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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
March 27 2011 15:27 GMT
#30
/in! I want to play!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 01 2011 01:23 GMT
#80
Its thursday, when was BB posting something in Sports n Games? I wanted to read what all the noobies were saying.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 05 2011 01:15 GMT
#163
On April 04 2011 08:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 08:33 GMarshal wrote:
On April 04 2011 05:54 Barundar wrote:
Argh wth

/in

Day 1 lynch=jackal if he goes bowling on tuesday!

Barundar! Yay! If we are mafia together we should bus chaoser day 1

no we're busing coag


Nah you should bus lemon and the mayor

-_-
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 05 2011 01:16 GMT
#164
On April 05 2011 04:41 Serejai wrote:
I want to play~


SEREJAI! HI I DIDNT KNOW YOU PLAYED TL MAFIA

We're going to not talk to each other in sc2 if we play any games during this.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 06 2011 16:18 GMT
#189
Oh boy! I'm so excited!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 02:42 GMT
#214
Insane is done, perfect timing!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 15:50 GMT
#229
Cube I think you're too late, he already said that hes sending everything out today. You're stuck... playing mafia.

Oh, what a horrible fate!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 17:25 GMT
#233
THANKS FOOLISHNESS AND BC


[green]does midnight mean KST midnight or CST midnight or what?
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 22:39 GMT
#265
Are roles revealed on flip? I glanced over the OP but didn't see anything.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 22:46 GMT
#270
So the roles on the first post are the only roles that are in the game?
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 22:55 GMT
#275
On April 09 2011 07:44 GMarshal wrote:
Its regular flip I hope ^_^
There are no clueS and no mechaniCs to accoUnt for a no flip setup, so assuMe its flip on death




FREUDIAN SLIP?!
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 23:06 GMT
#281
Personally I kind of liked how insane was so busy so early because it gave a) a lot of material to analyze really early and b) made refreshing the page so exciting!

Makes total sense why everyone else doesn't like it. The all button sure is nice. Maybe someday we can get a mod make the all button disappear after 100 posts.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 09 2011 00:04 GMT
#298
How do most regular non-insane games start? With mayoral campaigns?
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 09 2011 01:25 GMT
#310
On April 09 2011 10:22 Coagulation wrote:
I dunno if its considered cheating but if i got something i need to say and im worried about being hit i will post my info at the last second so the mafia cant change hits based on it.
this is generally the safest route.


Yeah i did this several times in insane to prove that i was a townie.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 09 2011 02:46 GMT
#320
I should start sprinkling in some alignment PM flavoring in my posts...

Make mafia sweat a little...
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 09 2011 02:49 GMT
#322
Which of the following is in your PM?

1) "You are the MAFIA"
2) "Try to look clean or something"
3) "Justice.... law... Order..."
4) "Three banhammers"
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 09 2011 13:47 GMT
#342
On April 09 2011 21:24 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 08:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 09 2011 08:26 chaoser wrote:
DrH, who is this in your profile
[image loading]

oh i forgot about my profile

disney actress ryan newman

Who names their daughter Ryan? >.>


I think she was actually born a man and had a sex change.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 03:39 GMT
#464
I'm debating on whether or not I want to run... I had a pretty successful game last time but I'm not sure if I would make a better mayor than Kav or not.

I'm not sold on Kav being green quite yet however. After seeing his masterful black play last game I can easily see him pulling a fast one over on town. DrH's immediate tunneling is also making me suspicious of both players. Nothing definite yet, but I won't be voting for either.

No read on GM quite yet, not going to vote for him until I have one. GM if you want my vote you'll be analyzing people a lot more before vote time.

Day is 48 hours, yes?

Gonna do some initial reading of other players now. Right now Kav and DrH are my least favorite people.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:03 GMT
#469
On the contrary GM, anytime anyone posts something they reveal a lot about their motives. While you're right: there is not enough evidence for some conclusive conclusions to be drawn, there is enough posts from people to give us an idea about people's typical habits and to what players they are inclined to agree and disagree with. The fluidity of their arguments and alignment of their positions can tell you a lot of you know what you're doing.

For example, DrH and Kav already have a relationship. Its not a relationship that reveals much, but DrH has drawn extreme attention to himself and by extension, to Kav. I don't know much about DrH's meta, but unless he's doing some extreme stuff with attempting to provoke Kav into revealing something (ie, super high level play), he's either an aggressive player, a bad player, or scum. I'm not FOSing him or kav, but I'm learning things about both of them by how Kav is responding to DrH and how DrH is responding to those responses.

And that same analysis can be extended to other players, such as chaoser. I am focusing on him now.

'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:22 GMT
#477
On April 10 2011 13:18 Protactinium wrote:
[image loading]

I have an announcement to make. I am an Assassin. Give yourself a moment, and let that sink in. You may be thinking, "is this chump smoking something?" And you would be right. Alas, this profound post is not done out of insanity. Here's my offer: I get elected as Mayor or Pardoner (doesn't matter which one as I will explain below), and I give the town my rolecheck and 2 of my vigilante shots (saving the last to complete my win condition).

How does this benefit me? Simple. I don't die because of the bodyguards. Meanwhile, the other assassins have a strong chance of being shot at night or lynched on accident, and this is good for both myself and the town, since it decreases hostile KP. Because I'm protected, I don't need to have all of my powers with these advantages.

Now let's go through the possibilities, since I am sure very few of you are just going to believe me outright.

