EPTOn May 07 2011 13:50 DropBear wrote:
Great minds think alike kita
Great minds think alike kita
Insane ones do too
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On May 07 2011 13:32 Conversion wrote: I never called you scum Cthsazsa. I don't think your ability to read exists, but whatever. You're so scummy, it hurts. CTHSAZSA I, Conversion/red], have given much thought to the following argument and have relatively high confidence in its accuracy. Cthsazsa has made 41 posts in this thread. FOURTY ONE posts. How many of them had actual content/were beneficial or informational to town? Absolutely zero. One if you count his bullshit "analysis" against me. + Show Spoiler [examples of his quality posts] + On May 04 2011 21:03 Cthsazsa wrote: Just finished reading all the posts. I must say, I haven't really seen a legitimate reason to be suspicious of anyone. Right now it's just a bunch of people pointing fingers at each other. On May 05 2011 06:47 Cthsazsa wrote: Also, someone suggested that I could possibly be a smurf? Sorry to disappoint, but no I am not  Soft defends inactives. I really can't see how this is a pro-town post AT ALL. When he's called out on his scummy post, this is his trump "I'm a newbie card." + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 08:38 Cthsazsa wrote: Woops, I guess I misunderstood that. This is my first Mafia game, so I wouldn't know that lynching inactives is common.. Basically goes MIA and lurks hardcore after calling me out for being a lurker. Look at this gem. No proof, no attempt at analysis. "Beneather's a lurker." Hah, real good. Want to put some more effort into playing the game? This guy deflects attention like crazy then plays the newbie card. Spams when jackal tunnels him, plays the newbie card AGAIN, then goes MIA. + Show Spoiler [Really long posts that basically says…] + On May 06 2011 13:57 Cthsazsa wrote: My take on the situation before I go to bed. + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 13:08 DropBear wrote: On VarpuliS 22 posts since the game started for real, starting with 228. Your post is pretty empty yourself. I am interested in the fact that very early on you say that active does not mean scummy. Why not? You are repeatedly talking about inactives but you go to absolute no lengths to actually bring them out. Noone is named, no requests are given. This is all pointless. VarpuliS was very strongly on the Kurumi lynch. Here is his case: This is the only major analysis from him so far. He makes a large song and dance about how much of what Kurumi says doesn't make sense. The part where you say he's posted good content you also say you don't agree with it all. Could you elaborate? Also I find little difference between many of the posts you say are misleading drivel and those that are "actual content". You've helped lynch Kurumi on grounds of spam and unhelpful/misleading posts. This is also spam, unhelpful and misleading, as are about 5 of your posts around here. There's a FoS on Cthsazsa which you very quickly forget about. Cthsazsa is on my scum list as well as you. This is an attempt to help you appear town down the line when Cthsazsa flips. If you really were town and felt like hunting scum you'd follow up on this. Following this is a few posts regarding posting in third person. These are just spam, unhelpful and misleading, just like your read on Kurumi. Next is his third FoS, Irish_Punk13: This is entirely a push for an information lynch which is a very bad idea. Also, what happened to your case against Irish_Punk13? He retracts the information lynch idea, then follows up with a post stating the bleeding obvious about Rising_Phoenix. You still aren't contributing at all other than tunnelling Kurumi hardcore. Follows this with huge reposting of redtooth's arguments, copy-pasted. The only other real post of note he has is this: Why was this not followed up on? Interestingly enough Cthsasza also brings him up and doesn't do anything about it. CONCLUSION [red]VarpuliS is mafia. He does a whole lot of talking and doesn't actually say anything. He very strongly tried to get Kurumi lynched and did nothing else. He is hiding in plain sight. His complete lack of any contribution other than tunneling Kurumi, self-contradictions and complete disappearance once the Kurumi lynch was certain, plus his interaction with other people I believe to be scum make him dodgy. Actually, I did do something about it. I looked up Beneather's post history in this thread. VarpuliS was wrong. Beneather posted 3 times since the game started. The three posts he made don't have much value to them, though. He asked Forumite to analyze the posts. Forumite did, but very poorly. After Forumite's analysis, Beneather never commented on it. In fact he never talked about it again. This dude's clearly lurking. As for my one liner, I apologize DropBear. My girlfriend was in the hospital, and I couldn't resist checking up on the thread while I was waiting. So I hastily gave my opinion of him, which was a mistake. I should've waited until now to give my analysis. DropBear, you also said I didn't do anything about it. Well, neither have you. And on your post against VarpuliS, you do a really good job pointing out his slipups. You've pretty much stated why he is one of my FoS. That is exactly what VarpuliS said, you even quoted it. I find that to be a horrible reason to call someone scum. Not because I'm the target in it, but because you can use that argument on literally anyone. Forumite Why he is becoming a FoS in my books. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 07:04 Forumite wrote: If you are blue, now´s the time to roleclaim. Why are you arguing that day-vigilante is a good move by using probabilities you yourself think are wrong? + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 06:33 Forumite wrote: Is it tunneling if you admit that I´m right, that calling Irish and Kurumi scum would be protown right now? + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 06:44 Forumite wrote: Wouldn´t wasting a day-vigilante be a bit of a waste? Lets make comparisons between those posts by Forumite. Each of these posts are either asking a question or making a statement to continue the argument. They aren't worth any value, don't contribute, and all they do is draw out pointless/stupid arguments that don't benefit the town. In his last post before Kurumi's death, he hops on the bandwagon and switches his vote to Kurumi. My top 3 FoS right now are Beneather, Forumite, and VarspuliS This "analysis" of his points out his FoS patterns. Anyone that lurks or makes contentless posts = scum. Oh wait, what did he do all game? By his logic, he should be scum, right? Not only that, he says way too many people are pointing fingers and he goes ahead and makes three useless FoS on Beneather, Forumite, and VarspuliS. Also Cthsazsa, can you give us YOUR definition of an inactive and a lurker and how you would distinguish between these two? Because in my book, they can't be distinguished unless they get pressured. His last two posts + Show Spoiler + On May 07 2011 07:41 Cthsazsa wrote: It's clear that Redtooth is derailing the thread and taking attention away from scumhunting by creating his own set of rules that we "have" to follow. On May 07 2011 07:45 Cthsazsa wrote: @Conversion, I don't see why you need to get so angry. Chill out man. The only person I FoS'd that was calling me scum was you, anyways. Idk if he's really stupid or he can't read. I never convicted him of being scum ever in this thread, but okay. Now I am. This guy is scum and should be lynched. No doubt. ##Vote: Cthsazsa Either you're stupid or stupid, because you didn't give any thought at all in your argument. I can't read? Apparently you cant. You even quoted my post where I addressed the reason I posted the one-liner, corrected myself, and my analysis. I also gave my definition of inactive and lurking, twice. Asking me to state it a third time is just asking me to derail the thread. Lern2rade. You said you are going to vote lynch on me until I die, so it's pretty damn obvious you're calling me scum. Come on dude, you fail so hard you can't even pick up inference clues in your own post. /facepalm Explain how my FoS's on beneather, Forumite and VarspuliS is useless? I gave an explanation for why I find them suspicious. As far as I'm concerned, it's a damn better job than what you're doing. Perhaps you should stop making hypocritical posts that spam up the thread and start contributing. | ||
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ilovejonn
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On the subject of the rules he placed down though, I think it is for the better for town even though I am not going to follow every single rule he has. Perhaps the major issue is that I've always done analysis the way I've did before, reading every single post of a player and seeing what their objective is of that post if they are mafia, hence I quote a ton of posts. Maybe I am doing it wrong, but I'll agree to cut down useless quotes in order to get the main point across. I guess players need to do something better/different each game in order to improve. I'll try my best to adhere to those rules for the better of us. | ||
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PaqMan
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On May 07 2011 14:01 GMarshal wrote: Please attack the argument, not the person My apologies Conversion. Your argument made no sense. | ||
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Conversion
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Do you have a tendency to lash out against people who convict you? You're making the absolute worst argument and it just builds up your case as acting scummy. Either you're a bad newbie townie that doesn't want to improve, or you're scum. I don't think anyone in this world can be that stupid, so I'm going with scum. If you think I'm so "hypocritical," can you find me a post where I called you scum ANYWHERE before my long analysis? ... You can't? Wait, let me point some more fingers like you. FoS half the user list for being inactive/"lurkers" wait wut? And it's kind of sad that someone with 42 contentless posts is telling me to contribute... /facepalm @ u too, scum. | ||
