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On April 20 2011 10:41 jaminz wrote: Yet to vote:
15.TranceStorm 18.urashimakt 22.The_Roist 26.DarthThienAn 27.DoctorHelvetica 29.AirbladeOrange
Everyone who's voted so far has voted for DropBear except for DropBear, who voted for Chaoser Can't blame a man for playing Portal 2.
##Vote DropBear
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True that. BB, I say don't modkill anyone for this vote. Couldn't we have skipped to night 24 hours earlier, or are we on a very specific schedule? Don't really see the harm in that if the exact hour is maintained and we don't punish inactives immediately.
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It annoys me that we had 3 kills tonight but no vigi claim.
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Hey guys, sorry about being inactive for the past 2-3 days. I've just been busy with personal stuff. Luckily, the thread doesn't seem to have moved too much, which makes catching up so much easier.
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On April 20 2011 08:43 jaminz wrote: Those were just some basic notes I made, as I'm not totally sure what I should be looking for when analyzing someone. I guess the fact that he's also posted relatively little, but mentioned early on that he had played mafia before could point to him being a mafia player trying to lie low though. I can explain myself. I played a few times of TL Mafia roughly 2 years ago where I was an extreme lurker. Ever since then, I've played a few games of mafia on some websites where the games only last roughly 30 minutes long. With my current time commitments, I'm finding it a bit difficult to read up on the thread and respond at the same rate that other players are doing it at.
Speaking of which, I had voted for you earlier because you had such a dramatic change in personality between a prior game that you had played and this current game. However, you seem to have returned to posting helpful analysis so I'm willing to trust you if you explain what caused your relative inactivity earlier in the game.
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chaoser -> Town DoctorHelvetica -> Town bumatlarge -> Town Barundar -> Town kitaman27 -> Watcher Kenpachi -> Town The_Roist -> Very Inactive -> Bodyguard MetalFace -> Very Inactive -> Bodyguard AirbladeOrange -> Town
My 100% "I believe them to be town" list
Kenpachi finally made the list because DropBear tried so damn hard to get him lynched. AO made the list cause GM tried damn hard to get him lynched. I dunno if that was a bus or not but a day 1 bus wasn't really needed since people were asking for ON/LSB, a green, to be lynched.
Here's my maybe town list:
jaminz -> Very Inactive -> Town? TranceStorm -> Very Inactive -> Town?
AO says jaminz is clean so I guess we'll be ??? on that call. AO checked? watched? tracked? Who knows.
TS is townie in my eyes due to his posting in thread, I will go in depth to that later.
DarthThienAn -> very Inactive Conversion -> very Inactive ilovejonn redFF->Zorkmid urashimakt
Out of these five, three are mafia. I say conversion. He's very iffy/fearful in his posting, continually playing down his play and being apologetic. I don't think you can go two posts in a row without seeing him go sorry guys, I'm bad lawl. He joins the GM vote very late
Fair enough to keep an eye on me. I understand that my defensiveness towards DrH's pokes wasn't the most town thing to do.
He backs off his pressure very quickly and then says sorry...and then goes on to vote for him
GM because he's been defending and arguing against the wrong people, in my opinion. It's a weak suspicion that should grow stronger or weaker as the game progresses.
wishy washy FoS of GM.
Woulf it even be detrimental to mislynch today?
If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him.
I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me.
If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me.
But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever.
Suggests maybe we should just mislynch, cause, why the fuck not. Says we should lynch lurkers like him, but then says, well, but not me, cause I'm town. There's no reason for a townie to write something like this. Townies would just go, lynch the lurkers. end of statement.
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On April 12 2011 20:00 Conversion wrote: I'm fine with a DT check waste on me with anything. You'll get a townie read and, unless for some retarded reason you think mafia will make me godfather, no other information.
Yes I played rather poorly, but are you aeriously accusing me of being scum? Maybe I was too wishy washy with the way I voted, saying that I had the town's best interest, but whatever floats your boat.
I was only trying to benefit town with what I read in this shitstorm of a thread.
On April 14 2011 20:32 Conversion wrote: Before I go to school, I'd just like to correct Barundar.
I never got modkilled for inactivity, I asked for a replacement due to lack of time (and personal problems).
And I'm sorry I can't be more active, but I'm just going to scum slip without even knowing. I'm a terrible player and this is my first game (why I played a 40 player normal game as my first game, beats me.)
I'm not particularly vocal irl and I'm not particularly vocal on the internet.
So I apologize if you get a scum read on me, and I hope you change your mind, but I have no idea how to go about defending myself.
