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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
April 13 2011 07:22 GMT
#1781
Protact...who is 'we'?
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
April 13 2011 07:24 GMT
#1782
^^ occam's razor says his posts clump up like that because he's on the computer at those times.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 07:27 GMT
#1783
On April 13 2011 16:22 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Protact...who is 'we'?

the town, the people playing this game, looking too had for a slip that isn't there imo
RIP Aaliyah
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 13 2011 07:30 GMT
#1784
Im Vigi

I got an easy solution here. WATCH ASSASSINS RAPE HIM NIGHT 2. He Flips assassin or scum IM CLEARED. ITS SO SIMPLE.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 13 2011 07:30 GMT
#1785
sorry i ment Vet
i got my V's mixed up
Im fucking infuriated that he would fucking lie like this.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
April 13 2011 07:30 GMT
#1786
His statement doesn't make sense if you replace we with the town. Not only that, he specifically differentiates 'we' from 'the town' when he says "we would announce our checks to town"

I doubt he actually scum slipped because slips like that are probably exceedingly rare, I just want him to explain it.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 13 2011 07:31 GMT
#1787
Let's see if your hook is real or not

##vote coag
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
April 13 2011 07:32 GMT
#1788
On April 13 2011 16:22 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 15:56 Mig wrote:
I don't really understand why prot didn't just run for mayor normally instead of trying the assassin gambit. Everyone agrees hes a very strong player with excellent analysis, it seems like he would be a great mayor just as a normal townie. If he runs this gambit and it fails then he has to convince the town he was faking before and even if he accomplishes that the assassins will still likely target him. And I want to add I did say earlier that it would be in prots best interest to lie about the number of assassins no matter what because it might trick the assassins into voting someone else.

So I still believe that prot is an assassin, however I think there's a good chance coag is mafia. If prot used his 1 dt check last night and hit a red I think the obvious play for him would be to role claim dt. Then if we lynch that player he called out and its right he can ask for medic protection.

Why didn't I run for mayor normally? First of all, I wanted to mix it up a bit, and second, it gives us way more information than we would have had otherwise. Like I said, an assassin claim provokes a mafia reaction in order for them to avoid an assassin mayor/pardoner. Even if I die tonight, its well worth it. I'm pretty confident you'd all be pretty lost right now if I hadn't drawn out the mafia.


drawn out which mafia? you've put out coag, he hasn't flipped yet, but having read his posts myself he was not high on my suspect list.

Also, 'mix it up a bit' sounds retarded. You coulda won the mayor campaign easily with zero claims, most townies were complaining about how stupid all the other campaigns were and EVEN AFTER CLAIMING BLACK you came in an easy 3rd place...

It's definitely suspicious that IF you are an assassin, this is your only viable play today. Even more so that there wasn't actually a good reason to claim assassin in the first place as a DT. I think that, as you said yourself, you got assassin, didn't like the role, and tried to make the best of the situation.

IN ANY CASE, I'm not going to let this prevent scumhunting at least for the sake of our vigilantes. i.e. even if we lynch coag, the remaining vigis might have something to go on.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 13 2011 07:32 GMT
#1789
On April 13 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
Im Vigi

I got an easy solution here. WATCH ASSASSINS RAPE HIM NIGHT 2. He Flips assassin or scum IM CLEARED. ITS SO SIMPLE.



On April 13 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
sorry i ment Vet
i got my V's mixed up
Im fucking infuriated that he would fucking lie like this.


lol
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 13 2011 07:36 GMT
#1790
You guys are really gonna buy this shit?
"we would announce our checks to town" What the fuck?
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
April 13 2011 07:36 GMT
#1791
On April 13 2011 16:13 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 16:08 Protactinium wrote:
On April 13 2011 15:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Today on the shitter I thought "flamewheel is either assassin or detective making some ballsy play"

however i don't believe you are bad enough to DT claim day 2 on a check, I mean really? that's textbook shit. This pandain stuff sounds like mumbo jumbo you made up after the fact.

Here's what I think. I think you're the assassin. I think you came to the same conclusion as me:
Coagulation and Kitaman27 are the other two assasins.

You think you can win very quickly, if coagulation is lynched and you burn your hit on Kitaman27. I'm not convinced. This is just very odd behavior and I wouldn't expect this from a player like you of all people.

I'll look back on coagulations posts and crosscheck with your analysis tomorrow. Still working on homework tonight but I'm skeptical right off the bat. Please elaborate more on your DT gambit ESPECIALLY why you decided to claim?

Why not simply make a case? Everyone believed you were trying to help town as the assassin? Why not just say "look coagulation is probably mafia here is my case as to why" and get the lynch onto him? As I see it you have a huge incentive to see Coag dead if you got the same read on him I did and you are indeed the assassin : /

It's illogical not to claim. Do you really think that in a game without PMs and in a situation where I'm going to get shot tomorrow night by Assassins I'm not going to tell the town that I've found a red?

I have to claim at this point. Otherwise I'm just going to get shot by Asssassins during Night 2, and there's your best blue down the drain. There's honestly nothing else to it: I either claim and prove myself by having Coagulation lynched, thus drawing Medic protection so that I can continue searching, or I die to Assassins Night 2.


Your claim, (the detective one) showed that the only people in the game that knew you weren't an assassin were the actual assassins, since you put in a fake number of assassins. If this reasoning were true, you would not be afraid of assassins killing you tomorrow night.

