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On March 20 2011 07:50 Tackster wrote: /in btw this is my roomate so be nice to him  | ||
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If he is not blue, then: -He's taking a huuuuge risk -Why hasn't a blue cc'd Kav's argument is pretty meh also. Why not elect a confirmed town mayor, and he can listen to all the vet's scumhunting. Its not like bumatlarge is bad either,,, If we elect a scum veteran player as mayor, then it will be 200x harder for us to lynch him. He will be able to wriggle out of most cases against him. A confirmed town that can take advice from all the vets in the game is better than an unconfirmed vet. | ||
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On March 24 2011 19:12 Jackal58 wrote: What? Semi-claim blue? You guys have to ask yourselves a question. Would any other blues come forward to confirm bum? No they wouldn't. Not until much later in the game. But a bunch of bullet proof black aligned players would very much try to make a blue claim. Their best bet to win is getting one as mayor. They can only lose if we lynch them. I'm not buying bum's story. I'm not buying it one bit. I'm also loooking really hard at those of you that are saying he's blue and will get your vote for mayor. Keep your eyes on them guys. Our black team may have just reared its ugly head. So if bum is black, WHY HASN'T A BLUE CCD? | ||
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Making his voters feel uneasy about voting for him is scum tactics 101. FOS Jackal | ||
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On March 24 2011 21:12 Jackal58 wrote: Please. Save it. Their are 4 blues listed in the OP. One of them "accidentally" lets it slip? So another comes out to confirm him? And now scum has half of the blues on the table? C'mon. It's a bs claim. It's damn near foolproof. No blue with a half a brain is going to confirm him. Don't you get it? A blue doesn't need to claim to confirm him unless a mafia ccs. Mafia cc = 2 blues exposed for a mafia lynch day one. In that case, one of the blues will be mayor and as such unkillable, and we can simply put a medic on the second one. GG If bum IS mafia, then a blue should absolutely 100% cc right now. Until that happens, anyone giving a bullshit reason for not voting bum as mayor should be at the top of the lynch list. | ||
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On March 24 2011 22:01 Jackal58 wrote: If another blue wants to confirm his alignment I'm all ears. - NO! Another blue should only claim if there is a counterclaim. Trying to bait one to come out is FUCKING SCUMMY TO THE EXTREME If another blue wants to burst his bubble I'm all ears. Yes, thats the point. Unless this happens assume bum clear Either way it's lose/lose for town. We lose bum if he's blue. He'll be mayor, how do we lose him??????? We lose another blue if he's not. Or we lose 2 if another blue confirms him. Counterclaim gets elected mayor, supporter is mediced, bum the scum is lynched. Free mafia for day 1 lynch and we have confirmed town as mayor. How is that good for town???? It's not. How is that good for black???? You already answered that. | ||
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If he's not: There will be a cc Whats not to get? | ||
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On March 24 2011 23:45 Kavdragon wrote: iGrok might be excusable because of he's newish, but I'm inclined to disbelieve that you would fail so hard on your logic Decon... Scum hunters cannot tell the mayor what to push if they are dead. Besides, it's not like the mayor has some magical ability to bend the town to his will. When I was mayor in XXXVI, I was able to control the lynches because I was one of the only active scum hunters, Not because I was mayor. Mayor was only the shield I used so that I COULD hunt scum without dieing. This is about protecting the people that are going to be hit by the mafia early and often. Read the pre-game, we already had the discussion about who the mafia would hit: If they don't hit the vets/analysts they will be caught. If bum cannot analyse then the mafia would LOVE to see him as mayor, because it's protecting someone who they wouldn't have hit anyways. I want to stay active, and bring the pain to the red/black teams. I can't do this if I am dead. Vote for Kav. If this doesn't make sense, please let me know and I'll try to explain it more simply. So you claim that its better to have a unconfirmed good scumhunter as mayor as opposed to a confirmed good scumhunter with an entire confirmed circle of scumhunters behind him. While we don't know if that team is good or not, surely there is no contest here? | ||
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On March 25 2011 03:40 Kavdragon wrote: No, my argument was that Bum would/will not be a good scum hunter. I am/would be. If he's a good scum hunter, then he is the best choice for town. At this point, I don't think the town wants to take a risk on electing anti-town, and I don't have the time to prove that i'm anti-town. I submit my campaign, but I hope that people with protection abilities will seriously consider me for protection. (Hopefully my play will make me a good/obvious choice by the end of the day, so don't take my word for it.) Best of luck Bum! You have time to scumhunt and be awesome but no time to make an argument to show you are town? | ||
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On March 25 2011 06:49 orgolove wrote: There's still nothing that proves that bum is actually a blue as he claims to be. He could just as easily have a roleswitching/godfather role that is practically impossible to prove in a game such as this that has no reveal on death. I don't understand why you guys are blindly trusting his claim. We've been burned by the reds before... And I love how bum immediately puts me under his suspicion list because I'm not blindly sheeping like the rest of the town. Anyway. If push comes to shove, I'd rather support Kavdragon than you. Wait where did you get this from? I don't see it anywhere in the OP. | ||
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On March 25 2011 06:56 LSB wrote: There will be reveal on death... Yeah, thank god for that. If there was no reveal then bum's plan would be sunk | ||
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On March 25 2011 07:10 orgolove wrote: Damn, I'm confusing this with the other game that had no role reveal upon death with this game's dice roll bots upon modkill/ Bum, you're immediately resorting to accusing me just because I'm focusing on the more questionable aspects of your candidacy. I'd think it's logical to extensively question such an early roleclaim... Do blues know who each other are? Is this a mason group? You should probably read the OP a bit more carefully | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:35 Jackal58 wrote: Everybody is green til they flip. Your paranoia of black leads me to believe you are red. That would leave darm as black. LSB making you scum. That's deliciously hilarious. I agree, pretty good chance LSB is red from how he is reacting. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:39 annul wrote: holy fucking shit will ANYONE, a single person, in the entire game, challenge my MATHEMATICAL analysis of the item game and why it is beneficial to give mayorship to an item game player? i dont care if you think i am a scum, because my MATH is sound. if im scum, nominate someone else. an item game player needs to be mayor. Item game: -Town mayor good -Mafia mayor bad -3rd P mayor bad 33% chance of good Actual game: -Town mayor good -Blue mayor good -Mafia mayor bad -3rd P mayor bad 50% chance of good Non-item game is better See how pointless arguing maths is? You can't just reduce a game to stats, you have to take meta into account. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:44 annul wrote: what? are you just trolling or do you seriously think that its 50% chance for a "good" outcome in the actual game? No, that wasn't a serious analysis. I was merely pointing out that I too can pull figures from my ass and say the maths are sound if they add up. By electing a town mayor from the item game you do increase the chance of town winning it. That is obvious, but your other arguments are terrible. -Electing mafia as mayor essentially is an autoloss in that case -Electing a black is bad too. People are less inclined to lynch a mayor unless there is a lot more evidence against them, so it will increase his survivability. Finally, and this is the big bit, we give up having a 100% clear mayor with a circle behind him. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:56 annul wrote: argue directly against my math, then. don't try to skirt off with some flawed argument by analogy. tell me exactly how my math is wrong, not that it is possible to come up with wrong math. its quite possible. my math, however, is not wrong. "electing a red mayor in item game is an auto loss." it would be very bad, yes, but not an auto-loss. but that is a 1/6 chance to happen. giving mayor to the black would be bad but only insofar as its bad for green to not have it. black gains nothing, relative to item game powers, with mayorship. Did you not read my post? Blacks DO gain with mayorship, as it makes them a bit more lynch proof simply because people are much less inclined to lynch the mayor. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:46 annul wrote: but before this happens, EVERY SINGLE PLAYER in this game should take a good look at who is actively opposing me. if/when i flip green, you have at least a handful of scum on your hands. i say this not to attempt to persuade people i am green or even that anyone in particular is scum. just remember who is fighting this tooth and nail. Regardless of your alignment, that sort of statement is pure bullshit. Why on earth would scum or 3rd party want bum as mayor? They are the ones who will be supporting you, not the other way around. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:46 annul wrote: [b]ONE BLUE IS WORTH MORE TO THE TOWN THAN SACRIFICING HIMSELF TO GET RID OF ONE SCUM./b] Another retarded argument. If bum is lying and a blue claims, how is that sacrificing himself? He will have someone to back him up, and won't get lynched. He will be elected mayor and his partner will have a medic protecting him. We get to lynch a scum day one and a blue mayor. If bum is telling the truth we have a blue mayor. | ||
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16 townies 4 3rd party 2 mafia Everyone has a PR of some sorts. I would be very happy as town in that setup. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:56 annul wrote: several on town: bum claimed blue without any CC. Pretty obvious that he's the best mayor candidate unless someone ccs or something major happens. If he is scum it would be pretty dumb of blues to not cc at this point. me: LOLOLOL ITEMZ several on town: OMFG YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT Fixed for you | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I don't think you've played here before, but on TL mafia, roles like hatter, vig, don't count as "KP". KP here is nightly kills a team or player, usually scum/sk, get to use nightly. Killing abilities are not included in this KP number. In the op is says: Of course, the police can’t actually kill people, but they have their own way of helping. I assume that is what he is referencing. | ||
