EPTThe past ~10 pages have convinced me otherwise.
He's really putting serious effort into his posts, and he's trying to trick things without being afraid of being revealed. I can't detect any hint of red-ness (pun intended).
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
The past ~10 pages have convinced me otherwise. He's really putting serious effort into his posts, and he's trying to trick things without being afraid of being revealed. I can't detect any hint of red-ness (pun intended). | ||
GMarshal
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Kenpachi
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kitaman27
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On May 07 2011 12:03 GMarshal wrote: This isn't a day post ^_^ ##Shoot GMarshal | ||
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Node
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Day 2 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XXqwv.jpg) They slouch on their way to work and almost stumble on their old acquaintances, three shapeless lumps in the fog. They’re dead. Wrapped in plastic, too hard-bound to free their hands and rip at their prisons. Coffined-in faces, frozen horror. Well, at least almost everyone already dies of asphyxiation in this city -- what else did they expect? aidnai the Detective is dead. KillerSOS the Night Vigilante is dead. jackal58 the Townie is dead. Day 2 has started! The town is already in trouble, but that doesn’t mean they can’t get back on track. Lynch is in 48 hours! | ||
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jaminz
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kitaman27
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On May 07 2011 12:41 jaminz wrote: Aaaand fuck. I was completely wrong on my analysis of KillerSOS Could you refer me to that analysis? | ||
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aidnai
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never give up, never surrender! go town! | ||
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jaminz
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After reading back over it, there wasn’t a ton of concrete evidence I guess, but his posting was a little weird. Here’s the posts I’ve made regarding KillerSOS. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 10:54 jaminz wrote: I did want to mention some thoughts about KillerSOS. So far, he has 49 posts in the thread, and I’ve seen only one that even attempts analysis. In pretty much everyone of his posts all he’s doing is agreeing with other people about who they’ve suspected. He posted briefly about his thoughts on Jackal, Cthsazsa, and chaoser, and decided that chaoser is the most suspicious because he posted a lot in the beginning then (seemingly) dialed back later on. His posts don’t really seem to have much substance to them. He’s definitely suspicious for me. If I had to pick someone to vote for right now, it’d likely be between Irish_Punk13 and KillerSOS. Note: I cut out the sections of this first spoilered post that weren’t about KillerSOS to save space & for relevancy. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 11:09 jaminz wrote: Wow......this is such a dumb thing to say. You're essentially saying that its good not to say anything that could possibly make people (either mafia or town) look at you. You realize that the only way to find mafia is to do analysis, and that in doing analysis you're going to bring attention to yourself. I don't understand how you can make this comment and expect it to be a good explanation for your posting habits. This is insane + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 11:11 jaminz wrote: Are you saying you're a blue? That's a really dumb thing to say either way. + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 12:58 jaminz wrote: Yet another post with no information/analysis. Why are you jumping onto the Cthsazsa bandwagon? + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 13:06 jaminz wrote: I don't understand your posts. You acknowledge that your posting isn't helping anything, and even say it's the wrong way to play. Yet you seem to decide that it's fun so you'll keep doing it. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
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AirbladeOrange
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I messed up that last post. I meant that the mafia are playing to that idea of the town being confused as to whether Chaoser or Redtooth are mafia, prompting town to pick one to lynch. Jackal and aidnai were less polarizing figures and veteran players. | ||
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Conversion
