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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:11 tnkted wrote: OFFTOPIC: LOL. dude, i was searching for that post in insane 2 and i couldn't find it, you don't happen to remember what page it was on do you? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200702¤tpage=144#2877 this? /end offtopic | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:10 tnkted wrote: it wouldn't matter who I sent my 3 to, I'd just have to write: "Twinkle Twinkle Little Scum 3rd" and they'd know who I am. Technically, theres no reason that scum needs to know who their buddies are if they know who the CL is. The CL can use them like a conductor, posting a scumlist or an analysis that triggers the agents to pick a certain person, perhaps the person third in the list or something (ie the 3rd from above). So I'll be watching scumlists to see if anybody dies from that. IMO, the cell leader is going to be posting with the best of us this game. He's got to blend in more than anyone, and since he's godfather he's immune to checks. I'm guessing that the first time the DTs 'insufficently' checks a vig and the vig is lynched, we're going to be a lot less likely to lynch on results from DTs. I have no idea what "Twinkle Twinkle Little Scum 3rd" even refers to. Either way can you just answer the question? It does matter. | ||
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
youre discussing how the gf can crumb in his messages WHEN THATS USELESS TO TOWN. seriously, we dont give a fuck how they crumb because we wont find out about it anyway if mafia is even half-decent. and now you're even making cutesy lists on who you would message if you were the GF? STOP BEING USELESS. seriously, you people are randomly discussing things that don't get us anywhere. fos list so far: ace/tnkted/more idiots filling the thread with bullshit lists | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:18 Ace wrote: I have no idea what "Twinkle Twinkle Little Scum 3rd" even refers to. Either way can you just answer the question? It does matter. Rean "GG.org #mafia powerkid follow me" he'd understand why. Jackal "breadcrumb this, my beloved" obvious reasons, follow the link ^. GMarshal "wheels on bus go round" my bus driving skills in insane 2 are the stuff of legend. If i had to write specific messages. You wouldn't get the twinkle twinkle one because you weren't in insane 2, but almost everyone else will have picked that up. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:10 tnkted wrote: it wouldn't matter who I sent my 3 to, I'd just have to write: "Twinkle Twinkle Little Scum 3rd" and they'd know who I am. Technically, theres no reason that scum needs to know who their buddies are if they know who the CL is. The CL can use them like a conductor, posting a scumlist or an analysis that triggers the agents to pick a certain person, perhaps the person third in the list or something (ie the 3rd from above). So I'll be watching scumlists to see if anybody dies from that. IMO, the cell leader is going to be posting with the best of us this game. He's got to blend in more than anyone, and since he's godfather he's immune to checks. I'm guessing that the first time the DTs 'insufficently' checks a vig and the vig is lynched, we're going to be a lot less likely to lynch on results from DTs. I think I disagree with that. I think scum are doing a huge wtf do I do atm. It will be the end of day two at the earliest before they would all know who the GF is. That's assuming 4 sleepers. What do they do in the meantime? Would seem to me they'd have to pretty much hide. With possibly 1/3 of the players having a scum role they run a one in three chance of killing one of their team mates. I think it is most likely that we will see a players activity level increase a bit after he has been contacted by his Leader but even then he most likely will only know 1 member. I think I'm liking towns chances in this the more I think about it. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:29 Rean wrote: the fuck is this shit. youre discussing how the gf can crumb in his messages WHEN THATS USELESS TO TOWN. seriously, we dont give a fuck how they crumb because we wont find out about it anyway if mafia is even half-decent. and now you're even making cutesy lists on who you would message if you were the GF? STOP BEING USELESS. seriously, you people are randomly discussing things that don't get us anywhere. fos list so far: ace/tnkted/more idiots filling the thread with bullshit lists So, what would you like us to talk about then? Should we make an in depth discussion of the merits of lynching inactives? Or discuss what our blues should be doing? Of course we give a fuck of how mafia crumbs, we might be able to catch them at it! But still, what do you propose we do to STOP BEING USELESS? your FoS is reduced to "people are discussing things, I won't offer an alternative but get pissed at them for *talking* how *dare* they start discussing things!" So Rean, if you had the lynch right now who would you kill and why? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Post your lists or at least give some damn good reasons why this is useless. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:43 Ace wrote: Good job Rean, contribute more please. You're path to the lynch wagon won't take long with shit posts like that. Post your lists or at least give some damn good reasons why this is useless. Interestingly enough do you mind if I ask you a question? Why are these lists useful? I'd like to hear what reasoning went behind asking us to post these. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Rean, why, Kenpachi, Zorkmid, Vain, darmousseh, and GGQ still have to post their lists. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:48 GMarshal wrote: Interestingly enough do you mind if I ask you a question? Why are these lists useful? I'd like to hear what reasoning went behind asking us to post these. First thought that crossed my mind is he's the cell leader looking for us to do his breadcrumbing for him. But I'm willing to play along to see where he was going. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:51 Ace wrote: That will become clear soon, I'm just waiting for more lists. Rean, why, Kenpachi, Zorkmid, Vain, darmousseh, and GGQ still have to post their lists. They have yet to post at all. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:43 Ace wrote: Good job Rean, contribute more please. You're path to the lynch wagon won't take long with shit posts like that. Post your lists or at least give some damn good reasons why this is useless. How about you give us a reason as to why this is NOT a waste of time? How is knowing what everyone would pick in the hypothetical situation they're GF getting us anywhere close to catching scum? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
But ok sir critic, what should we do instead? | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On April 26 2011 01:16 Rean wrote: How about you give us a reason as to why this is NOT a waste of time? How is knowing what everyone would pick in the hypothetical situation they're GF getting us anywhere close to catching scum? I'm in agreement with rean, this doesn't seem like it will help at all. It's better to just try to analyze behavior and get information. It is different than normal mafia, but tells shouldn't be any different than a normal game. The biggest difference is that the mafia can't bus anyone and they are likely to be as sheepy as the rest of town and so it will be difficult to determine scum behavior off of voting patterns only. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 25 2011 21:51 sandroba wrote: I don't see any reason whatsoever to limit ourselves in our scumhunting methods. I sure that there are some players here that have skills in doing both. I would encourage everyone to do both 1 AND 2, at least in some form. There's no way to predict what form breadcrumbing will take, so let's not force analysis through a top down approach. I completely agree with method number 2 here. Behaviour analysis is going to be our main weapon, as always. As we get further into the game, it will become even easier to compare the behaviour of mafia from day1 and 2 when they most likely don't know each other to how they are acting on the next days (3+) which they most likely figured it out. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
I don't see any reason whatsoever to limit ourselves in our scumhunting methods. I sure that there are some players here that have skills in doing both. I would encourage everyone to do both 1 AND 2, at least in some form. There's no way to predict what form breadcrumbing will take, so let's not force analysis through a top down approach. I completely agree with method number 2 here. Behaviour analysis is going to be our main weapon, as always. As we get further into the game, it will become even easier to compare the behaviour of mafia from day1 and 2 when they most likely don't know each other to how they are acting on the next days (3+) which they most likely figured it out. edit by way of double post: Sorry all, the bolded part is what I typed in the previous message, should have previewed it.... | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:51 Ace wrote: That will become clear soon, I'm just waiting for more lists. Rean, why, Kenpachi, Zorkmid, Vain, darmousseh, and GGQ still have to post their lists. Ok, read through the whole thread, no idea what list it is that I have to post... | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 26 2011 02:13 Zorkmid wrote: Ok, read through the whole thread, no idea what list it is that I have to post... Imagine for a second you are the cell leader, who would you message and what would you tell them in that message? Pick 3 people ( assume in this imaginary world that anyone you choose to message is automatically a member of the mafia) . I think I can guess as to why Ace wants this, but we'll see, just play along with and post it. | ||
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