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On March 25 2011 10:01 annul wrote: ho ly fuck ing shit. do you just simply refuse to recognize the potential for blues to be worth more than 1 scum death? notice how not a SINGLE PLAYER has argued against that point, despite bringing it up repeatedly. please, decon. counter that point directly. please. dont straw man, dont ad hominem. tell me, is it not possible that a blue's life is worth more than that of ONE scum? You still don't get it. In order for a single blue to die, mafia have to expose 4 of their team. Even in that case, theres a 50/50 chance of us lynching one of the 4 mafia claimants first. If we do lynch a blue first, then we now have 4 confirmed mafia and 3 blues that we can attempt to keep alive with medics. There is no way on earth I can see mafia being so bad that they would try to pull this shit. | ||
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On March 25 2011 10:06 annul wrote: no, mafia do not need to expose 4 of their team for a single blue to die. Yes they do. Case where bum is mafia: -Blue ccs with backup from friend. Now either -Bum gets lynched and blue is elected mayor -One of bum's partners claims blue also. In this case another real blue claims. Now either -Bum + partner get lynched, elect blue as mayor and medic on the other one -Mafia add another claimant. Repeat until 4 blues + 4 mafia have claimed. It is the same thing if bum is town, just the other way around. | ||
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On March 25 2011 10:16 annul wrote: FYI i STILL think your mini town circle plan was retarded and anti-town in 37. I now declare anything annul has said in this thread invalid. | ||
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On March 25 2011 10:41 Coagulation wrote: kenpachi is useless everygame Kevconsim generally isnt an allstar contributor either Amber and beneather should know better BrownBear hasn't been doing much either, but he's been like that in the last 2? games I've played with him as well. | ||
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On March 25 2011 10:46 GMarshal wrote: While I'm asking stupid questions, @coag assume night started right now and you had a medic protect, who would you use it on and why? @Decon, you suddenly have the power to form a town circle with three other players, who would you pick and for what reason? @Inactives, what are your exuses for not posting? Are you ready for me to lynch you for the greater glory of the town? -Tack. I know him well, and I'm like 90% sure he's town. -Kav. He's thinks he's better than he is, but he still is good. -Meapak or bum probably. | ||
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On March 25 2011 11:20 tnkted wrote: lets give blues some more time to talk about whether to CC or not. Lets vote at the last possible minute to give oruselves as much time as we can. Waiting until the last minute to vote is a recipe for disaster in most cases. You can always unvote if necessary. | ||
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On March 25 2011 11:23 GMarshal wrote: I for one will also post my votes here, I thought that was awesome in XXXVII and I urge you all to do the same In the meantime, why dont we keep asking questions? chaoser if you had a DT check who would you check right now? deconduo what is your favorite unit in starcraft, (or starcraft 2)? Defiler Swarm, Plague, infinite energy. What more could you ask for. | ||
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On March 26 2011 07:07 Kenpachi wrote: does anyone have thoughts on my first analysis in like 5 mafia games? :S It was pretty good, I found myself agreeing to a lot of the points. | ||
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iGrok - Kenpachi's analysis is actually pretty good Amber, Brownbear - hardcore lurking, as veterans they should be much more vocal orgolove - his parroting of annul doesn't paint a good picture of him, but I don't think its enough to go on yet. At this point, I don't think annul is mafia. At the very least, we have better targets available. Similarly, lemonwalrus has been playing like a standard newbie as was said above. He may or may not be mafia, but he's actually posting so no need to lynch him yet. | ||
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Just that one or two of the 'spam' posts were justified imo. They might not have contributed but it was better for them to be posted than not. -Helping Lanaia -Explaining vote in the IRC poll | ||
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On March 26 2011 07:32 tnkted wrote: Sounds good LW, I just want to know that bum has a list handy before I post anything about the plan. Tack is asleep and probably won't be up for ~6-8 hours. If he's not awake after that I can get some cold water to help though >:D | ||
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On March 26 2011 09:39 Beneather wrote: Wait then we would now who to lynch because the winner of the item game would be aligned with either scum town or 3rd Party and we can just lynch the winner of town doesn't get the items right? You need to start posting more. You only have 3 posts up until now. | ||
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The two scum in the item game will try and push whoever they feel they can get away with pushing. They will agree with X being scum no matter what. Jackal just tunnels whoever he feels like, Lemon is new, and Annul has said he has no read on Tack. Pretty strong case there. | ||
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On March 26 2011 23:34 orgolove wrote: Sorry guys - still in the middle of a busy weekend here. I just want to point out how there's no one else that's coming up to defend Jackal. I don't know if that's because no one wants to be associated with him when he flips, or if he's really a townie and we're doing it wrong... You do realise this post makes no sense? | ||
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On March 26 2011 14:34 Tackster wrote: Lol my PM asked for people to actually converse with me. You're either seeing scum where you want to or trying to create problems for town. Thanks for outing that btw I think it shows how reasonable I am! As a townie I am sitting tight till i get more information... And you should too Tack got the townie PM, Jackal didn't. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:20 Jackal58 wrote: I knew when I put up my plan I would be target #1. I did it anyways. Because it is in towns best interest. Coag is town. LW is town. I am town. I possess towns night KP. I have outlined the 3 separate scenarios that can occur off of a Tackster lynch. I stand by my plan. I stand by my lynch decision. My target is Tackster. Ok if bum picks Tack, I'm lynching you tomorrow when Tack flips town. Someone who blindly tunnels until he gets what he wants is no good, regardless of alignment. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:25 Jackal58 wrote: Doesn't matter how he flips. I'm shooting you tonight. Cool story bro. So you admit could be wrong about tack. After being totally 100% certain up to now. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:41 Jackal58 wrote: If you sheep could read you'd already have seen where 3 or 4 times including my original post regarding my plan I have always admitted I might be wrong. Ok then, you ARE wrong. Pick someone else. | ||
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Vote Jackal. Secondary vote for darmousseh. | ||
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On March 27 2011 06:30 Coagulation wrote: This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items. You skip by the question once again. You have not given an shred of any sort of evidence against him other than your opinion. You can't even find ONE scummy post. | ||
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On March 27 2011 06:36 Coagulation wrote: bullshit i have posted scummy PM's i got from him and analyzed them and showed people why i think they are scummy 2 times. go back and read the thread dont tell me i havnt found "ONE" scummy thing. Both PMs you posted were sent AFTER you decided he was scum. Neither PMs are scummy, you just gave shitty reasons. He doesn't deny being scum - LOL He doesn't give opinions on who thinks is scum - why should he being giving opinions in a PM if no one has asked for them. In a previous game with you (orgah IIRC), you EXPLICITLY SAID you don't give out opinions in PM unless you feel like it because its dangerous. | ||
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On March 27 2011 06:53 Jackal58 wrote: Nobody could say anything about you until I posted my plan. You were inactive. Now you're the towns darling. If I had put forth darm or annul you'd still be lurking. At what point was he inactive? He's been posting since the game started. He has 100 posts, all of them in this thread. You are making shit up once again. | ||
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On March 27 2011 07:17 tnkted wrote: After lemon picked up on the BC the two 1/2 clues I laid had been pretty much revealed. Coag got a clue from the other mod, and insanious picked up on it. After lemon the other three players are a toss up, because they could easily have figured out what the clues were and grabbed one of the other posts where I used them. So Tack Jack and Darm are all unconfirmed breadcrumbwise. Don't forget that Jackal got one totally wrong as well. He then claimed it was because he was looking for one relating to his role PM, but HOW COULD YOU BREADCRUMB A ROLE PM! | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:20 ilovejonn wrote: Wtf are you talking about, lynching Darm won't do us shit and the Jackal vs Tack debate will go on for another Day. Tack/Jackal has to go today. And if they are both town how will it help? | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:39 annul wrote: also, i would advise you read like everybody's posts now in the last several hours, since every like single person posting has said they believe my township now. ;\ Of the people in the IG, I rate Tack as most town, you second. | ||
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This whole confirming each other thing, does it take into account: -Bus Drivers -Framers -Covering -Godfather -A bunch of other shit that could be thrown at you considering this is insane mafia | ||
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 Too late for me, gnight guys. | ||
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If you want town to win the item game over reds (which I assume you do) kill Lemon tonight. | ||
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Annul is town, Tack is town. Unless one of Jackal/Coag is pulling some insane stunt they are both town. Lemon hasn't done anything all game, just has a bunch of filler posts. Easy process of elimination. I'd be 90% sure of it being lemon, if not then its 50/50 on jackal/coag. | ||
