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Lemonwalrus
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On March 26 2011 03:53 BrownBear wrote: This game will not start until all 40 slots are filled. This game will not start until after Insane Mafia is completed, so if you are playing in Insane, you are welcome to join! I missed that part on my first read-through. If that is still the case please /out me from backup and /in me to real game. Thanks. Also annul please play with us.  | ||
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Insane 2 was my first game of mafia ever. Go hard or go home. | ||
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On April 07 2011 16:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Gut feeling? Or maybe it's because walrus is confirmed  100 town reads can't be wrong | ||
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On April 11 2011 23:02 kitaman27 wrote: Lemon-Still hasn't posted. Playing pokemon instead. ![[image loading]](http://www.nintendojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/art_pokemonCartoonSadPika.jpg) FINE I'll post then. Yeah I got sidetracked with games/work, but just gimme a bit to read the last 30 pages thoroughly enough to make an informed post or twelve. | ||
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On April 12 2011 04:04 AirbladeOrange wrote: Do reds generally run multiple people for mayor/pardoner, or just throw all their support to one of them? I only have one game of mafia under my belt, but I played as mafia that game and we did not ever even consider running someone for mayor. However, there was a early blue role-claim that kinda made the election situation abnormal, so I probably take that with a grain of salt. Just saying that it is possible that mafia is running multiple campaigns, only one campaign, or no campaign at all, so there is no definitive list we can get from the election by itself. | ||
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Placeholder so Brownbear doesn't get an ulcer. Will be posting in a bit. | ||
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In insane everyone copied their votes into this thread as per LSB's request. I figured that is how it is for every game. | ||
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##Unvote: Jackal58 ##Vote: GMarshal My reasoning: I still haven't dissected everything that happened after the Day 1 post as thoroughly as I would like, but a lot of what I'm basing this vote on is stuff from Insane 2. In insane 2, you might remember 2 things. 1: I was mafia. 2: GMarshal was nightkilled night 1. These 2 things are not coincidences. GMarshal, from the very beginning of insane, was putting pressure on everyone. As a scared little newbie mafia, I wanted to hide behind Coag's town read of me and not post anything, but GMarshal was one of the guys that would find the lurkers and put the spotlight on them. He would put hypotheticals out here and there, and direct them at someone that wasn't talking a lot. It felt like he was breathing down my neck the entire time. And his analysis was good. GMarshal strikes me as the kind of mayor that will be a real problem for mafia, and that is the kind of person I want to have a few meatshields and a little extra sway in this game. I've seen nothing that leads me to believe he is anything but green, and I am currently uncomfortable with Doctor Helvetica's crazy style (although for what it's worth I have a green read on him as well), and since DrH seems like GMarshal's only real competitor in the race, my vote goes to GMarshal. | ||
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Don't vote for proct. | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:15 chaoser wrote: I guess it comes down to trust and I trust prot as an assassin more than GM/DrH as ???. What does trust have to do with anything? He has flat out admitted that he is the assassin. He wants people to die as quickly as possible, which means keeping mafia away from the lynch, so that they have full KP as long as possible, is quite obviously his best play. | ||
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Mafia will not kill each other an assassin mayors best play will be to try and direct lynches towards townies He wants all 8 mafia shooting into the town as long as possible he wants townies (some of which are his enemies) to die as quickly as possible voting a known assassin into mayor will help scum please point out a flaw in this logic if you can find one | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:29 chaoser wrote: Thats the flaw. Why would voting an assassin into office help mafia again? The lines above the one you bolded are the explanation laid out in very simple terms he WANTS TOWNIES TO DIE it gets him closer to his win condition | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:01 BrownBear wrote: Protactinium: 8 urashimakt GGQ MetalFace Jackal58 Ilovejonn Conversion Protactinium kitaman27: 3 Eiii DropBear I would just like to point these out, these are the votes with strikethroughs removed. If these votes/total vote numbers are correct, that means there were 2 hidden votes and they went to these players. Most likely just a last minute editing error by Brownbear, but could give us some info if that isn't the case. Can you confirm or deny if these are the correct total vote counts for these players? | ||
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On April 13 2011 08:47 Coagulation wrote: bum help me transfer pokemon This is code for something lynch them both | ||
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On April 13 2011 09:17 GMarshal wrote: So you guys want to lynch me over the guy up there huh? /applause Well I guess thats one way to play mafia, just pretend to be really stupid. You are just mad that you are red on his list. | ||
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For the 68th time, assassins cannot use any of their abilities night 1. | ||
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/hugs | ||
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On April 13 2011 16:08 Protactinium wrote: It's illogical not to claim. Do you really think that in a game without PMs and in a situation where I'm going to get shot tomorrow night by Assassins I'm not going to tell the town that I've found a red? I have to claim at this point. Otherwise I'm just going to get shot by Asssassins during Night 2, and there's your best blue down the drain. There's honestly nothing else to it: I either claim and prove myself by having Coagulation lynched, thus drawing Medic protection so that I can continue searching, or I die to Assassins Night 2. Your claim, (the detective one) showed that the only people in the game that knew you weren't an assassin were the actual assassins, since you put in a fake number of assassins. If this reasoning were true, you would not be afraid of assassins killing you tomorrow night. | ||
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Also I want to start putting heat on the inactives. Serejai, give an opinion on something. Without trolling. Do it now. What do you think of protact's double claim? | ||
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I doubt he actually scum slipped because slips like that are probably exceedingly rare, I just want him to explain it. | ||
