EPTTL Mafia XXXIX - Page 92
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 12 2011 13:15 orgolove wrote: Are you giving up now that Town is on to Scum? Sure. Lynch me -_- I really don't care anymore. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
You talk about all the work you put in but you didn't post for what like 40 hours? And you are surprised no one went with your ideas after you completely disappear? | ||
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DropBear
Australia4365 Posts
On May 12 2011 12:47 orgolove wrote: Sure. My list of suspects remains the same.
Your list is the same as it was after the Day 2 vote. Why haven't you changed it based on today's vote? There is an absolute tonne of new info coming from EM's lynch. | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
On May 12 2011 13:26 Mig wrote: You have a ridiculous attitude orglove considering you didn't post for more than an entire day. Then you could have made the deciding vote but instead you let your vote not count and then post bashing the town 30 min later. You talk about all the work you put in but you didn't post for what like 40 hours? And you are surprised no one went with your ideas after you completely disappear? Uh, I have lives like anyone else. I think I spent enough time on Day 2 of this game given it took like 6 hours to take the data, think of reasonable factors, apply the patterns, write up a convincing summary. And yet you guys would rather listen to ineffective and at best circumstantial evidence without looking at hard data. I can't change your behaviors. But you guys also can't force me to put in all that effort again, when I know it'll go to waste. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 12 2011 13:27 orgolove wrote: Seriously? The only ones calling you scum until now is EM and I. Where is the framing going on? You expect me to spend another 3-4 hours recording every single vote, when I know it won't be heeded? Notice how a. none of the townies actually cared to read it, and b. my suspects are actually trying to frame me back as a red because they feel threatened. GG | ||
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DropBear
Australia4365 Posts
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
And you still haven't said why you didn't vote between EM and sinani. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4365 Posts
On May 12 2011 13:30 orgolove wrote: And yet you guys would rather listen to ineffective and at best circumstantial evidence without looking at hard data. Dude, EM was on Kurumi day 1. He was on Cthazsa instead of Amber[Light] Day 2, the switched late. Pretty sure that's why people were looking at voting for him. Plus EM was on chaoser's list of suspects and chaoser got 3 mafia in one day (if you include Irish_Punk13). Your analysis had EM at 2.5 and sinani at 1.5, both middle of the table. You admit it wouldn't have caught GGQ. On May 10 2011 16:54 orgolove wrote: Of course, this process isn't completely infallible. For instance, I probably would not have caught GGQ with this method, as he voted for cthsazsa just once during the second day. This also shows the most important flaw of this method - lack of data. The more data I have, the more accurate I can get. You have more data to be accurate now, the EM lynch. Yet now you don't want to analyse it. | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
On May 12 2011 13:38 DropBear wrote: Those of his suspects who is coming back to "frame him" is me and VarpuliS. AirbladeOrange and ilovejonn are nowhere to be seen. ilovejonn made plenty of posts accusing me. 3 out of 4. On May 12 2011 13:40 Mig wrote: You could be the best scum hunter in the world but if you don't have the time or ability to actually post and convince people of your ideas then that's the fault of your game not the town's. And you still haven't said why you didn't vote between EM and sinani. I'm not convinced either of them are mafia above the 4 I listed. On May 12 2011 13:46 Varpulis wrote: Why should I trust orgolove's data? We've killed three mafia, and are about to kill a forth. None of them were on his suspect list, which was based entirely on his data. You lynched 1. And 1 only. The other one was killed by a vigilante. Both were done before I posted my data. The remaining two were modkilled. You called that a good record? LOL "About to kill a 4th" suuuuure. I have 100% confidence that you'll kill a red tomorrow. Yes. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On May 12 2011 13:46 Varpulis wrote: Why should I trust orgolove's data? We've killed three mafia, and are about to kill a forth. None of them were on his suspect list, which was based entirely on his data. [astral voice]You all only lynched one and that was only because I fake claimed DT. In fact you were voting for Cthsazsa and NOT amber before my claim. The other was modkilled and the final one was shot by a vigi, both of which were not in your control. Don't get all high and mighty, dude[/astral voice] | ||