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On March 28 2011 00:31 tnkted wrote: No... black doesn't want anyone to win the item game for as long as possible. You advising them on who to kill is extremely suspicious. And lemon feels very green to me. Can you show me where hes posting filler? I'm convinced either jack or tack is the mafia. -Until you posted this, there was a chance they would listen to me. Good job for fucking that up. -This is the only post of his I can find where he gives any opinions on anyone. Even then he is EXTREMELY wishy-washy about it. Stuff like "reasonably certain he's town' 'I've got a scum read on him, but ... I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he flips town' The only people he really backs up are Jackal and Coag who both think the sun shines out of his ass. He ofc pushes Tack because Jackal and Coag told him to. | ||
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On March 28 2011 01:44 Jackal58 wrote: Because you're scum. You claim to be new. You're not new. You're a smurf. Who are you Tack? Ver again??? LSB made if fairly clear in the OP he wanted some smurfs. He wanted smurfs that told him who they were. You're one of them. You are most assuredly no noob. It's also interesting you so easily dismiss your item. A mood ring. Used to check alignments Funny how the black team got a similar item. Who needs DT's if there is only one scum faction? Town. Who needs DTs if there are 2 scum factions? Everybody. Interesting how darm was the CEO of the black faction. Interesting he had a DT item. You're the GF aren't you Tack? You are certainly no noob. You most assuredly didn't get confused because you don't know anybody's names. Who are you Tack? Foolishness? Ver? Qatol? Because you aren't a noob.. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL You just made me laugh harder than I have in so long. | ||
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In fact, at the start of the game I said he was my roommate and that this was his first game. This just proves that you have zero scumhunting skills and you should be ignored for the rest of the game. | ||
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On March 28 2011 04:06 Rean wrote: :DDD My liquibet is being raped, but i'm loling my ass off. Love it when IdrA gets a taste of his own medicine :D That smiley, so awesome. | ||
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On March 28 2011 04:06 Rean wrote: :DDD My liquibet is being raped, but i'm loling my ass off. Love it when IdrA gets a taste of his own medicine :D + Show Spoiler + Not the only one | ||
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On March 28 2011 04:18 bumatlarge wrote: 5. deconduo - tricky, but he seems to be shadowing insanious? Id think he would be a bit more vocal as town, but he is capable of being vocal as scum Hey, I defended Tack first. Insanious copied me not the other way around. | ||
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On March 28 2011 06:21 iGrok wrote: 10. Eiii - A couple really good posts, not much more than that. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. 30. Eiii - I think I remember one post, and he put alot of thought into it? I DONT REMEMBER EXACTLY. YOU ANALYZE IT. ? | ||
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Lemon knows coag is shooting tack Lemon knows the moment tack flips green he's screwed as Jackal + Coag have their verification thing going. Annul's hissy fit confirmed him as town as well. Tells scumteam to bus the shot on tack to annul. Tack gets lynched today, Jackal and Coag get killed by reds, Lemon laughs at failtown. Its possible that one of Jackal/Coag are scum, but I feel this is the most probable situation. | ||
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On March 28 2011 20:45 Coagulation wrote: Dont fall for this shit if your town look at whats fucking happening. Scum is jumping all over the chance to get the lynch of tackster Look at deconduo he comes in thread after everything that happens and completely ignores everything that IG townies are telling people about the bus and the gun not being stolen and just straight up jumps all over how town sucks and lemon is scum. THAT ISNT TOWN PLAY. I dont see how you guys are fucking acting all surprised a scum used his role on Lemon last night The IG players have been the SOLE attention of the entire game OF COURSE they are going to focus abilitys on the IG PLAYERS. USE YOUR HEADS DAMNIT. Do you really think a first time mafia player is going to be able to completely 100% deceive 3 mafia veterans? Are you fucking kidding? Feel free to shoot me tonight, I'll just be ressed as a zombie anyway so I don't mind. | ||
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On March 28 2011 19:06 ilovejonn wrote: By the time of my last post, two people have voted Lemon in the voting thread btw. deconduo has said something, iGrok just voted without an explanation. I don't see how it makes you so great? You have exactly 3 posts regarding LW and why you think he is scum. They aren't exactly good arguments either. All 3 posts come after almost a series of "Jackal is 100% scum". You guys can check. And then you go back to what I assume is your original suspect. If he is wishy-washy, so are you. I never said Jackal was 100% scum, EVER. I said that Jackal was the best lynch in my opinion because all he does is tunnel blindly and causes shitfests. He's like a dog with a bone, he won't let go until someone is dead. Look at what happened with Gryff in XXXVII, and in pretty much every other game he's played. He does not let go. That play is detrimental to town, and will probably let mafia win the IG this game. | ||
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On March 28 2011 21:23 Ace wrote: Does anyone know whats going on? Exactly one of Jackal/Coag/Tack/Lemon is scum. Jackal + Coag claim to have some secret method whereby they have confirmed each other. They haven't said how. They also claim that Lemon is clear and Tack is the mafia. They have not given any evidence apart from their word. Coag + someone else shot Tack last night but the shots were bussed to annul. Someone in bum's circle DT checked Lemon as blue, but there are no blues in the item game so either the check was messed with or Lemon is Godfather. | ||
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On March 28 2011 21:33 Jackal58 wrote: And yes So what you are saying is that only your opinion matters in a game. And you don't see how that's a bad way to play? You don't listen to anyone, just yourself. You pick someone, tunnel. If they are mafia good, if not, pick someone else. You don't change your mind until they flip. You don't listen to logic. You don't look at what anyone else is doing. You tunnel blindly. Sure you might get it right once or twice, but hey over time thats bound to happen. | ||
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On March 28 2011 21:46 Ace wrote: Jackal you should tunnel deconduo next One of the funnier things he's done this game is claim that my roomate, Tack, is Ver's smurf. Considering that this is his first game of forum mafia it was quite a compliment | ||
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On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote: Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun. Tackster admits to his theft. If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me? LOLOL You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY? What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE! | ||
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On March 28 2011 22:42 Jackal58 wrote: If he were town he wouldn't have been bussed. He would have stolen my band aid and coag would have shot him and this whole damn thing would have been over with. But it's actually a good thing to watch and see who continues to defend him. Why not? Pretend Tack is town and Lemon is the mafia. WHAT WOULD MAFIA DO? Don't avoid this question in any way. Just give me your honest opinion on what mafia would do. | ||
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On March 28 2011 23:25 tnkted wrote: I'm still on page 14 but theres an important point that nobody has brought up yet: Scum thought that annul was using his bomb. Thats why the bussed coag to annul, not because they wanted annul gone or anything, but because they wanted coag to die. If the driver works the normal way it was tack and annul that were bussed. Bussing switches the action's targets, not the people performing the action. | ||
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Situation 1: Lemon Tack Coag Jackal Situation 2: Lemon Coag Jackal Annul You are saying that Lemon would prefer to be in situation 2? You think he would find it easier to lynch you if it was situation 2 over lynching Tack in situation 1? | ||
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On March 28 2011 23:28 Insanious wrote: yes, but it would change coag from shooting tack to shooting annul. As such, the bomb would kill coag. Switching the players doesnt matter, what matters for annul's item was switching the targets. Yes, that was my point. Driver would die if he visited annul. | ||
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On March 28 2011 23:34 Jackal58 wrote: Yes. Half of you guys are still convinced I'm scum anyways. Is that why you have 15 people voting to lynch you? Get off your high horse and use your brain. You don't listen. You don't think. You don't reason. You don't use logic. Why would Tack bus to annul? Annul was the most likely to support him out of all four. It makes perfect sense if any of Jackal/LW/Coag are mafia to bus to annul. The only person it doesn't make sense for is if Tack is mafia. | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:04 tnkted wrote: Who do we see supporting jackal on this? Who is supporting jackal even after Bum accused lemon? Rean and Decon. Scum. Coag. Played for fool. You know, this would have been a lot more emphatic if it wasn't for the fact that you obviously have been reading the thread wrong. Myself and Rean are the ones who are saying Jackal is wrong, not the ones supporting him. | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:33 Jackal58 wrote: Black has 1 kp plus roles. Black shot GM and did an alignment check on annul. They got a red check back on a dead guy. Twinkles devises bs plan to end IG in a tie. No items to anybody. I think he's telling the truth about bussing bum + LW. It makes sense. Is it worth it for black to sacrifice 1/3 of their team to kill the item game? | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:35 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah, no. I do believe that you're the bus driver and have switched bum and lemon, otherwise the lemon check wouldn't have made sense in a LOT of scenarios. Now, we still need to figure out why Tack didn't die. Two bus drivers might be a bit much indeed. The only thing is, mafia thought Jackal would hit, not Coag, so whatever happened, couldn't have been a spell cast on Coag. Jackal and Lemon both knew it was Coag shooting. | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:39 tnkted wrote: Actually, I think I need to be killed... if mafia can mind control they could just use me to shift targets around every night. Didn't think that one through when I posted it. That would explain LSB saying 'DO NOT ROLE CLAIM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES' | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:20 chaoser wrote: 1) Why did Tackster get bussed to annul? Don't know, something changed Coag's target from Tack to annul though 2) Why was annul shot twice if Tackster was bus? Don't know yet 3) Why does annul have the mood ring and why didn't Tackster say he got it stolen? Annul stole it and LSB didn't take that into account and finally 4) Why did LW show up as blue from a check? Tntked claims he bussed Lemon and Bum and so when DTs checked lemon, it came up blue I have a question for tnkt, why did you bus Lemon and Bum? Tnkted said that he bussed them because he thought mafia would try to kill lemon. | ||