1. I am actually an Assassin.
2. I am mafia. You guys ask me to rolecheck on Night 2. Game over for me. Even if I guess it right, Mafia does not have extra KP this game, so extra shots can only come from Assassins/Vigilantes. Thus, this will be very obvious and a mafia will be sacrificed for nothing. There is zero motivation for me to do this.
3. I am some town role and on crack. Yay? Town wins.

The only negative possibility to the town is, what if I get planted in office and don't cooperate? Well, then I lose since town will just lynch me next day. I have no incentive not to cooperate unless I am about to win the game, in which case town doesn't lose anything.

Lastly, why did I do something as absurd as this?

Why not?

The Assassin role is boring, and this will surely make things interesting and let me make an impact on the game as a whole. I just need one shot to make sure I can fulfill my victory condition, and the town gets 2 KP, a rolecheck, and a person who they are 100% sure is not Mafia.

Obviously, as I am Assassin, I have no obligation to help the town outside of my powers. However, I do have an interest in helping the town do well because it's fun. Assassin on its own is not fun.

You don't have to believe me on what I'm saying. Take this as you will, but right now I'm making you an offer you can'tshouldn't refuse. Elect me, and the town gains an invaluable asset. Protactinium for Mayor/Pardoner.


Is it just me or was this extremely stupid?
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:25 GMT
#482
Yeah I'm down with offering some medic protect on him but there is absolutely no way that we can give him the mayorship. As people have said multiple times, we need somebody who can be a good leader. People look to the mayor. He has a PM circle. If mayor isn't town the position is entirely wasted.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:28 GMT
#488
Hmm... On the other hand this would give mafia incentive to be hunting for assassins as well...

question for the vets: in games with assassins are assassin targets typically reds or greens? ie, do most assassins act like classic red, with lurking and trying to avoid attention, or do they act like classic greens with analysis and debate?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:31 GMT
#491
Yeah we better make this clear:

when you vote, vote in both threads. that way we can see who voted for what.

not voting in this thread will be considered a scumtell, so be careful.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:38 GMT
#497
On April 10 2011 13:36 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 13:32 urashimakt wrote:
On April 10 2011 13:29 GMarshal wrote:
urashimakt, voting is done in a separate thread, but its tradition that we also vote in here to make it evident we are voitng, this way we avoid people ninja votingn and no one noticing till the lynch has gone through, sure votes here aren't counted, but they *Are* made evident to the rest of the players.

Make sense?

I saw that was the rule in XXXVIII, but it was specifically mentioned as being an unusual situation. In the rules here, it says to only place votes in the separate thread. I'm just looking out, BrownBear's the only one I'm going to trust to say otherwise. O_O


lol, there's no reason to lie about this...it's game mechanic...no reason to trick you. If a vote thread comes up we'll obviously vote in it. But it's good to also vote in here so people can see your vote attached to your name. Makes it

1) easier to analyse your vote
2) easier to see where on the timeline of the day you placed your vote


Also gives you an opportunity to explain your vote, which is ALWAYS helpful and you should be doing anyway if you're town.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:45 GMT
#501
Do mayor/bodyguards get a PM circle?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:53 GMT
#504
On March 26 2011 03:53 BrownBear wrote:


MEDIC:
You never really finished med school, but you do have a defibrillator and a first-aid kit! You may choose to visit one person every night. If you visit them and they are hit, you can use your defibrillator to revive them and your first-aid kit to patch them up. You can only block one hit, so stacked hits will still kill them. You may not protect yourself, as nobody has ever mastered the difficult art of defibrillating themselves once dead (hell, even James Bond had to get someone to do it for him).

'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 04:55 GMT
#506
On April 10 2011 13:54 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
This is a semi-open setup. Roles and their abilities will be disclosed, however role counts will not. Roles below may or may not be a part of this setup.

Touche.


Still, I think not having a medic would be pretty insane.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 05:12 GMT
#521
Watcher should watch Eiii tonight, but not post in the thread who the killer was. That way we have some serious incentive to keep pan on our side.

That said, I'm certainly not voting for Pan for mayor. Mayor is a late-game position... we need to keep those 3 votes in townie hands as long as physically possible.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#523
EBWOP: Er, pro. Sorry, thought his name was pandemic for a minute?
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 19:44 GMT
#687
We can't have protract be mayor. If he plays to his win condition at all, we're left with a mayor who people will constantly second-guess, whose three votes will almost certainly be countered by three switched votes from players who will vote the opposite way of him. In addition, the controversy his every vote will cause will give mafia an excellent opportunity to slip between the cracks and promote conflict in the town. Regardless of whether or not he is the best candidate, electing him would be extremely detrimental to town, if for no other reason than the fact that people are so divided over this.

Personally, I don't think he's actually demonstrated to me that hes really the assassin and not the GF framing himself black. If he's who he says he is, then he is absolutely capable of pulling such a trick over on us. Who could possibly counterclaim? Another assassin? They don't know if he's one of them or not. In fact, if I was the godfather and a vet, this is precisely the strategy I would use to get elected mayor. I'd tell everyone I am 'so sick of mafia, I just want to make this game fun' and I would rely on my reputation to convince people that I know what I'm doing. I think I made clear in the previous earlygame (insane 2) my opinion on relying on reputation when I opposed Kav's mayoral campaign.

However, he is a tried and proven player and an excellent analyzer. As such, I am tempted to keep him alive... but on a leash. He can't be in a position of power, but to lose such an excellent player this early in the game would be pretty painful.

