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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 15 2011 04:55 GMT
#361
[2][2]
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
May 15 2011 05:03 GMT
#362
I can replace people who haven't sent numbers, as I just died out of XXXIX.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 05:04 GMT
#363
To recap what others have said (and make sure we're agreeing on this):

Top picks go for the imba roles, such as inventor.
High picks go for investigative roles
Middle picks go for protection
Low picks go for protection / random situational roles (just avoid the clearly mafia roles, of course)
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 15 2011 05:07 GMT
#364
I took [6][7]
:3
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 06:05 GMT
#365
Wonder how many people won't get one.

Hard to guess what people will take before me
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 15 2011 06:21 GMT
#366
i picked 10-4.
guess why.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 06:37 GMT
#367
On May 14 2011 10:28 KillerSOS wrote:
Well I'm going with two mid range numbers.

Dare you to guess them.


On May 15 2011 13:53 KillerSOS wrote:
I went with [5] [11]


just fyi, i don't think 5 is midrange
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 15 2011 06:39 GMT
#368
I'll make this as general as possible. We want to hide what we will take as best we can, while still distributing as many roles as possible. So I will cut up the draft into large sections and suggest what people in those roles should take. First the big no-nos.
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NRA Member
Hero
Bomber Man
Rock Star
Emperor
Janitor
Vengeful player
America
Kingmaker
Zombie
Admiral Ackbar
Pardoner
Cupid
Prince of Darkness
Suicide Bomber
Politician
Agent of Chaos
Roleblocker
Role Reverser
Framer
Copy Cat
Caller Godfather
Mafia XII Godfather
Bone Breaker
Puppeteer
Hooker
Traitors


Imba/self protection
1. Flamewheel
2. Scamp
3. Caller
4. Barundar
5. Radfield
6. GMarshal
7. Deconduo
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Inventor*
Chuiu Jack
Bad Santa*
Vote Rigger*
CPR Doctor*
Thief*
Assassin
Capitalist
Caller Veteran
Mafia 4 Veteran
Mad Hatter
Mafia 4 Hatter
Meth Man
Bullet Proof
( * = should probably claim soon or at some point to help KP analyzing


Mafia hunting
8. Foolishness
9. bumatlarge
10. Kavdragon
11. Chaoser
12. Fishball
13. KillerSOS
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Chuiu Jack
Mafia 2 Detective
Capitalist
NKVD Agent
Alignment Cop
Modern Detective
Role Cop
Bullet Bill
PYP Watcher
PYP Tracker
Parity Cop
Dirty cop


Vig/Misc
14. Eiii
15. Infinitestory
16. Dreamflower
17. Mr.Wiggles
18. Original Name
19. tnkted
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Anything you think would help town, or anything that isn't on the no-no list or on the list below this. Good spot to take a standard vig/mad hatter roles of sorts.


Protective/Defensive/Misc
20. Chezinu
21. Ace
22. Kurumi
23. Incognito
24. Node
25. kitaman27
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Priest
Medic
Doctor
Witch
Bodyguard
First targets would be who you think is most helpful town, then Id say the power or DT roles.


Obviously this shouldn't be taken as canon. It's just to make as little overlap as possible. Mafia are already going to chance some of the no-no roles. Any improvement or suggestions and I'll edit it. The only thing I will not change is how unspecific it is.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 15 2011 06:48 GMT
#369
Called [5][3].
Apparently [7] is the lucky number.
靈魂交響曲
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 06:50 GMT
#370
Many vig/bomber-type roles are on that no-no list ,_,

For my group of people, try to draw from things like:

Vig
Mad Hatter
Zombie is on the no-no list, but I personally think it can be valuable for town since the KP happens the night after death (i.e. there's time for discussion over who to use it on)
Mafia 4 Hatter (I haven't seen this before, is it more pro-town or pro-mafia?)
Copy Cat
Day Vig
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 06:55 GMT
#371
EBWOP: Copy Cat was on the list, but I personally think it's got value to the town (and actually can a blue role in case the Day 1 lynch goes badly or gets nullified). Pick with discretion.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 06:55 GMT
#372
goddamnit

can save* a blue role
Translator:3
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 15 2011 07:57 GMT
#373
[13] [1]

I'm in the line of fire again... god dammit.
Bartundar
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 15 2011 08:03 GMT
#374
On May 15 2011 16:57 Barundar wrote:
[13] [1]

I'm in the line of fire again... god dammit.



I like how 13 was near the top. Interesting.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 15 2011 08:05 GMT
#375
Change up the no-no list then I just blatantly ripped it from radfield
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 15 2011 08:40 GMT
#376
updated list:

1. Flamewheel
2. Scamp [7][11]
3. Caller [10][4]
4. Barundar [13][1]
5. Radfield
6. GMarshal [17][2]
7. Deconduo
8. Foolishness [1][x]
9. bumatlarge [1][18]
10. Kavdragon [2][1]
11. Chaoser [2][2]
12. Fishball [5][3]
13. KillerSOS [5][11]
14. Eiii [6][7]
15. Infinitestory [6][10]
16. Dreamflower [4][1]
17. Mr.Wiggles [4][x]
18. Original Name[4][6]
19. tnkted [4][12]
20. Chezinu
21. Ace [9][11]
22. Kurumi [9][x]
23. Incognito[9][x]
24. Node [9][1]
25. kitaman27 [9][1]
Bartundar
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 15 2011 08:52 GMT
#377
Jimbo suggested having 6 of the best town roles in the top 6 picks, although I would've added another slot for another medic pick. This plan deals with three problems in a plan where the controlled roles are in the top. First, it takes advantage of the fact that mafia is likely to get a pick in the top, but is unlikely to get multiple top slots. Thus, the plan allows town to maximize their picks of good pro-town roles. Secondly, the addition of two great defensive roles and a medic alongside parity cop, BB, and JOAT ensure that mafia can't just snipe the top of the list. Thirdly, moving the "controlled" list to the middle of the list hurts mafia because that's where the mafia are most likely to be concentrated. It also denies mafia further down the list the use of these dangerous roles.


Can't we just use Jimbo's plan again?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 15 2011 09:06 GMT
#378
On May 15 2011 17:52 chaoser wrote:
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Jimbo suggested having 6 of the best town roles in the top 6 picks, although I would've added another slot for another medic pick. This plan deals with three problems in a plan where the controlled roles are in the top. First, it takes advantage of the fact that mafia is likely to get a pick in the top, but is unlikely to get multiple top slots. Thus, the plan allows town to maximize their picks of good pro-town roles. Secondly, the addition of two great defensive roles and a medic alongside parity cop, BB, and JOAT ensure that mafia can't just snipe the top of the list. Thirdly, moving the "controlled" list to the middle of the list hurts mafia because that's where the mafia are most likely to be concentrated. It also denies mafia further down the list the use of these dangerous roles.


Can't we just use Jimbo's plan again?

Why do you suggest that after roles has been picked? I'm against any plan that aim's to control town roles instead of mafia roles.
Bartundar
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 15 2011 09:14 GMT
#379
Roles haven't been picked yet?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176529&currentpage=84#1665

night
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 15 2011 09:27 GMT
#380
On May 15 2011 18:14 chaoser wrote:
Roles haven't been picked yet?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176529&currentpage=84#1665

night

Pick order is solved. You should have brought new role pick propositions up before hand, because now there is an inherent risk of any proposition to be mafia influenced.
Bartundar
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