On April 15 2011 13:54 Conversion wrote: Voting GMarshal because I suck and I'm sheeping.
Baaah.
On April 15 2011 20:08 Conversion wrote:Is voting last minute considered scummy?  shit. mistake after mistake..
On April 17 2011 00:18 Conversion wrote: Woulf it even be detrimental to mislynch today?
If not, I'll be fine getting lynched since Barundar seems to believe that I'm mafia because of my play, regardless of what I tell him.
I'm detrimental to town at this point and I don't even know how to make a post without someone analyzing me/questioning me.
If you guys don't care about lynching mafia (as we lost quite a few over the past day/night), might as well lynch a lurker, like me.
But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever.
On April 19 2011 14:19 Conversion wrote: and I supposed I look really scummy now because I analyzed and voted for M0nsterchef, the tracker.
ahhh shit.
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My guess is conversion is the second roleblocker. I did nothing good day 1 and still get roleblocked, guess it was my case against him during the night that did the trick...
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Most likely scum. Look at the tone in all those posts. "ahhhh shit." "But then again, lynching me gets town nowhere, but whatever." lol wat "shit. mistake after mistake.." why so scared? "Baaah."
horrible.
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Why was I the only one who actually voted for conversion earlier?
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Because kevconsim and jaminz looked scummier than Conversion before? jaminz and Conversion still haven't flipped, if you wanna earn town cred present a case thanks. All I've seen you done is say "why conversion?" "I don't think jaminz is red believe me." And then go from that to "Conversion is scummy."
On April 16 2011 15:36 AirbladeOrange wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 15:30 Barundar wrote: Yeah bum, when i hear something retarded like "i wouldnt hesitate to lynch barundar to find out exactly whats going on" i get pissed off. If you have a problem with my play crtizise it or analyse me or whatever, but don't give me shit for informing town of a roleblock 2 days in a row.
Going to vote conversion. He is lurking hardcore and show no sign of wantong to help town forward. If its lurkers you're worried about why do you pick conversion? What about kevconsim, Milkyst, or metalface, to name a few people I would consider lurkers. I'm not sure it's a good idea to start lynching lurkers because it probably won't tell us much whatever role they turn out to be.
On April 18 2011 10:46 AirbladeOrange wrote: I will just say one more thing about my earlier post. I have a very strong reason to believe jaminz is not red and I'm sticking to it. I'm not as sure that conversion is red as much as I believe jaminz to be town. Conversion just seems the scummiest person to me at this point. I would also be okay with a kev lynch.
Key point I want everyone to read: jaminz is not red.
Only good point you've made so far.
I think the issue that makes me think conversion is the summiest looking player we have is the fact that he is advocating the lynch of M0nsterchef, who I think we should believe to be blue. He already voted for M0nsterChef as well. Mafia want blues dead and it would be better to kill blues with a lynch so they can focus on killing other players with their KP.
I'm placing my vote on conversion.
Which I agree on, coupled with people (chaoser) actually making a case and showing his posts, makes me believe he is scum.
Play better Airblade.
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btw, if you've found anything of importance I think you should spill it out because a blind man can tell how o s
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My posts about conversion are much better understood within the context of when they were posted.
He was making sketchy posts at the time (which I still believe to be sketchy), jaminz did a good job of bringing some of his posts together for easier examination, and TranceStorm brought up a point I agreed with. I was not throwing shit around just to see if it would stick.
Also, you hurt my feelings when you tell me to play better.
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I'm not saying you are throwing shit together. I'm saying you are trying to hard to appear town. (Which I know why)
On April 21 2011 08:02 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why was I the only one who actually voted for conversion earlier?
Why does it matter, when the matter of fact is that people are getting on to conversion? Is that not a good thing?
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On April 21 2011 09:53 AirbladeOrange wrote:My posts about conversion are much better understood within the context of when they were posted. He was making sketchy posts at the time (which I still believe to be sketchy), jaminz did a good job of bringing some of his posts together for easier examination, and TranceStorm brought up a point I agreed with. I was not throwing shit around just to see if it would stick. Also, you hurt my feelings when you tell me to play better. 
BTW, AO, if you're going to claim something, should claim tonight and tell us why you think jaminz isn't mafia so mafia needs to worry about hitting multiple targets that will be protected/watched/tracked/etc.
