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This is my first time playing so I don't really think I have the experience to be able to tell which mayor candidates are the best at analysis or the best leader etc. So I am going to base my vote purely on who I think is the most likely to be town. | ||
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On April 10 2011 13:59 Kavdragon wrote: Oh man, Protact, you just made my day. That was brilliant, but not quite thought through enough. The biggest problem, first and foremost, is that other assassins will be gunning for our body guards if you were Mayor/Pardoner. You may have two KP you are willing to lend us, but is it worth it if all the other assassins are going to be attacking townies because of it? Another problem is that putting you in the position of Pardoner OR mayor would give you information about the bodyguards, something that would be quite valuable to the mafia. Since your win condition is not the same as our, I don't think that it would be wise for us to trust you with that information. I loved the idea when I first read it, because I was thinking about how the assassins don't have a conflict of interest with the town, so it'd be great to get them working for us, but the problem becomes that we have to pick one of you to work with. That will set all the others against the town, and that counteracts the usefulness in a pretty big way. I do think making an assassin the mayor would turn the other assassins against the town but they are still extremely limited in what they can do since they only have 3 kills to use. But the 2nd point doesn't make any sense at all. What motive could the assassin possibly have to tell the mafia who the body guards were? The assassin would need to protect his bodyguards just as much as anyone. As long as his body guards are alive hes free to hunt the other assassins without there being any threat to his well being. | ||
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The problem with using the medics on prot would be A) it would give the assassins incentive to attack townies, similar to if he was mayor, also we don't know the role numbers. If we only have 1 medic and there are 3 assassins or 4 assassins and 2 medics then the assassins could still kill prot and our medics power would be wasted. Btw this is assuming we can stack medics if that's not possible someone can correct me. Overall I think its too big of a risk to use the medics on prot and they would be better spent protecting the outspoken town members. | ||
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On April 10 2011 14:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said fos I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time. If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid. | ||
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On April 10 2011 14:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it's just shit everyone else said, sounds like you're regurgitating the points strong players have made to make yourself sound agreeable somehow. if you were typing up that small post at the same time we already went through all that then you're the worlds slowest typist I am really slow. On April 10 2011 14:51 GMarshal wrote: So, to counteract the fact that you have been adding little let me ask you a few little questions Who is your #1 town read? Not counting inactives, who is your number 1 scum read? Who is your favorite Starcraft Player? #1 town read you- a lot of people vouched they could tell if you were mafia. If you were all mafia I don't think they would put themselves out there backing you because if you did end up being mafia it could be traced right back to all of them so I assume their opinions are genuine. #2 kavdragon but only because I didn't agree with his points about the assassin. I don't have any other real analysis. #3 for bw it was mondragon for sc2 jinro I guess I am playing pretty terribly so far regardless of what I am. All I can say is this is my first time playing and I was genuinely trying to help. As the game goes on and I learn I will provide better analysis. | ||
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I believe there are only 2 posts where this could be argued. The first one I made on p27 I basically said exactly what Dr.H did but I posted it at almost the exact same time as him because I was typing it up at the same time. The 2nd post that could look suspicious was on the top of p28. In that post I made 2 points that hadn't been mentioned previously. That A) if we were worried about prot not doing what we tell him if he becomes mayor we can control him with the medics. If we just give him medic protection then hes basically held hostage by us since if he doesn't do exactly what we want we can just not protect him and we don't lose anything. B) that its still a risk to use medics on him since we don't know the actual role numbers and the assassins may outnumber our medics to where we can't possibly protect him. Someone said I was wishy washy for listing both points but I was trying to discuss what our optimal play was so I listed the pros and cons as I saw them, I still gave my opinion that it was too risky to use our medics on him. I want to add I think it is suspicious how Dr.H is playing. It's in the best interest for the town for the new players to post as much as possible. They are the ones most likely to give up information and they will be most easily read by the vets so the more they post the better. With how Dr.H is playing it really discourages new people from posting out of fear that they may just be labeled as bandwagoning onto other pro town comments. Dr.H can say hes just putting pressure on people to force mistakes but I think attacking the new players would be a very viable strategy for an aggressive mafia. After they attack a new player its likely the new player will either attack them back blindly or will start to post less. Either of which would make the new player appear suspicious. | ||