Nonetheless, we are presented with an opportunity here. We have a known target. We can be 100% certain that if we don't elect Protract he is going to be hit tonight.

Tnkted's Plan

We don't elect Protract. Instead, we use him as bait.

Watcher should watch Protract. In the morning, you should post everyone who visited him. Any assassins that visit protract in the night will be revealed to each other (something I'm certain they don't want) and any mafia trying to hit our strongest player will be revealed as well.

Of course, we reveal our watcher in this plan, but is it worth it to the assassins to trade their anonymity for one kill? It would completely end their parts in the game by the second night, and would turn an enjoyable game of lurking in the shadows into certain death.

Thoughts?
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 19:50 GMT
#690
On April 11 2011 04:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:44 tnkted wrote:
We can't have protract be mayor. If he plays to his win condition at all, we're left with a mayor who people will constantly second-guess, whose three votes will almost certainly be countered by three switched votes from players who will vote the opposite way of him. In addition, the controversy his every vote will cause will give mafia an excellent opportunity to slip between the cracks and promote conflict in the town. Regardless of whether or not he is the best candidate, electing him would be extremely detrimental to town, if for no other reason than the fact that people are so divided over this.

Personally, I don't think he's actually demonstrated to me that hes really the assassin and not the GF framing himself black. If he's who he says he is, then he is absolutely capable of pulling such a trick over on us. Who could possibly counterclaim? Another assassin? They don't know if he's one of them or not. In fact, if I was the godfather and a vet, this is precisely the strategy I would use to get elected mayor. I'd tell everyone I am 'so sick of mafia, I just want to make this game fun' and I would rely on my reputation to convince people that I know what I'm doing. I think I made clear in the previous earlygame (insane 2) my opinion on relying on reputation when I opposed Kav's mayoral campaign.

However, he is a tried and proven player and an excellent analyzer. As such, I am tempted to keep him alive... but on a leash. He can't be in a position of power, but to lose such an excellent player this early in the game would be pretty painful.

Nonetheless, we are presented with an opportunity here. We have a known target. We can be 100% certain that if we don't elect Protract he is going to be hit tonight.

Tnkted's Plan

We don't elect Protract. Instead, we use him as bait.

Watcher should watch Protract. In the morning, you should post everyone who visited him. Any assassins that visit protract in the night will be revealed to each other (something I'm certain they don't want) and any mafia trying to hit our strongest player will be revealed as well.

Of course, we reveal our watcher in this plan, but is it worth it to the assassins to trade their anonymity for one kill? It would completely end their parts in the game by the second night, and would turn an enjoyable game of lurking in the shadows into certain death.

Thoughts?


bait for what? we don't care about the assassins why would we waste the watchers night action trying to catch assassins that absolutely dont matter to us

also assassins can't kill n1


Because it keeps the assassins from wanting to kill Protract. If they kill him we reveal who they are. Perhaps the watcher isn't actually watching protract, but if he is they are revealed. It makes killing him a giant risk and allows us to vote an actual townie into office.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 19:58 GMT
#701
On April 11 2011 04:51 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:44 tnkted wrote:
We can't have protract be mayor. If he plays to his win condition at all, we're left with a mayor who people will constantly second-guess, whose three votes will almost certainly be countered by three switched votes from players who will vote the opposite way of him. In addition, the controversy his every vote will cause will give mafia an excellent opportunity to slip between the cracks and promote conflict in the town. Regardless of whether or not he is the best candidate, electing him would be extremely detrimental to town, if for no other reason than the fact that people are so divided over this.

Personally, I don't think he's actually demonstrated to me that hes really the assassin and not the GF framing himself black. If he's who he says he is, then he is absolutely capable of pulling such a trick over on us. Who could possibly counterclaim? Another assassin? They don't know if he's one of them or not. In fact, if I was the godfather and a vet, this is precisely the strategy I would use to get elected mayor. I'd tell everyone I am 'so sick of mafia, I just want to make this game fun' and I would rely on my reputation to convince people that I know what I'm doing. I think I made clear in the previous earlygame (insane 2) my opinion on relying on reputation when I opposed Kav's mayoral campaign.

However, he is a tried and proven player and an excellent analyzer. As such, I am tempted to keep him alive... but on a leash. He can't be in a position of power, but to lose such an excellent player this early in the game would be pretty painful.

Nonetheless, we are presented with an opportunity here. We have a known target. We can be 100% certain that if we don't elect Protract he is going to be hit tonight.

Tnkted's Plan

We don't elect Protract. Instead, we use him as bait.

Watcher should watch Protract. In the morning, you should post everyone who visited him. Any assassins that visit protract in the night will be revealed to each other (something I'm certain they don't want) and any mafia trying to hit our strongest player will be revealed as well.

Of course, we reveal our watcher in this plan, but is it worth it to the assassins to trade their anonymity for one kill? It would completely end their parts in the game by the second night, and would turn an enjoyable game of lurking in the shadows into certain death.

Thoughts?


Three major points, 1, why do we care if protract lives? You just said you think he could be a really ballsy GF, or what he claims, either way we dont care who takes him out.

2, why do we want to reveal assassins again? We should not care about them, and any resources we waste identifying other assassins are resources not spent protecting pro town players/catching scum.

3.) Assassins can't hit night 1 anyway so putting a watcher on him would be a waste unless scum is stupid and hits them.