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If he is telling the truth, Tack is pretty much confirmed to be town. He is the only one in the item game that didn't know Coag was the one that actually had the gun. | ||
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'Someone wasn't as sucess full at killing people' Why split successful into two words? Feels like a hint/clue. | ||
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Annul: You are just a townie minding your own business. Twiddle your thumbs, try to seem clean or something. GMarshal: You are part of the town Kingdom. The ruler of the kingdom, Redacted has contacted you, you are his bodyguard. You may PM the other subjects of the Town Kingdom, Redacted Mine: You are a normal townie, sit tight, you'll get your role in 24 hours Darm: You are the third party. You are backed by a powerful corporation seeking control from the mafia. You win by outnumbering everyone else in the game. As Third party you are bulletproof. Your comrades in black are REDACTED | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:45 Rean wrote: Your pm was for the waiting, Annul's PM was because he didn't get any powers at all due to being in the item game. Annul got your pm as well initially, and you got another PM describing your powers after the one you linked. GMarshal's pm was the power-describing one aswell, same as Darmousseh. I got one alignment PM, which is the one I posted. My role PM was completely separate. Its possible that IG players got an extra alignment PM so I may be mistaken. | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:45 chaoser wrote: Operative statement being: This would mean that coag was mind controlled. We don't know if that's true or not. If it is true then yeah, Tack is probably town. Yes, but I can't think of any other explanation for it. Coag claimed to have shot Tack and in the day post it clearly suggests that he was fucked with. With the driver its the targets that get swapped, and the driver is mentioned later on in the day post too. | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:55 Lanaia wrote: How does Tackster not knowing Coag had a gun mean he's confirmed town? I'm still a little confused by that bit. The person who redirected Coag must have known Coag was the one with the gun. If Tack was the mafia he would have used it on Jackal instead, | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:57 tnkted wrote: OK the alignment PMs worked like this (as far as I can tell): LSB pmed the "twiddle your thumbs, try to seem clean or something' alignment pm while kita pmed the 'sit tight' one. When I set up my breadcrumbing in my first few posts I was using my alignment PM, the twiddle your thumbs one. Coag, who had recieved kita's pm instead, breadcrumbed to me and I didn't notice since I only had knowledge of lsb's pm. So the sit tight phrase was not part of my plan at all. Therefore, the results of the PM breadcrumbs were: Lemon & annul, who recieved their PMs from LSB, immediately picked up my clues. Coag laid a breadcrumb of his own ('sit tight, i'll go over your posts') which i missed but insanious picked up on immediately, confirming them both Jackal refused to play Tack also dropped a 'sit tight' breadcrumb. However, tack dropped his sit tight breadcrumb after coag and insanious had already confirmed that was a clue word, so he could have just been clever. Tack isn't clear. Jackal isn't clear because he didn't play the game. Tack had my PM pretty much spot on, including the green highlighting of the word townie. Same for Jackal. | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:01 tnkted wrote: As I recall, Tack posted a breadcrumb, not the actual PM... could you find that for me? I'd look myself but im in class and shouldn't be typing. :X This one: On March 26 2011 14:34 Tackster wrote: As a townie I am sitting tight till i get more information... | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:17 Insanious wrote: Why, if you bus a shot from lemon -> bum. Then bum's body guard would take the shot and die... that's how it works. In general, thats not how bodyguards work. If the mayor gets shot when the bodyguards are alive, nothing happens. The bodyguard doesn't jump in and die instead. It might be different in this game but I doubt it. Especially as kita told tnkted it wasn't like that. | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:24 Rean wrote: Care explaining what i misread rather then just saying i failed? Coag stood over the dead body of annul and wondered what happened. Clearly not indicative of freely choosing to shoot him. | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:30 Lanaia wrote: I'll be back in a few hours. I'm off to shower and lend my computer to my boyfriend 'cause his kind of fell apart. What I think we know so far: There is at least one protown mason-style group that isn't blue. (GMarshal's group) GMarshal himself was targetted for a kill (this is likely) and it wasn't him as a bodyguard stepping in to save bum. We still have a ton of lurkers. The item game is confusing the hell out of me. The mood ring is out of play as is the potato, right? Do we think they'll be coming back in after there's a win? Potato is gone. Mood ring will go to the winners of the item game along with the other ones. | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:32 chaoser wrote: Cause Kav is a good mafia player? Why would they shoot both annul, make coag shoot annul, and also try to shoot LW? Why do you think LW got shot? Even if Bum hadn't been bussed LW would have lived a shot. Why are people claiming LW was a target for a shot? | ||
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On March 29 2011 04:59 Coagulation wrote: Im just sick of this shit Between bum telling me to shut the fuck up and calling me a liar This noname reane or w/e fucking calling me a liar and a idiot deconduo and insanious shitting all over me and calling me a liar ROL calling me a liar at every fucking opportunity fuck you guys you deserve to lose. So you expect everyone to listen to you, to believe you 100% when you don't have the respect to do the same? Calm down, quit the cursing and think before you post. Raging will lose you the game, regardless of your alignment. If you want people to listen to you put forth a logical reasoned argument with evidence to back it up. For the record, I never called you a liar I simply said you were wrong. | ||
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On March 29 2011 07:00 Coagulation wrote: im not quitting the game. im just not gonna argue about whos mafia in the item game anymore. You guys know who i have told you is mafia. do whatever the fuck you guys want. Theres a very strong case for the mafia to be either Lemon or Jackal. I think its Lemon. Would you at least not be as blind/stubborn as Jackal and think about it? The facts are there. I don't know why the two of you are so narrow minded but it really isn't helping the slightest. You have no case against Tack whatsoever and you refuse to admit it. When Tack flips town it will be too late, and chances are you'll have cost us the entire game. | ||
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2. Lemon is Maf 3. Kav is Black I've explained 1+2 to the best of my ability, but unfortunately TL townies just sheep whoever shouts loudest. Once again there is NO CASE against Tack that doesn't apply to any of the other item game players bar Coag. But hey, don't let that stop you. 3 is kinda cool. Kav is black and got hit last night. As he didn't know whether it was maf or town that hit him, he claimed vet to stop any suspicion towards him. He made a fatal error however, vets work a little differently in this game: Original Message From kitaman27: You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie I can't convince you not to lynch Tack today it seems, so we are doomed to lose the item game. At least when he flips town it clears me and you can lynch kav though. | ||
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On March 29 2011 19:42 CubEdIn wrote: @Decon: we're not going to lose the IG as long as we have Bus Driver. He'll just take Jackal away. EZ PZ. Unless the driver gets mindcontrolled? | ||
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On March 29 2011 19:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Well fuck this changes things, Kenpachi may still be a red that the Blacks found somehow and want lynched... in fact this may make the case stronger. But I withdraw my green call on Kav, wanna hear more from decon What do you want to hear? | ||
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1) Tack is maf 2) Coag is maf 3) Jackal is maf 4) Lemon is maf What people have done is taken situation 1 and just fit everything around that. Apart from me and Rean, no one has considered anything else. Another thing that bothers me is why double stack on annul? If bum is correct, and it was 100% mafia that hit annul and not black, then its a strong possibility that the redirect wasn't done by mafia. Here is another question. Can anyone show me something scummy that Tack has done? He stole from Jackal, but every other person in the game would have done the same. The shot from Coag was redirected from him to annul, but there is nothing to show that Tack did it, or even that mafia did it. The entire case is Coag's gut feeling that Lemon is town. This is what has happened: Jackal and Coag come up with a plan to verify each other. Jackal thinks Lemon is town. By a process of elimination they say that 2/3 of annul/tack/darmo are the scum. They try to get Tack lynched first because they think he is the easiest to lynch. No evidence, no scumminess, nothing. They throw in a few bullshit PMs that mean nothing just to try and give the appearance of having done something when that isn't the case. Bum lynches darmo and annul flips town. Keep in mind that Jackal and Coag STILL HAVEN'T VERIFIED EACH OTHER! Coag even admits that if Tack is town, Jackal is probably the mafia. In fact, the ONLY reason Tack is the prime suspect right now is because Lemon is Coag's friend and Tack isn't. That's it. If it was the other way around, Lemon would be the one up for a lynch. Finally, Jackal and Coag have just been raging, shouting, repeating the same things over and over and over. They have NO CASE. NOTHING. ZERO. Not one person voting for Tack has thought for themselves, they are just sheeping two tunnellers. I'm most disappointed in bum, its clear he hasn't even read the thread properly. | ||