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On April 11 2011 06:29 Robellicose wrote: Going to agree with you here. This just makes mig sooo much more suspicious. Also withdrawing my suspicion from you DocH. Your posts that made me worry have been outweighed by the solid ones since. Also Pandain, if you're going to fake roleclaim, on Day 1 no less, then we can't trust anything you're going to do for the rest of the game really. can we lynch him soon please? Why? I think all my points were accurate. I was trying to give my input into the situation, I don't think I just copied off what others said and I got shit on for supposed bandwagoning. And I think people should be suspicious of anyone who is attacking new players without any evidence. Even if DH is town I think hes going about it the wrong way. | ||
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The votes surrounding gmarshal are suspicious. Most of the people who voted for him I don't trust (Kavdragon for posting a lot without any analysis I agreed with, Lanaia who has had several different excuses for why she hasn't posted and her only reason for trusting gmarshal is because of how he played previously, Robellicose, kenpachi, Serejai, M0nsterChef who all have posted very little and I don't have much information on, etc. Also I feel like the odds that DrH and prot are working together is extremely small. I believe prot is an assassin and his analysis seems very good to me, especially concerning the fact that gmarshal has tons of fluff posts and almost no actual pro town analysis. So with this information I feel like DrH is a safer bet to actually be town Here are a few small reads on people whose posts I looked through. DrH- Seems to me to likely be a town player. While his reads and plans have changed a lot throughout the game (originally supported gmarshal, didn't want to run for mayor at the start, originally had a strong town read on tnkted, changed the order of which he thought kav should be lynched, etc) most of his changes seem logical and I have agreed with them. I think anyone who is actively looking through the thread for information will have their reads change a lot so this seems more believable to me than someone whose opinion has constantly stayed the same such as gmarshal FOSing mr wiggles the entire game even tho I can't really see anything mr wiggles would have done to warrant the suspicion. aidnai -No super strong reads other than I agreed with his early criticisms of Drh and seeing him support Drh afterwords despite the criticism seems non mafia to me. Wiggles- Had the best argument for why revealing the body guards was a bad idea for the town and I liked his reasoning when responding to gmarshal. So I feel hes probably town. Kitaman- He was the first person to call out M0nsterChef for voting without posting. If M0nsterChef ends up being mafia it means kitaman is almost for sure town. Lanaia- Gave 2 excuses for why she hasn't been posting much (bad internet and watching movie with bf) also she implied that with school starting tuesday she won't be able to post much so an excuse for future lurking. Along with that both her large posts don't have much content and are just filler without any strong opinions other than she likes gmarshal and assassins are bad. | ||
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Personally I do think there's a good chance ON is green but I only say that because I know I am green. If ON is red I don't really know what motivation he would have for saying I am green when he can easily just analyze me as red and most people will agree with him. Also this is the same situation for you GMarshal. If ON flipped green I don't think it would clear you of being a red at all. Especially since you said you would be fine lynching him and if you were both reds then that seems kind of suicidal. | ||
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On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote: If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips. I disagree that if ON flips red it instantly confirms everyone as red. I say this once again because I know I am green. If he flips red I am probably going to be the next person lynched and then when I flip green you will be back to being uncertain about what everyone is. At the same time if he flips green it really doesn't clear anyone because like I said Gmarshal has already said hes fine lynching ON which he can easily say if hes red but I doubt he would ever say if they were both red. Finally I don't think if he flipped green it would even make you look that red. To me you don't really come off as red you just come as an overzealous green who views everything as black/white instead of realizing the situation probably isn't so clear cut. | ||
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On April 11 2011 22:52 DarthThienAn wrote: how do you know that anyone is green? The game just started... no actions have been done by any blues, so no one know what anyone else's alignment is. Right I don't know about anyone else for sure all I said was that I know that I am green obviously and I made a guess that there's a decent chance ON is green just because if he were red I figured he would have fingered me as red. | ||
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On April 12 2011 22:52 DropBear wrote: Pandain have you died or something? I believe BB said earlier pandain had dropped out and was in the process of being replaced. | ||
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RedFF-obvious reasons that everyone has said already Barundar- I think most of his posts against DrH have been pretty logical. And hes the #1 suspect of DrH so I feel like regardless of the result we would get a lot of information from the check. tnkted- not saying hes scum but he changed his mayor vote twice right near the end of the voting so I think he would at least be worth checking out. | ||
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So I still believe that prot is an assassin, however I think there's a good chance coag is mafia. If prot used his 1 dt check last night and hit a red I think the obvious play for him would be to role claim dt. Then if we lynch that player he called out and its right he can ask for medic protection. | ||