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kitaman27
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On April 21 2011 10:07 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2011 09:53 AirbladeOrange wrote:My posts about conversion are much better understood within the context of when they were posted. He was making sketchy posts at the time (which I still believe to be sketchy), jaminz did a good job of bringing some of his posts together for easier examination, and TranceStorm brought up a point I agreed with. I was not throwing shit around just to see if it would stick. Also, you hurt my feelings when you tell me to play better.  BTW, AO, if you're going to claim something, should claim tonight and tell us why you think jaminz isn't mafia so mafia needs to worry about hitting multiple targets that will be protected/watched/tracked/etc.
Actually, I think it would better the other way around.
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kitaman27
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Well I'm just thinking it would be better to keep the mafia guessing who is blue and who is town.
As for tonight, I'll either watch bum or a bodyguard, bum should probably protect me or someone who is pro-town, and any other watchers or medics should visit me/bum. That way if mafia wants to role block or kill one of us, they're going to have to pay with one of their three remaining members. If they don't want to take the risk, then they won't have a clear idea who else to hit.
On April 15 2011 13:02 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 12:43 Serejai wrote:Guys... I know I have been trolling most of the game, and I feel with the recent drama I owe my Opinion on what is currently happening in the game. Because this is my first time playing I'm sure I Don't really know what's going on, but here's my take on things. First off, it seems like most people are just being sheep and following the advice of others without Any thoughts of their own. I know that's what I'm doing because I don't feel I understand enough to Think for my own just yet. Because of this, you veteran players need to realize that what you post Has a very large effect on players like myself. It feels like some players have personal issues with Each other and that's making it extremely hard for me to learn the gameplay. Stop the hateful Responses and personal attacks and stick to analyses and stuff please. Secondly, it feels like most of you are doing things with no real reason. A lot of you seem so overly Eager to tunnel in on someone even without solid proof, and so I'm finding myself changing votes to React to the newest "omg he's mafia, lynch him" target quite often. Like, is there a method to Everyone's madness? I'm having trouble seeing anything other than people calling out each other Just for the hell of it. For example, I personally feel that Coag and GM are scum and I don't have an Analysis of my own for them, so I don't post one. Yet other players that don't have their own are Insistent on posting random garbage just to bandwagon. It makes it hard for me to understand things.  This is still trolling and useless. What's with all the random capital letters spelling your name? You're sheeping because you're scum with GMarshal.
Not really relevant, but did anyone notice DropBear did not reveal the full hidden message? I wonder if that was on purpose :p
I would suggest everyone take a look through DropBear's posts to see if anything stands out.
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I'm pretty sure the entire mafia team pretty much bussed the shit out of serejai. Look over the mafia lynched and how many of them focused squarely on serejai, it's ridiculous,
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On April 21 2011 10:36 kitaman27 wrote:Well I'm just thinking it would be better to keep the mafia guessing who is blue and who is town. As for tonight, I'll either watch bum or a bodyguard, bum should probably protect me or someone who is pro-town, and any other watchers or medics should visit me/bum. That way if mafia wants to role block or kill one of us, they're going to have to pay with one of their three remaining members. If they don't want to take the risk, then they won't have a clear idea who else to hit. Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 13:02 DropBear wrote:On April 15 2011 12:43 Serejai wrote:Guys... I know I have been trolling most of the game, and I feel with the recent drama I owe my Opinion on what is currently happening in the game. Because this is my first time playing I'm sure I Don't really know what's going on, but here's my take on things. First off, it seems like most people are just being sheep and following the advice of others without Any thoughts of their own. I know that's what I'm doing because I don't feel I understand enough to Think for my own just yet. Because of this, you veteran players need to realize that what you post Has a very large effect on players like myself. It feels like some players have personal issues with Each other and that's making it extremely hard for me to learn the gameplay. Stop the hateful Responses and personal attacks and stick to analyses and stuff please. Secondly, it feels like most of you are doing things with no real reason. A lot of you seem so overly Eager to tunnel in on someone even without solid proof, and so I'm finding myself changing votes to React to the newest "omg he's mafia, lynch him" target quite often. Like, is there a method to Everyone's madness? I'm having trouble seeing anything other than people calling out each other Just for the hell of it. For example, I personally feel that Coag and GM are scum and I don't have an Analysis of my own for them, so I don't post one. Yet other players that don't have their own are Insistent on posting random garbage just to bandwagon. It makes it hard for me to understand things.  This is still trolling and useless. What's with all the random capital letters spelling your name? You're sheeping because you're scum with GMarshal. Not really relevant, but did anyone notice DropBear did not reveal the full hidden message? I wonder if that was on purpose :p I would suggest everyone take a look through DropBear's posts to see if anything stands out. did Serejai try to buss himself?
GODFATHER SEREJAI
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