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CTHSAZSA I, Conversion/red], have given much thought to the following argument and have relatively high confidence in its accuracy. Cthsazsa has made 41 posts in this thread. FOURTY ONE posts. How many of them had actual content/were beneficial or informational to town? Absolutely zero. One if you count his bullshit "analysis" against me. + Show Spoiler [examples of his quality posts] + On May 04 2011 21:03 Cthsazsa wrote: Just finished reading all the posts. I must say, I haven't really seen a legitimate reason to be suspicious of anyone. Right now it's just a bunch of people pointing fingers at each other. On May 05 2011 06:47 Cthsazsa wrote: Also, someone suggested that I could possibly be a smurf? Sorry to disappoint, but no I am not  On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes. People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Soft defends inactives. I really can't see how this is a pro-town post AT ALL. When he's called out on his scummy post, this is his trump "I'm a newbie card." + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 08:38 Cthsazsa wrote: Woops, I guess I misunderstood that. This is my first Mafia game, so I wouldn't know that lynching inactives is common.. Basically goes MIA and lurks hardcore after calling me out for being a lurker. Look at this gem. On May 06 2011 10:11 Cthsazsa wrote: Beneather's a lurker No proof, no attempt at analysis. "Beneather's a lurker." Hah, real good. Want to put some more effort into playing the game? This guy deflects attention like crazy then plays the newbie card. Spams when jackal tunnels him, plays the newbie card AGAIN, then goes MIA. + Show Spoiler [Really long posts that basically says…] + On May 06 2011 13:57 Cthsazsa wrote: My take on the situation before I go to bed. + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 13:08 DropBear wrote: On VarpuliS 22 posts since the game started for real, starting with 228. Your post is pretty empty yourself. I am interested in the fact that very early on you say that active does not mean scummy. Why not? You are repeatedly talking about inactives but you go to absolute no lengths to actually bring them out. Noone is named, no requests are given. This is all pointless. VarpuliS was very strongly on the Kurumi lynch. Here is his case: This is the only major analysis from him so far. He makes a large song and dance about how much of what Kurumi says doesn't make sense. The part where you say he's posted good content you also say you don't agree with it all. Could you elaborate? Also I find little difference between many of the posts you say are misleading drivel and those that are "actual content". You've helped lynch Kurumi on grounds of spam and unhelpful/misleading posts. This is also spam, unhelpful and misleading, as are about 5 of your posts around here. There's a FoS on Cthsazsa which you very quickly forget about. Cthsazsa is on my scum list as well as you. This is an attempt to help you appear town down the line when Cthsazsa flips. If you really were town and felt like hunting scum you'd follow up on this. Following this is a few posts regarding posting in third person. These are just spam, unhelpful and misleading, just like your read on Kurumi. Next is his third FoS, Irish_Punk13: This is entirely a push for an information lynch which is a very bad idea. Also, what happened to your case against Irish_Punk13? He retracts the information lynch idea, then follows up with a post stating the bleeding obvious about Rising_Phoenix. You still aren't contributing at all other than tunnelling Kurumi hardcore. Follows this with huge reposting of redtooth's arguments, copy-pasted. The only other real post of note he has is this: Why was this not followed up on? Interestingly enough Cthsasza also brings him up and doesn't do anything about it. CONCLUSION [red]VarpuliS is mafia. He does a whole lot of talking and doesn't actually say anything. He very strongly tried to get Kurumi lynched and did nothing else. He is hiding in plain sight. His complete lack of any contribution other than tunneling Kurumi, self-contradictions and complete disappearance once the Kurumi lynch was certain, plus his interaction with other people I believe to be scum make him dodgy. Actually, I did do something about it. I looked up Beneather's post history in this thread. VarpuliS was wrong. Beneather posted 3 times since the game started. The three posts he made don't have much value to them, though. He asked Forumite to analyze the posts. Forumite did, but very poorly. After Forumite's analysis, Beneather never commented on it. In fact he never talked about it again. This dude's clearly lurking. As for my one liner, I apologize DropBear. My girlfriend was in the hospital, and I couldn't resist checking up on the thread while I was waiting. So I hastily gave my opinion of him, which was a mistake. I should've waited until now to give my analysis. DropBear, you also said I didn't do anything about it. Well, neither have you. And on your post against VarpuliS, you do a really good job pointing out his slipups. You've pretty much stated why he is one of my FoS. That is exactly what VarpuliS said, you even quoted it. I find that to be a horrible reason to call someone scum. Not because I'm the target in it, but because you can use that argument on literally anyone. Forumite Why he is becoming a FoS in my books. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 07:04 Forumite wrote: If you are blue, now´s the time to roleclaim. Why are you arguing that day-vigilante is a good move by using probabilities you yourself think are wrong? + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 06:33 Forumite wrote: Is it tunneling if you admit that I´m right, that calling Irish and Kurumi scum would be protown right now? + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 06:44 Forumite wrote: Wouldn´t wasting a day-vigilante be a bit of a waste? Lets make comparisons between those posts by Forumite. Each of these posts are either asking a question or making a statement to continue the argument. They aren't worth any value, don't contribute, and all they do is draw out pointless/stupid arguments that don't benefit the town. In his last post before Kurumi's death, he hops on the bandwagon and switches his vote to Kurumi. My top 3 FoS right now are Beneather, Forumite, and VarspuliS This "analysis" of his points out his FoS patterns. Anyone that lurks or makes contentless posts = scum. Oh wait, what did he do all game? By his logic, he should be scum, right? Not only that, he says way too many people are pointing fingers and he goes ahead and makes three useless FoS on Beneather, Forumite, and VarspuliS. Also Cthsazsa, can you give us YOUR definition of an inactive and a lurker and how you would distinguish between these two? Because in my book, they can't be distinguished unless they get pressured. His last two posts + Show Spoiler + On May 07 2011 07:41 Cthsazsa wrote: It's clear that Redtooth is derailing the thread and taking attention away from scumhunting by creating his own set of rules that we "have" to follow. On May 07 2011 07:45 Cthsazsa wrote: @Conversion, I don't see why you need to get so angry. Chill out man. The only person I FoS'd that was calling me scum was you, anyways. Idk if he's really stupid or he can't read. I never convicted him of being scum ever in this thread, but okay. Now I am. This guy is scum and should be lynched. No doubt. ##Vote: Cthsazsa | ||
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chaoser
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On May 07 2011 13:23 AirbladeOrange wrote: I think there's a decent chance of that between Chaoser and Redtooth, one of them is mafia. I think someone else already said that but I agree. I'm still leaning toward Chaoser being town and probably Redtooth mafia. I think the mafia are playing to this killing active veteran jackal and aidnai as well. KillerSoS I don't quite understand. He was already under a good amount of heat. Unless they are trying to make a guy like jaminz a lynch target. Sorry I haven't been posting but my internet went out at 4 this afternoon and I just got access cause I'm at the library studying for finals. They killed KillerSOS cause he let slip BIG TIME that he was blue. He said in one of his posts "Why would I want to stand out? I don't want to die" and then later he said "think about what other people besides red want to stay alive." Mafia already knew he was blue at that point I'm sure. Either way, moving on, Amber, so you're basically saying that you have 1) good scum hunting skills as shown in Insane 1 but then 2) You don't use them and you lurk when you're mafia like in Insane 2? On the Kurumi thing, you're basically saying that you bandwagoned right? While the votes were split off, it was like 13 votes on Kurumi and Irish had the next most amount of votes at 4, so there wasn't really going to be much of a chance, not at all a dangerous situation I feel like. Either way, who are your top three suspects and why? | ||
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kitaman27
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On May 07 2011 12:41 jaminz wrote: Aaaand fuck. I was completely wrong on my analysis of KillerSOS On May 07 2011 13:18 jaminz wrote: @Kita After reading back over it, there wasn’t a ton of concrete evidence I guess On May 05 2011 11:14 jaminz wrote: Yeah, I posted that without thinking about it, dumb move on my part. I would hardly call those posts you quoted an analysis. I question how you could be completely wrong thinking he was scum when you pointed out his blue tell and then acknowledged it was a dumb move. The post after the night hits seems guilty if you ask me. In newbie mafia you were a day one hit because of your pro town analysis and towards the end of XXXVIII you showed you were a capable player, but I haven't really seen much out of you so far this game. You're on my watch list to say the least. | ||
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DropBear
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Before his big "reorganisation" people were looking at who voted for Kurumi. Now discussion is being dominated by rules on how we should post. He is trying to shift the focus of town away from scumhunting. If this isn't pushing Mafia objectives I don't know what is. I urge everyone to continue posting analysis and prodding people. Instead of his rules, I offer two: 1. Keep it structured 2. Back it up with evidence. That's all you need! Continue looking at people, keep hunting! JAMINZ You received the most incredible blue slip out of KillerSOS. On May 05 2011 11:11 jaminz wrote: Are you saying you're a blue? That's a really dumb thing to say either way. Your post just now explaining your voting pattern has left out this post just after: On May 05 2011 11:14 jaminz wrote: Yeah, I posted that without thinking about it, dumb move on my part. You voted for him anyway. Could you explain please? | ||
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