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On April 13 2011 15:57 Lemonwalrus wrote: ^^ For the 68th time, assassins cannot use any of their abilities night 1. Ah my bad ok strike the 2nd part of my post. | ||
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On April 13 2011 15:59 Lemonwalrus wrote: Oh and sorry for the "for the 68th time" thing, that came of extremely dickish of me. /hugs haha np and anyway thinking on it more my idea wasn't very good anyway. A decent plan for prot to survive is to call out anyone as red and hope we lynch them. If hes right people may believe him and give medic protection if hes wrong hes going to die but the assassins would have killed him anyway. I also have to wonder if prot was really a dt and he used his check and found a green what exactly was his plan to convince people that he was telling the truth? It just seems like such a huge risk to take playing the assassin gambit if hes given one of the most important town roles. | ||
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It just seems like such a massive risk to take playing the assassins gambit when you already have such a powerful role. | ||
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On April 13 2011 16:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote: he has nothing to gain from this as scum it doesn't reek of anything besides you getting lynched He has nothing to gain from this as scum I agree, but he has a lot to gain from this if hes an assassin. In fact this is literally his only chance at surviving. Prot could be 100% right and coag is scum. But the problem is no matter what I feel like the best play for him will always be to role claim dt. However, if he was going to lie and role claim it makes sense that he would pick the person he felt was most likely to actually be scum. So basically if anyone wants to lynch coag that's fine but use prots arguments as the reason do not consider his role claim, there is just too high of a chance that he could be lying about it. | ||
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On April 13 2011 17:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote: he has nothing to gain from this as assassin i thought about it. if you are assassin and we lynch you and he hits kitaman27 (or whoever he thinks is the next assassin) he's pretty much guaranteed to be killed that same night. if there are 3 assassins this would result in a TIE the only way this makes sense is if there are two assassins. if protact was assassin he would know that and lynching you is a way to get you killed without letting you take him down as well. That way he can win his game and he is transported out immediately. That plan is all based on him trying to wipe the assassins out in 1 night. But what if instead hes just going to try and get medic protection from us by role claiming dt and hitting a scum? That way he can hope we either lynch or the mafia hits the other assassins while he has protection. And if hes assassin he can use his actual dt check to continue the lie the next night. | ||
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On April 13 2011 17:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: what if monkeys fly out of my butt If he hits a scum and then gets another with his real dt check then what is the problem lol, that's great for us. I agree completely. That's why I am saying if people think we should lynch coag use analysis and use prots reasoning. Don't just rely on the supposed role check which it would make sense for him to lie about. | ||
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I am fine with people lynching coag but I want everyone to make their decision based on reason and not on a claim that has such a good chance of being untrue. | ||
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On April 13 2011 17:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Good now I know you're full of shit. Because I'm the veteran. And unless this is a no medic tons of veterans set-up, there is almost NEVER more than one veteran. Veteran is also the EASIEST and SAFEST fake roleclaim for mafia. bye coagulation  Well that makes it simple. Lynch Coag if he is veteran then the assassins will kill prot and we have to consider DrH. | ||
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On April 13 2011 17:35 Lemonwalrus wrote: he isn't risking anything, he can't be DT checked as long as a bodyguard lives. Not saying he is scum, but if he really believes that coag is mafia this is an easy way to try and influence town opinion to go with him, and it will be an exceedingly long time before anyone would know that his claim was fake. Right but if we lynch Coag and hes a vet it makes it a lot more likely DrH was lying to us. So at the very best the town would heavily distrust him and at worst the town might push for a lynch. | ||
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##Vote Coagulation | ||
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Coag and DrH have both claimed vet. The more likely it is we only have 1 vet the more likely it is that one of them is lying. Coag seems the more likely one to be lying since it would dumb for DrH to take the risk of fake role claiming when hes already in a position of power. Also Barundar mentioned that veterans are generally supposed to be more outspoken so that they can hopefully draw a hit and that seems to be exactly how DrH played. Anyway for now I will leave my vote on Coag. There's a chance he is lying about his role and even though prot is likely lying and is an assassin I think it was still in his best interest to try and call out a red. I would also be fine with having a vig hit coag if everyone thought it was likely we started with more than 1 vig. | ||
