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United States3308 Posts
April 15 2011 04:54 GMT
#2651
Voting GMarshal because I suck and I'm sheeping.

Baaah.
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United States3308 Posts
April 15 2011 11:08 GMT
#2836
Is voting last minute considered scummy?

shit. mistake after mistake..
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United States3308 Posts
April 16 2011 15:18 GMT
#3050
Woulf it even be detrimental to mislynch today?

If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him.

I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me.

If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me.

But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever.
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United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 02:27 GMT
#3078
I'm reading the thread.

I'm really, really trying to analyze someone but I don't know how to analyze

1) lurkers that post as little as I did

or

2) both players I tried to analyze seem freaking pro town.

Just off the top of my head, people who haven't been contributing as much as I did (none)

22.The_Roist
25.jaminz
30.MetalFace
36.Robellicose
37.Mig
39.Conversion

Now I believe Metalface (?) and someone else (was it Robellicose) were bodyguard.

I doubt can be mafia. There's no way a scum team, with a few experienced players in their team, would allow jaminz to lurk for so long, making four(!!) posts in the entire thread. He hasn't really disrupted ideal town environment, just posted a few things here and there.

M0nsterchef looks really suspicious to me.
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On April 11 2011 08:20 M0nsterChef wrote:
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On April 11 2011 07:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On April 11 2011 07:32 M0nsterChef wrote:
I read the thread and made a vote based on who I think I deserves the role the most. Am I not allowed to vote?


No, but it looks highly suspicious that you don't post any thoughts/opinions (or anything at all really) since the game has started, and then come in and vote.

What are your thoughts on the current situation?

Why do you like GMarshal the best for mayor?

Why don't you like the other candidates?



Alright, so I made a really noob mistake of not posting a bunch before I make a vote. It's my first game here, and while I know that shouldn't be an excuse, it's the only one I can come up with.

Anyways, as for questions

What are your thoughts on the current situation?

Just reading the past pages of posts has made me realize I need to be more careful with what I post, and I should post more often.

Why do you like GMarshal the best for mayor?

-Seems to be more analyst oriented
-Is willing to consider the lynch of kavdragon
-Seems to be "Pro-town"
-Protactium seems to care too much about the assassin game.
-Pandain is trying to get Protactium to be mayor by making people support him through his dt reveal, I don't think this is smart.

Why don't you like the other candidates?
-Now that I voted for GMarshal , AirbladeOrange, RedFF say I should be lynched.
-Protactium has said he is not town.





On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote:
If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW?

Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks?


A template to set up for his "tracker" claim

On April 14 2011 08:12 M0nsterChef wrote:
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On April 14 2011 08:10 GMarshal wrote:
On April 14 2011 08:06 M0nsterChef wrote:
On April 14 2011 07:45 redFF wrote:
On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote:
If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW?

Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks?


Why do you ask, are u dt/tracker? How about you post your opinions on anything for once. Do you trust Flamewheel? Do you think we should lynch coag? What do you think of the huge post i made trying to prove to other people you are scum??? You haven't made one post talking about your stance on any issues, come on!!! THIS GUY IS FUCKING SCUM


I'm not scum.


Wonderful defense, I love how you indexed it and everything so I could easily refernce the different points.

Theres a well bodied accusation against you out there. Please try to defend yourself better than this.


I'm a tracker. I tracked RedFF and he didn't go anywhere.


His "tracker" claim. GMarshal even facepalmed at his tracker claim to make it seem legitimate

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On April 15 2011 07:28 M0nsterChef wrote:
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On April 15 2011 07:14 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Read this

So, you, yes you. Why are you lynching Coagulation? Are you trusting the words of a Mafia who lied about being an Assassin, and has been Proven by Gmarshall to be lying about his role of detective?

Why are you lynching coagulation? Because you think he's red?

How about this. A compromise.

The Plan:
Today we lynch Prot
Tonight we will call for a Vig hit on Coagulation

If Coagulation is hit and survives the night, that means he is vet. If he isn't vet, he'll just be dead. Win win.

Why this is preferable that letting Prot live
Contrary to popular belief, Mafia and assassins have little incentive to kill Prot. This is because they know that if they let Prot live, he'll just be lynched. This is good for them because it takes heat off of them for one day.

We will need to lynch Prot one way or the other. If we do it this way according to plan, we 1) Save a lynch. 2) If coag is saying the truth, we'll have 1 more townie.


I think the vig hit is a lot more valueable than that, and should be used to actually kill a confirmed scum (assuming there are vigis in the game).

Also, the mafia do not have "little incentive to kill Prot". He's just another player to eliminate and killing him will help them win the game.


He soft defends LSB's plan to vig shot Coagulation.

On April 15 2011 11:51 M0nsterChef wrote:
#Vote Coagulation

Although I really think LSB might be sum with his rather anti town plan.


Busses Coag, trying to blend in with town. He even thinks Coag is a waste of a vig shot, but is important enough to warrant a lynch.


Along with this, we have Barundar, a pro-town player, claiming to be roleblocked twice.

M0nsterchef, like the many other times he showed up to post, defends himself with a "I was roleblocked" claim.

Now, regardless if the roleblock thing is true or not, his posting habits and behavior seem incredibly scummy. He posted a grand total of three times after shit went down in this thread.

