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Impervious
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Jackal58
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Impervious
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I can't believe how dumb you are if you think that kind of inconsistency is going to convince anyone. In fact, I'm starting to think that Ace really is the DT. And you really are the GF. The message "Watch the Canadian" could simply mean that your scumbuddy should watch out for me, since I'm the one who's consistently going against you. It actually fits pretty nicely. | ||
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Impervious
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:03 Impervious wrote: Jackal, first you're calling out Ace and sandroba, now, if you're trying to connect me to Ace's message, it means that you're confirming him as town..... I can't believe how dumb you are if you think that kind of inconsistency is going to convince anyone. In fact, I'm starting to think that Ace really is the DT. And you really are the GF. The message "Watch the Canadian" could simply mean that your scumbuddy should watch out for me, since I'm the one who's consistently going against you. It actually fits pretty nicely. I never said I was smart. Dammit. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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Mr. Wiggles
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I'm going to post again a little before the Day post. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
I'm going to sleep now. I'll see you guys tomorrow if I survive the night. I really don't have anything more to contribute atm. I'll update my suspect list, though, before I turn in. + Show Spoiler [Updated player reads] + Impervious: Opinion has changed. I'll do a more full analysis tomorrow, but suffice to say his most recent actions haven't been super town friendly. Jackal58: Bad accusation based off of poor evidence. Mr. Wiggles: He was quite quiet early on, but his activity rose sharply after his finals ended, and he's been posting with quality and frequency since then. I'm calling this strong town play. unchanged Ace: I'm inclined to believe Ace's roleclaim, because the evidence fits and his logic and reasoning are solid. I don't agree with the lynch on bum which he spearheaded, but bum could easily have been scum, and the illogic and stupidity of his DT claim didn't help his case. Also, Sandroba's vet claim supports Ace's claim. unchanged Eiii: Lurking. Not town friendly. Occasionally pops in with a post, but has made some questionable decisions, and isn't being helpful to the town. Not much more to say about him, because he hasn't given me much to analyze. unchanged VarpuliS: I'm pretty sure that I'm town. Still on the fence though. I'll post later with an update  + Show Spoiler +jkjkjkjk unchanged replacement has been equally inactive. Weird. Sandroba: His vet claim makes a lot of sense, considering the events of last night. He's been quite pro-town with his posting, but then again I only skimmed the first half of them because I don't need further convincing. Maybe I'm just naive. unchanged | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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Imp has been connected to the Canadian quote, so he's either scum, or scum can use it to push a lynch on him. Also, I've connected Varp to Ace and San already so his death will give information, but I'm re-evaluating that judgment. That leaves me as the kill as I've been pretty active and trying to figure out what's happening. A few words to town if I'm dead. Don't follow anyone based only on a blue-claim. Ace is going to have another message for you guys, and it might help lead you in the right direction. Keep in mind though, that Ace could easily be lying. So, if you use that information to your advantage, or he tries to push something, don't do it solely on the message, but based on the logic behind it. Also keep in mind that if Ace is telling the truth, the Cell leader might actually be smart enough to send a message with fake information in anticipation of Ace intercepting it. So, don't blindly trust whatever message Ace reveals, as it could have been be tampered with, or could be a complete fabrication by Ace. Use your head, don't rely on claims. Watch who starts pushing what plan. If Ace/San are scum, then they'll either quickly push for Impervious or Jackal as a lynch, as they're both easy to kill based on the DT and "messages". At first, I also wanted to lump Varp with them, because of his "alignment list", which looked like it was basically parroting Ace and taking as true any blue information that had been given. However, I'm now considering the possibility of a Varpulis/Impervious/BB team too, with maybe Jackal. Every day, varp has been proposing Darm(BB) as the lynch, but never hard enough to actually get him killed. It seemed that both days, he just switched from a Darm vote to whoever was getting modkilled. This is easy for scum to do, especially if they know the person being modkilled isn't scum but Darm is. The switch is because he'd rather one town die than have to sacrifice a scum player who would otherwise live. His constant targeting of Darm without ever actually being serious about it seems like a scum who wants to get townie cred for lynching a lurking scum. Also, his list could be taken that he just wants to look town with it, appealing to popular opinion. Just watch who he's pushing for tomorrow, and how. Impervious has a couple posts that are making me suspicious of him as well now, and he's also already pushing for Jackal. This doesn't tell me much about Jackal's alignment, but if he's town, he's the go-to lynch for any scum that are around. It'll be really easy to push for him based on the DT check, and could also be used as a bus for scum. Imp seems to be pushing hard, like he wants to set it up already for the next day and get a head start on suggesting Jackal's lynch. So, keep in mind the possibility of Ace/San, but also the connections between Varp and BB, and now Imp pushing for Jackal. I've got a sinking feeling about Varp/Imp/BB right now, more than San/Ace, but see how it plays out over the beginning of the day before you make any final decisions. I've helped to lynch two town roles by accident already, and right now I'm not entirely convinced about Jackal being scum. If I'm wrong about that and what the scum-team is too, I'm probably the dumbest green who ever greened, but whatever. I'm also just working on the information I have now, and nothing more, so take this post like that. If I'm still alive in the morning, then this should all be disregarded as I'll have new information to re-evaluate everything. I just wanted to share my thoughts right now, because I have a gut feeling I'm getting shot, and wanted to get them out there, rather than have them die with me. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
