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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 23:09 GMT
#650
Sandroba isn't in Survivor mafia, iirc, but he might have been reading through it, it's true.

Analysis of Jackal coming soon, as requested.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 23:43 GMT
#653
Jackal58

Analysis skipped. After reading through the thread, specifically the last 10 pages, I'm starting to get more of a town vibe from Jackal. He didn't support the bum lynch, and although his opinion about ace/sandroba differs from my own, he's got a good point. I was just sort of calling him scum for disagreeing with me, mostly, and seeing scumtells where there were none. Very bad play on my part.

Now I've got to figure out who the scum actually are. Jackal as scum makes all my assumptions work out, but if he's town then at least one and probably more of my previous reads is dead wrong. Take that stuff with a large grain of salt, folks.

For now, my vote goes back to guess who? Darmousseh.

##Unvote: Jackal58
##Vote: darmousseh
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 23:48 GMT
#654
Oops, I forgot all the breadcrumbs. nvm, Jackal is definitely scum.
+ Show Spoiler +
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 05:31 GMT
#657
Oh boy. Please be more active, BrownBear.

Off to bed for me now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#682
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but the situation that we're at is that we don't know who's lying about their role. If we could get a little more information (I.e., a strategic lynch on somebody to confirm players as townie/mafia) we could peg at least one, if now two scum within the next two days. I'm assuming we have 1 mislynch left.

Ace claims Undercover Agent, sandroba claims vet. If one is telling the truth, both are, but if one is lying, then both are. Lynching either would confirm the other as either town or scum.

Tnkted's role is almost too good to be true. What makes me less suspicious of him than of Ace + sand is that he claimed after all of the DT's died. now, if we decide to check him, our only method will be to lynch him, which will validate his claim. I say we leave him for later. Lynching him would give us no new information.

Jackal58: I'm looking scummy now for jumping on his bandwagon because he disagreed with me, but I'm starting to see his point (because the CL told me to ) He has claimed townie (i'm going to assume). Lynching him would practically confirm Ace/Sandroba as town or scum

Eiii needs to speak up before I lynch him for being too quiet. His lynch would contribute nothing

Darmousseh might have had some RL stuff, I'm going to wait for BB to finish reading the thread and start contributing. If he doesn't start contributing, I'm still up for lynching him. Again, no information would be gained from his lynch

Mr. Wiggles + Impervious must be watched closely in case ace flips Undercover Agent when/if we lynch him.

This is probably incomplete. I left myself out, for one thing, because I'm obviously biased. I'm thinking we should pick our lynch today based off of the information the flip would give us.

Any thoughts?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 20:49 GMT
#684
EBWOP:
On May 03 2011 05:43 VarpuliS wrote:
If we could get a little more information (I.e., a strategic lynch on somebody to confirm players as townie/mafia) we could peg at least one, if now not two scum within the next two days. I'm assuming we have 1 mislynch left.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 20:53 GMT
#685
I like that analysis of Ace's clues with consideration to his alignment, Wiggles. I'm going to assume that there are three scum left. (it could be only two, but I doubt that there are 4. 6 scum in a 15 person game seems like way too many to me) Right now I'm in support of a Jackal lynch more than anything else because it would give us a lot of information if he flips town, and he could very well be scum, which would be good for town irregardless of information.

If he's scum, then Ace and sand are town, and we can start looking more carefully at Ace's clues.

If he's CL, we'll have struck gold, and we'll have plenty to analyze base off of his previous posting.

If he's town, then we throw the one-two punch and lynch Ace and Sandroba back-to-back.

##Unvote: Brownbear (darmousseh)
##Vote: Jackal58


I'm back on you, jackal, but with better reasons this time.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 21:23 GMT
#688
This might not be relevant at all, but he's had this set up for basically the entire game.
On April 25 2011 12:21 tnkted wrote:
Everyone disregard this (crumbing for later):
DSBETNLBNTF



Down-on-your-luck Stock Broker
Everything was going you way in the mid 2000s. Then the economy tanked, you lost most of your wealth, and your wife divorced you and took what was left! Now you are stuck roaming the streets of Liquidville. Because you are homeless, everyone in town is suspicious of you – investigations on you will always return “Not Town”. Fortunately for you, though, at night you can disappear into the alleyways, making it impossible to find (and then shoot) you!


DSBETNLBNTF. The capital letters of the PM match the breadcrumb he left. Either this is a genius fake, or he was smart and gave us a way to confirm him.

His role is so strange that more explanation is neccesary than "you went to war, you've got an extra life" iGrok might as well have just pm'd sandroba
You are a veteran, you have an extra night life


That would not have been possible for tnkted. also, this is a role that iGrok invented, it seems. it makes sense that he would put more effort into it than sandroba's run-of-the-mill veteran role.