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On April 14 2011 19:27 Robellicose wrote: Still sticking with my lynch of Coag. I'm now not certain of GM's alignment any more, I could have sworn that he was town before but there's been a lot of mud slung both ways. If he pardons coag then he's red to me. If he doesn't, then he's probably town in my opinion. It would be suicidal for GM to pardon coag. Especially since just last page GM said he would never use his pardon for any reason. So even if GM is red I can't imagine he will ever pardon coag. | ||
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If you pardon coag you will 100% of the time get lynched next and even if you flip town we don't learn anything about coag other than you were suicidal and so he probably still gets lynched. Also you have mentioned LAL several times how about when you repeatedly said you would never use the pardon for any reason just like 12 hours ago? At this point I guess there is no choice but to lynch you but if you flip dt I am going to be fucking pissed. You would have let whatever ridiculous principles you think you have have completely sabotage and destroy the town. | ||
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That said, you probably have just enough time to use it on someone once. Once during the game, after night 2 (gotta lay low for a bit and let it all blow over, man!), you may choose to visit one unlucky soul and introduce him to the business end of your new banhammer So do the vigs have to wait until night 3 to hit? And if so do we consider lynching coag day 3? | ||
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On April 15 2011 14:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Vig hit coagulation watch bodyguards/medic DT LSB imo Vigs can't hit yet right? In the op it says they can't hit until after night 2. VIGILANTE: You've had enough of all this bullshit. You have raided the armory and stole one (1) banhammer. That was all you could carry, cause these things are freakin' heavy, man! Of course, you're keeping this secret until you use it, because the instant someone realizes you have a banhammer they'll confiscate it from you. That said, you probably have just enough time to use it on someone once. Once during the game, after night 2 (gotta lay low for a bit and let it all blow over, man!), you may choose to visit one unlucky soul and introduce him to the business end of your new banhammer. | ||
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And while it doesn't prove anything I voted for DrH for mayor and he only won by 1 vote. If I had stayed on GM he would have won mayor instead. | ||
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He posted this right after GM posted his dt claim. GGQ Canada. April 14 2011 14:37. Posts 1677 PM Profile Blog Report Quote # Why I have a very hard time believing any DT claim in this game: In the OP, it states that not every role is guaranteed to be in the game. I believe that the DT is one role that is not in this game. My logic is simple; there's no millers. The miller role has been replaced by the nosy neighbour; a townie that shows up at deaths to throw doubt on tracker/watcher reports. I think that a DT with no miller is too powerful, so we probably only have trackers/watchers as our information roles. So I have a tough time believing GMarshal is a DT. His argument made a lot of sense and for how important the DT role claim gambit was for the mafia I can't imagine any of them trying to cast doubt on it right after. | ||
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But obviously there is still the possibility that they just forgot about monster and messed up. Will have to see who monster claims he tracked. | ||
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On April 16 2011 15:15 chaoser wrote: Ok so either we're missing a KP or GGQ didn't shoot It was probably one of the assassins who wasnt sure who they should shoot. Or you and GGQ both shot LSB. | ||
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I also think there is a very strong case to lynch jaminz. He has only posted 4 times in the thread and he hasn't given his opinion on a single issue. If you look at the only other mafia game hes played previously (haunted mafia) you can see he played very differently. He was town that game and he posted 24 total times which isn't much but clearly much much more than this game, and more importantly is he gave an opinion in like 90% of his posts. Here are some of his posts from that game. + Show Spoiler + On October 15 2010 02:57 jaminz wrote: I did a quick runthrough again, and didn't see any other mistakes, though there definitely may be some. So sorry for the mistake zerroth. Here's the updated list: Post Count, as of page 79 Note: These numbers may be slightly off due to the search function not always displaying exactly how many posts a person has per thread (this is usually only off if a person has a very high number of posts in the thread). I checked a few times, and these were the numbers I found. Players with + Show Spoiler + 1. deconduo 9 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 3. coagulation 106 4. jodogohoo 46 5. orgolove 101 6. pandain 37 7. southrawrea 8 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 9. KtheZ 19 10. oddo123 12 11. 12. quickstriker 14 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 15. zerroth 9 16. 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 18. YummyBlaBla 19 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 20. Lexpar 21 21. ~OpZ~ 4 22. SiNiquity 7 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 24. Lucktar 5 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 26. 27. kenpachi 1 28. 29. HeavOnEarth 1 30. kingjames01 8 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) 33. Flicky 3 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 37. spydR 18 38. Hyperbola 3 39. MetalFace 6 40. l0st_romantic 2 41. Aeres 14 42. ShmotZ 24 43. Hittegods 1 44. Veldril 25 45. grandmoose 2 46. LastArgument 6 47. jcarlsoniv 62 48. annul 37 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 50. seRaPh 65 51. aztrorisk 98 52. Glasse 42 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 54. 55. Kpyolysis32 43 56. Nemesis 15 57. Yogy 1 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 59. 