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On March 29 2011 21:10 Jackal58 wrote: You guys need to sleep at night. Decon - You claiming to be vet? Yep, posted role PM earlier if you wanna read it. | ||
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On March 29 2011 20:57 CubEdIn wrote: So it's between Lemon and Tackster, and it doesn't make sense for mafia to double-shoot Annul if they KNEW Coag had the real gun. It would make much more sense to use the "stun gun" to RB annul's potato. Anything else makes a lot less sense than this theory. The theoretical stun gun blocks people who visit Coag not people that Coag visits. So using it to stop the potato makes no sense. | ||
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On March 29 2011 22:06 Jackal58 wrote: If you are med protected you don't get told you were hit. Medic is informed. I'm pretty sure kav claimed vet as well, though I might be mistaken on this. He certainly implied it if he didn't state it outright. | ||
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On March 29 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote: So if a black was hit why claim it? Safest thing to do. No reason for a townie to stay quiet if he was hit. If it was a mafia hit, mafia would know he's black. If it was a vig hit, vig would know he's red/black. | ||
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On March 30 2011 01:41 Tackster wrote: Ok sorry about the multiple posts - i thought people would prefer broken up posts rather than a long one - now I know for the future!! Why is no one commenting on the fact that the stun gun didnt claim to work the way people are saying?? Because people are lazy and would rather take the easy lynch than think for themselves. | ||
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On March 30 2011 02:29 Jackal58 wrote: I fully expect to die tonight no matter what color you flip. You stole my band aid you bastard. Your fault for saying you were going to shoot him. Next time don't tunnel townies and you might live <3 | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On March 28 2011 09:48 Lemonwalrus wrote: Items in the item game were RNGed, you can not make any inferences into alignment based on what item someone has. On March 28 2011 09:54 Lemonwalrus wrote: yes tack is scummy (imo) but i just don't want the town to be following theories that are based on a false understanding of the rules. (also please don't kill me) Day Post On March 28 2011 12:07 Lemonwalrus wrote: There there jackal, there there. Once town wins the IG you can play with the bandages, I promise. On March 28 2011 12:15 Lemonwalrus wrote: Ok, so unless some crazy shit happens in the next 47 hours, I think I will be sticking with this decision. ##Vote: Tackster On March 28 2011 14:24 Lemonwalrus wrote: You are looking at last night in a vacuum. He stole what he thought was a gun. That gun was still going to be a gun tomorrow night. He could shoot someone with it tomorrow night. On March 28 2011 15:19 Lemonwalrus wrote: Also since this thread loves to jump on people for not posting a lot just letting you all know I've got an exam in 16 hours and I plan to spend every minute between now and then either sleeping or studying. I might still post here and there though. Happy scum-hunting. On March 29 2011 11:39 Lemonwalrus wrote: My last post was 21 pages ago, in much, much simpler times. I've read the thread from then so far but not as thoroughly as I would have liked to so I'm gonna go back and try to piece things together. In the mean time, if anyone (specifically bumatlarge) has any questions for me to answer go ahead and post them and I'll try to help you out. On March 29 2011 12:05 Lemonwalrus wrote: My vest will block a bullet no matter what action I take, unless it is stolen. As long as I am wearing the vest, I can block 1 nightkill attempt. The vest is destroyed in the process, so it is only good to block one bullet. It did not block a bullet last night, if it had, it would have been destroyed, and LSB would have included that information in the day post just like he included the whereabouts of the potato. Also I assume that I would have gotten a pm telling me I had been shot but I'm not entirely sure about that. On March 29 2011 12:18 Lemonwalrus wrote: I asked this a long time ago but LSB never responded, since he is active again now I'm gonna ask it here. It has almost nothing to do with the current proceedings though. If the town wins the Item Game, do surviving Item Game players get to continue to PM each other? I checked all your posts and didn't find an answer. On March 29 2011 13:33 Lemonwalrus wrote: What is with all the cutsie nicknames for everyone? It just makes the thread harder to read. (also my plan has always been to protect unless town needed me to steal, which I don't think has been the case yet.) On March 29 2011 13:39 Lemonwalrus wrote: I'm not offended by it or anything it is just kinda confusing lol Its all fluff. He's been lurking and watching everyone sheep Tack. In fact only has a single non-fluff post all game. And everyone is just smiling. Also this line is the one I find interesting: My vest will block a bullet no matter what action I take, unless it is stolen. An item in the game that doesn't require you to 'use' This makes no sense. I would put money on it that he's lying about something. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:07 Jackal58 wrote: Hey twinkles. Do me a big favor. If we do mislynch keep your bus driving ass out of the IG game ok? You already fucked us out of an alignment check trying to play hero. Oooh, snarky. | ||
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1. RebirthOfLeGenD - Sheep 2. Jackal58 - Tunnel 3. OriginalName - Sheep 4. Kenpachi - Has half a brain 5. deconduo - Has a brain 6. Kavdragon - Black 8. bumatlarge - Sheep 10. Coagulation - Tunnel 11. orgolove - Mafia 12. chaoser - Torn between sheep and mafia 13. Meapak_Ziphh - 15. kevconsim - 16. Mr. Wiggles - Has half a brain 17. CubEdIn - Has a brain 18. GGQ - Torn between sheep and mafia 19. ilovejonn - Dunno 20. Amber[LighT] - Lurking 21. BrownBear - Was lurking, dunno. 22. Lemonwalrus - Mafia 23. Rean - Has a brain 24. tnkted - Has a brain 25. Tackster - Has a brain 26. Lanaia - Has a brain 27. iGrok - Black 28. Beneather - Lurker 29. Insanious - Has a brain 30. Eiii - Sheep | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:24 Jackal58 wrote: Ya that was bothering me too. But in XXXVII you guys all voted enmasse for each other as well. So I'm not sure exactly what to read into that anymore. I'm the only person not voting for Tack. The other vote is from Tack himself. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:28 Jackal58 wrote: Bus driver doesn't reverse actions. It drives any visits to coag to the bussed target - me. It doesn't boomerang. Actions on coag get moved to you. Actions on you get moved to coag. Actions on you: Getting shot Actions on coag: Getting mediced. Result: Coag dies, you get medic protection. | ||
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Tack is 66% Mafia Tack is Ver/Foolishnes/Qatol smurf Tack is 100% Mafia again Get Coag to kill himself Give Item Game to Mafia | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:36 Kavdragon wrote: The purpose of that post was partially to defend myself, yes, but the important part of it was that I was questioning why he would post this information now. He claimed that he's vet. This hurts the town because he probably won't take a hit now. He thought that he was revealing a black, which could have hurt the town because it would have likely stopped the scum hunting from the black. I question the timing. You are claiming that you were 100% medic protected? | ||
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On March 30 2011 06:04 chaoser wrote: Answer my question please: Gotta ask LSB. If he confirms Blacks are immune to the potato then its obvious. | ||
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On March 30 2011 21:07 Jackal58 wrote: Decon kiss my ass. If tackster wasn't your room mate you wouldn't give two shits. XXXV: Annul tunneled LSB day one with no case. I was the only one that defended him. Town sheeped cos annul shouted louder, LSB the veteran was lynched. Insane 1: One of the few people who tried to stop town sheeping on Aeres because of LAL. Aeres was obviously not scum but once again no one listened. When idiots like you convince town to be behave like sheep by spamming the thread, I will always try and stop it. Retardedness is a huge problem in these games. Lynching someone because they aren't part of your circle jerk is dumb, plain and simple. You had no case, Tack had done nothing scummy, he defended himself to the last. You and Coag refused to listen to any logic, reasoning, anything. 2 bots would have given us a better chance of winning the IG. Happily mafia need to kill you to win the item game, so at least I can look forward to you being dead tomorrow. | ||
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On March 31 2011 03:44 GGQ wrote: Yeah, it was Insanious in XXXV. I listened to him and voted Brocket. -_- I get no love, from XXXV: On December 29 2010 04:48 GGQ wrote: What really worries me about this lynch is that besides deconduo there hasn't really been anyone trying to divert the lynch, so either LSB is town or his buddies are abandoning him. Btw Brocket was town too, and I was one of only 3 voting for annul. Then mafia killed me that night. | ||
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On March 31 2011 05:32 Coagulation wrote: so umm im shooting jackal tonight right? No. We need NO KP used on IG players. Also if we have a townie roleblocker they NEED to block tnkted. If mafia can mind control the bus driver and you shoot Jackal its over. Again I'm still 95% sure its Lemon who we need to kill tomorrow. Having both you and Jackal alive, as much as it pains me, gives us the best chance of winning. Medic priorities are Cubed, Jackal and Coag. Keep any KP you have away from them if possible. | ||
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On March 29 2011 04:45 Coagulation wrote: I didnt lie. i have never been more fucking annoyed with a game than i am right now. i really dont fucking care wtf happens anymore u fucking twats wanna make shit up and not believe me well go right ahead. keep up the good work fucktard. On March 29 2011 04:59 Coagulation wrote: Im just sick of this shit Between bum telling me to shut the fuck up and calling me a liar This noname reane or w/e fucking calling me a liar and a idiot deconduo and insanious shitting all over me and calling me a liar ROL calling me a liar at every fucking opportunity fuck you guys you deserve to lose. Dumb and dumber is pretty tame and well deserved. However, as frustrating as watching this trainwreck was, I shouldn't have gone to personal attacks. I apologise. | ||
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On April 02 2011 03:06 Kavdragon wrote: No, I'm not saying no one claimed roleblocker, I'm saying that no one claimed that they were roleblocked. I was RB'd. This confirms that there is a RB'er. So who did he RB the first night? GMarshal was RB'd night one. It was inferred from the description in the day post. | ||
