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I won't have problems like last time, I swear. >__< | ||
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I have time! | ||
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Anyways, since there's no voting thread, I guess we sit tight for a bit? And read over posts, of course. | ||
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If I had control of the lynch... possibly one of the inactives. FoS on Eiii for the arbitrary number of assassins (he said three iirc, right?) But even if I did have control of the lynch, there's far too many players that have not posted to formulate a concrete decision. | ||
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On April 10 2011 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: when you say fos you're implying what they said somehow implies they are mafia so i'd like you to explain that because it makes absolutely zero sense Where in my post, if you're directing this to me, did I state "mafia FoS?" FoS means that I am just watching him. Whether we share the same definition for a mafia term would just boil down into an argument of nothing (and inevitably spam/clutter), so can we avoid that? from mafiawiki "... used to formally indicate 'you're being watched.' " | ||
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You can have a completely different definition of FoS in your head compared to the one I have in mine. I understand that you like spamming up threads (you even have a reputation of it), but really? What are you even pointing at here? Am I mafia for misusing FoS in your opinion? Am I mafia for FoSing and assassin, when GMarshal prodded me to speak? Yes I am new and I would rather not speak because I'd make a lot of mistakes that would lead to scum reads from the players that can't differentiate from scum and bad townie play. Stop arguing about silly things, it's getting you nowhere. If you somehow deduce that I'm scum from senseless arguments like these  kudos to you for failing. | ||
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On April 10 2011 15:02 Conversion wrote: Yes I am new and I would rather not speak because I'd make a lot of mistakes that would lead to scum reads from the players that can't differentiate from scum and bad townie play. Thanks, I like to know that I am terrible. You're a great help, Mr. "if you think someone is an assassin announce it" I never realized there was a part in there that said "if you're a terrible poster, I'm going to attack you for FoSing an assassin." | ||
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About to go to school now, but can anyone tell me more about DrH's town play? Is he usually as aggressive? I know Barundar posted some things already, but has there been a case where DrH played an aggressive day 1 as townie? | ||
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However, I am not going to let something so trivial deter my vote. He also taught me something, albeit small, most of you attempting to help have not by pointing out that my defense was not very town-like. I'm very confident that, after reading Doc's posts, DocH is green. Though I disagree with his first lynch (kav), I feel like a more experienced townie in a mayor position would be more beneficial. I have not been able to read his past games- and no one answered my questions- so I'll take the word from a few of you that DocH actually does have an aggressive town meta in a few of his games. With that said, ##vote DoctorHelvetica | ||
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Just cause I don't like someone doesn't mean I should let it affect my decision on what I believe is best for town.  no hard feelings. | ||
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Unvoted and voted proct. hoping for some kind of vote switch before day ends... | ||
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Yes I played rather poorly, but are you aeriously accusing me of being scum? Maybe I was too wishy washy with the way I voted, saying that I had the town's best interest, but whatever floats your boat. I was only trying to benefit town with what I read in this shitstorm of a thread. | ||
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On April 14 2011 01:24 Barundar wrote: I'm not sure I agree with you chaoser that it's smarter to use a lynch on coag than to let protac die to assassin. But I agree with you that we shouldn't stop scum hunting. Jaminez I want to hear your opinion on this situation and your mafia/town reads. Same for you conversion. Currently at school right now (using my itouch). Reading through what some of the power players said about protact claiming, I think he's telling the truth. Why would he claim DT if he is scum? I don't think, if he were to be lynched after lynching coag, it's a favorable trade. Also, assassins can't use ANY powers night 1, right? I'm suspicious of people who are defending coag. I am suspicious of you and GM. your confidence in your conviction against me and when you defend coag is very suspicious. in your analysis of me being "red," you don't even accout for the fact that I'm a shitty town player. you also ignore the fact that other townies (newer ones) played as wishy washy as i did. GM because he's been defending and arguing against the wrong people, in my opinion. It's a weak suspicion that should grow stronger or weaker as the game progresses. | ||
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On March 26 2011 03:53 BrownBear wrote: 3RD-PARTY ROLES ASSASSIN: Each night STARTING NIGHT 2, you may choose to either do nothing, kill someone, or call in R1CH's favor. You may not call in the favor and kill someone in the same night. You win when all other Assassins have been eliminated. You return Assassin to rolechecks. So either flamewheel is fake claiming DT and trading 1:1 for coag (of all people, according to people here coag's meta is basically spam and be useless?) I'm confused here  | ||
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I never got modkilled for inactivity, I asked for a replacement due to lack of time (and personal problems). And I'm sorry I can't be more active, but I'm just going to scum slip without even knowing. I'm a terrible player and this is my first game (why I played a 40 player normal game as my first game, beats me.) I'm not particularly vocal irl and I'm not particularly vocal on the internet. So I apologize if you get a scum read on me, and I hope you change your mind, but I have no idea how to go about defending myself. | ||
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Baaah. | ||
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 shit. mistake after mistake.. | ||
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If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him. I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me. If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me. But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever. | ||