![[image loading]](http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/9c526e918902b35a048c09a6979155c5/NYP2002061507.jpg) Day 4 BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS The Terror Watch continues. With the death of Osama Bin Laden, many of us had hoped that the terror cell would give up and turn themselves in, or at least cease their terrorist activities. However, it seems that his death has only hardened their resolve. VarpuliS was found dead in his home; his throat was slashed open, and "Death to America" was written in blood on the walls. Clearly, the terror menace is still here, in force. VarpuliS' funeral will be held today at 3:00 p.m. It will be a closed-casket ceremony, and everyone is invited to attend. For all of us here at Channel 4 News, this is iGrok. Stay Safe. VarpuliS the Townie is dead. Day ends at 05:00 GMT (+00:00) May 6th. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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Ace
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Ace
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we need to hear from Brown Bear | ||
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Impervious
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On May 04 2011 10:39 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Impervious, why would you give scum a guide on who would not give town information by dying before scum has sent in their kill? Why? So we could know what to expect for today. | ||
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Impervious
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On May 04 2011 13:06 Ace wrote: By the way I didn't get any messages last night. That's pretty unfortunate. Although, that may also be because the GF didn't send a message out. If so, that could end up helping us. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4211 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:29 Impervious wrote: Why? So we could know what to expect for today. I need to expand on this. So far, the mafia seems to have done a pretty good job with their hits. All I did was point out what was most likely to happen. And it leaves me with the following conclusion (thank you for actually hitting him btw mafia) There's 4 town left. I'm convinced now that Ace and sandroba are blues. I'm green. That leaves 1 other townie who I'm not too sure of. With how Jackal has played (especially his hostile and not very well thought out replies), I'm 100% convinced he's scum. Quite possibly GF. darmousseh/BrownBear has lurked hardocre, and jumped on the bandwagon against town players pretty easily, so I'm fairly certain that he's also red. This leaves 1 mafia I'm not too sure of. The two players left are Wiggles and Eiii. Of the two, Wiggles seems to be most pro-town, so that would make Eiii the last mafia, by default. So, my scum list at the moment is Jackal (probably GF), Eiii, and BrownBear. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
But we need to hear from Brownbear aka Lurkerbear first. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4211 Posts
On May 04 2011 13:42 Impervious wrote: I need to expand on this. So far, the mafia seems to have done a pretty good job with their hits. All I did was point out what was most likely to happen. And it leaves me with the following conclusion (thank you for actually hitting him btw mafia) There's 4 town left. I'm convinced now that Ace and sandroba are blues. I'm green. That leaves 1 other townie who I'm not too sure of. With how Jackal has played (especially his hostile and not very well thought out replies), I'm 100% convinced he's scum. Quite possibly GF. darmousseh/BrownBear has lurked hardocre, and jumped on the bandwagon against town players pretty easily, so I'm fairly certain that he's also red. This leaves 1 mafia I'm not too sure of. The two players left are Wiggles and Eiii. Of the two, Wiggles seems to be most pro-town, so that would make Eiii the last mafia, by default. So, my scum list at the moment is Jackal (probably GF), Eiii, and BrownBear. Now I feel like I need to elaborate on that sentence. Varp was one of the people I had a hard time pegging. He was quick to switch votes off of players who were scummy, and I had 2nd thoughts about him, much like how Wiggles wasn't sure about him. With him gone, even though he was town, it's one less person I was having a hard time getting a read off of, and makes it easier for me to believe that Wiggles is town at the same time. Now, the other reason for wanting him gone is actually because it would guarantee that Wiggles and Ace were still kicking. Since I'm pretty sure that both are town, having both around to do some analysis is far better than losing one of them. I haven't played a game with Varp before, but even if I was pretty sure that I'd prefer Ace and Wiggles on my side as well. If the mafia were going to target someone else, their choices would be Ace (veteran player + intercepting messages), Wiggles (gives less info about player alignment + veteran player), me (which wouldn't help them out much at all), or sandroba (which would be detrimental since it would basically confirm Ace as being town). Simply put, if it wasn't Varp dying tonight (if I'm right with who is scum and who is town), then it would have been Wiggles or Ace. And I want both around. Yes, my post yesterday was scummy. That was completely intentional. Now I am pretty sure that I can peg the remaining mafia. | ||
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Impervious
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Ace
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Jackal is a prime suspect and I'm pretty sure this is LYLO. Problem is we can't lynch him because Brownbear who promised to post something has followed in the footsteps of darm. We'll probably be better off lynching Jackal anyway since he's scummier than the lurker at this point. I actually think between you, myself, sandroba and Wiggles we've got a decent core of "likely townies" to work from. Our best assumption is to operate on this belief and try to find Scum out of the Jackal, Eiii, Brownbear set. Then from there work on the group of us remaining 4 if we find enough Scum in that group. Otherwise I'm pretty sure the game is over. To sum up this is our working set: {Impervious, Ace, sandroba, Mr.Wiggles} {Jackal58, BrownBear, Eiii} The 2nd group has 2 lurkers and 1 active player. Our group has 3 active posters and 1 lurker who has a solid claim. I think we have to go after the 2nd group and take our chances there. | ||
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