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On April 02 2011 05:06 Ace wrote: what the...? I thought LemonWalrus was supposed to die like 40 pages ago? Can't lynch during the night | ||
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On April 03 2011 03:10 bumatlarge wrote: 5. deconduo - Hope he's town Well, hopefully kav will flip black to confirm me. Also I did sorta push darmousseh a small bit day one, albeit not that much. | ||
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On April 03 2011 10:05 CubEdIn wrote: Also, all you town with night actions, try to revise them based on what I just posted. If you think it's needed. If we have any DTs in the town circle, it might be a good idea to either test what blacks claimed, or check on the ones that red is darting for. Bus Driver, switch with someone at random. I don't think it's smart to pick a mafia since blacks are gunning for them, and us cops will also be wrecking some houses tonight, so best to just hide for tonight.  | ||
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On April 04 2011 00:18 Jackal58 wrote: It also raises a bit of a conundrum. Blacks also appear to be blast proof. Do we let Ilovejohn blow up two more that possibly wont die or do we lynch Kav? Lynch kav ofc. Lynching ilovejohn does nothing, as LSB just proved. | ||
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On April 04 2011 00:10 LSB wrote: can hatter bombs kill blacks during the day? No | ||
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On April 04 2011 00:33 tnkted wrote: also this black market is a fucking gold mine. Despite your best efforts? Who do we know who has made a huge deal out of defending tackster this game? Oh hello insanious. Good to know that you're scum. Yeah that confirms him as another black. Rean is probably the last one? | ||
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You do remember the whole thing with me being the one to prove kav was black? Also that would make me a bullet proof veteran. Lol. | ||
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On April 04 2011 04:00 tnkted wrote: deconduo Mr. Wiggles kevconsim is actually green. The other two are scum. I think Kev is probably scum (i didnt put him on the board because i'm getting him and ken confused right now and I didn't want to deal with it) but the question remains: who is scum, Decon or Wiggles? Just to follow up on this, I would consider myself pretty much 90% clear at this point. Considering that I: -Have roleclaimed and am uncontested -Fingered a black -My role doesn't make sense if I was black -Defended Tack and pushed Lemon to the last | ||
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On April 04 2011 07:19 Eiii wrote: this is pretty easy if you're black it's called insane mafia for a reason! Just to link my role again in case you missed it... Original Message From kitaman27: You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie | ||
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Jackal58 Coagulation CubEdIn ilovejonn Eiii Lanaia tnkted Beneather (Bot) Pandain Mr. Wiggles OriginalName orgolove kevconsim Amber[LighT] Insanious Kavdragon This is pretty much what we have right now? Any disagreement? | ||
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On April 04 2011 08:01 tnkted wrote: Cube, we'd get 2 mafia if we lynch john. Orgolove and Kav. We 'get' kav anyway. So its swapping ilj for orgolove, but I feel its worth it. | ||
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On April 04 2011 08:08 Coagulation wrote: your not confirmed town in the slightest decon nice try tho Please explain why not. There is no way I could be black or red for the reasons I stated above. | ||
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On April 04 2011 08:10 Coagulation wrote: thats just a bunch of wifom No confirmation of your role sorry but there is no way im buying it. Well considering you've been wrong about everything else so far, this is hardly a surprise. Use your brain. | ||
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On April 04 2011 08:11 Jackal58 wrote: I would include Lanaia in the unknown category. I'm pretty certain she's not black. But that doesn't mean she's not red. Didn't cubed confirm her? | ||
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On April 04 2011 08:15 Jackal58 wrote: If he did I missed it. He had her on his list of blacks given up by the red team. Oh nvm I got mixed up. | ||
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On April 04 2011 20:52 CubEdIn wrote: If I were to guess I'd put deconduo on a fake claim. It's easy to be a vet when you're bulletproof AM I RITE? But that means that: 1. Pandain has to DIE in arena game. 2. Wiggles is scum (but he doesn't show it, I just went over his posts, other than the fact that he's been kinda-ignoring Kav's scumminess) Obviously you also didn't read my role claim.... Regardless, kav still needs to die. That roleclaim is far too convenient. I also feel there would be something in it about being rolechecked, as that would affect his BPness. On top of that, Pandain needs to die. Everyone has forgotten that he replaced RoL and he's just lurked since he stepped in. As insanious is pretty much confirmed, it makes sense for Beneatherbot (if he's town) to vote for Pandain right? | ||
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On April 04 2011 21:36 Jackal58 wrote: I'm going to flat out say Twikles is the black. He's trying to make it easier for us to lynch John. Why? Because we lose two townies and a red. Black wins. More of the same. More pushing on a townie. This day cycle is the first time he's called anybody black. Prior to today all of his FoS posts have been "solid red reads" No black reads. He's a fucking bus driver. That's a scum role. Reds have their mind control or whatever the fuck it is. Blacks have a bus driver. He's black as night. Hiding in plain sight. +1 My thoughts exactly. | ||
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On April 04 2011 21:59 Jackal58 wrote: If Kav is what he says he is he will die tonight. He's about the best analyzer town has left. If he is BPB he is no more. And if I were on either scum team there is no way I let him live. This is exactly why I don't believe his claim. He has been hiding out all game and not giving any real analysis. Why did he run for mayor if he was BP? Why hide if he has no fear of being killed at night? | ||
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On April 05 2011 09:27 Kavdragon wrote: Oh lol. You are so scummy Decon: If blacks have vote manipulation powers, they'd have won already. They won the black market, and we KNOW that there was at least 20mill in there, for them to have bought out the BM. Votes cost .5 mill, which means that they would be able to out vote the entire town for something like 4 days. In addition, if the vote is not close, then the list cannot be analysed. CubEdIn of all people should know this. He was the first to point out that a completely one sided vote leaves no clues as to who wanted what. You see if you were town this is the wrong reaction. Cya. | ||
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On April 05 2011 09:36 Kavdragon wrote: Point conceded. If you are 100% sure that I'm black, than yes. You are correct. However, if you have any doubt that I'm black (there should be, cause I'm not) the safer path is to lynch ilovejohn. I just wish the rest of the town saw this/didn't owe you favors. Oh, and look: You're own plan to check role PM's? If I had this roleclaim set up earlier, why wouldn't I have claimed it? Fuck me. Switching to ON | ||
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On April 05 2011 09:40 CubEdIn wrote: Because you're smart. Town: please don't vote for Kav because you owe me, vote for who you think is black. But please don't vote for jonn lol. I highly doubt he's THAT good. 4 days in advance? I had my doubts before but this is pretty solid. | ||
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Amber[LighT] CubEdln kevconsim orgolove Jackal58 Kavdragon ilovejohn Mr. Wiggles deconduo Coagulation Eiii tnkted Pandain: Insanious Beneather: Bold is confirmed town. Yes I included myself, deal with it. Who is the last town? | ||
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On April 05 2011 10:19 deconduo wrote: Lanaia Amber[LighT] CubEdln kevconsim orgolove Jackal58 Kavdragon ilovejohn Mr. Wiggles deconduo Coagulation Eiii tnkted Pandain: Insanious Beneather: Bold is confirmed town. Yes I included myself, deal with it. Who is the last town? EBWOP: Assuming kav is legit. | ||
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On April 05 2011 20:09 CubEdIn wrote: Ok it's like this. If the assassin could only hit once, then they lost already. In which case, they should simply claim to reduce the number of people we look into tonight. If they don't (and I really doubt they will), then they're still in this, and will probably take Lanaia out at dawn. IF you guys think it's worth the chance, we can let her live. And maybe scum will think otherwise and get rid of her themselves. I honestly don't think we should risk it at this point. Town is at a clear advantage, so we might be able to afford this. Also, if we're not hitting her, vigs should definitely take out a mafia. There's no way they'll let jonn live if they have RB. So I think that hitting orgolove/amber is ok for any of you heroes out there with guns! We don't know what alignment the assassin is either. It could easily be any of the confirmed towns. | ||
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On April 05 2011 21:42 CubEdIn wrote: Coag/Jackal don't have other roles. How do we know this for sure? Other players in the IG had roles. | ||
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2 Red: orgolove amber 1 Red, 1 Black: Wiggles kevincosim 1 Black: tnked kavdragon (fmpov) | ||
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On April 05 2011 22:36 tnkted wrote: again decon, i'm not convinced that you're green! I'm leaning towards you being black over kav, so your opinion doesn't mean much to me | ||
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On April 05 2011 22:50 CubEdIn wrote: He can't be black. One of the Day posts said: "Someone tried to puppet the Bus Driver". Why would blacks puppet their own? Unless he's not the bus driver, but come on. -.- Puppeter was red | ||
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On April 06 2011 02:56 Amber[LighT] wrote: Don't you think I would have done that instead of posting here? I'm implying something else with this post about the role blocker RB is black? That doesn't make sense | ||
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On April 06 2011 02:57 Jackal58 wrote: Coag blew his head off? That makes more sense | ||
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On April 06 2011 03:12 deconduo wrote: Actually if the RB is black then it almost certainly is Kav. Kav claimed that he was RBd night 3, yet there was nothing about it in the day post. However there was a post about the RB in the day 1 and day 3 post. And if this is the case, then tnkted is the last town (I think) | ||
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5. deconduo 6. Kavdragon 10. Coagulation 11. orgolove 15. kevconsim 16. Mr. Wiggles 17. CubEdIn 19. ilovejonn 20. Amber[LighT] 24. tnkted 26. Lanaia 30. Eiii Miscount maybe? I see 13 alive, not 12. | ||