No, I'm still afraid. Remember that the assassins are just as likely to be confused about my alignment than I am. So far, it seems like I've been playing a pretty convincing assassin. Its very possible that the assassins could still think I'm an assassin, and that I was merely lying to the town about the number of assassins. The guess on 3 assassins was intended to throw a wrench in other assassins' analysis, but it is nowhere near foolproof. The chances were better that I would get away with not drawing their attention if I said three rather than four, but there's still the possibility that there are actually 3 assassins, or that the assassins think I just lied.. I'm not actually safe from Assassin shots until it's confirmed to everybody that I'm actually DT.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 13 2011 07:38 GMT
#1792
YOUR NOT A DT
WHAT THE FUCK
YOU KNOW YOU MADE ALL THIS SHIT UP
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
April 13 2011 07:38 GMT
#1793
On April 13 2011 16:30 Lemonwalrus wrote:
His statement doesn't make sense if you replace we with the town. Not only that, he specifically differentiates 'we' from 'the town' when he says "we would announce our checks to town"

I doubt he actually scum slipped because slips like that are probably exceedingly rare, I just want him to explain it.

Whoops? It's late and I'm tired and I've started talking to my roommate about this game and what's going on. Too much writing for one day gets to you (MSL post coming out soon).
And so, we find the Sublime.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
April 13 2011 07:41 GMT
#1794
I really would like to know what your plan was prot if you used your dt check and it came back green. You would basically be fucked right? Unless you called out someone else as red and then just hoped to be right.

It just seems like such a massive risk to take playing the assassins gambit when you already have such a powerful role.
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aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
April 13 2011 07:41 GMT
#1795
by the way protact you deserve this for putting horang2 on your PR this month. seriously wtf?
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
April 13 2011 07:42 GMT
#1796
j/k i love your PR's, you've done a great job with them
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 13 2011 07:43 GMT
#1797
On April 13 2011 16:36 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 16:13 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On April 13 2011 16:08 Protactinium wrote:
On April 13 2011 15:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Today on the shitter I thought "flamewheel is either assassin or detective making some ballsy play"

however i don't believe you are bad enough to DT claim day 2 on a check, I mean really? that's textbook shit. This pandain stuff sounds like mumbo jumbo you made up after the fact.

Here's what I think. I think you're the assassin. I think you came to the same conclusion as me:
Coagulation and Kitaman27 are the other two assasins.

You think you can win very quickly, if coagulation is lynched and you burn your hit on Kitaman27. I'm not convinced. This is just very odd behavior and I wouldn't expect this from a player like you of all people.

I'll look back on coagulations posts and crosscheck with your analysis tomorrow. Still working on homework tonight but I'm skeptical right off the bat. Please elaborate more on your DT gambit ESPECIALLY why you decided to claim?

Why not simply make a case? Everyone believed you were trying to help town as the assassin? Why not just say "look coagulation is probably mafia here is my case as to why" and get the lynch onto him? As I see it you have a huge incentive to see Coag dead if you got the same read on him I did and you are indeed the assassin : /

It's illogical not to claim. Do you really think that in a game without PMs and in a situation where I'm going to get shot tomorrow night by Assassins I'm not going to tell the town that I've found a red?

I have to claim at this point. Otherwise I'm just going to get shot by Asssassins during Night 2, and there's your best blue down the drain. There's honestly nothing else to it: I either claim and prove myself by having Coagulation lynched, thus drawing Medic protection so that I can continue searching, or I die to Assassins Night 2.


Your claim, (the detective one) showed that the only people in the game that knew you weren't an assassin were the actual assassins, since you put in a fake number of assassins. If this reasoning were true, you would not be afraid of assassins killing you tomorrow night.

No, I'm still afraid. Remember that the assassins are just as likely to be confused about my alignment than I am. So far, it seems like I've been playing a pretty convincing assassin. Its very possible that the assassins could still think I'm an assassin, and that I was merely lying to the town about the number of assassins. The guess on 3 assassins was intended to throw a wrench in other assassins' analysis, but it is nowhere near foolproof. The chances were better that I would get away with not drawing their attention if I said three rather than four, but there's still the possibility that there are actually 3 assassins, or that the assassins think I just lied.. I'm not actually safe from Assassin shots until it's confirmed to everybody that I'm actually DT.

It's pretty obvious that at least one assassin will find it worthwhile to throw a hammer at him after he claimed black day 1.

On April 13 2011 16:38 Coagulation wrote:
YOUR NOT A DT
WHAT THE FUCK
YOU KNOW YOU MADE ALL THIS SHIT UP

On April 12 2011 13:30 BrownBear wrote:
Can we cut the allcaps posts please?

Freaking out isn't a help to any case.
Who dat ninja?
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
April 13 2011 07:43 GMT
#1798
On April 13 2011 16:38 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 16:30 Lemonwalrus wrote:
His statement doesn't make sense if you replace we with the town. Not only that, he specifically differentiates 'we' from 'the town' when he says "we would announce our checks to town"

I doubt he actually scum slipped because slips like that are probably exceedingly rare, I just want him to explain it.

Whoops? It's late and I'm tired and I've started talking to my roommate about this game and what's going on. Too much writing for one day gets to you (MSL post coming out soon).

I'd buy that if you had made the we slip in one sentence, but you made it in three consecutive sentences.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 13 2011 07:46 GMT
#1799
What this really comes down to is that protact and coag can't be on the same team. One of them is lieing. Congrats to us, we are getting us a scum.

As for who of them to kill first, I'm going to go with my read on coag, which has been pro town so far, despite what protact has written. Protact is writing a long story to explain his actions, and I'm going to go with the simplest explanation: He has been lieing and is now throwing another gambit to avoid dieing.

Both the simplest explanation and my read points away from coag being scum, that's how I will vote.
Bartundar
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 13 2011 07:48 GMT
#1800
Why the fuck would a experienced player like FW ever claim to be an assassin when hes a DT. Do you really think he would put that kind of heat on himself if he was honestly a PRO TOWN ROLE.
This whole thing reeks of desperate scum
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