Basicaly, why would we waste resources on him. I've thought better of my intial reaction of offering him medics. If he isn't pro-town then we have no need to expend resources on him. there are only two reasonable positions here, you either think he is going to help the town and vote him in, or you think he won't and just choose to ignore him from here on out and count on assassins hitting him night 2. Any other plan is wasting town resources that we need to catch scum.


1. Because he's a good player. That was the cornerstone of his pitch. I want to keep him alive because hes a good player, and we hold the threat of reveal. When our watcher stops watching him, if we announce it, he is dead that night. He has every reason to share with us his analysis because if he's not doing enough all we have to do is post 'watcher, watch someone else tonight' and he's instantly dead.

2. We don't care if assassins are revealed, but they certainly do. Anyone who tries to hit pandain will be killed by the next night because their identiy will be posted in thread. we are appealing to their sense of self-preservation.

3. We put a medic on him night one (night 1 medics are a guessing game anyway) to keep him from getting hit by scum, and watcher watches other people (or watches protract so two of our blues know each other!).

We're wasting resources on him because he's an excellent player and those are the terms he is demanding. I don't want him to die because hes good. We can use him, we just have to be careful and keep all of the power in our own hands.
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 20:03 GMT
#708
On April 11 2011 04:56 Pandain wrote:
Actually electing Proctat is by far the best move we could do.

Think about it:
1.He's not mafia. We know this for a fact. We know that if he fails to either "rolecheck someone" or kill someone extra, then we lynch him. Furthormore, any of the other canidates we DONT KNOW if they ARE mafia. Personally I would prefer not having such a powerful mayor role, but if I had to give it to anyone, it would be proctat. And here is why he would not be anti town:

a.)His goal is to kill assasins. This means that he will be going after the scum-esque people, since assasins and mafia will act at least noticably alike in this game, given that they are both hostile to town. At the very least he will be killing the anti town.
b.) He will provide us will role checks.
c.) HE WILL PROVIDE US WITH TWO CONFIRMED TOWNIES. Here is what I say: Proctat reveal who the two bodyguards are. Given that the OP says that two townies will be chosen, then we can have two confirmed townies. And obviously we know that the Assasins will be gunning for him.

And Proctat is like "Wtf, I don't want to reveal my body guards."

But this is the PANDAIN PLAN

1.Proctat reveal the two bodyguards.
2. Watchers are HEAVILY advised to visit these people. Obviously there may not be a watcher(even though there likely is.) But the most important thing is that the threat remains the same.
This makes it very risky for the other assasins to even attempt to shoot the bodyguards for fear of losing. They will most likely have to wait a couple days, during which we shall have ample time to find them.

Proctat will be helping town while still fulfilling his role condition. There is no reason not to vote for him.

Furthormore I announce my campaign for Mayor Pardoner.

Why I should be pardoner:
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I'm a dt. There. Now you guys have to make me it or I diez....

By having such an important blue role be so safe, we can gurantee that I shall help you guys. And if I don't give a true role check, you guys can lynch me.

Was this a douche move? Yes.
Is it worth it for me? Also yes.




*facepalm*

Why would you ever reveal that you are blue day 1? Theres no way I'm voting for you.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 20:06 GMT
#715
On April 11 2011 05:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On April 11 2011 04:56 Protactinium wrote:
So I have said that I want to help the town purely because of fun. You have no way to believe me, correct? Well how about I start proving what I said then. It's day 1, there's plenty of information out there to do some analysis and reveal a plan.

There are two ways mafia and/or assassins can react to my campaign.

1) Ignore my post or minimalize it
2) Actively fight against it

You can 100% bet that they will not be supporting my candidacy. Assassins in particular must be vocal. Naturally, they do not want me elected whatsoever. In addition assassins and mafia can and will freely attack me because it's very easy to make up some nonsense about why I should not be elected, and lo and behold, a number have already done that. Some will be townie, but I dare say there's a very nice probability that at least half are mafia or assassin.

The first point is also interesting. It would be rather unlikely for a townie to look at my candidacy and not have a strong opinion on it one way or another: it's a polarizing issue. You either like it or you don't. We'll cover that in a future post, as it caught a few other suspects.

List of People attacking my campaign, openly or subtly. AKA Mafia & Assassin list

    Gmarshal
    tnkted
    mig
    kitaman
    Kavdragon
    Wiggles
    Darmousseh
    Dropbear
    Robellicose
    Coagulation


Note that DoctorHelvetica is not on this list even though he is opposing me quite heavily, because he changed his stance over time. Upon seeing my campaign, Mafia and Assassins would instantly think "I don't want this guy in office" and their posts would reflect that. DoctorHelvetica, on the other hand, came in supporting me initially and changed his opnion over time upon reflecting on it more. I suppose this could have been an act but I'd rather go with Occam's Razor for now, making me think he is town.

This list will have for certain 1 assassin and highly likely both of them because they cannot let me get into office (yes there are 3 assassins). As the Assassins also know they are on this list, they will also find it very likely that their counterpart will be on the list too. However, this list is going to also have multiple mafia on it. I'm guessing 2-3. Why Mafia? Quite simply, they don't want an invincible double shot vigi and a free rolecheck visible to all, and also, someone who they absolutely cannot manipulate the town to kill.

The best part? The assassins only have 1 rolecheck and will have to fire into a group of people that has a high concentration of mafia in order to find their enemy. We can lynch from this list if you want, but tbh we really don't need to. Assassins will sort out the matter themselves or forfeit all chances of winning.