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5. deconduo - town 10. Coagulation - town 26. Lanaia - town 30. Eiii - town 19. ilovejonn - town 17. CubEdIn - blue 11. orgolove - maf 20. Amber[LighT] - maf 15. kevconsim - maf 16. Mr. Wiggles - black One black left: 24. tnkted 6. Kavdragon | ||
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On April 06 2011 04:20 Jackal58 wrote: Gee ya think. That doesn't change the fact that either you or Decon or Eii is black. Or kav | ||
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-Claimed Roleblocked Day 3 -No mention of Roleblocking in the day post -He didn't roleblock and claimed that he was RBd to clear himself after I caught him out. | ||
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On April 06 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote: Anyway, read back over why I said kav is the Black Roleblocker: -Claimed Roleblocked Day 3 -No mention of Roleblocking in the day post -He didn't roleblock and claimed that he was RBd to clear himself after I caught him out. -He came up with a fake roleclaim and dropped in shortly afterwards too. | ||
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On April 06 2011 04:38 CubEdIn wrote: @Deconduo: could be, but we have reasons to doubt his blacky-ness. I wouldn't have let it go last night if I had no shadow of a doubt he was black. Safe to say he's not cleared, but I'd rather lynch Wiggles/kevin first. Anyway, none of that really matters at this point. What matters is: Do we shoot Lanaia? Who do we check and such? The way I see it the only ambiguity is over the last town. Feel free to check me to clear me. As for the assassin, don't forget his ally was town so it makes sense for the assassin to be town. If this is the case that it has to be either coag or jackal. | ||
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On April 06 2011 04:47 CubEdIn wrote: It would not hand blacks the game, because blacks should only have 1kp. Town can use bus driver/protection/night hits to get rid of mafia and keep safe. We only need two good lynches on blacks, and I doubt they'll be able to kill 7 townies in 2 nights. If blacks have a driver and a roleblock and vote buying powers then its definitely cutting it close. | ||
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On April 06 2011 08:37 Coagulation wrote: Guys im currently enrolled on DAY 1 of a mafia game hosted at another forum. This is the first time 30 people at that forum (every player in the game basically) has ever played mafia. I just wanted to say that I now know how much I take you guys for granted. i love each and every one of you here very much. you are all truly diamonds in the rough. please pray for me. <3 | ||
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-There are no veterans in the game -There are no zombies in the game I claimed day 2. Do you really think I would put myself out there so early and so exposed? And that whole thing with Tack, is that really something a black would do? Nice roleclaim wiggles, but you dun goofed, you needed to have me come back as black. GG. | ||
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On April 06 2011 20:33 CubEdIn wrote: @ deconduo: yes, wouldn't you like to know that! I was saying thats what I would need to know 100% beforehand if my roleclaim was fake, which I couldn't. | ||
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On April 07 2011 02:42 Kavdragon wrote: I'm confused about something, Decon: Where does it say that you kill the person who kills you? + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2011 02:57 CubEdIn wrote: But you shouldn't worry much about it, it's most likely a fake claim. *sigh* | ||
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ILJ Cubed Eiii Deconduo Mr.Wiggles Kavdragon Amber Cubed, Lanaia, Amber will die during the night, leaving: ILJ Eiii Deconduo Mr.Wiggles Kavdragon Leaving 3 town, 2 blacks. If you are throwing suspicion on me now, its over. | ||
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On April 07 2011 05:44 CubEdIn wrote: Honestly, I'll vote in favor of decon lying. But I'm not 100% sure yet. Here's why: 1. Role PMs: Kav's looks more authentic. Decon's looks very wishy-washy, but just might be true. Wiggles's is the worst. That's gotta be one super weak power, plus that it has huge holes in it. Like: - i get the role of who i check = who does that?! - even so, his role-checks come back red, he flips black - the role itself would be super weak, and he can't prove anything from what he posted. 2. Defenses: you'll have to admit they're all weak, but deconduo's seems reasonably fair - he claimed early, nobody counter-claimed. He couldn't have had known there were no other vets BUT, he could have simply claimed that there are more than one if cc-ed, so no biggie there. Plus, he claimed he kills whoever visits him, and that's not in the PM. Kav's is quite strong. What managed to push me off his case was the fact he said "LSB, I told you this role was broken". That just sounded very pro-town to me. Plus, the fact that he was one of the first to reply to my "post words 5/10/15/20" of your PM tells me that if this was a plan, it's a fking brilliant one. So yeah, if I had to pick between the two, I'd pick deconduo to be the scum. But there's still time, no worries. My PM: You are THE veteran. Not a veteran, THE veteran. | ||
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On April 07 2011 05:49 CubEdIn wrote: This is uncool. I just realized that we're missing a KP. 1. I got shot (there's mentioning of an explosion in the distance, so that must've been it) - assume RPG 2. Coagulation - RPG 3. Jackal - RPG 4. Tnked - normal hit 5. Kevinconsim - Coag's hit. So we're missing a normal hit. Either the reds hit someone the blacks also did, or the blacks saved an RPG? I don't know. But I don't like it. "Someone was about to go outside to kill someone but he was wrapped in duct tape" So one of the black hits was RBd, Tnkted must have been the mafia kill. | ||
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On April 07 2011 05:55 CubEdIn wrote: Oh, well it doesn't matter then. I was just worried that there would be 3 night hits instead of 2. If there's still two, we got this. Deconduo, don't worry, if you're not black, you're not gonna die. Not tonight, mafia/blacks would be mad to kill me. I'm worried about townies lynching me at lylo. | ||
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On April 07 2011 06:04 Kavdragon wrote: In case anyone is interested, this game has had unparalleled "activity". The only game larger than this was Mafia II, which was 349 pages. But it had 132 people, and it took 4.5 months. Come to think of it, I'm pretty OK with this game being second in size. That's a freaking LONG game. First 80 pages was me trying to get people to not lynch Tack | ||
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On April 07 2011 05:44 CubEdIn wrote: Honestly, I'll vote in favor of decon lying. But I'm not 100% sure yet. Here's why: 1. Role PMs: Kav's looks more authentic. Decon's looks very wishy-washy, but just might be true. Wiggles's is the worst. That's gotta be one super weak power, plus that it has huge holes in it. Like: - i get the role of who i check = who does that?! - even so, his role-checks come back red, he flips black - the role itself would be super weak, and he can't prove anything from what he posted. Look at these role PMs: You are the Bodyguard. You have the thankless job of being a meatshield for the king. However, the king promises to reward you if you manage to kill the assassin. I wonder what he will teach you... You are the Police Tough Guy. Once per night you can request the alignment of one person Hi you are the Village Idiot! You hate REDACTED, you hate him very much. In order to win you have to lynch REDACTED. Remember, lynch, not kill. You are the Ninja Apparant! You can activate it so that on one night all KP directed twoards the ninja will instead go back to the person who issued the KP How is mine more wishy washy than them? | ||
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On April 07 2011 06:31 CubEdIn wrote: Not more wishy washy than theirs, but more wishy washy than the other two guys. Look, there is very, very little 100% fool-proof information in this game. So, assuming all three of you are lying (Kav/Wiggles/Decon), then we can say for sure that Kav is the best liar of the three. His story holds water, especially since he had the PM pre-checked 3 days before claiming it. Again, I didn't say you're 100% black. If I had to choose right NOW I would choose Kav as town over you two. But there are 2 more nights and one more day before we get to that point (unless unexpected stuff happens, which is very likely). So it doesn't matter much. I already explained why Kav would have come up with a fake PM on day 2. Also he's the best player in the game so of course he came up with a good PM. | ||
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On April 07 2011 08:27 Kavdragon wrote: As flattering as you are, I'm not that good. There are a lot of things that make your claim so hard to believe. Take your claim for instance: You claimed vet day 2. The purpose of vets is to draw hits to themselves, and claiming vet more or less defeats the purpose of the entire role! Anyone who was actually a vet would have spent the time to look over my posts to check and see if I actually claimed vet. You've played long enough to understand this, and yet you made a mistake, cause I didn't claim vet. It just doesn't make sense. I wasn't being really spammy, so it wouldn't have taken very long to look through my posts to see where I claimed vet, yet you didn't. It just doesn't make sense from a vet's perspective. However, if you look at it from a black's perspective, it makes a ton of sense: You pretend to be a vet that made a mistake, and in an accident, you tell people that you're a vet. This would make anyone with KP shy away from hitting you. It wasn't a bad plan for a black, I mean, you haven't been hit yet, have you? And even if you were/are hit, you've got your explanation all set up for you. I claimed to get you lynched, not to draw hits. It wasn't a mistake. If I was hit I would be dead. Read my claim. | ||
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On April 07 2011 08:51 Amber[LighT] wrote: As an FYI Kav should have been RBed last night. GG | ||
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On April 07 2011 11:25 CubEdIn wrote: Also, the fact that Amber said he should've been RBed makes me think they're fking with us. Mostly because he said he should've been role blocked when I was. Do not fall for this. Think for yourselves. Amber is not fucking with us, he has given town the win. He meant kav was RB'd night two, you know, the night when kav claimed he was RBd.... But hey, lets throw away all that. Lets throw away my play the entire game. Lets throw away the fact that the timing of my roleclaim makes perfect sense for a green and no sense for a black. Lets throw away the fact that kav hasn't fossed any blacks all game. Oh wait, except when he needed to save his own ass from a lynch. All because kav is good at faking a single role PM. Notice the way that Wiggle's fake claim is so similar to Kavs. I wouldn't be surprised if it was kav that came up with both of them. | ||
