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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 27 2011 03:11 Ace wrote: Did you conveniently forget to read the post right above you? No I answered your question before I scrolled through the rest of the thread. Forgive me for being fallible. I answered your question with a question. Which quoted post were you talking about? Or are you being conveniently obtuse? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 27 2011 03:28 Jackal58 wrote: And just to be clear I am not asking tnkted to role claim. I want to know why he felt compelled to bring it up pre game just to say "Let's just forget this" Wtf do people do that for? Well on that I somewhat agree. My only issue with him was the fact that he claimed it as a bread crumb when there is no such thing as a public bread crumb. If you guys have an issue with that it makes more sense imo than getting upset over a supposed role claim that didn't happen. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4210 Posts
On April 27 2011 03:17 Zorkmid wrote: Strategy to make the DTs waste checks on you perhaps? Not exactly a town friendly move, is it? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 27 2011 04:27 Ace wrote: Because I feel you are the most scummy player in the game so far. Why else would I vote for you? Can you substantiate why you feel that way? I'd really like to hear the reasoning behind why you think he is the most likely to be scum. Oh, and Eiii and all the other lurkers, post more before I get annoyed | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 27 2011 04:27 Ace wrote: Because I feel you are the most scummy player in the game so far. Why else would I vote for you? And what makes me scummy? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
I haven't made semi claims and posts proclaiming I have a secret but I'm not telling. I have answered any questions asked of me. Except for you know the vague one you asked me and never clarified. I'm not lurking. What have I done that is scummy? Disagree with you? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 26 2011 23:37 Jackal58 wrote: We have about 12 hours remaining until day is up. So it's time we begin to decide who is going to be our first lynch. I really hate day 1 in these games. I pretty much suck at the beginning of these. That said though I do think tnkted has made a few posts that need to be clarified by him. Let's start with this one. So if it's in towns best interest to drop it why did you bring it up? The subject did not arise due to a slip in conversation or an argument. You flat out stated you had a strange role: And then continued again: And he also tries to assure GM that the cell leader can't possibly have gone out yet. But for all we know he may have laid out the first part of his breadcrumbing to his team mates in pregame posts. He doesn't want to discuss it yet it was an intentional slip/slide/red herring/breadcrumb or whatever you want to call it. Now this post: Everybody disregard my bread crumb? Don't look for breadcrumbs? Don't look for scumtells? I didn't sign up for basket weaving tnkted. Wtf should we do? And lastly Seems to know how the CL is going to operate. Then tells us to ignore any DT checks we may get. I am not the greatest analyzer in this game. Far from it. It is also day one so the body of work we all have to go on is minimal. However these posts from tnkted all seem to carry the same anti-town feel to them. If I'm way off the mark please show me. Until then my vote is going on tnkted. Sorry twinkles. First lets us realize that as of the first line of his post Jackal's insistence is that we should find our Day 1 lynch. My issue here is that tnkted's announcement of a strange role is being put out there as if it's scummy when it isn't. It's not anti-town, it's not scummy - it's just bad play. Now when I posted my list earlier about the 3 people who I'd contact I listed Jackal and my reasoning was that he doesn't suck. Which means I think more often than not he can recognize bad town play over scum play and imo this is an obvious case of it. + Show Spoiler [2nd posts] + On April 27 2011 02:32 Jackal58 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 25 2011 07:36 tnkted wrote: Yep, got mine too. This is going to be an interesting game, I got a strange role. On April 25 2011 07:41 tnkted wrote: Lol GM, the cell leader's messages can't possibly have gone out yet, the game hasn't even started yet. I'm not crumbing, I'm just honestly stating that my role is strange. Here: WEIRD ROLE, DUDES On April 25 2011 07:47 tnkted wrote:It makes perfect sense once you see the role. I might actually claim pretty early this game. Debating the merits of it. ???? I'd also like to know the point of your exercise. This was from the previous page when I asserted that tnkted never role claimed and Jackal quoted some of his posts that didn't show that he did. Pretty much this is either Scum behavior or Jackal mixing up tnkted's bad play with Scum play. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 27 2011 04:40 Ace wrote: + Show Spoiler [1st posts] + On April 26 2011 23:37 Jackal58 wrote: We have about 12 hours remaining until day is up. So it's time we begin to decide who is going to be our first lynch. I really hate day 1 in these games. I pretty much suck at the beginning of these. That said though I do think tnkted has made a few posts that need to be clarified by him. Let's start with this one. So if it's in towns best interest to drop it why did you bring it up? The subject did not arise due to a slip in conversation or an argument. You flat out stated you had a strange role: And then continued again: And he also tries to assure GM that the cell leader can't possibly have gone out yet. But for all we know he may have laid out the first part of his breadcrumbing to his team mates in pregame posts. He doesn't want to discuss it yet it was an intentional slip/slide/red herring/breadcrumb or whatever you want to call it. Now this post: Everybody disregard my bread crumb? Don't look for breadcrumbs? Don't look for scumtells? I didn't sign up for basket weaving tnkted. Wtf should we do? And lastly Seems to know how the CL is going to operate. Then tells us to ignore any DT checks we may get. I am not the greatest analyzer in this game. Far from it. It is also day one so the body of work we all have to go on is minimal. However these posts from tnkted all seem to carry the same anti-town feel to them. If I'm way off the mark please show me. Until then my vote is going on tnkted. Sorry twinkles. First lets us realize that as of the first line of his post Jackal's insistence is that we should find our Day 1 lynch. My issue here is that tnkted's announcement of a strange role is being put out there as if it's scummy when it isn't. It's not anti-town, it's not scummy - it's just bad play. Now when I posted my list earlier about the 3 people who I'd contact I listed Jackal and my reasoning was that he doesn't suck. Which means I think more often than not he can recognize bad town play over scum play and imo this is an obvious case of it. + Show Spoiler [2nd posts] + On April 27 2011 02:32 Jackal58 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 25 2011 07:36 tnkted wrote: Yep, got mine too. This is going to be an interesting game, I got a strange role. On April 25 2011 07:41 tnkted wrote: Lol GM, the cell leader's messages can't possibly have gone out yet, the game hasn't even started yet. I'm not crumbing, I'm just honestly stating that my role is strange. Here: WEIRD ROLE, DUDES On April 25 2011 07:47 tnkted wrote:It makes perfect sense once you see the role. I might actually claim pretty early this game. Debating the merits of it. ???? I'd also like to know the point of your exercise. This was from the previous page when I asserted that tnkted never role claimed and Jackal quoted some of his posts that didn't show that he did. Pretty much this is either Scum behavior or Jackal mixing up tnkted's bad play with Scum play. Was not an insistence. You make it sound as though I was making demands. I put forth a suggestion. There was very little activity in the thread. I jump started it. I chose the most erratic seeming player (in my opinion) to look at. I freely admitted I suck at analysis and asked for the opinions of others. I got one opinion from GM and a rather odd post from you. You said tnkted never role claimed or hinted at one. Your words not mine. So I quoted 3 posts of his that absolutely hinted at a role claim. So I put forth some analysis admitting I'm not very good at it. Point out an error you made in your assertion of tnkted not even hinting at a role claim and I'm scum? I've been trying really really hard to shake this reputation I have of being a tunneler. I'm trying really really hard to develop an ability to do analysis. All I have received for my efforts in my last game and this one is labeled scum on day one. If that's the way it's going to be fuck it I'll just tunnel people.  | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
I know I've said this many times before, but I think our best call today is to lynch a lurker, with a non-unifed mafia it also means they have no way of knowing if they are lynching a buddy, which makes it much less likely to be misdirected than the usual attempts at day 1 inactive lynches. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Eiii Kenpachi GGQ all three of these are actively lurking and not contributing or trying to scumhunt, this is where I think mafia is trying to hide themselves, and even if we end up lynching a townie, it ends up encouraging more active posting from these people as far as zorkmid goes, my opinion on him is neutral atm, I think he might be a little overwhelmed by the number of new names, and he has a decent number of posts compared to those three, so I'm willing to give him a day to slip up if he is scum. My vote is already on Eiii, so I'm going to keep it on there for now. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
Of your list of three lurkers up there, GGQ is the most suspicious to me atm-- I remember him being fairly active in XXXVIII and very active in Insane 2, but so far he's made four posts, two of which have been about the rules/setup. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 27 2011 05:03 GMarshal wrote: Sorry Ace, but I think your analysis is faulty, I don't see Jackal as being scum atm. It could be my relative inexperience, or it might just be that we disagree on that, but I think that at the moment jackal is a terrible lynch, at the very least he is being vocal, which is much, much more than what we can say for many of the players in this thread. I know I've said this many times before, but I think our best call today is to lynch a lurker, with a non-unifed mafia it also means they have no way of knowing if they are lynching a buddy, which makes it much less likely to be misdirected than the usual attempts at day 1 inactive lynches. Ok then well for now we'll just agree to disagree. I'm not sold on lynching lurkers yet. I feel as if we've got more than enough information in 15 pages to do some suitable scum hunting. In a few hours I'll post my information. By then the people that haven't answered my questions probably won't. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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