Lastly, a lot of people seem to be missing the point of my election, talking about some nonsense of how I might be mafia (LOL) or I won't help the town at all (which as you can see above is patently not true). However, who cares? The main points are:

1) You get TWO vigi hits, aka you double or more the town's non-lynch kp, and a dt check publicly known. This is quite important, as all too often dt's die before revealing any of their findings or are so trapped by fear that they won't reveal anything anyways.
2) You know I'm not mafia, so the town can't blow the game like it has many times in the past by lynching its own elected roles, of which there is a substantial and inherent pull to do.

tnkted is assassin probably

kavdragon/mib are mafia

gmarshal is probably town imo


Sigh.

I'm not assassin. Look at protracts logic: anyone that disagrees with his arguments is mafia? Of course not. If I was black or mafia I'd be supporting his campaign along with everyone else because it would let be blend in much better and the tide of public opinion is extremely pro-protract at the moment. Scum doesn't vote for what makes sense to their game-plan unless they absolutely have to. They vote with public opinion because it lets them blend in better. Theres a reason people fear band wagoning so much.

'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 21:00 GMT
#783
We can't elect Pandain, we can't elect Protract. I'm convinced we need a viable alternative to Chaoser/GM because right now there have been no other serious, strong candidates. DrH is far to aggressive to trust with a delicate position like this (there is a definite need for aggressiveness to provoke scum, but not in the leadership capacity of mayor). All the other candidates haven't been vocal enough for me to consider voting for them.

I'd like to be mayor, if you'll have me. I'm not going to give you a big long pitch because if you've been reading my posts its pretty clear that I'm one of the only levelheaded calm people in this game so far. I'd like to run with GM, if he's alright with that, but I'm willing to let town choose. Here's my plan:

We don't put Protract in office. We use the threat of the watcher WIFOM to scare off assassins from attacking him, and in exchange he provides us with analysis. Since we are offering him much less than he asked (ie, he gets no solid protection except for the self-preservation instincts of the other assassins) I'm willing to let him keep his DT and his KP, on the condition that if his DT misses he reveal to us what he learned.

As your mayor I can guarantee solid scumhunting skills, a fair degree of paranoia, solid analysis, and calm and levelheadedness, perhaps the most important quality in this crazy game so far. I will be extremely cautious with my votes; I will always be one of the last to vote, and if I sense band-wagoning going on I will do my best to draw attention to it.

I have a good record in this forum, albeit a short one. I was awarded the deagle award for my early game, and I managed to name the entire scum team on page 216 of that same game. My ability to manipulate the mechanics managed to get RoL to ragequit the game entirely and completely destroyed the moral of the mafia. There were definite places in that game where I made mistakes, but I'm confident in my ability to lead the town and provide throughtful, measured feedback.

Don't make a rash decision here guys. Even if you don't vote for me, make sure you vote for somebody you think will give town the best chance long term.

##Vote tnkted
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 21:18 GMT
#807
On April 11 2011 06:12 urashimakt wrote:
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On April 11 2011 06:01 Pandain wrote:
actually you know what.
IT would still work.
I just don't run.

I'm not dt

After reading through Pandain's flight of fancy, I just wanted to give my two cents. Assuming Pandain is either green or scum, which I'm going to because anything else is going to break my brain/heart/misc vital organs, I still believe protecting Protact with the Pardoner position only is a good idea. Arguing about assassin business is not. Just forget he's an assassin imo, which is why I don't endorse him for Mayor. That would make it impossible to forget he's black.

I have no idea about who should be mayor. I want someone who's calm, collected, and proven a good analyst. Someone people can get behind and argue with without creating a mess for scum to hide behind. The more vets post about each mayoral candidate and their thoughts, the better reads we newbies can get on the whole thing.

Sorry if any of my points are disagreeable, I am admittedly new at this.


Sounds like you're looking for what I'm looking for in a mayor. You should vote for me!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 21:22 GMT
#809
Kav if you're claiming a role I swear to god...
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 21:39 GMT
#828
I'm alright with being pardoner since that role requires a certain amount of restraint.

I'm not yet confident in DrH's ability to curb his aggressive impulses. Newbies might not have learned this yet: You don't want someone in a leadership position that throws FoS's around like candy. That's DrH's style, AFAIK; he tries to provoke responses from people by accusing them, which provides valuable fodder for analysis by other players.

However, you don't want somebody like that in a leadership position. Why? Because everyone isn't online at once. You might have people that are online at the same time as DrH who bandwagon with his votes, only to find out when they log in after the day flips that they voted for somebody DrH had provoked and who had proved themselves town. Mayor needs to be restrained.

Besides, his scum reads so far haven't been very convincing to me. MiB has been playing like a typical newbie, and Kav opens almost every game like he has this one.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 10 2011 21:42 GMT
#831
Thank you red, those lists are very helpful. I'm going to do some reading on Trancestorm, he's met all of my criteria for scum/assassin so far.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:05 GMT
#1018
Ok I've been gone all day.

Town. WTF.

Where are all these emotional outbursts coming from? Almost all of the FoS's that have come out so far this game have been ridiculous, targeted at new players for not posting enough, or not reading properly, or acting like typical newbie players. DrH, some throwing accusations at people like they're candy. Read up, gather some information, and present it in a big large wall of text like everyone else does. Theres a reason we do it that way.

Now, for newbies, you might not know who you should be listening to in this game if you're green (which you probably are since its your first game). You want to be listening to people with calm, levelheaded opinions, who have put a fair amount of thought and effort into their posts. You can tell these people by the amount that they post and the sheer quality of their posts. Spammers are generally not that helpful for analytic purposes.

