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On May 02 2011 08:41 Forumite wrote: Starting right now is a bad idea, we have several players from the Sleeper Cell game here, and that one is still going for a few days more. Well You need to post only 1 per day/night + 1 vote post... Don't think it is a big deal. | ||
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the only thing I saw was CHAOS. Saying that,while someone says this,posting some rules being in the other thread,just doing a contribution without any value | ||
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He will be probably shot this night because he is good at Mafia and is staying really pro-town. It is good to see some lurkers waking up! | ||
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Sandroba tries to play the Town Hero,he "has" the sense! Chaos13 does not know what is going on anymore. | ||
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Funny how he and chaos have 13 in the end of their nicknames. | ||
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I did not vote because of coincidence,I just saw it. When I stared my third post I knew that it will go wrong and I will be accused of scum. Bringing more chaos into Day 1 than there was wasn't my intention. | ||
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I wasn't too cautious,right,but even insane thought can turn out to be true. I have no idea how to reply. | ||
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Thanks for pointing out that I am fearful of using names,thus making my posts inconsistent,weird and often misunderstood. Which posts should I "repair" - that meaning making it totally straight and understandable? | ||
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3 My point is,Mafia itself would rather not start the discussion(unless it was questions helping them 2 out,like "How do You deal with Mafia claims" "What usually gives out Your identity" etc) 2 The thing that Chaoser and redtooth posted was just a mini-guide how not to fail horribly at Mafia. 13 Still it could be a smoke bomb. | ||
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I tried to make something happen and yeah I did,but it turned out talking about me is interesting. | ||
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Just a post. | ||
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"A dead Townie is a good Townie" I like Your style,as Cave Johnson said! | ||
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They're just to cast more suspicion on me,like hey! Random numbers MUST be something! No. I just felt like typing them. My type of posting might be connected to English being my second language (the biggest thing is repeating names which I am not comfortable with,where in Polish I need to find 2347234 possibilities to avoid typing the same thing in one,even two sentences.) It was wrong to assume my thought process will apply to everyone and I understand that mistake. Just to put some emphasis: 13 2 6 3 2 2 13 is nothing,but I might get some link if You want to make them mystical,You know. | ||
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On May 05 2011 04:34 ilovejonn wrote: I don't think you should kid about lynches. Our votes are very valuable and it's basically our only way of killing scum. Shh,he won't allow You on the EXCUSE boat. | ||
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Giving away Your biggest weakness might be Your biggest strenght. | ||
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Grammar,the horror! | ||
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Kurumi used Excuse! Kurumi has some Excuses left! Excuse:This will be my first time doing a small analysis,so please don't beat me and lay down Your stones,pickaxes,guns or whatever You just picked up. Thanks. My thoughts on: Chaos13 Points out my weird style of posting,numbers and thinks it is huge scum tell. He is thinking on his own rails,probably not trying to doom us all. Sandroba Hero of our city! Scumhunts every post and every post he has new scum tell,amazing how he does it. Together with Chaos13 is picking on my posting. Irish_Punk13 Got on my rails or at least tries to understand what I try to tell. Points out AirbladeOrange suspicious behavior. Supposedly works for town. AirbladeOrange Wants me dead. Because dead townie is best townie,right? Since I have no contribution value I am worthless. Looks like that is not what he meant actually. Dead townie has no vote privilege! The less votes are available for town,the better for the scum! Suspicious,might be scum. Chaoser Very careful,does not like me hugging him. This is both-side reaction. Though because it is Day1 and his biggest contribution was the hint post I believe I can't decide who he is. KillerSOS Plays for fun,enjoys the game. Agreeds with the Irish_Punk13. ilovejonn Is as careful as Chaoser,has good idea who should be looked at. Kenpachi Has got this. I mean,the backup plan of course. Is onto something obviously. Overall,most of people are trying to hop on me,or AirbladeOrange for his bluff about dead townies. I know this is not SO helpful analysis that You'd hoped for,but look at top of the post. No. Don't pick up those. Please? It is about my excuse. Many of You already used them,some multiple amount of times,but I have no time to pick on it. I believe I will have time to post tomorrow after school (day ends 5:00 KST,right?) | ||