Ace, could you post your pm too for comparison?

I think that there's less reason to lynch tnkted than there is to lynch Jackal, plain and simple. I'm not lynching jackal just for the information, sand. I think that there's a genuine chance that he could be scum, just like everybody else. The difference is that if i'm wrong, i'll have a much better idea who to lynch next.

If tnkted wants to derail the Jackal vote, doesn't it make more sense to vote for jackal anyways? Because if he is, they're both scum, and I've already pointed out why Jackal makes a very smart lynch in the case that he's scum.

Don't you want to confirm yourself, sand?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#689
Reposting for emphasis: Ace, could you please post your pm so that we can compare it to tnkted's and sandroba's?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 21:53 GMT
#692
I agree, the coloring in the title is strange. I'm ignoring the mistake in the pm, because the host is only human, and browsers don't check for grammatical errors (believe me, they not do)

iGrok might have felt the need to clarify because the role isn't in the OP. That's my theory, anyways. I just realized that ex-marine isn't in the op either, so nvm, it is weird.

There wasn't any coloring in my pm either, but then again, it was just the townie role from the role list (minus the bold and the green). That's why I'm asking Ace to post his, for comparison.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 23:24 GMT
#700
I didn't follow insane II, so I was unaware that his has been done before. That in adition to the disparity between his pm and those of Sandroba and Ace (colored role instead of capslocked) makes me mighty suspicious of him.

Thinking about the role objectively, why would a miller need to be bulletproof anyway? If the mafia is stupid enough to kill him, it's their loss.

Why would you lurk so much if you knew that you couldn't get hit at night? Wouldn't you try to be as town friendly as possible so that mafia would try to kill you? Instead he says "i'm being quiet so that dt's don't check me."

His role is an excuse to lurk... and you all know how much Jackal and I have lurkers. I'm switching to tnkted, but BrownBear had better post soon, or else i'm switching.

we're probably going to get the information that we need from the nightkill, so we might as well lynch the scummiest player today.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 23:45 GMT
#702
Vote tallies:

Ace: 0
Impervious
Jackal58

Jackal58 1
Impervious
VarpuliS

Brownbear(Darmousseh) 2
VarpuliS
Ace
Mr. Wiggles.

Mr. Wiggles 1
tnkted

tnkted 3
sandroba
Jackal58
VarpuliS

tnkted is to be lynched with 3 votes. Voting ends in 4 hours and 15 minutes.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 23:49 GMT
#703
oh, also BrownBear and Eiii still haven't voted yet.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 03 2011 00:22 GMT
#708
Alright, I'm voting for brownbear now because if he gets modkilled and we mislynch it's probably gg after the mafia kills tonight. I hope he shows up, because I think that there are better people to lynch today.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 03 2011 02:29 GMT
#714
Ace's pm matched san's in terms of role name (CAPS, no color). You say you're almost sure about your list, but you also say that you're suspicious of Ace not being green/town aligned.

Why is Wiggles scum? How about Jackal? I'd like some reasons that don't involve inconclusive DT checks or vague breadcrumbs.

How do you know that it's lylo? unless mafia started out with 6, which I doubt, lylo is tomorrow at the earliest. They don't win unless they OUTNUMBER the town. read the OP.

If we mislynch today and BB gets modkilled, we instalose unless the mafia have less people left than we thought.

I'm calling scum. FoS for tomorrow.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 03 2011 03:39 GMT
#716
are we roleclaiming now? Cool.
Original Message From iGrok:
You will be replacing in for why. Here is your role:

HONEST CITIZEN:
You are a peaceful citizen of Liquidville. How could a terrorist cell ever appear in your town?! Your goal is to survive and help town discover and kill the Sleeper Cell. You have a single vote by day.

glhf ^^


Notice how it's exactly the same as in the OP, sans the the green and the bold. From the OP:
On April 08 2011 14:51 iGrok wrote:
HONEST CITIZEN:
You are a peaceful citizen of Liquidville. How could a terrorist cell ever appear in your town?! Your goal is to survive and help town discover and kill the Sleeper Cell. You have a single vote by day.

Your role isn't even in CAPS, because that would mess with your little breadcrumb, wouldn't it?

I was hesitant before, but with Wiggle's vote we can lynch this liar now.
##Unvote: BrownBear
##Vote: tnkted


BB, please show up in time to avoid the modkill. We could all do without another one.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 03 2011 04:00 GMT
#717
Well, bye bye BrownBear, you actually managed to be less active than the person you replaced, congradulations.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 03 2011 04:06 GMT
#719
f5f5f5f5f5
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 03 2011 04:14 GMT
#724
dammit
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 03 2011 04:15 GMT
#725
g'night guys.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
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