Here's my list of people that should be your role models, town or not town. This is how good mafia players behave in thread:

Kita
GM
Protract
ON
Lanaia
Kav
myself ()

and urashimakt is doing pretty good too, for a newbie. There are a few other players that are doing well, but those 7 are the ones you should pay attention to when they post. Keep in mind that you should be reading their stuff with an open mind; feel free to challenge them where you think they are acting scummy, but rather then throw out an FoS (which is a fairly serious, formal accusation in this forum and is currently being abused to great extent) simply point out their scummy play. If you want to post an FoS make sure you've done your research; big posts with lots of quotes and analysis are what we're after. Putting effort into your posts is what makes you town.

My analysis on Tracestorm is incoming.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:06 GMT
#1019
EBWOP Oh and wiggles. Wiggles has been doing good too.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:12 GMT
#1023
On April 11 2011 14:00 Protactinium wrote:
Tnkted is nowhere near town.


Explain this. As far as I can see, your only reason for throwing dirt on me is the fact that I think your plan is stupid and I don't want a black in the office. If that's the only requirement for being mafia in your book you aren't the 'pro' player you're claiming to be, you're just trying to confuse the town.

You do realize that you have absolutely no more proof than anyone else that you are what you say you are? I'm convinced at this point that you're the one thats scum.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:15 GMT
#1024
Sigh.. its late. I'll post my analysis tomorrow, I have like 9 hours of class I need to be ready for.

-_- mondays suck. gnite yall!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:34 GMT
#1029
On April 11 2011 14:23 chaoser wrote:
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On April 11 2011 14:15 tnkted wrote:
Sigh.. its late. I'll post my analysis tomorrow, I have like 9 hours of class I need to be ready for.

-_- mondays suck. gnite yall!


Answer my question pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee. How is ON and lanaia playing pro town?


Oh. I don't know! I'm not saying that anyone on my list is pro town, just that they're acting like you should in this forum which is to say that they are not spamming, are spending time on their posts, and are therefore worth reading. I'd rather read one players long, well thought out post than I would one player's half a dozen posts responding to absolutely every single little spasm of activity in the thread.

Quality > quantity in this forum.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 13:55 GMT
#1058
On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.


Actually, Protract is the one that would give us the most information. ON is nowhere near a threat right now. Meanwhile, I am convinced that DrH is a horrible candidate for mayor. How many of the people that disagree with him has he targeted for a lynch? So far he's accused myself, Kav, Kita, and Potract of being scum. The only one he doesn't think is scum is GM and he's been taking Protract and other people's arguements to support that. He isn't running on a platform of substance, just one of accusing all the other candidates of scumming.

And lynching ON won't clear up anything. Maybe he was just acting like he disagreed with you to prove that you're actually green when you're read? You have know idea exactly how devious the mafia can act in this game. Lynching ON won't prove anyone's greenness other than ONs.

You need to be extremely careful with bandwagoning in this game. If nobody is disagreeing with you it means that mafia likes your idea, or is laying low because its late game and there are 6 people alive.

Do not be sheep, newbies.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 14:00 GMT
#1059
On April 11 2011 22:15 redFF wrote:
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On April 11 2011 22:13 Mig wrote:
On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.


I disagree that if ON flips red it instantly confirms everyone as red. I say this once again because I know I am green. If he flips red I am probably going to be the next person lynched and then when I flip green you will be back to being uncertain about what everyone is.

At the same time if he flips green it really doesn't clear anyone because like I said Gmarshal has already said hes fine lynching ON which he can easily say if hes red but I doubt he would ever say if they were both red.

Finally I don't think if he flipped green it would even make you look that red. To me you don't really come off as red you just come as an overzealous green who views everything as black/white instead of realizing the situation probably isn't so clear cut.


I wouldn't want you lynched next, the fact that you changed your vote to DrH means im going to have to re-read all your posts. I would probably have a lynch of M0nsterChef day2 if ON flips red and a check on GM.



*facepalm*

Mafia wants to act like town you know. It is very easy for them to vote for somebody pro-town in an attempt to fit in. MiB changing is vote doesn't prove anything.

What proves his greenness, IMO, its his response to DrHs tunneling. He's been playing more like a shy newbie green forced out into the open by DrH than a scum. If he was scum he'd being coached by the more experienced mafia members on his team, and he'd be posting small helpful little bits of content and trying to stay under the radar, which isn't particularly hard in this shitstorm of a thread. There are several newbies that match that description already.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 17:48 GMT
#1104
On April 12 2011 01:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On April 12 2011 01:21 GMarshal wrote:
So you guys want to lynch ON for information? You do realize that that is absolutely awful play, right?

Think about it, this is DAY 1 people are flip flopping right and left, we are surrounded by new players, they behave erratically so any information that lynching ON "reveals" about them is worthless . Lynching ON proves nothing either way, about me or any other players. If you people want to lynch him because you think he is a red, then thats fine, but lynching for information day 1, with no clearly drawn lines, and not much to go on is terrible, terrible play.

Come on people, lets lynch scum, not townies!

This is a good point from Gmarshal. "Let's lynch for information" is something scum love to say, because really "information" is just a WIFOM scenario that they can push in whichever way they want. If ON turns up green/red that doesn't really give us that much relevant information.

Mafia will often attack/accuse other mafia on day 1 and use confounding tactics to make sure they can not be discovered if a teammate is lynched.
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On April 11 2011 22:55 tnkted wrote:
On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.