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My mistakes and weird play created a bandwagon which is such an easy way for scum to push lynch. That's ok. About my hyperactive posting: I was really pumped out for my first Mafia game on TL,don't get me wrong but I wanted to flip out as best as I could,horribly failed though. The biggest concern now is that I generated some kind of defence for Irish_Punk13 which was not my intention,also I got connected with him. Even if You lynch Irish and he flips out Mafia I am DEAD. If You lynch me,I am DEAD. Who else can You lynch? Well,entire society is now focused on me,Irish,AO. It is very easy to make another same analysis post about how my or those two posting was,just take a note that does not certainly mean someone wants to help You,but just to show that Mafia cares to lynch someone who isn't them. My derail wasted a lot of Your time and I am sorry for that,I might meant it,but I did not think that it would turn out to be discussion number 1. Bandwagon is ready Scum,buy Your tickets,I am already cursing at You. | ||
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My analysis would be based on weak accusations and probably overlooked things,I might not be able to write anything useful,but I will try. It is sad to see You're counting me only as dead's last will. But it is okay. | ||
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Now You have a strong case against me while I have no idea how I should deal with besides TRYING to make some analysis. Scum won't make mistakes now or theirs will be a really small ones just to make sure I am dead. I tried making myself easy Day 2 lynchto try to reveal Scum,but I pushed it too hard,thus it is highly likely I will die this Day 1. I will be back in around ten minutes and then I will start writing some helpful analysis I hope. I think I will focus on Sandroba,he's my favourite player so far,never sleeping Sherlock Holmes! | ||
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I will be killed either today or tomorrow by lynch,unless I pull out some newbie miracle | ||
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The Hero of our game so far! First,he votes on Rising_Phoenix + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 01:35 sandroba wrote: ##Rising_Phoenix Ok,fine. His reasoning? + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 01:06 sandroba wrote: You keep doing it in all your posts! Either way I don't feel like you are a good day1 lynch, but I'd like your opinion on this wall of nothingness: This post is the scummiest I've seen so far. He shuts down all ideas as useless, states the obvious multiple times and he even feels the need of repeating himself to make his post larger. He closes it in a beautiful whishy-washy fashion. Really,just because Phoenix does not like the idea of guide posting does not mean he is scummy and wants an easy game,chill! Also I like how he says about big amount of nonsense repeated,when there's nothing bolded or emphasized on. SANDROBA TO CHAOSER,DO YOU HEAR ME? + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 01:33 sandroba wrote: Chaoser, can you give your opinion on the post I just quoted? This is weird. Why would You engage a player,I understand Chaoser is a vet,when we have 2 townie and 2 scum coaches. What's the point? You just want to know what Chaoser thinks of Your posting? Are You a scum waving to scum in those old fashion big nose and huge eyebrows camouflage? After Chaoser responds + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 01:41 chaoser wrote: Sorry, I didn't see it. He has a good point about not going straight for lynching inactives as well as previous game experiences. I disagree with his newbie guides statement. Clearly some people need to use it so making a conscious effort to link them and be like please read them in full is needed. I'm sure most people have skimmed them at best and outright not read them at all at worst. His last statement is wishy-washy. Assessment: I don't think it's more scummy than you, Kurumi or Irish/chao13 at this point. Just because he shot ideas down doesn't mean he's scummy, that's him expressing his opinion. At the same time, clearly what he stated isn't common sense/obvious since people followed along and focused on previous game experiences. You can't just look at one post and say OMG YOU'RE SCUM! It's behavior over time that tips you off on it. Like I said before, if you feel he is scummy, write it down on a notepad or excel sheet (which is an action I know MOST people DON'T DO!) and compare it to future statements. At this time and period though I think Kurumi is infinitely more scummy. He goes for counter attack on my Hero joke! Wait,but You just were scumhunting,Rising_Phoenix was suspicious! Was it Chaoser who pointed out that I am scummy and You should focus on me? He probably felt for taunt,You know. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 01:54 sandroba wrote: Also, shooting down ideas without sugesting something better IS scummy as hell. OH COME ON! You just went with accusation versus Phoenix because he explained how he felt about guides and day 1 lynches,then dropped it! Is Your strategy to suggest everyone is scum unless someone actually believes You? Sounds solid,just like TheMango's SC2 builds. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 04:46 sandroba wrote: What the hell? Kurumi you have easily earned my vote. You make no sense at all. How exactly you feel you are helping town by posting random crap and generating confusion? I read a bunch of other posts from you in other threads and I wonder how I can understand them so easily, while in this thread not at all. Oh man,that feeling when I reeled my first fish together with Dad,so awesome. I WANTED someone to respond and start sniffing around it. Also,he goes with Chaoser's post about how my SC2 forum posting is different from Mafia one. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 01:27 chaoser wrote: Your posting structure here and in general is clearly very different from your general posting structure: Why are you trying to misrepresent your competence after making a scummy post? Oh man,they're teaming up on me already! HEY YOU + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 05:27 sandroba wrote: orgolove, and how do you feel about kurumi insane posting and irish_13/Killer_SOS poping out of the blue to defend him for no apparent reason? I want You to do an analysis for me! Yeah,because I am the boss here,the HERO You know. Start doing something Yourself before making someone help You. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 05:33 sandroba wrote: I'm not talking about JUST the number trick. I'm talking about ALL your "posts" (spam) so far. If you are town and insane (not likely based on all your other posts in the forums) realize that you are not helping at all. COME ON DROP MY POSTING FROM SC2 GENERAL! Is this really the only clue You have against me,oh wait the clue isn't Yours! It is Chaoser's! Where is Your real contribution? You are like kid running around on the playground and accusing others of taking Your toy because they did not want to play with You. Conclusion: Sandroba tries to make look himself pro-town by jumping on my weird posting and teaming up with weird Chaoser's SC2 general posts thing,does not write anything good though. Besides his fast abandoned attack on Phoenix,rest of his posts were repeating how anti-town I am and what others think of him fighting with the bad guys! | ||
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When "Hero" is used entire sentence is devoted to Sandroba and how he works. | ||
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On May 06 2011 00:09 chaos13 wrote: The style of game you guys play here is way beyond what I'm used to on UG, so I apologize for my relative lack of usefulness while I try to figure things out. Kurumi has not done anything to redeem himself in my eyes. His posts have remained useless and confusing. I don't see what a townie would have to gain by lining themselves up for a lynch, so I think that is just his defense for being caught as scum, trying to make us afraid to lynch him so we aren't labeled as scum. If he flips red, then we can take a closer look at the people who are connected to him, such as Irish_Punk. He is standing out to me more than any other player so far. That's all? You just jumped in here after lurking a bit,threw the "weird and confusing early posts",stated my defence as useless and scum last-stand. Where is Your own opinion? You're just jumping on bandwagon. Any analysis please on me or someone else? You can't just go with the flow and contribute nothing. | ||
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The plan was to make me an easy target for bandwagon,sadly I made some mistakes thus making me VERY easy target to bandwagon a day before I wanted it to happen. The Irish thing is just a lie repeated by someone I'd need to look for. My vote for Irish was just a blind vote for a person who came in,left us for a while,call it a poke or whatever. When he came back not only he started contributing so I could unvote him for now,but AO jumped with his "Dead townie good townie" thing. | ||
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Stop repeating yourself and start answering my questions about Your idiotic claims about how my SC2 posting is different from Mafia one. | ||