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My FoS is still on redtooth for now, I'm not sure if his big rules thing makes him seem more innocent or not, I'll have to go over it more carefully tomorrow evening. | ||
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Conversion
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I never thought someone that was town could be worse than me when I first started, lmfao. Kudos to you good sir. | ||
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PaqMan
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On May 07 2011 14:06 Conversion wrote: 42 posts now, almost 0 contribution. Do you have a tendency to lash out against people who convict you? You're making the absolute worst argument and it just builds up your case as acting scummy. Either you're a bad newbie townie that doesn't want to improve, or you're scum. I don't think anyone in this world can be that stupid, so I'm going with scum. If you think I'm so "hypocritical," can you find me a post where I called you scum ANYWHERE before my long analysis? ... You can't? Wait, let me point some more fingers like you. FoS half the user list for being inactive/"lurkers" wait wut? And it's kind of sad that someone with 42 contentless posts is telling me to contribute... /facepalm @ u too, scum. You didn't address my counter-argument, instead you keep calling me stupid. I didn't know 3 people was half the user list? Fail. I called you hypocritical because you continuously call my posts worthless, yet none of your posts are benefiting the town. Not because you'r accusing me of scum. | ||
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Conversion
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Do you want me to be like you and throw FoS on three people, but never make a solid conviction? Then go MIA and come out of my scum hole when someone makes a case against me? It's pretty sad that you try so hard to look scummy, but I'm done arguing with scum like you. You're just spamming up this thread and giving your scum buddies a chance to lurk while we take away town's attention by arguing. My vote's staying on you, tough. You say you're a newbie, but you're not really doing anything to learn about being pro-town. Keep arguing, it helps build up your scum cred. | ||
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orgolove
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On May 07 2011 13:49 DropBear wrote: What redtooth is doing is derailing town. Don't listen to him. Yeah. Actually, this was how I felt in the first place... he started the game by attempting to lead town's discussion into "sharing your mafia experiences" And now he's doing shit like this. ugh. You know what. Despite all my misgivings, I'm voting on him. | ||
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kitaman27
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On May 07 2011 14:13 orgolove wrote: Yeah. Actually, this was how I felt in the first place... he started the game by attempting to lead town's discussion into "sharing your mafia experiences" And now he's doing shit like this. ugh. You know what. Despite all my misgivings, I'm voting on him. On May 07 2011 09:30 orgolove wrote: Although I've initially suspected redtooth because of his (kinda dumb) initial post that asked people to share their mafia experiences... The past ~10 pages have convinced me otherwise. He's really putting serious effort into his posts, and he's trying to trick things without being afraid of being revealed. I can't detect any hint of red-ness (pun intended). Aren't you contradicting yourself? First you say the rules episode makes you feel like he is pro-town and now you vote for him because you agree with DropBear that he is derailing the town? | ||
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PaqMan
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DropBear did a nice job drawing a case against redtooth, so I apologize if I state things he's already said. But I feel I should at least post my reasons for voting him. His posts are inconsistent. As soon as game started he was calling someone scum. Soon after that he posts a guide. Although this reason is debatable, it could have just been made to make him appear pro-town and to divert attention away from his quick accusation. He's been distracting our attention since the game started. Mafia experience discussion, Newb guide, and he even created a set of rules, which we must follow or he will FoS us. That last one has raised my suspicion the most. It could be used to distract us and derail the thread. It could be used to make himself appear protown. If that's the case, it has backfired. | ||
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I'm still suspicious of Redtooth but I think there is not enough to go on now and there are better candidates, especially Cthsazsa. I'm gonna look up his posts soon and post something on it. | ||
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