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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#567
I'll support a lynch on ace tomorrow.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 04:03 GMT
#573
On May 01 2011 13:00 GGQ wrote:
f5

lol
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 04:08 GMT
#576
I guess this was the purpose of the setup, wasn't it? Scum can kill scum, imperfect information and all. Nice break for town. We've got enough breathing room now for another mislynch or a vigi hit.

I still think that killing off Darm would be very beneficial to town.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 04:21 GMT
#583
Interesting... So what happened to the scum's nk? Do we have a medic after all? Tnkted, now would be a good time to tell us that hidden role of yours, I think.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 04:27 GMT
#588
Mafia didn't stack with Ace, because that would override the vigi hit, and he would get his bullet back.

Tnkted stated earlier that he wanted to attract a hit, and that he was planning to claim in the thread. It looks like his gambit worked, at this point.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 11:54 GMT
#596
Finally somebody who agrees with me!

I'm waiting for Darm's analysis and Ace's roleclaim, as well as whoever was hit claiming it, before I make my decision.

As of now, I've got a lurker square in my sights.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 13:30 GMT
#599
@Vain: sit out XXXIX, it's about to start.

@Jackal: Let's wait and see. I'm expecting a full claim from ace, somebody to claim they got hit, and possibly a claim from Tnkted. If nobody claims that they took a hit, then I will agree with you that Ace's claim is bullshit. Plenty of people are still sleeping now, I assume, so it'd be best to wait until all of the facts are on the table before coming to conclusions.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 15:46 GMT
#603
@tnkted: Did you get hit last night?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 17:05 GMT
#607
Okay then, now we've got some information. Sandroba's vet claim backs up Ace's vigi claim, so as of now I'm inclined to believe both of them.
On May 01 2011 16:40 darmousseh wrote:
yay! I didn't die on day/night 1. I'm so happy Tomorrow I'm going to write out my analysis of the game so far.

I'm still waiting. If this doesn't get posted soon he's a priority lynch for me.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 17:17 GMT
#609
On May 02 2011 02:13 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 02:05 VarpuliS wrote:
Okay then, now we've got some information. Sandroba's vet claim backs up Ace's vigi claim, so as of now I'm inclined to believe both of them.
On May 01 2011 16:40 darmousseh wrote:
yay! I didn't die on day/night 1. I'm so happy Tomorrow I'm going to write out my analysis of the game so far.

I'm still waiting. If this doesn't get posted soon he's a priority lynch for me.

Unless they are both scum.

Fair point, I'll have to think this over.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 17:22 GMT
#610
Impervious: What's with the voting without posting in the thread? Let us know what you're thinking, please.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 17:52 GMT
#617
Jackal, that paranoia is counting against you now.

##Vote: Jackal58

Ace is pretty convincing, and it find it unlikely that both he and sandroba are scum. Ace's logic and explanation for his hit on GGQ are solid, and sandroba's been pretty pro-town, imo. That leaves Jackal seeming pretty accusatory and suspicious.

Jackal, I don't remember you ever being a big target for scum. Maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention.

Ace is likely to die tonight, because he's going to keep intercepting messages from the Cell Leader until they kill him. Lynching him would be stupider than lynching bum was.

I haven't forgotten about you Darm, you'd still better post that analysis.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 17:58 GMT
#620
His plan and analysis was to roleclaim because he got an inconclusive result that could have been because of a 25% chance RNG.

It was stupid and pretty scummy, to tell the truth. I don't agree with his lynch either, though.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 18:25 GMT
#622
Vain has been modkilled. Are there other lurkers left who I don't know about?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 18:29 GMT
#624
Not only has Darm been lurking, but the few posts that he's made have been sheeping and bandwagoning.

+ Show Spoiler [previous analysis] +
On April 30 2011 07:04 VarpuliS wrote:
##Vote: Darmousseh

Hardcore lurker here. Has contributed practically nothing. His posts:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 15:02 darmousseh wrote:
Hi guys, last three games i either died or got lynched day 1, please don't, i'm town and I want to help town out.

Also FOS on anyone suggesting that we use vigilante right away as we have zero information right now.

That is all for now.

He's town and he wants to help town... by not contributing anything. Very helpful /sarcasm
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 15:04 darmousseh wrote:
On April 25 2011 11:41 Vain wrote:
On April 25 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Well Gman. Since it appears that only you and I are playing and I know what I am huge fos on you.
In other words I'm going to bed.


Hey, i'm still here too. Am going to bed now BECAUSE ITS 5 AM HERE

btw, maby dt's should double check if they get that not info sufficient thingy if they have enough time and the player looks trusted. oh well, we'll see how it plays out. Goodnight!



Vain, I hope you aren't a dt because that is the most obvious blue tell ever in my opinion.

How is this a blue tell? It's on day 1, and he's making a suggestion to the dt's. I'm not sure how that makes him blue. Not super helpful.
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 16:10 darmousseh wrote:
On April 25 2011 15:33 sandroba wrote:
EBWOP: I also agree that pointing out vigilantes is not a blue tell, but neither is the post he quoted, which is basically the same thing. If he thinks that what vain did is a blue tell he wouldn't do it if he was blue. He would only do it if he wants to appear to be blue.



I did it because it's the biggest blue tell in the world.


"Hey guys, let's dt check someone, don't mind me". It's just bad play, that's it. I have no FoS on him, i'm just saying that if he is dt, then we are screwed because mafia would probably pick that up faster than I did.

For this very reason, I recommend a dt checks vein because if he isn't the dt, then he's probably scum with the whole "don't mind me" phrase.