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Write nothing but confusion,which would make people pick on it and start discussion around. Some people got hooked instantly I am scum (look my Sandroba analysis post which You left in the end of page 32) Airblade stated his trademark lynching is always good,Chaoser teamed up with Sandroba nicely against me. Town started the discussion. Great,the thing I intended to do done! Town starts hardcore scumhunting and brainstorming.. About me and Irish,AO. No God damnit,look at all the vets trying to hide in shadows and some obvious bandwagoners stating the obvious from previous posts. In short,people are looking very closely at me now while dropping everything else and I tried to wake up You by doing bigger analysis post but You just IGNORED it. Fine. Scum got obvious lynch and now will try to push it,but they made some obvious mistakes too,I think I got some of those but not all,come on I am not a mastermind. Delaying my lynch just by day would leave You with more informationthan just killing me and leaving my case abandoned. What do You have besides me,AO and Irish? If I flip town,Irish is just insane townie and AO needs to say "I was wrong" and the game goes on,nothing left,the fuss is cleaned up. | ||
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Load up pretty please. | ||
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I thought it is really dumb to say he is scum based on doing that and to spice things up,it was just the start. Still I don't understand Sandroba calling out for help without doing any real contribution,why he goes after Chaoser (and the SC2 forums posting style) and this is mainly what makes me wonder about him. Also I think he changes his vote on me because he thinks it will be easier to lynch me. | ||
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Why he follows Chaoser and his reason to make me look scummy thanks to differences in posting habit. | ||
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On May 05 2011 12:47 GGQ wrote: Kurumi's style of willfully posting nonsense reminds me of only one other player I've ever seen; serejai from last game. I shot serejai and he flipped mafia. I suggest lynching Kurumi. I wonder why he is bringing serajai's play onto this Mafia. I did not read it and I would not think that my tactic is good anymore after doing that. There's no smurfs,right? So I couldn't flip Serejai's Smurf. | ||
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Kurumi Killer_SOS Irish_Punk13 Redtooth Rising_Phoenix He is allied with: Chaos13 Chaoser You're missing one mafia member. That means You have wrong picks or they are so intelligent that they exposed everyone,but left one person inactive. Sounds like a great plan to lose. | ||
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On May 06 2011 03:52 Ace wrote: this is only Day 1? Yes I really want to pull of some miracle,meh. | ||
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On May 06 2011 04:28 orgolove wrote: Oh wow. I didn't even realize it was chaoser himself that made the spreadsheet. Ugh. Hmm.... That's why You're voting on me? Because I did not make a spreadsheet? I will remember that in the next game,I will make a LOT of them,You know,just to be safe. | ||
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On May 06 2011 05:18 redtooth wrote: Ok I'm catching up atm. Chaoser I'll address you soon enough. But for now, I have no idea wtf Kurumi is doing and will have to re-evaluate. Trying to save myself with a last stand,that's good idea to cut any relations with me because You have no idea who I really am,I don't think You'll suffer though. Just please don't focus only on me,don't lynch me throwing entire energy out on me,please. | ||
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On May 06 2011 06:30 AirbladeOrange wrote: Redtooth, in your last post you said Irish AND Kurumi are town but provided no good reason for it. I want to know why you feel this way. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 21:42 redtooth wrote: @Chaoser - I don't see how the argument is weak or convoluted. It essentially boils down to two things:
Out of all the actions taken in the thread so far, out of all the verbal missteps and the random disappearances and the smurf conspiracy theories, those seem to be the most scummy actions so far. If you believe Irish to be mafia and have a 70% confidence (pretty high mind you) then why is it that you've partially quit your attempt to press him other then to mention in passing that he's still your top suspect. You accuse me of not focusing but here you have 4 targets set before the town with none earning your full attention. Since you seem to be half-heatedly advocating for the Kurumi lynch, if he flips green would you agree that Irish is green as well? I think Kurumi's lynch is actually even more ridiculous but that's besides the point. It's not the fact that there is a simple "chance" of these things being likely, it's the fact that there seems to be a high chance of these things happening. I've re-read their posts numerous times and it isn't a far-fetch'd thing to say that most are simply noobtown. They all act suspicious as hell, almost to the point of playing with reckless abandon and not caring about the follwup. Do these sound like scum actions to you? As for "active lynching", yes I took a very liberal approach to the definition of it. But the bottom line stays the same - every action you took so far has been extraordinarily safe. You called out the people who were easy to call out, regardless of whether they actually seem more like noobtown or not. I can literally run through the thread and call out every