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DropBear
Australia4365 Posts
First one on day 1. On May 05 2011 07:03 ilovejonn wrote: I think this is true. I don't know why he would ask questions such as what was your mafia experience. Sure it generates discussion but is any of that really relevant to scum hunting? Unless this is another one of his plans to draw out responses.. He is agreeing with orgolove about his suspicion of redtooth. This post is interesting for another reason. I would like to refer everyone to Kitaman27's analysis of Amber's posts on Day 3. The key point here is that Amber was trying to tie himself to redtooth. Orgolove on the other hand is attacking redtooth. 3 posts on day 3. The first one casts doubt upon his analysis, which incidentally had ilovejonn as the second ranked target. On May 11 2011 03:17 ilovejonn wrote: Hold up everyone. You guys still think I am scum just because of a) I did not vote switch to Amber, and b) I was on the bad end of the lynches? Did I not already say I was going to be out the whole day on Mother's day? I cannot believe you guys would have missed that. Even if chaoser claimed his DT earlier in the day I would not have seen his claim, and his claim was actually near the end of the day cycle! I'd also like to hear what the numbers meant on orgolove's stat thing. 0.5 in b, 3 in g, 5 in j. I read somewhere people got - points just because they vote switched to Amber? Did you not consider the circumstance where I could not have gotten internet access that day because I was out? And just because people vote switched to Amber does NOT mean they are town, it could have simply been a bussing of a team mate. Second one, accuses orgolove of being godfather On May 11 2011 03:52 ilovejonn wrote: Wow can you guys not read only one part of a sentence? I am basically role claiming there hello? It's fine if you don't believe you can go ahead and vote for me, but I'd rather not have us mislynch. If there are still veterans in the mafia, my GF suspects are redtooth and orgolove. If there are only new players in the mafia team left it could be anyone really. He's been suspicious of redtooth before, as noted in the quote from day 1. His first suspicion of orgolove comes after the spreadsheet. This is the last one, on page 81. On May 11 2011 04:25 ilovejonn wrote: redtooth because he has been rather quiet after being wrong and going against chaoser. He just posted before but he voted for himself in case he can't vote. I'm willing to let that go because I know real life circumstances can influence how you play, but I'm still suspicious. orgolove because I don't recall seeing him doing any real behavioral analysis besides putting out that spreadsheet. This is of course assuming the GF is a veteran, that's why I chose those too. Like I said if the GF is not a veteran, then it could be anyone really. While he has talked about you orgolove, that isn't 3 out of 4. It's 3 out of 15 on day 3. On the other hand, he hasn't attacked orgolove at all until he was brought up as mafia by orgolove himself. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
And varpulis chaoser is definitely right, town should not be cocky right now. If we lynch sinani and hes mafia then we pretty much have the game locked up but if hes town then we will have gained very little information from the last 2 days and we won't be in the greatest shape. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4365 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4365 Posts
Orgolove. You painted me as the biggest target, but you voted ilovejonn. On May 10 2011 18:04 orgolove wrote: If you really are a green, it does us no good to fall silent. Explain your thought process. Give us a reason to not vote for you. Come on man. I'm assuming I did enough to make you feel ok about me, so you vote ilovejonn who is second on your list. You don't vote for either sinani206 or EM. Neither did you defend them actively (i.e. by name), other than your list which had them in the middle. Is it the case that you were away for most of the day and just didn't have time to defend them and got back to your computer half an hour after the lynch? And this: On May 12 2011 13:15 orgolove wrote: Sure. Lynch me -_- I really don't care anymore. is because you're angry at being ignored? You've been on the ban list twice before. It makes sense if you are angry because noone listened to you and you've got a history of lashing out. My big backlash against you has been because I've been at the top of your list, because I suspected you before and lastly because I don't like being told I'm a stupid noob, even if it's true. After looking through ilovejonn's posts about you and the fact that 3 of your 4 have completely rubbished what you said, I'm listening to you again. Please update the spreadsheet. I'll echo what you said to me. If you are green, it does us no good to fall silent. | ||
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