Actually, Protract is the one that would give us the most information. ON is nowhere near a threat right now. Meanwhile, I am convinced that DrH is a horrible candidate for mayor. How many of the people that disagree with him has he targeted for a lynch? So far he's accused myself, Kav, Kita, and Potract of being scum. The only one he doesn't think is scum is GM and he's been taking Protract and other people's arguements to support that. He isn't running on a platform of substance, just one of accusing all the other candidates of scumming.

And lynching ON won't clear up anything. Maybe he was just acting like he disagreed with you to prove that you're actually green when you're read? You have know idea exactly how devious the mafia can act in this game. Lynching ON won't prove anyone's greenness other than ONs.

You need to be extremely careful with bandwagoning in this game. If nobody is disagreeing with you it means that mafia likes your idea, or is laying low because its late game and there are 6 people alive.

Do not be sheep, newbies.


I'd like to ask, what exactly is a platform of substance? It seems like your only goal here really is to discourage people from voting for me, even though you don't seem to think I'm scum. I have never accused Protactinium, you, or kita of being scum. Kavdragon/mib were the only two I made a real case for. Either you really misunderstood some things I said or you're putting words in my mouth to make me look bad. Which is it?
My Thoughts



OriginalName is still my top lynch candidate, but if I'm elected mayor I will re-read everybodies posting to make a decision. If I am elected and don't lynch OriginalName don't accuse me of "going back on my promises" or anything like that. I will lynch my top suspect no matter what, I will always vote for my top suspect, NO MATTER WHAT the "town" (a.k.a the mafia) wants me to do.

But let's talk about this ON situation.

If ON flips red, this is when you, the town aligned player, want to go through his posts. Who does he avoid talking to? Who does he defend? Does he ever attack/accuse someone in a way that seems fake? That's a good way to find potential teammates. From that list, go through all of their posts and try to analyse their behavior. Do they treat ON strangely? Are their posts scummy at all?

AFTER YOU DO ALLLLLLLL OF THAT

Go ahead and build a case. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. It does not "prove" Gmarshal is mafia or anyone else. If he flips green then it doesn't mean anything other than he played poorly, really. What it does mean that it is likely mafia aren't going to be outright opposing his lynch, maybe a couple will weakly, but by and large mafia will have no reason to try to stop him from being lynched. Keep that in mind, but don't run too far with that idea.

If I'm offering any "substance" (whatever that means), it's a mayor who won't let the mafia pressure him into making bad decisions. I will analyse independently and vote based on my own conclusions, that's the safest way.


If you keep posting like this I'll retract everything I've said about you. Finally, a post with content that gives a good example for the newbies!

But you're wrong. You have accused me of being scum several times, sheeping off protract. Several of your other 'gut' accusations have been people who disagreed with you.

Responding to protracts absolutely stupid list of scum/people who disagreed with his plan:
On April 11 2011 05:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
tnkted is assassin probably

kavdragon/mib are mafia

gmarshal is probably town imo


Responding to me immediately afterwards:
On April 11 2011 05:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
im not pro-protact at all, that's just my read on you right now

i mean it's day 1 so these reads are shitty but i think the scum team is:
kavdragon
mib
aidnai
jackal58


and some other people idk, thats just a baseline guess i'm really only feeling good about kav and mib at the moment


Lets look at your scum list. MiB made one newbie post and you immediately jumped on him and started tunnelling. Jackal has been playing this game precicely the same as he has last time, with short contentless posts talking about how much he hates scum, etc, interspaced with witty play on words and condescending nicknames. He was green last time. Ironically, you started thinking he was scum immediately after arguing with him over... what exactly?
Aidnai I haven't analyzed very much, so you may be right about him. You've been tunnelling kav since the beginning of the game with no evidence, purely because he wanted to be mayor. Either give solid reasons, with quotes, for all of those people (including myself) or stop throwing around stupid accusations. Personally I think you've missed all of the real mafia in this thread. I'll be posting my own list later when I'm not in class (ie, like 9 or 10 CST tonight) and not one person on my list is on yours.

Disregarding all of that for a moment, I hope you keep posting like this because this is the sort of example we need to give newbies.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#1168
GM I was ok with your earlier ideas but your later ones are extremely scummy.
1. Lynching the pardoner? Are you serious? You backed off it quickly but I don't know how you could ever possibly think that removing half of the town's 'safe from night kill' roles would ever be a good idea.
2. Posting a list of what the blues should be doing? Extremely stupid, tells the mafia who they should avoid. Lists like that are only useful when we're dealing with a crowd half this size. If you were mafia that list would help you by getting all of the blues to focus their powers in one area, which you can easily avoid. Anyone you leave off the list is guarrenteed to be killable!
3. Calling vig hits on pandain? He's probably a blue that was stupid enough to announce himself in front of everybody, hes done nothing but lurk since then. Anybody in this thread with half a brain is aware of his role now, why could you possibly want to kill him? If you were mafia calling a vig hit on pandain would be the smartest thing you could do, since he would be saving you a hit at night.

I'm not saying you're town, but the conspiracy theorist part of my brain is going nuts with thoughts about how you and protract are mafia, and protract is getting bussed to get you into the mayors position.

TLDR; GMs ideas are horrible and I can't support his campaign. I withdraw my candidacy, my vote right now is more important than providing a valuable alternative.