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-Decon proves kav is lying about being vet. Kav can't claim medic saved because that is easily verifiable. Hence kav must claim bulletproof. Kav composes fake role PM, and uses Cubed's plan thingy to breadcrumb it. He can then sit back happy until he is at risk of being lynched, and expose it. OR -Kav puts the words from his real role PM in Cubed's claim. The are simple words, you, your etc. Three days later he composes a fake role PM around the, | ||
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On April 01 2011 18:51 Kavdragon wrote: Your the you that. used your redacted. 5,10,15,20, 25,30,35 respectively. Original Message From kitaman27: You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it. + Show Spoiler +
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On April 07 2011 20:26 CubEdIn wrote: Seriously dec? That's one word off, when I actually only asked for the first 4, he got the last two one off and you're saying that because of that he's scum? It can easily be a counting error. It's pretty clear that the PM is either real or has been invented preemptively. That error can work in either of the two cases. Look, I'm not 100% sure about either of you, but right now _it doesn't matter_. We have one shot at winning this, and if her kp doesn't go through then we're screwed anyway, so let's not get too "off the plan" because we don't know what can happen. We can argue about you two after the town hangs wiggles. If it gets to that point. Also, you don't seem to be addressing the fact that your PM said nothing about killing the one that tries to hit you. That's a bigger hole than anything in Kav's case (including his vest LOLOLOLOL!) Why did he redact was? Look at the typo as well: Original Message From kitaman27: You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it. | ||
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On April 07 2011 20:26 CubEdIn wrote: Seriously dec? That's one word off, when I actually only asked for the first 4, he got the last two one off and you're saying that because of that he's scum? It can easily be a counting error. It's pretty clear that the PM is either real or has been invented preemptively. That error can work in either of the two cases. Look, I'm not 100% sure about either of you, but right now _it doesn't matter_. We have one shot at winning this, and if her kp doesn't go through then we're screwed anyway, so let's not get too "off the plan" because we don't know what can happen. We can argue about you two after the town hangs wiggles. If it gets to that point. Also, you don't seem to be addressing the fact that your PM said nothing about killing the one that tries to hit you. That's a bigger hole than anything in Kav's case (including his vest LOLOLOLOL!) zzzz | ||
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On April 07 2011 20:44 CubEdIn wrote: *pat pat* Don't worry little guy. I did tell you that you won't die by town's hand unless you're black. Have a bit of faith in the brave townsmen, no? Fine, but I really do expect to have yet another 'I told you so' moment at the end of the game. | ||
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On April 07 2011 20:56 CubEdIn wrote: *sigh* Yee of little faith. You believe kav is town over me, ofc I don't have a whole lot of faith in you. | ||
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On April 07 2011 20:58 CubEdIn wrote: You make a good point, though. If you die tonight, and town hangs wiggles tomorrow, it will be... 3 townies left: 1 confirmed (lanaia or eiii), ilovejonn and kavdragon. At which point the sure way to win is for ilovejonn to place both bombs on kavdragon and lynch ilovejonn. That will make the confirmed townie an instant I would just lynch kav outright. Just in case he had some role fuxxery to avoid the bombs. | ||
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On April 07 2011 22:20 CubEdIn wrote: I meant town*. I mean I know Eiii and Lanaia are confirmed, but ilovejonn is only confirmed by his actions. His actions plus this: Hi I'm Kenpachi an I'm your friendly neighborhood hatter and unlike what other people say about me I'm quiet sane and I’m very methodical I can’t speak for my brother but all I know is that my targets were well thought out and well placed and I am so confident so I will prove it to you by blowing myself up. | ||
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On April 08 2011 01:32 Kavdragon wrote: How many times do I have to tell you? I never claimed ANYTHING about why I survived. Only that I was hit. If you were a real vet you would have checked this to be sure. Even if we take into account that you kill your killer instead of surviving the shot, your "role" is still one that is designed to take a hit: You die, your killer dies. A green for a scum is a good trade any day. No matter how you look at it, any role who's power activates on death is NOT a role designed to make it to the end of the game. You were meant to be hit, you claimed at a time that didn't make sense for a green, but makes tons of sense for black. You might as well start fossing Eiii/ILJ at this point. I'm pretty confident amber will kill me, he's already shown that he wants town to win by saying you were the one RBd. | ||
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On April 08 2011 01:45 Lanaia wrote: As much as I think he's scum, he makes a very good point here. If he was medic saved, a medic could easily claim to verify him. | ||
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Cos he has no other choice. If all goes well it will be him, ILJ, Eiii alive at the end. | ||
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On April 08 2011 03:26 ilovejonn wrote: would i really tell everyone to lynch me if i was red/black? I mean the bandwagon on me that day was only switched because of Cubed's plan, I didn't even tell people to switch off of me, if I'm not sure town to you then I don't know what is lol. Yep, I'm 99% sure you are town which is why my plan will work. The only problem is that it relies on red wanting town to win over black, which hopefully they do. | ||
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On April 08 2011 03:32 ilovejonn wrote: No one is really listening to you anymore Wiggles, it's too late. You hold no persuasive power at all. @decon: what plan? I get shot by amber, confirms kav as the last black. Leaves no ambiguity as to who to lynch on the last day. | ||
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On April 08 2011 03:41 ilovejonn wrote: oh...well that entirely depends on Amber lol. Considering that amber didn't lie about RBing kav I have some hope | ||
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On April 08 2011 04:49 CubEdIn wrote: Heh, I didn't say I think you're scum, I'm just being overly cautious at this point. I know you wanted to get hanged which makes you pretty much confirmed, but I'm just surprised that mafia didn't RB you when you had two bombs on them. That's a pretty huge risk to take. Either way, let's face it, Amber is not gonna help town. They probably Role-Blocked Wiggles last night and now they're laughing it up, knowing that they're both dead as a doornail. And you're both doing a great job at looking town, with serious reasons to doubt any of you. Kev is playing it cool while decon is playing the frustrated townie card. I'm actually quite curios as to which of you will flip black in the end. Especially knowing that it will probably all rely on one guy voting wrong and then that guy (OR GIRL) never hearing the end of it. "Can't believe you lost us Insane Mafia 2 dude...". *giggles* Well the only reason you have to think kav is town is because he's good at making up PMs, while either LSB or kita was lazy with writing mine. I would have come up with a much better role for myself. | ||
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On April 08 2011 04:56 CubEdIn wrote: Mno, it's more than that, really. If he's scum then he's awfully good at lying. And thats so hard to believe? | ||
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On April 08 2011 05:14 CubEdIn wrote: Well, no, but if you put it that way, why would I believe you over him? You both make fairly decent points. If I was convinced about any of you I'd just tell town: Lynch Wiggles and then Deconduo, and you win the game. Do not pass go do not collect 200, just do those things and you WIN. But instead, I didn't, I said: judge for yourselves. Perhaps that's why I find this decision to be somewhat trivial, because I won't be the one who has to make it. Regardless, you still have a lot of influence so making an informed suggestion is important. Hopefully it won't come down to me vs kav because I don't think I can win that. | ||
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On April 08 2011 05:37 CubEdIn wrote: Well in all honesty, I still think you're the scum. Something like 60-40 in your favor. You can claim that he's a good liar, but if he's better at lying then you are at telling the truth, then it's your cross to bear. Just wait for daylight and convince whoever's left that you're town. ...if you're still alive. How is my cross to bear? How can you be better at telling the truth? The truth is the truth. If you are fooled by kav's lies then its 100% your fault, no one else's. Don't try and push this loss onto me, it will be entirely your fault and the person that hammers me. | ||
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On April 08 2011 05:54 CubEdIn wrote: I fail to see how it's gonna be my fault when I won't be alive to vote for anyone. Each player has a mind of their own. I don't have any hidden evidence which makes me pick between you two, so my guess is as good as any. It will be whoever-is-left's decision. ^_^ Your job as townie is to make them believe you're townie! Again, them, not me. You think you saying 'I'm pretty sure dec is scum, and I would lynch him if I was alive' has no effect on the game? | ||
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On April 08 2011 21:40 CubEdIn wrote: @ dec: you really needed to chill out, I was bulletproof DT, there was no way blacks would win without additional KPs. And you would never get hanged by town. It was mostly an act, but I was a bit worried that your plan wouldn't work ( and it didn't -_-) | ||
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On April 11 2011 04:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: The decision is favorable to the bus driver because he is pseudo invincible. How don't you understand this? He can bus himself with the mayor or any other player and the mafia CANNOT KILL HIM. That is unless we manage to target the person he is switching himself with, which just turns it into a guessing game anyway. *facepalm* The whole point is that the bus wouldn't work either. They would cancel each other. | ||
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On April 18 2011 07:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: In case anyone wasn't aware. It's on. Where you at | ||
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