? | ||
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On May 18 2011 07:53 bumatlarge wrote: Is 100% a high degree of certainty barundar? I seem to get that a lot. Excuse me? Throwing out a random degree of certainty without any reasoning doesn't seem suspicious to you? | ||
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Do people disagree with this assessment. Is there more to Barundars play than good general advice and pro-town words? What am I missing here? I'd ague that it is pretty pro town to limit the suspects, as is finaly happening. Yes I haven't thrown out random accusations, as the rest of the town has been so happy to, because I couldn't see the reason to. I have my suspects, and I will bring them up after today, but I see no reason to bring forward more suspects at this point. If you think I'm not capable of doing like any other here and throw random accusations as town, you are severely under estimating me. I am not a newbie at this game, despite not having played with you before, and I'm smart enough to just follow suit with the rest of the town and throw accusations as scum. However, instead I called attention upon myself for arguing against it, which is quite the opposite of what any reasonable mafia player would do. You are looking too hard for something that isn't there. | ||
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Please don't screw the vote list up with vote rigging. To the townies voting for me (I'm looking at you bum), I hope you shape up after this!  My reads for day 0+1 was: Mafia: Incognito (obv) one of dreamflower/kitaman - lurk all day-->weak reason to vote me KillerSOS - clearly watching thread without writing, dooms me without even posting. OriginalName - surfing modkill tresshold, reading thread but placeholder vote. I didn't find Radfield to be mafia, traitor at worst. Take my reads with a grain of salt, its day 1 after all. In general I don't think mafia was very active day 1. Town did the work for them by throwing around mass accusations. The town had a serious case of everyone thinking they where smarter than everyone else. Sometimes playing town is not about accusations, but about picking the right persons to listen to. All mafia had to do was lay low. GL everyone~ | ||
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Ye I care that much | ||
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On May 18 2011 12:36 Incognito wrote: So mafia wasn't active day 1, yet I'm mafia? Would you say I was inactive? I'd say that I am the most visible player in the thread, but of course I could be wrong. Not until you got under pressure no. You disagree? | ||
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Even before I was supposedly "pressured", I haven't been trying to hide. I mean, if you look at my post times you'll see that my explanation that I was out of town actually does make sense. And like I've said before, I invite people to scrutinize me, since I know I'm town. Even if you don't like my playstyle, I'd still say that I've been the most controversial player here, even before I was supposedly "pressured". I'm just curious that you think I wasn't "active" earlier and that apparently I'm not noticed until now. You keep talking about your playstyle and whether people like it :/. I didn't vote you for your playstyle, I voted you for your lack of reasons. You have only started doing analysis and reasons after you got a head in vote. And from your previous observation that mafia was content having 10 lynch targets, I'd say that if I was mafia, I'd be content to sit out on the sidelines and watch someone else get lynched, no? You seemed quite content until you actually got a head... | ||
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Alignment Checks: These are the people I find somewhat suspicious, or who it would be nice to have an alignment check on. Barundar Node Tnkted Incognito Radfield Ace I'd add suspicious votes to the list and remove node and tnkted. From the 3 different band wagons, these are the 3 people I am most suspicious of: GMarshal: does a complete turn around from: none of the lynches are good -->Kavdragon KillerSOS: vote in the vote thread, but no explanation in thread. Complaints about Kav mislynch but have been completely silent up until that point. Definition of reading thread without posting. Chaoser: Votes incog without much explanation. Only reason for mafia to come out in numbers for this lynch would be if incognito is mafia. Kav flipped green and I'm green as well. Meaning if incognito is also green, the majority of mafia would have no reason to involve themselves in the lynch. In that case I would be looking the most at people with placeholder votes (only 1 vote): Kurumi Eiii Mr.Wiggles Scamp OriginalName Eiii seemed way too active during the lynch to define his vote as a placeholder. Kurumi is most likely sleeping, and did a decent analysis on me. So of those 3, Wiggles, Scamp and OriginalName stand out the most to me. | ||
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I guess from this I have to infer that Barundar is probably town. The problem is that at this point every time I read his posts my eyes mist over red, so I'm going to have to let other players be the judge of him moving forward. I was looking forward to hearing from you when I flipped! In all seriousness I pretty much ignored your analysis as stupid and went to bed fed up. But if you have questions for me I'll try and answer as well as I can. | ||
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My tentative posting boils down to having to choice between a bunch of lynches, none of which I could say I felt completely good about. | ||
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On May 19 2011 14:41 chaoser wrote: For now I think we need to focus on the people we were focusing on yesterday, that being Incognito and Barundar. If it comes to it, we can ask for the double lynch and then deal with it when it comes. I'd love to hear your suspects and why, not just general finger pointing. Mafia will probably have the inventor by now. Even if they chose Thief over Copy Cat, they would most likely steal role from Scamp before killing him. | ||
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Politician As a person used to getting your way by any means necessary you may PM me during the day to buy a player's vote(...) Also, if you buy the King's vote, you will have his lynch as well. At this point KillerSOS have still not given an opinion on anyone in the thread, and he avoided the thread when he voted yesterday. In the other game he posted way more day 1, as vigilante. As such he would be a good choice for a forced day vig. | ||
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