60. thegilaboy 32 61. CubEdIn 36 In order from most posts to least: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. 4. jodogohoo 46 55. Kpyolysis32 43 52. Glasse 42 48. annul 37 6. pandain 37 61. CubEdIn 36 60. thegilaboy 32 54. 44. Veldril 25 42. ShmotZ 24 20. Lexpar 21 9. KtheZ 19 18. YummyBlaBla 19 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 37. spydR 18 11. 56. Nemesis 15 41. Aeres 14 12. quickstriker 14 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 10. oddo123 12 1. deconduo 9 15. zerroth 9 30. kingjames01 8 7. southrawrea 8 22. SiNiquity 7 46. LastArgument 6 39. MetalFace 6 24. Lucktar 5 26. 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 21. ~OpZ~ 4 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 33. Flicky 3 38. Hyperbola 3 45. grandmoose 2 40. l0st_romantic 2 59. 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 29. HeavOnEarth 1 43. Hittegods 1 27. kenpachi 1 57. Yogy 1 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) Top Posters: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. Players with 0 posts but who have voted: + Show Spoiler + 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) + Show Spoiler + On October 14 2010 18:39 jaminz wrote: Now that I've done all that..... I think it's pretty suspicious that 3 players have no posts in this thread, but have each voted. One of which (Therick) has alread cast a vote (for Veldril) for Day 2. I'm not saying they are for sure scum, but we should keep an eye on them. Lying low is one thing, not posting at all and still voting is another. With respect to the whole Veldril thing, I think that we haven't done a good enough job analyzing the clues & people's reactions yet to make a definite decision. I think we should look back at the Day 1 clues, as the one that implicated Masq was very obvious. Maybe the other clues were just as obvious, and so we should look to who they point to (one of them pointing to Veldril, among others). I'm open to discussion about anything. I hope the post count helps, because damn did it take a long time. + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2010 08:27 jaminz wrote: After rereading everything, I would suggest that the ghost not choose to save aztorisk. I'm starting to believe that he may not be the jack-o-lantern, and instead might be scum trying to stir up confusion among the townies. However, even if he is the jack-o-lantern, then there is a chance the vampire brute will choose to kill him, thinking that the ghost may be protecting him. Because the ghost is so valuable, I would suggest taking the risk of only losing 1 (or maybe 0) blues, and ensure that the ghost isn't taken out. If he is the jack-o-lantern, then unless a witch chooses to curse him he will be able to place one bomb anyway. I just don't think its worth the risk of either protecting scum, or having the ghost die to the vampire brute. What do you guys think? + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2010 05:32 jaminz wrote: After finally sifting through the entire thread (we added 15 pages in 14 hours? lol) I think I've narrowed down my choices to these people: Veldril jodogohoo Bill Murray Masq Masq is probably the most obvious choice there, so I don't think I have to explain my reasoning as I think everyone who has read the thread will understand. jodogohoo is sort of a gut/impulse choice, as I feel like he's said just enough so that people won't see him as too much of a lurker, but not enough so that he will be heavily accused. As for Veldril and Bill Murray, I'm mostly lumping them together because of their posting tendencies. This is my first game of Mafia (though I've played in real life), but from reading the few strategy guides/previous threads, it seems like one of the most important roles of scum is to stir up confusion and/or create arguments. It seems Veldril and Bill Murray have done a pretty good job of doing this and honestly, even if they are townies I wouldn't mind seeing them go since it would lead to fewer posts haha. You can see his posting style as town in that game was completely different. He actually tried to contribute and help when he could and he had no problem giving opinions on people. So for now unless we get more information on the barundar/monster rb situation I am going to vote for jaminz. | ||
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I think that it is likely that at least 2-3 of the lurkers are mafia. My top mafia lurker ranking 1. jaminez - just because the play style is such a change from his previous game where he was a townie 2. m0nsterchef - for the role blocking claim along with him not responding when people asked who he tracked last night. 3 kevconsim- basically just for kitas analysis 4 after that I think its pretty murky but I guess I would put Robellicose 4th As for people who I think are likely not mafia. Airbladeorange seems likely town just because GM was targeting him so hard. And considering how inactive milky and serjei were if GM was going to try and target a mafia I think he would have picked them. Trancestorm- My reasoning for him being likely town is when I read back through his posts I saw him trying to make an argument for lynching serjei. It was around when people were debating coags lynch so it could have been a way to try and divert attention but I think if that were the mafias plan then GM would have been arguing for serjei as well. | ||
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On April 18 2011 10:46 AirbladeOrange wrote: I will just say one more thing about my earlier post. I have a very strong reason to believe jaminz is not red and I'm sticking to it. I'm not as sure that conversion is red as much as I believe jaminz to be town. Conversion just seems the scummiest person to me at this point. I would also be okay with a kev lynch. Key point I want everyone to read: jaminz is not red. Maybe I am wrong here but I kind of thought this was AO basically saying he dt checked jaminz without actually role claiming. | ||
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