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On April 13 2011 16:38 Protactinium wrote: Whoops? It's late and I'm tired and I've started talking to my roommate about this game and what's going on. Too much writing for one day gets to you (MSL post coming out soon). I'd buy that if you had made the we slip in one sentence, but you made it in three consecutive sentences. | ||
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If he is an assassin, he could not have checked coag last night. | ||
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On April 13 2011 17:32 Mig wrote: I believe you anyway DrH. It seems like it would be such a retarded play to risk your position as mayor by fake roleclaiming vet. he isn't risking anything, he can't be DT checked as long as a bodyguard lives. Not saying he is scum, but if he really believes that coag is mafia this is an easy way to try and influence town opinion to go with him, and it will be an exceedingly long time before anyone would know that his claim was fake. | ||
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On April 13 2011 17:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: wait you're not implying i'm mafia trying to get mafia lynched right because that would be absolutely ridiculous No, i'm just saying that if you were town, assassin...anything really, it costs you nothing to fake claim vet since nobody can check you until your bodyguards die. | ||
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On April 13 2011 17:37 Mig wrote: Right but if we lynch Coag and hes a vet it makes it a lot more likely DrH was lying to us. So at the very best the town would heavily distrust him and at worst the town might push for a lynch. Good point. Yeah I guess I withdraw this line of reasoning, it doesn't hold up. | ||
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On April 14 2011 03:00 kevconsim wrote: i just wanted to see if he was paying attention i know that. THanks for ruining it This thread already has enough trolls, don't add to it. | ||
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On April 14 2011 03:19 tnkted wrote: I would want to sub in as well but unfortunately I already know who the scum is, so that would be kind of unfair. Not telling though! Can ghosts leave breadcrumbs? | ||
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On April 14 2011 03:27 Kavdragon wrote: Edit: Join me on the deadperson's IRC! (You too tnkted!) If that was at me...I'm not dead yet. But when I am I will. | ||
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On April 14 2011 03:47 CubEdIn wrote: Lol, that sounded a lot like that "always bet on black on roulette, and double the bet ammount each time, when it flips black you win everything back + more!". Or, if I flip a coin 9 times and it lands "heads", what are the odds of it landing heads on the 10th throw? This is unrelated, as I'm obviously scum, but it's funny that you mentioned it. P.S.: I am town. ...and claiming Assassin! But don't lynch me cuz I'm DT. Actually, you are indeed slightly more likely than anyone else in the game to be mafia since all of our roles were 'chosen' when it was 8/40 mafia, and your current role was 'chosen' when it was 8/35. However I think this is a dumb way to hunt scum. | ||
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On April 14 2011 04:01 CubEdIn wrote: Actually, no. I'm a substitute for someone whose role was also chosen when there were 8/40 mafia. I got his role, I didn't get assigned a new one.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem | ||
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On April 14 2011 04:14 CubEdIn wrote: I am aware of that lovely gem, "thank you for the extra 33%!", but I don't see why it applies here. I'm confuzzled. Are you saying that the mafia removed 4 people, by being aware of what role the guy I've replaced had? It's a bit of a strech. But do please explain, I'm always open to having my math mind tickled. (and no, I'm not good at maths, I just like statistics) Hm, this feels like derailing, so people analyzing the thread just skip over this post. when our roles were given out, everyone had 8/40 chance to become mafia. If we assume that latrommi or whatever his name was' inactivity is unrelated to what his role was, we can assume that he also had and 8/40 chance of being mafia. (in this analogy, mafia = car, and town = donkey) when 5 townies died, it was like they revealed 5 donkeys. then you were 'given the option to switch your door' you did switch, and even though latrommi had an 8/40 chance originally, because a bunch of donkeys were eliminated, switching your door will always make it more likely that you reveal a car. However, I am not going to use this as a diagnostic tool, and no one else should either. There are too many unknowns at play for this to be a pure mathematical recreation of the monty hall problem. | ||
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Since his gambit to get elected failed, he would need to switch his claim to something that would draw a medic protect...so a blue DT. If this is the case, either Coag is a fellow mafia and they are bussing him, which would probably mean that protact is a high profile role in the mafia. Or Coag isn't mafia and he is just trying to take someone out before we find out and lynch him. Which doesn't really matter since, because his mayor gambit already failed, his days are numbered already. Also, if and when we do find out that protact was mafia, I think that heaps a ton of suspicion on Doctor Mayor. | ||
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On April 15 2011 09:08 Rean wrote: You're playing exactly the same as in Insane Mafia 2. Both games I called you scum, both games you ignored me. I'm not letting you get away with the same shit twice Lemon. Defend yourself and start posting useful content. If you're town (yeah rite), stop being a mindless sheep and analyze rather then going "fw is lying so i'm going to follow drh mindlessly". When did you call me scum? | ||
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You are just flinging shit on me because you got FoS'ed and you want to cover your ass. I don't think you are scum...at least I don't yet, but bring some REAL arguments to the table as to why I am scummy and I will answer to them, but right now all of your reasons for how scummy I am are either just plain wrong or rely on the fact that you trust protact and I don't, which I believe to be a reasonable choice considering his various claims all seem like risky scum gambles or attempts to save himself from a lynch. Also fuck you my jokes aren't bad. | ||
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And if so what is the punishment? | ||
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Flamewheel (this we knew) Ver Incognito | ||
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No one is allowed to PM. This is 3 people communicating outside of the game. I believe that this is cheating. | ||
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This means that, in my eyes, Coagulation is almost certainly mafia, and it is likely that LSB is mafia as well. | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:01 BrownBear wrote: Gmarshal: 13 Lanaia Robellicose Coagulation OriginalName AirbladeOrange M0nsterChef Kenpachi Serejai Barundar Lemonwalrus GMarshal tnkted Latrommi List of people that voted for GMarhal during his campaign, not sure if we will have the whole mafia team here (doubtful) but good chance there are at least a few in there. | ||
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Can another dead guy pm me the irc information please? | ||
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