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I'm really, really trying to analyze someone but I don't know how to analyze 1) lurkers that post as little as I did or 2) both players I tried to analyze seem freaking pro town. Just off the top of my head, people who haven't been contributing as much as I did (none) 22.The_Roist 25.jaminz 30.MetalFace 36.Robellicose 37.Mig 39.Conversion Now I believe Metalface (?) and someone else (was it Robellicose) were bodyguard. I doubt can be mafia. There's no way a scum team, with a few experienced players in their team, would allow jaminz to lurk for so long, making four(!!) posts in the entire thread. He hasn't really disrupted ideal town environment, just posted a few things here and there. M0nsterchef looks really suspicious to me. + Show Spoiler [My first attempt at analysis] + + Show Spoiler [voting for GMarshal] + On April 11 2011 08:20 M0nsterChef wrote: Alright, so I made a really noob mistake of not posting a bunch before I make a vote. It's my first game here, and while I know that shouldn't be an excuse, it's the only one I can come up with. Anyways, as for questions What are your thoughts on the current situation? Just reading the past pages of posts has made me realize I need to be more careful with what I post, and I should post more often. Why do you like GMarshal the best for mayor? -Seems to be more analyst oriented -Is willing to consider the lynch of kavdragon -Seems to be "Pro-town" -Protactium seems to care too much about the assassin game. -Pandain is trying to get Protactium to be mayor by making people support him through his dt reveal, I don't think this is smart. Why don't you like the other candidates? -Now that I voted for GMarshal , AirbladeOrange, RedFF say I should be lynched. -Protactium has said he is not town. On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote: If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW? Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks? A template to set up for his "tracker" claim On April 14 2011 08:12 M0nsterChef wrote: I'm a tracker. I tracked RedFF and he didn't go anywhere. His "tracker" claim. GMarshal even facepalmed at his tracker claim to make it seem legitimate + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2011 07:28 M0nsterChef wrote: I think the vig hit is a lot more valueable than that, and should be used to actually kill a confirmed scum (assuming there are vigis in the game). Also, the mafia do not have "little incentive to kill Prot". He's just another player to eliminate and killing him will help them win the game. He soft defends LSB's plan to vig shot Coagulation. On April 15 2011 11:51 M0nsterChef wrote: #Vote Coagulation Although I really think LSB might be sum with his rather anti town plan. Busses Coag, trying to blend in with town. He even thinks Coag is a waste of a vig shot, but is important enough to warrant a lynch. Along with this, we have Barundar, a pro-town player, claiming to be roleblocked twice. M0nsterchef, like the many other times he showed up to post, defends himself with a "I was roleblocked" claim. Now, regardless if the roleblock thing is true or not, his posting habits and behavior seem incredibly scummy. He posted a grand total of three times after shit went down in this thread. He doesn't even vote for GMarshal, which was either to not seem like a sheep or he was inactive to take his "bus" off coag. | ||
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On April 17 2011 11:35 Kenpachi wrote: yea.. no Monsterchef is pretty much town regardless his scummy play is he town for making a tracker claim? can you explain why instead of playing your usual "im gonna post stupid 1 liners without doing anything so some other player can explain my reasoning?" really not helping me out here. | ||
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Reasoning is on page 154. | ||
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On April 18 2011 08:20 AirbladeOrange wrote: I agree on one of TranceStorm's posts but disagree on another one. I think conversion was relatively scummy throughout the game. No huge tells but he is not helping the town although it seems like is is trying to (or faking trying to). I'm pretty sure someone did a decent analysis earlier of him that was pretty convincing. I stated earlier that all of jaminz's "scummy" posts really point much more to him being a novice at the game than anything else. The same goes for M0nsterchef. I had a strong scum read on him early in the game but once he blue claimed I reversed my thinking on him. I believe him to be an inexperienced player who felt like he had to claim his blue status in order to avoid being lynched. It's a perfectly rational thing to do even if it's not the smartest thing to do. I think the issue that makes me think conversion is the summiest looking player we have is the fact that he is advocating the lynch of M0nsterchef, who I think we should believe to be blue. He already voted for M0nsterChef as well. Mafia want blues dead and it would be better to kill blues with a lynch so they can focus on killing other players with their KP. I'm placing my vote on conversion. SO let me get this straight. 1) you don't want to lynch jaminz because his "scummy" posts point him to being a novice, but that doesn't apply to me? 2) since you "believe" (what the fuck?) m0nster is blue, you think I'm scummy? rofl. okay. so if I claim vet early on to avoid a lynch and behave like a lurking scum, you'd still trust me? great play. 3) you don't even try to defend him by taking apart my analysis. nice to know a few things about you. next time I play a game with you I'll claim a blue role so you ignore any analysis or post behavior and just believe me to be some newb blue role claimer. | ||
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ahhh shit. | ||
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can you specify the exact quote where he lied? | ||
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well you either have mafia repeatedly call me scum every time I make a post or repeatedly call me scum because I'm inactive.. wtf? what else do I do? I have no idea how to defend myself. idc if I get lynched because that's just a mislynch for town that won't even matter. oh look, we lost an inactive townie. big fucking woop, mirite? | ||
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AO, if he is scum, tried to tunnel me and get me lynched because I am obviously the best non-scum target for a lynch. Inactive? Yup. Shitty posting? Check. Scummy behavior? Check. People already pressuring me and having suspicions about me? Check. Voting AO. | ||
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It doesn't make sense, does it? | ||
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Just a mere bodybag more or less in this game anyways. | ||
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