Please note that the post of vain's that he quoted above was the only post vain had made. There's not evidence here that I'm ignoring. Still not sure how vain slipped that he was dt. This is a small contribution, there are flaws in the reasoning, and he never follows up on it.
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 01:33 darmousseh wrote:
On April 26 2011 01:16 Rean wrote:
On April 26 2011 00:43 Ace wrote:
Good job Rean, contribute more please. You're path to the lynch wagon won't take long with shit posts like that.

Post your lists or at least give some damn good reasons why this is useless.


How about you give us a reason as to why this is NOT a waste of time? How is knowing what everyone would pick in the hypothetical situation they're GF getting us anywhere close to catching scum?



I'm in agreement with rean, this doesn't seem like it will help at all. It's better to just try to analyze behavior and get information. It is different than normal mafia, but tells shouldn't be any different than a normal game. The biggest difference is that the mafia can't bus anyone and they are likely to be as sheepy as the rest of town and so it will be difficult to determine scum behavior off of voting patterns only.

Ace has already explained their purpose, so I won't again, but part of the idea was to get people talking. Darmousseh never posted a list.
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 00:58 darmousseh wrote:
I like Gmarshal's post about wiggles, but I would take it farther since his posts seem suspect. Obviously I won't believe his list for sleeper agents, but I can take a guess that mr wiggles is probably scum.

##Vote: Mr. Wiggles

I can't seem to find the post that he's referring to. This is sheeping though, and not a good contribution. I'm assuming that GMarshal was just pressuring Wiggles for inactivity, because he removed the vote promptly. Nobody ever argued that wiggles was scum (up until that point in the game at least)
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 02:20 darmousseh wrote:
On April 27 2011 02:13 Zorkmid wrote:
EBWOP:
Another thought Maybe Tkdted is seeking the protection of a possible medic role?


It's pretty obvious what he is, but apparently calling out people when they make themselves too obvious to the mafia is frowned upon. People need to stop making so many tells, seriously.

What is he? I didn't catch that. He just said "my role is weird" I'm not sure about the tells thing. Darm seems to see them everywhere.

That's all! No contribution, no analysis, just filler posts agreeing with other people or being paranoid about blues. Step it up.


This still stands. His only post after is:
On April 30 2011 10:56 darmousseh wrote:
i don't really have time to play this game. voting bumatlarge

An excuse and a bandwagon.

On May 01 2011 16:40 darmousseh wrote:
yay! I didn't die on day/night 1. I'm so happy Tomorrow I'm going to write out my analysis of the game so far.

Promise for an analysis that he still hasn't posted.

He's not an urgent lynch, but he's not helping the town. I'm torn right now between him and Jackal.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 18:33 GMT
#625
EBWOP:
His only posts after is are:
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 20:45 GMT
#634
Jackal, your defense is basically just saying that if he was town aligned, he would have hit you and not GGQ.

Can I get the reasoning behind that? Seriously, I feel like I'm missing something here. You claim townie, yet you say that because you didn't die, Ace's Undercover Agent claim is fake because he claims to have killed GGQ, even though GGQ was scum.

Refusing to accept the claim as well as the supporting evidence behind it and making what is basically an OMGUS vote makes me ever the more suspicious of you.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 20:47 GMT
#635
To clarify: Ace having used his role to it's potential means that he's faking the role. great logic /sarcasm.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 21:32 GMT
#643
Whoever thought of that role is an evil genius.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 22:39 GMT
#645
We've got relatively few players left at this point, and all the information I expected to get today is on the table, so I'm going to post my general reads on everybody, in case anyone was wondering.

Impervious: He's a little suspicious because of his eagerness to side with bum + the breadcrumb Ace intercepted, but I'm getting a town vibe from him, and his posts have been generally constructive and town friendly, if you discount a few early game spam posts/1 liners.

Jackal58: He handled the bumatlarge accusation well, but his response to Ace's claim has been very suspicious to me. Looking through his previous posts, I get a scummy vibe. I could go through post-by-post and elaborate if people really want me too, but in the interest of time I'll just leave it at that for now.

Mr. Wiggles: He was quite quiet early on, but his activity rose sharply after his finals ended, and he's been posting with quality and frequency since then. I'm calling this strong town play.

Ace: I'm inclined to believe Ace's roleclaim, because the evidence fits and his logic and reasoning are solid. I don't agree with the lynch on bum which he spearheaded, but bum could easily have been scum, and the illogic and stupidity of his DT claim didn't help his case. Also, Sandroba's vet claim supports Ace's claim.

Eiii: Lurking. Not town friendly. Occasionally pops in with a post, but has made some questionable decisions, and isn't being helpful to the town. Not much more to say about him, because he hasn't given me much to analyze.

VarpuliS: I'm pretty sure that I'm town. Still on the fence though. I'll post later with an update + Show Spoiler +
jkjkjkjk


tnkted: His actions make a lot of sense now seeing as his role is a miller who can absorb infinity nightkills. He wanted to attract hits with his blueclaim early on but stay inconspicous enough that DT's wouldn't check him. I'm buying that role. It's just as weird as he said, and I understand now why he didn't claim it earlier.

darmousseh: This dude is lurking so hardcore that he's worse than useless. He's just an extra vote for the bandwagon, and a player who we need to get rid of soon. Either today or tomorrow, we need to lynch him before lylo. I cannot stress that enough. Also, he never posted the analysis he promised to.

Sandroba: His vet claim makes a lot of sense, considering the events of last night. He's been quite pro-town with his posting, but then again I only skimmed the first half of them because I don't need further convincing. Maybe I'm just naive.

And that just about wraps it up! One of those names is almost definitely mislabeled, and it's probably either Impervious or Eiii, because one of the two of them is almost certainly the third mafia member.

For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
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