I can't believe I'm typing this. ##vote DrH


Also everybody, about Serejai: I play SC2 with him sometimes and I am/was part of the TL minecraft server, and Serejai is the biggest troll I've ever seen. He was fucking with you. I don't know what hes doing this game but hes hard to read. As he posts more I'll be happy to translate into english for you. :D
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 22:25 GMT
#1172
Then make the pardoner save your first lynch. Its been suggested several times before. It would solve your problem entirely and would only cost us a lynch that is probably going to be town anyway.

I have to go to class, i'll respond ot other points when i get back.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#1283
On April 12 2011 08:15 Rean wrote:
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On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?


Meapak says it's okay to pm the host:

[01:14] <+Meapak> FUCK
[01:14] <+Meapak> redff
[01:14] <+Meapak> dude
[01:14] <+Meapak> I'm at 1499 posts
[01:14] <+Meapak> I can't post
[01:14] <+GGQ> i keep accidentally missing my milestone posts
[01:14] <+Meapak> just tell him that he can PM the hosts


I'm just reading through, but it looks like everyone else missed this.

Wtf?

Why are you in a chat room with meapak and GGQ? I thought only mafia had circles.

FOS Meapak GGQ and Rean
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 01:47 GMT
#1300
Gm if its close enough i'd rather has you as pardoner than protract, so i'll switch my vote.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 02:49 GMT
#1317
Switching from DrH to GM because while GMs ideas are stupid, I'd still rather have him as mayor than DrH.

##unvote DrH
##vote GMarshal
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 00:37 GMT
#1684
Keep pressuring GM guys, this is really good. Every time he posts I think he's town more and more.

Sorry I haven't posted lately, been busy with life. I'll post a bunch tomorrow.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 04:36 GMT
#1709
I noticed that too, but why would pandain sub out if he was Godfather? that seems like the most exciting role in the game.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 14:44 GMT
#1939
Damn, I should have stayed up for the night post.



Fare thee well town! To quote churchhill: “I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the ordeal of meeting me is another matter.”

'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 18:19 GMT
#1989
I would want to sub in as well but unfortunately I already know who the scum is, so that would be kind of unfair.

Not telling though!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 13 2011 23:42 GMT
#2086
On April 14 2011 08:31 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 08:12 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 14 2011 08:10 GMarshal wrote:
On April 14 2011 08:06 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 14 2011 07:45 redFF wrote:
On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote:
If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW?

Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks?


Why do you ask, are u dt/tracker? How about you post your opinions on anything for once. Do you trust Flamewheel? Do you think we should lynch coag? What do you think of the huge post i made trying to prove to other people you are scum??? You haven't made one post talking about your stance on any issues, come on!!! THIS GUY IS FUCKING SCUM


I'm not scum.


Wonderful defense, I love how you indexed it and everything so I could easily refernce the different points.

Theres a well bodied accusation against you out there. Please try to defend yourself better than this.


I'm a tracker. I tracked RedFF and he didn't go anywhere.

You're either scum or stupid.

Alright. I have been gently calling Coag and GMarshall scum since the beginning of night 0. A little more so today.
I gotta believe scum has seen this. Looking over the people we lost last night
I can't quite understand why CubeDin v1 who was just put in the game would have been killed over me.
Same with tnkted. He did a lot of analysis but most of it's wrong because he doesn't understand the mechanics of the game.

Both GMarshall and Coag know that once I start calling somebody scum I don't quit. If either were scum I gotta believe I would be dead rather than Cube and Twinkles (Miss you my love).
Rean didn't post a lot in Insane. I was actually surprised he turned up blue in that game. But his posts weren't bullshit laden cesspools.
Serajatroll is another one I would love to lynch. Neither are town oriented. They both play the idiot card. I would rather see either of them go. Neither are an asset. Both are very likely scum.
I'm going to vote for Rean.



LOL

Note: trying to read anything out of this post is a waste of time, I just thought that was hilarious
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 14 2011 04:19 GMT
#2211
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 14 2011 04:21 GMT
#2212
You guys have no idea how much more interesting this is when you know who the scum is.

'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 14 2011 04:28 GMT
#2217
mafia is talking to me in PM

they say hi, and that you guys are all going to die

like i did

GO GET EM TOWN
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 04:09:32
April 15 2011 04:06 GMT
#2627
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 24 2011 02:02 GMT
#3483
I might as well be the first to say this...

DRH WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU RUN FOR MAYOR WHEN YOUR A VET?! YOU ARE ALREADY SOAKING UP A KILL, LET SOMEBODY ELSE RUN

I was so angry when you killed kav I almost hit something, but I let it go. I'm not even angry anymore. Im actually glad I died night 1, saved me some ragin' in the thread.

But jesus christ I was angry.

DrH: All the love in the world man, no lie, no hard feelings, but its smarter to not run for mayor when you are already bulletproof.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 24 2011 21:37 GMT
#3560
On April 24 2011 13:25 DropBear wrote:
Tnkted, I hope you enjoyed your stint in the Mafia IRC after you died. It’s pretty interesting in there as you found out!


I did, as a matter of fact, it was a even more fun when you have everybody's roles! And for the record, (you couldn't read it) in the dead person's channel I said several times that I thought you were playing very well. You were last on my suspect list, I was entirely caught off guard by the fact that you were mafia. Keep up the good work.



On April 24 2011 15:29 BrownBear wrote:
DropBear: if you and Meapak do grudgematch, I want to cast it ^^



I'm casting too, I call it. Decon, feel up for streamin' again?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
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