He doesn't even vote for GMarshal, which was either to not seem like a sheep or he was inactive to take his "bus" off coag.
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United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 02:28 GMT
#3079
EBWOP: I doubt jaminz can be mafia**
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United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 02:29 GMT
#3080
Sorry for the random spoilers in some of my "analysis," if you can even call it that.
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United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 02:42 GMT
#3082
On April 17 2011 11:35 Kenpachi wrote:
yea.. no Monsterchef is pretty much town regardless his scummy play


is he town for making a tracker claim?

can you explain why instead of playing your usual "im gonna post stupid 1 liners without doing anything so some other player can explain my reasoning?"

really not helping me out here.
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United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 13:13 GMT
#3102
##Vote: M0nsterChef

Reasoning is on page 154.
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United States3308 Posts
April 17 2011 13:18 GMT
#3103
Also, is DocH busy? He hasn't been contributing much aside from one liners recently.
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United States3308 Posts
April 18 2011 00:59 GMT
#3138
On April 18 2011 08:20 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I agree on one of TranceStorm's posts but disagree on another one.

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On April 17 2011 02:02 TranceStorm wrote:
On April 17 2011 00:18 Conversion wrote:
Woulf it even be detrimental to mislynch today?

If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him.

I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me.

If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me.

But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever.

I find your responses to being put under pressure very troubling though. In the very beginning, you seemed to be more active and willing to question the motives of other players. After Barundur started to put pressure on you, you put up the excuse that you were new and wanted to avoid being seen as scum repeatedly - until we've reached this moment where you are basically saying "lynch me, but you'll regret it!". To me, the fact that you have withdrawn as the game moved on is highly suspicious especially since each post seems to be a justification as to why you shouldn't have to make contentful posts in the future.


I think conversion was relatively scummy throughout the game. No huge tells but he is not helping the town although it seems like is is trying to (or faking trying to). I'm pretty sure someone did a decent analysis earlier of him that was pretty convincing.


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On April 18 2011 07:54 TranceStorm wrote:
I'm going to vote for jaminz for today's lynch. Mig's post on jaminz is especially incriminating for me on jaminz' remarkable change in posting behavior. Considering how helpful he seemed to be in the previous game that Mig spotted (Haunted Mafia), you would expect that jaminz would contribute a little more in the current circumstances.

jaminz is a much stronger candidate than kevconsim for me. Reading from his previous games, his contribution always seems to be rather limited which makes him an extremely uncertain lynch target in my opinion.

On the issue of the roleblocks, I think we should wait another day before we make any judgments on whether m0nster or Barundur are lying. It seems especially strange that the number of people roleblocked should go from 1 to 2 (it seems far more likely for 2 people to have been roleblocked on the first night and only 1 on the 2nd night considering the collection of hits between the assassins). If there are indeed 2 roleblockers, why would they choose to not roleblock on the first day?


I stated earlier that all of jaminz's "scummy" posts really point much more to him being a novice at the game than anything else. The same goes for M0nsterchef. I had a strong scum read on him early in the game but once he blue claimed I reversed my thinking on him. I believe him to be an inexperienced player who felt like he had to claim his blue status in order to avoid being lynched. It's a perfectly rational thing to do even if it's not the smartest thing to do.

I think the issue that makes me think conversion is the summiest looking player we have is the fact that he is advocating the lynch of M0nsterchef, who I think we should believe to be blue. He already voted for M0nsterChef as well. Mafia want blues dead and it would be better to kill blues with a lynch so they can focus on killing other players with their KP.

I'm placing my vote on conversion.


SO let me get this straight.

1) you don't want to lynch jaminz because his "scummy" posts point him to being a novice, but that doesn't apply to me?
2) since you "believe" (what the fuck?) m0nster is blue, you think I'm scummy? rofl. okay. so if I claim vet early on to avoid a lynch and behave like a lurking scum, you'd still trust me? great play.
3) you don't even try to defend him by taking apart my analysis.

nice to know a few things about you. next time I play a game with you I'll claim a blue role so you ignore any analysis or post behavior and just believe me to be some newb blue role claimer.
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United States3308 Posts
April 19 2011 05:18 GMT
#3181
better edit that really quickly.

=/
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United States3308 Posts
April 19 2011 05:19 GMT
#3182
and I supposed I look really scummy now because I analyzed and voted for M0nsterchef, the tracker.

ahhh shit.
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United States3308 Posts
April 21 2011 04:06 GMT
#3334
well im gonna get lynched sooner or later anyways so.. whatever

can you specify the exact quote where he lied?
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United States3308 Posts
April 21 2011 04:15 GMT
#3340
On April 21 2011 13:11 chaoser wrote:
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On April 21 2011 13:06 Conversion wrote:
well im gonna get lynched sooner or later anyways so.. whatever

can you specify the exact quote where he lied?


lol...did conversion just give up?


well you either have mafia repeatedly call me scum every time I make a post or repeatedly call me scum because I'm inactive.. wtf?

what else do I do? I have no idea how to defend myself. idc if I get lynched because that's just a mislynch for town that won't even matter.

oh look, we lost an inactive townie. big fucking woop, mirite?
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United States3308 Posts
April 21 2011 04:15 GMT
#3341
EBOWP: mafia or pro-town repeatedly call me
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United States3308 Posts
April 21 2011 04:16 GMT
#3342
... EBWOP**
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United States3308 Posts
April 22 2011 05:28 GMT
#3373
I'm okay with it
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United States3308 Posts
April 22 2011 22:23 GMT
#3393
Frustrated townie, but believe whatever you want to believe.
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United States3308 Posts
April 23 2011 00:18 GMT
#3416
I think Barundar voted to pressure me (he's been pretty consistent with that throughout the game)

AO, if he is scum, tried to tunnel me and get me lynched because I am obviously the best non-scum target for a lynch.

Inactive? Yup.
Shitty posting? Check.
Scummy behavior? Check.
People already pressuring me and having suspicions about me? Check.

Voting AO.
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United States3308 Posts
April 23 2011 20:09 GMT
#3444
If AO is mafia, and I as well, why would he tunnel me so hard and try to bus me when there's four mafia left?

It doesn't make sense, does it?
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