ranting member for missteps in word usage and have 10+ well-justified FoS by the end but that doesn't contribute to the thread. What it does do is destroy focus, as evidenced by the game thus far. Scumhunting is incredibly sexy and screams I'M TOWN. Townhunting is not nearly as sexy but just as important and something that you've generally neglected to do. Not every FoS may be a lynch threat but obviously two (Irish and Kurumi) are. And since those two look pretty noobtown, I find it extremely odd that you continue advocating for their lynch. The reason why I didn't put a vote on you yet was because, I'll admit, there isn't enough evidence to totally convince me that you are scum. Talking percentages, I'd say I'm probably around 40% sure. But that 40% is more confidence I have in you being scum than literally anybody else in the thread except maybe KillerSOS. On the other hand, it doesn't make sense at this point to think both you and Killer are scum so a vote will have to wait until I can clear one or the other. @aidnai - Then why is it that people are literally tripping over themselves to keep credit and align themselves with Chaoser? As for Irish, he obviously didn't go inactive as part of a combined scum strategy to get the heat off of him since there are no PMs. If you think Irish actually is noobscum and exposed himself to all those real tells, don't you think he would have done the noobscum followup and aggressively defend himself? (See: KillerSOS) Let's do a math exercise. Consider, as objectively as possible, the following and write down the percent chance you think of each event happening.
On the other hand, do the same for Chaoser.
This made me late for work zzz. Now you are saying that Kumumi is leaning a little less town than before. Why? What changed? I'm even getting uneasy with you defending me as being "to a lesser extent" town. Kurumi I think was the one who tried to get people on my case but he did not have any good analysis. If anyone else has issues with my play let me know up front what the problem is. I don't really think I'm being too defensive, but I'm keeping an eye on people who tried to continue that bandwagon. I'm thinking it is likely that you, Irish, and Kurumi are all mafia. Maybe you are getting desperate because of the poor play of your two teammates and are trying to help them without seeming overly obvious while at the same time trying to shift attention to KillerSoS. Playing Mafia Hero would not benefit him in any way - it is obvious and You already started accusing him being scum. If I flip town,Your entire mindset and things You knew so far are DESTROYED. This is why Your attack is weak. Also think about,what would be the sense of trying to save Your mafia allies who failed horribly? Well,to make Yourself exposed obviously NOT. So far I am happy with my plan all working out,a bit too fast,but it is better than no response,duh. I wonder why people defend Chaoser so much but attack redtooth so hard. | ||
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On May 06 2011 06:44 Forumite wrote: Wouldn´t wasting a day-vigilante be a bit of a waste? You're already wasting Day 1 lynch,so who cares. | ||
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Yes,I do agree with Your analysis on birth certificate,but could You elaborate what Lol has to do with this? Do You think Lol is scum? | ||
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On May 06 2011 06:53 VarpuliS wrote: I think it's a joke. I think we shouldn't joke about Lol being scum. I know birth certificate behaved weird,but.. it does not make any sense! + Show Spoiler + It is a joke! | ||
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Just a thought: I flip red,Irish and redtooth are suspicious. 3 Scum giveaway on Day1? Really? I don't think it is possible. I flip blue and people can't understand how I managed to get myself lynched I flip green and Irish and redtooth are not as suspicious,but every person nitpicking and tunneling me is now suspicious,together with bandwagoners and lurkers emerging just to vote on me. + Show Spoiler + I will flip rainbow,maybe even double one | ||
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On May 06 2011 07:00 AirbladeOrange wrote: Please don't use any vigilante actions now. It's way too soon without having much to go on. These percentages don't really mean anything and anyone advocating the use of our blue roles at this point is not having the town's best interests in mind. Are You trying to stealthy defend Irish? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I really need to go to bed | ||
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Glad to see I helped a bit,when there's easy mode enabled it is easier to make mistakes than on hard mode,I think. Maybe it was a short first game for me,but it was fun nonetheless,thanks! | ||
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On May 10 2011 04:28 aidnai wrote: [spectral voice] *ahem* [/spectral voice] shut up foo' ghosts don't exist + Show Spoiler + I am joking(I didn't mean to be aggressive by any means) | ||
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